I'd love to also see the return of the Indy point and click games. Those use to be very popular. There hasn't been a great Indy game since those days IMO. LucasArt's may already be planning this. From my understanding Indy and the fate of Alantis is on the recent WII Indy game.
Indy would be perfect as an episodic series. And the 3d engine would suit it very well IMO, as it would be a more serious and realistic looking game, so no need to try to make a cartoony looking game in 3d here (which I think is harder), and the 3d and camera movement could make it really cinematic.
Or something totally random and new like Telltale likes to seem to do - surprise us randomly.
Something random and new?
Pepsiman!! It's so obvious! The story, characters, and humor is perfect for a point and click adventure game!! I can't believe people haven't pointed this out yet!
Or better yet...
The Numa-Numa Guy!! It's so obvious! The story, characters, and humor is perfect for a point and click adventure game!! I can't believe people haven't pointed this out yet!
Actually...
<insert random piece of pop culture here>!! It's so obvious! The story, characters, and humor is perfect for a point and click adventure game!! I can't believe people haven't pointed this out yet!
Pepsiman!! It's so obvious! The story, characters, and humor is perfect for a point and click adventure game!! I can't believe people haven't pointed this out yet!
Or better yet...
The Numa-Numa Guy!! It's so obvious! The story, characters, and humor is perfect for a point and click adventure game!! I can't believe people haven't pointed this out yet!
Actually...
<insert random piece of pop culture here>!! It's so obvious! The story, characters, and humor is perfect for a point and click adventure game!! I can't believe people haven't pointed this out yet!
I disagree, I don't think <insert random piece of pop culture here> would really work as a point and click adventure because <insert pedantic reason here>
One thing I wouldn't like is another season of Strong Bad. I played a demo of it and I simply don't get it. The humour, the characters... It's all nonsense for me. And I don't mean it in a good sense like Aqua Teen Hunger Force. It's just not funny. I simply can't enjoy it even if I tried.
Have even seen the www.homestarrunner.com cartoons You'll be able to get a lot of the humour if you do, I mean come on they're hilarious.
If it were to happen, there would probably be a Maniac Mansion comeback rather than DOTT. A DOTT story would seem too limited to a tentacle theme whereas MM would be perfect for episodic games and have all those whacky and evil characters.
If it were to happen, there would probably be a Maniac Mansion comeback rather than DOTT. A DOTT story would seem too limited to a tentacle theme whereas MM would be perfect for episodic games and have all those whacky and evil characters.
Why does people says that they want a follow up to DOTT? DOTT is Maniac Mansion 2, so in anycase there should be a new Maniac Mansion, like Maniac Mansion 3, not DOTT 2. I would like some stuff from DOTT, as I would like to chose different characters like in MM. It would bring some replayability to the episodes.
But, please. Stop refering to whatever come from the series like a follow up to DOTT. It is the Maniac Mansion franchise.
This is a horrible idea. And I love Maniac Mansion.
I can guaruntee you this: There is NOTHING in the works with a LucasArts brand right now. ToMI is Lucas testing the water. If it's successful, there may be more. If it's too successful, they may kick Telltale off the job and do it themselves. But I'm sure they're not just lining up their franchises for them just yet.
It'll probably be another non-gaming license. If they do go for another adventure game thing, I'd throw a longshot guess toward Tex Murphy or maybe Space Quest.
This is a horrible idea. And I love Maniac Mansion.
I can guaruntee you this: There is NOTHING in the works with a LucasArts brand right now. ToMI is Lucas testing the water. If it's successful, there may be more. If it's too successful, they may kick Telltale off the job and do it themselves. But I'm sure they're not just lining up their franchises for them just yet.
What about another Steve Purcell series based on his characters Suda and Ernie. (Comics about them are on Spudvision; slightly different creepier style of humor from Sam and Max, but a lot the same too.)
Shoot, I dunno. Everything Steve does is great.
EDIT: I can see it now; From the creator of Sam and Max...
I like Sam and Max, but I think one can go overkill. I don't want to see a situation like Family Guy, Cleveland and American Dad if you get what I mean.
Indy would be perfect as an episodic series. And the 3d engine would suit it very well IMO, as it would be a more serious and realistic looking game, so no need to try to make a cartoony looking game in 3d here (which I think is harder), and the 3d and camera movement could make it really cinematic.
I concur with the possibility of an Indiana Jones game. I remember not too long ago someone pointing out to me that it was a LucasArts brand game and therefore wouldn't be done, but now that Monkey Island is here (a LucasArts brand game!) I'm extremely hopeful that such a title will be created by Telltale and LucasArts. Good point on there being potential for a very cinematic game, too!
it would be great if they move aside "comedy" adventures and keep their eyes on a more dramatic ones... like "Blade Runner" or "I Am Legend"... these kind of things.
If they specifically look to tv series they can try "LOST"... ore even "Twin Peaks" (this i love very much! :P)
OK, I'm just wandering...
it would be great if they move aside "comedy" adventures and keep their eyes on a more dramatic ones... like "Blade Runner" or "I Am Legend"... these kind of things.
If they specifically look to tv series they can try "LOST"... ore even "Twin Peaks" (this i love very much! :P)
OK, I'm just wandering...
I would also like to see them branch off into more serious story driven games in the same vein as the Dig. there are hundreds of IP's out there that would make great adventure games or they could come up with a original IP.
I know its a huge gamble. Maybe instead of making a whole series from the start they could make 3 or 4 different 'pilot' episodes and use the fanbase's feedback to decide which is worth pursuing.
When I think about it there's a ton of serious adventure games out there I don't really care about but not a lot of funny ones that are on their way. Making comedic ones that stand out like MI or Sam and Max compared to the rest of the crowd is probably a big advantage.
They should probably resurrect something unexpected like Freddy Pharkas. I think an episodic series about a gunslinging frontier pharmacist in the Wild West has tons of possibilities.
Plus it's different from the other stuff they currently have - it's cowboys! And it's got funny supporting characters. It set in the 19th Century!
And "one of the best adventure games of all time" apparently according to a review. Most importantly it's comedic and full of humour, which is a Telltale core attribute.
When I think about it there's a ton of serious adventure games out there I don't really care about but not a lot of funny ones that are on their way. Making comedic ones that stand out like MI or Sam and Max compared to the rest of the crowd is probably a big advantage.
The difference is that other serious adventures are not made by Telltale. I would love to see a serious (maybe science fiction) adventure from these talented guys from Telltale. Right now I believe there isn't anything they can't make.
I would like to see them make something along the lines of Choose your own Adventure book series. Something in which you can visit amazing places and live (obviously) big adventures. And now they added interaction between items, it would be nice to include something in the way of more non-linearity. Maybe different endings which can lead to a different beginning in a new episode. Different solutions too puzzles would be cool too.
Adventure games have been stuck for so many years, that I would love that the guys that resurrected them bring some new enhancements and innovations to the genre.
I know Fate of Atlantis had a similar graphic style to MI2 but I can't imagine a cartoony Indy these days.
It can't be any worse then that last movie. Actually the cartoony look doesn't bother me. It was the story and the witty responses and fun puzzles that made the game great. With the advances in technology they could make a realistic looking indy game if they wanted. I imagine with the proper talent involved it would be a blast IMO.
The difference is that other serious adventures are not made by Telltale. I would love to see a serious (maybe science fiction) adventure from these talented guys from Telltale. Right now I believe there isn't anything they can't make.
I can see them making about anything, yeah. Our disagreement is just personal preference - serious or comedic. My favorite actually is a game that takes itself seriously but is also funny.
the part with the aliens. That was just stupid. It didn't RUIN it for me but it hurt my overall appreciation for the series. I did love surviving a nuclear explosion in a fridge though, that was great if unrealistic.
My favorite actually is a game that takes itself seriously but is also funny.
Funny. I don't mind if a game tries or not to be funny, but it's usually the ones that DONT take themselves seriouslywhich tend to be the bests (actually, i think NOT taking oneself seriously is probably one of the first step to real greatness in just about any artistic field).
Full throttle being a good exemple of this, IMO : nothing quite funny as such, but a few random silly jokes still thrown in just for giggles and self-mockery.
Funny. I don't mind if a game tries or not to be funny, but it's usually the ones that DONT take themselves seriouslywhich tend to be the bests (actually, i think NOT taking oneself seriously is probably one of the first step to real greatness in just about any artistic field).
Full throttle being a good exemple of this, IMO : nothing quite funny as such, but a few random silly jokes still thrown in just for giggles and self-mockery.
I was thinking of Monkey Island 2 really in the sense that a real story exists but it's spliced with a great deal of humor. The story isn't really there just to serve a tool for humor.
the part with the aliens. That was just stupid. It didn't RUIN it for me but it hurt my overall appreciation for the series. I did love surviving a nuclear explosion in a fridge though, that was great if unrealistic.
For some reason, the
fridge scene
annoyed me in the movie, but at the same time, if it had happened in an Indy adventure game I wouldn't have cared and possibly would have been amused by it.
The
alien plotline TOTALLY ruined the movie for me. The way they handled the legend of the crystal skulls was incredibly disappointing, given the real legends that exist about the skulls. The aliens just felt like George Lucas was bored and said "Wouldn't aliens be cool?"
And I swear if Shia had touched his hat at the end, I may have burned every copy of the film in my theatre.
I was thinking of Monkey Island 2 really in the sense that a real story exists but it's spliced with a great deal of humor. The story isn't really there just to serve a tool for humor.
Don't really think it's better or worse myself (although i did love MI2 and completely agrees on your description of it), but now i get what you meant.
I might be wrong, but to me "takin itself seriously" isn't the same as just "being serious", and the former usually ends up pedantic, boring and/or just plainly unbearable :eek:
I thought the fridge was kinda funny but overall, well... there were a lot of nice little things here and there (the whole indy's son thing was WAAAY better done than i feared it would be) but well... where was the damn plot ???
(and no, the alien crap at the end wasn't one of the few nice things)
Yes, I agree that MI2 is a pretty creepy and serious game with a coat of humour on top of it. That's what makes MI games great, not the self parody of EFMI. I think that TOMI is in a good path though.
When I think of Indy episodic adventures I remind myself of Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. Does anyone remember those?
day of the tentacle would be so damn nice!
i want to go back into the future, maybe play there as a new person in the time while purple tentacle as going to reach the power of ruler of the world...or jumping around as grren tentacle xD
annoyed me in the movie, but at the same time, if it had happened in an Indy adventure game I wouldn't have cared and possibly would have been amused by it.
The
alien plotline TOTALLY ruined the movie for me. The way they handled the legend of the crystal skulls was incredibly disappointing, given the real legends that exist about the skulls. The aliens just felt like George Lucas was bored and said "Wouldn't aliens be cool?"
And I swear if Shia had touched his hat at the end, I may have burned every copy of the film in my theatre.
I loved Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
It makes total sense for
aliens
to be in there becase rather than the first three films set in the 1930s, Indy 4 is set in the 1950s where
aliens and space travel
are the key topics of the era, just like how the antagonists changed from Nazis to cold war Russians. The setting evolved over time.
I believe it was no less believeable than magical shankara stones, thousand year old crusaders drinking from the holy grail and a supernatural ark of the covenant melting people's faces...
To me, it was totally Indy and I can't wait for Indiana Jones 5, which I've already heard is in development...
i realllly wish theyd make a new ip. id LOVE to see what they can make on their own, instead of just buying licenses well-established franchises...not that i have any problems with the ones theyve been doing. that said. if they go the avenue of just buying rights for an established franchise, doctor who is DEFINITELY number 1 on my list...i just hope they dont screw it up.
I believe it was no less believeable than magical shankara stones, thousand year old crusaders drinking from the holy grail and a supernatural ark of the covenant melting people's faces...
It's in stark contrast to those things. It's no less supernatural but of a different type. It felt wrong.
It's in stark contrast to those things. It's no less supernatural but of a different type. It felt wrong.
I'm still looking forward to Indy 5 though.
It felt right to me. At least considering the 1950s sci-fi era setting. Plus it has already been associated with ancient mayan/incan/aztec/egyptian civilizations that there may be an alien connection in film and TV - as in Stargate (both the film and series, but especially in the series where they have that episode with the crystal skull + aliens); Alien vs Predator (how the predators came to Earth and got the humans to build their alien temples), etc.
And ancient civilization mystery + archaeologist with a hat & whip + international bad guys = Indiana Jones for me. I guess it's subjective. I've seen lots of films and TV where they associate crystal skulls or ancient lost cities with aliens.
But actually they weren't exactly aliens but "inter-dimensional beings" and that's even more 1950s when you think of comics of aliens from the 5th dimension.
Well to me, aliens just don't ring the same bell as ancient/biblical myths...
Sure, you can mix em up... Sure, you can play on what was popular in the fifties, and sure indiana jones was originally based on popular "pulp" stuff of the time period it was set in...
The thing is, i wouldn't have minded at all if they had said "okay, let's do some indy-like stuff, but let's set it in the fifties and add aliens". But the thing is, they just pushed the alien thing in an already established set. It just doesn't feel coherent, and therefore feels forced in unbelievable. I guess the aliens are not the problem in themselve, it just wasn't subtle enough maybe...
But oh well, i don't remember the movie well enough to argue anyway.
It just felt "wrong" to me, as the pariah said.
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Indy would be perfect as an episodic series. And the 3d engine would suit it very well IMO, as it would be a more serious and realistic looking game, so no need to try to make a cartoony looking game in 3d here (which I think is harder), and the 3d and camera movement could make it really cinematic.
Something random and new?
Pepsiman!! It's so obvious! The story, characters, and humor is perfect for a point and click adventure game!! I can't believe people haven't pointed this out yet!
Or better yet...
The Numa-Numa Guy!! It's so obvious! The story, characters, and humor is perfect for a point and click adventure game!! I can't believe people haven't pointed this out yet!
Actually...
<insert random piece of pop culture here>!! It's so obvious! The story, characters, and humor is perfect for a point and click adventure game!! I can't believe people haven't pointed this out yet!
I disagree, I don't think <insert random piece of pop culture here> would really work as a point and click adventure because <insert pedantic reason here>
Word.
Have even seen the www.homestarrunner.com cartoons You'll be able to get a lot of the humour if you do, I mean come on they're hilarious.
Noooo, I hate Homestarruner. Its humour is really strange and ilogical to me. I hope Telltale looks for other IPs.
Why does people says that they want a follow up to DOTT? DOTT is Maniac Mansion 2, so in anycase there should be a new Maniac Mansion, like Maniac Mansion 3, not DOTT 2. I would like some stuff from DOTT, as I would like to chose different characters like in MM. It would bring some replayability to the episodes.
But, please. Stop refering to whatever come from the series like a follow up to DOTT. It is the Maniac Mansion franchise.
I can guaruntee you this: There is NOTHING in the works with a LucasArts brand right now. ToMI is Lucas testing the water. If it's successful, there may be more. If it's too successful, they may kick Telltale off the job and do it themselves. But I'm sure they're not just lining up their franchises for them just yet.
It'll probably be another non-gaming license. If they do go for another adventure game thing, I'd throw a longshot guess toward Tex Murphy or maybe Space Quest.
I think it's a GREAT idea.
In fact, i think maniac mansion would fit the episodic schedule way better than monkey island, or even sam & max.
I agree. And Indiana Jones would also be good for episodic adventures.
How exactly can you "guaruntee" this?
Guarana tea?
What about another Steve Purcell series based on his characters Suda and Ernie. (Comics about them are on Spudvision; slightly different creepier style of humor from Sam and Max, but a lot the same too.)
Shoot, I dunno. Everything Steve does is great.
EDIT: I can see it now; From the creator of Sam and Max...
I concur with the possibility of an Indiana Jones game. I remember not too long ago someone pointing out to me that it was a LucasArts brand game and therefore wouldn't be done, but now that Monkey Island is here (a LucasArts brand game!) I'm extremely hopeful that such a title will be created by Telltale and LucasArts. Good point on there being potential for a very cinematic game, too!
I know Fate of Atlantis had a similar graphic style to MI2 but I can't imagine a cartoony Indy these days.
If they specifically look to tv series they can try "LOST"... ore even "Twin Peaks" (this i love very much! :P)
OK, I'm just wandering...
I know its a huge gamble. Maybe instead of making a whole series from the start they could make 3 or 4 different 'pilot' episodes and use the fanbase's feedback to decide which is worth pursuing.
Plus it's different from the other stuff they currently have - it's cowboys! And it's got funny supporting characters. It set in the 19th Century!
And "one of the best adventure games of all time" apparently according to a review. Most importantly it's comedic and full of humour, which is a Telltale core attribute.
The difference is that other serious adventures are not made by Telltale. I would love to see a serious (maybe science fiction) adventure from these talented guys from Telltale. Right now I believe there isn't anything they can't make.
I would like to see them make something along the lines of Choose your own Adventure book series. Something in which you can visit amazing places and live (obviously) big adventures. And now they added interaction between items, it would be nice to include something in the way of more non-linearity. Maybe different endings which can lead to a different beginning in a new episode. Different solutions too puzzles would be cool too.
Adventure games have been stuck for so many years, that I would love that the guys that resurrected them bring some new enhancements and innovations to the genre.
It can't be any worse then that last movie. Actually the cartoony look doesn't bother me. It was the story and the witty responses and fun puzzles that made the game great. With the advances in technology they could make a realistic looking indy game if they wanted. I imagine with the proper talent involved it would be a blast IMO.
Funny. I don't mind if a game tries or not to be funny, but it's usually the ones that DONT take themselves seriouslywhich tend to be the bests (actually, i think NOT taking oneself seriously is probably one of the first step to real greatness in just about any artistic field).
Full throttle being a good exemple of this, IMO : nothing quite funny as such, but a few random silly jokes still thrown in just for giggles and self-mockery.
I suppose I'm communicating poorly.
For some reason, the
The
And I swear if Shia had touched his hat at the end, I may have burned every copy of the film in my theatre.
I might be wrong, but to me "takin itself seriously" isn't the same as just "being serious", and the former usually ends up pedantic, boring and/or just plainly unbearable :eek:
(and no, the alien crap at the end wasn't one of the few nice things)
When I think of Indy episodic adventures I remind myself of Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. Does anyone remember those?
i want to go back into the future, maybe play there as a new person in the time while purple tentacle as going to reach the power of ruler of the world...or jumping around as grren tentacle xD
anyway, DotT !!
I loved Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
It makes total sense for
I believe it was no less believeable than magical shankara stones, thousand year old crusaders drinking from the holy grail and a supernatural ark of the covenant melting people's faces...
To me, it was totally Indy and I can't wait for Indiana Jones 5, which I've already heard is in development...
I'm still looking forward to Indy 5 though.
It felt right to me. At least considering the 1950s sci-fi era setting. Plus it has already been associated with ancient mayan/incan/aztec/egyptian civilizations that there may be an alien connection in film and TV - as in Stargate (both the film and series, but especially in the series where they have that episode with the crystal skull + aliens); Alien vs Predator (how the predators came to Earth and got the humans to build their alien temples), etc.
And ancient civilization mystery + archaeologist with a hat & whip + international bad guys = Indiana Jones for me. I guess it's subjective. I've seen lots of films and TV where they associate crystal skulls or ancient lost cities with aliens.
But actually they weren't exactly aliens but "inter-dimensional beings" and that's even more 1950s when you think of comics of aliens from the 5th dimension.
Sure, you can mix em up... Sure, you can play on what was popular in the fifties, and sure indiana jones was originally based on popular "pulp" stuff of the time period it was set in...
The thing is, i wouldn't have minded at all if they had said "okay, let's do some indy-like stuff, but let's set it in the fifties and add aliens". But the thing is, they just pushed the alien thing in an already established set. It just doesn't feel coherent, and therefore feels forced in unbelievable. I guess the aliens are not the problem in themselve, it just wasn't subtle enough maybe...
But oh well, i don't remember the movie well enough to argue anyway.
It just felt "wrong" to me, as the pariah said.