Leisure Suit Larry + Telltale Games = A lovestory?

edited October 2011 in General Chat
Damn!

I am now officially really tired of Sierra/Vivendi outsourcing the Leisure Suit Larry license to all kinds of crappy developers who obviously have no idea how to make a proper adventure game, let alone how to make a worthy entry in one of the best Adventure Game series ever!
Last in the line of failures was Team 17, which made Box Office Bust, a game that has received so horrible reviews I haven't even bothered to play it.
Seriously. Some executives should send a delegation from Telltale to Sierra/Vivendi now, hire Al Lowe as a freelance designer and restore the Leisure Suit Larry series to it's former glory!

Go Telltale!
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  • edited January 2010
    Yeah, I'd love for that to happen. Leisure Suit Larry is among my favourite characters and adventures of all times, especially 3 and 7. I'm sad to say I've never completed 6 because of some damn bug I ran into when I finally decided to play it, and I couldn't fix it. I'm hoping I'll be able to sometime, 'cause it's the only one I've never completed.

    Seriously though, the soundtrack for LSL3 (Passionate Patti and the Pulsating Pectorals, I think it's called) is among my favourite soundtracks for an adventure game, and I'd say it's almost on par with the Monkey Island 2 and 3 - although in a very different style. The moody jazz is just so damn beutiful, and I almost get misty-eyed every time I boot up LSL3 and hear the fantastic theme playing right in the beginning of the game.

    Also, an idea for the game would be have a season where every chapter has one objective that needs to be done to win a certain date/cruise/vacation/whatever - in the final chapter you win the prize. And there is the basis for the follow-up season. Kinda like LSL7.

    Or heck, maybe even Al Lowe can finally make his planned LSL8 - Lust In Space.
  • edited January 2010
    I can't still believe how Team 17 could ruin a game.

    Oh, well, it's essential for them to mess up when they decided to go make 3D games I suppose.
  • edited January 2010
    I had no idea Vivendi had anything to do with videogames. I thought they only did TV-things. When did that happen?
    Are they partnered with Sierra now?
  • edited January 2010
    Meh, in my opinion, Telltale should focus on better IPs. I dunno, LSL, and most old sierra games, aren't as funny as old LucasArts games. And not just because of the crude humor too.

    I mean, I do enjoy Leisure Suit Larry, they were pretty funny most of the time, but they kinda feel like those parody movies, you know 'Scary Movie' and stuff, with constant breaking the fourth wall and direct pop-culture reference jokes that goes on too long.
  • edited January 2010
    Where's this idea that just because it's an adventure game, it has to be funny? What about Gabriel Knight?
    Of course, humour is a large part of the Leisure Suit Larry games, but they were also known for being notoriously hard, filled with eastereggs, and also always had a sad undertone in that Larry Laffer was always a bit of a looser.
    I'll admit; Ron Gilbert is probably a better storyteller than Al Lowe, but that doesn't mean Al Lowe can't design games, or even write good dialogue!

    avistew: Everyone and their uncle has their own videogame company these days - what'd you expect?
  • edited January 2010
    Afr0 wrote: »
    Where's this idea that just because it's an adventure game, it has to be funny?

    Okay, I'll admit. The only old Sierra game I've played are Leisure Suit Larry 1, 5, 6, 7, and Space Quest 6. Those are meant to be funny, and they were, but the jokes were hit and miss. Old LucasArts games are also hit and miss, but there were more 'hits' than 'misses'.

    I have played several serious adventure games, such as The Longest Journey sequel, The first two Broken Sword games, Beneath A Steel Sky, and The Dig, and they were quite great. So, yeah, adventure games don't have to be humorous. But when it comes to stories where your main goal is to get laid, you'd expect it to be humorous. Now, again, I'm not saying that Sierra games aren't not unenjoyable, I just think that LucasArts games are simply more fun, and have more creative premises.

    Also, the animation in LucasArts games are better.

    Basically, I prefer LucasArts more, and when it comes to IPs for Telltale to use, they have better choices. But if Telltale actually did make an LSL game, I'd buy it. Telltale can make anything work.
  • edited February 2010
    I'm gonna say the same thing I often have about other very creator-centric franchises - get the creator back. If Telltale gets Leisure Suit Larry, they need to get Al Lowe, too.
  • edited February 2010
    Brainiac wrote: »
    I'm gonna say the same thing I often have about other very creator-centric franchises - get the creator back. If Telltale gets Leisure Suit Larry, they need to get Al Lowe, too.

    I think Al is retired though.
  • edited February 2010
    Yes and no. He's not really working in the games industry anymore as far as I know but he's consistently said he'd love to contribute to a new LSL game. He even got stringed along by those in charge of the Lovage games at least once. Check out his website for more accurate info.
  • edited February 2010
    tredlow wrote: »
    Now, again, I'm not saying that Sierra games aren't not unenjoyable, I just think that LucasArts games are simply more fun, and have more creative premises.

    Basically, I prefer LucasArts more, and when it comes to IPs for Telltale to use, they have better choices. But if Telltale actually did make an LSL game, I'd buy it. Telltale can make anything work.

    I don't know. I LOVE the King's Quest series, and don't give LucasArts too much props. They did drop Sam & Max: Freelance Police before finishing it.

    ...but yes, Telltale can make anything work. Of that, I am certain.
  • edited February 2010
    Leisure Suit Larry was never that good in my opinion... and it doesn't seem like a Telltale kind of game to me.
  • edited February 2010
    Fealiks wrote: »
    Leisure Suit Larry was never that good in my opinion... and it doesn't seem like a Telltale kind of game to me.

    Honestly it's not in a lot of ways. I'm going to throw my two cents in and say this.

    Leisure suit larry is an adult game, and as much as I love telltale. I don't know if they could pull it off, and I only say this because of the past attempts at making leisure suit larry. Magna Cum Laude and Box office bust, are the worst games in the series, if telltale could pull of leisure suit larry I welcome them too.
  • edited February 2010
    I dont know why I could picture Telltale doing Larry, I mean I like the idea of telltale games doing it. But...I'll only pay my money for it if its going to be made for Wii, and most importantly...if al's in charge of the game.
  • jmmjmm
    edited February 2010
    IF a LSL game is made, by Telltale or else, Al should be at least a consultant (a writer/designer would be preferred)
  • edited February 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    and don't give LucasArts too much props. They did drop Sam & Max: Freelance Police before finishing it.

    I was talking about their old adventure games, not their business decisions, which are made by totally different people.
  • edited February 2010
    IF a LSL game is made, by Telltale or else, Al should be at least a consultant (a writer/designer would be preferred)

    I agree. Or at least someone as talented as Al should be in charge. Someone who really is passionate about the series and understands the universe. Clearly, the people involved in Box Office Bust and Magna Cum Laude didn't.
  • edited February 2010
    Afr0 wrote: »
    I agree. Or at least someone as talented as Al should be in charge. Someone who really is passionate about the series and understands the universe. Clearly, the people involved in Box Office Bust and Magna Cum Laude didn't.

    "Uh... It's got dirty humor and boobs, right? Also, there's a guy named Larry" is probably how the production teams of the new games see the old games.
  • edited February 2010
    Let me go on record and say that if TellTale did make a new Leisure Suit Larry, it would be the first game of theirs that I never even tried. Just saying.
  • edited February 2010
    Let me go on record and say that if TellTale did make a new Leisure Suit Larry, it would be the first game of theirs that I never even tried. Just saying.

    There's irony above somewhere... :D
  • edited February 2010
    I would love Telltale to make a new Leisure Suit Larry! I feel that they have the power to restore Larry to it's former glory! I know it's hard to imagine right now, but there was a time when Leisure Suit Larry's name was up there with Guybrush Threepwood's.
    They would indeed have to get Al Lowe involved. He's the main man for the series, plus I'd like to see him work again, he just feels so rejected now...
    And get Jan Rabson back!
  • edited February 2010
    And get Jan Rabson back!

    Damn yeah!
  • edited February 2010
    By the way, does anyone know where Al Lowe is right now? I mean, where he works?
  • edited February 2010
    tredlow wrote: »
    By the way, does anyone know where Al Lowe is right now? I mean, where he works?
    Well, according to Wikipedia he's 63 by now and "supposedly enjoyed retirement since 1998."
  • edited February 2010
    You didn't read the full article I see.

    "In a 2006 interview, Al revealed that he was not actually retired, but had spent well over a year secretly designing a new game Sam Suede: Undercover Exposure, an action comedy game developed by iBase Entertainment, which he co-founded with Ken Wegrzyn. Unable to locate a publisher to promote and distribute Sam Suede, iBase Entertainment shut down in December 2006. Following this setback, Lowe expressed serious doubts whether he'd ever reenter the gaming industry again."
  • edited February 2010
    Actually I'd love to see Telltale's Larry- a real adventure game again.
    Must say Magna Cum Laude wasn't that bad at all (kind of fun), but Box Office Bust was terrible beyond words.
  • edited February 2010
    Joop wrote: »
    You didn't read the full article I see.

    "In a 2006 interview, Al revealed that he was not actually retired, but had spent well over a year secretly designing a new game Sam Suede: Undercover Exposure, an action comedy game developed by iBase Entertainment, which he co-founded with Ken Wegrzyn. Unable to locate a publisher to promote and distribute Sam Suede, iBase Entertainment shut down in December 2006. Following this setback, Lowe expressed serious doubts whether he'd ever reenter the gaming industry again."

    So I ask again; where in the world is Al Lowe?
  • jmmjmm
    edited February 2010
    tredlow wrote: »
    So I ask again; where in the world is Al Lowe?

    Probably it's just me (being weird and all of that), but I imagined a "Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?" game starring Al Lowe.
  • edited February 2010
    jmm wrote: »
    Probably it's just me (being weird and all of that), but I imagined a "Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?" game starring Al Lowe.

    Maybe Telltale should get that license, and make the game, if enough people actually FIND Al Lowe, a Larry game will get made! :D
    Joop wrote:
    And get Jan Rabson back!
    And Neil Ross!
    (They had some great chemistry together.)
  • edited February 2010
    I liked Larry 4 best ...

    :D

    Seriously, the original "lounge lizards" was one of the very first adventure games I ever played. I remember it as the game where you spend all day at the casino. Then I learned to save each time I won, so when I lost everything I'd just do a reload.

    Played the remake not that long ago. I don't know, it wasn't the same. And Eve looked completely different!

    I only recently finished "looking for love", with a walkthrough at hand.

    I did the same for LSL3 years ago, never got interested in playing it again.

    Never played "undercover work".

    But "shape up or slip out" I've played extensively! Everything about it was right up my alley. It's like things made more sense in this game. It's actually this game that made me look up the older games, which in turn kinda disappointed me.

    Somehow I've always missed out on "love for sail". Perhaps some day. But Larry Lovage will never come on my desktop!

    LSL in episodic game format? Sure, could work. And since it's another old comedic/cartoonish adventure game series, Telltale seems like the right company to handle it. But I'd rather they put their time and energy in something ... well, "better" is the wrong word. Perhaps "mature"? They've already proven themselves on the level they're at, but I don't want them stuck here, I want them to rise up and blow us away with some next-gen type of adventure game!
  • edited February 2010
    I agree that especially the older ones sometimes really seem kinda... I don't know... off...
    But the games really got better starting with Larry 6, and Larry 7 (actually the first one I played, when I was 10 years old) is a real riot.
    I'm replaying it now, and it still holds up really well, it's obvious that they really reached the top of their game there.
    You should try Love for Sail, it's really great!

    EDIT: Another little update on where Al Lowe is. Looking at his IMDB page I've discovered that he supplied his voice for his own appearance in Zak McKracken Between Time and Space.
    Pretty good stuff for a fan project... They got David Fox too!
  • edited February 2010
    I don't think Telltale Games & LSL is a fit. Telltale is on a hot streak of making games I don't mind the kiddies sitting down and playing.
  • edited February 2010
    Sierra was too. LSL was their first "adult" title, and I still played it perfectly fine when I was 10 years old.
  • edited February 2010
    Tsk, LSL 1, 2 and 3 and 5 actually had a story, while 6 and 7 were more about getting laid. They're all good in their own ways. But for me, LSL3 will always be the king of the series, and one of my favourite adventure games of all time.
  • edited February 2010
    Couldn't Telltale make a Leisure Suit Larry game without adult content? I think one of the things that killed the newer games for a lot of people was that it was ONLY about adult content. A game with actual story was reduced to the level of a porno.

    Outside of the shower section, Leisure Suit Larry 3 didn't really have any actual nudity. Everything else was obscured, implied, silouetted, or covered up. You could go much much further with censorship and still keep with the spirit of the series, which is just about a middle aged loser trying to find love. I'm not a Larry fan, mind you, but I'm looking at it from a neutral point of view.
  • edited February 2010
    I remember watching a review of Box Office Bust with game footage. It was truely horrible.
  • edited February 2010
    We're not talking about MCL or BOB, they were horrible.
    In my opinion they shouldn't even be considered Canon.
    But Telltale could make something like Love for Sail.
    I'm sure Al Lowe has some great ideas left!
  • edited February 2010
    Tarand wrote: »
    I don't think Telltale Games & LSL is a fit. Telltale is on a hot streak of making games I don't mind the kiddies sitting down and playing.
    What, like CSI: Hard Evidence? ;)
  • edited February 2010
    Couldn't Telltale make a Leisure Suit Larry game without adult content? I think one of the things that killed the newer games for a lot of people was that it was ONLY about adult content. A game with actual story was reduced to the level of a porno.

    According to Wikipedia [on Leisure Suit Larry 7];

    'After many of the Larry games had gained a reputation for not actually featuring all that much raunchy content when analysed, this installment included some much more risque elements.'
  • edited February 2010
    I thought the LSL series was great - or at least the ones I've played (1-3 on Amiga lol) I played Magna Cum Laude on Xbox and lost all hope... I didn't even know they made another one after that - the game needs not be a sandbox game (unless maybe rockstar got ahold of it...) I'd like to see someone do the series some justice (along with the Space Quest series)
  • edited February 2010
    Afr0 wrote: »
    According to Wikipedia [on Leisure Suit Larry 7];

    'After many of the Larry games had gained a reputation for not actually featuring all that much raunchy content when analysed, this installment included some much more risque elements.'

    Which is exactly my point?
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