First things first, I've not read every single word on this thread, but tried to get the general gist.
I have to say to me it doesn't matter if a game is classed as overrated or not, all that matters is if I like it or not. I don't need validation of my opinion of video games. With that said I love Fallout 3, and I love 1 & 2 as well. So what if someone thinks a game is overrated, life is all about opinions and the world would truly suck if we all liked and thought the same things.
Actually, I'm not sure what point I'm making other than differing opinions are good as is healthy debate.
I liked Fallout 3 quite a lot, and also liked the first two. I think fallout 3 has a mediocre story compared to the first two and boring party members that don't really talk or do anything. The gameplay changes were good in my opinion and the game was fun, but I leveled up and maxed WAY too fast. I thought they perfectly captured the atmosphere of the first two games, and did it even better.
Personally, I never really liked Maniac Mansion I thought the game was frustrating, and it was too easy to get stuck and I just could never really get into it....
Nah everyone's right, that's a crap argument Secret Fawful, that's like syaing because John Peel wasn't in a band he'd no right to be a music critic. It's just some internet guys opinion anyway, what do you care?
Yeeeeeeeeah uh. I'm not really sure why you played Persona 3 if you don't like turn-based RPGs.
Not all, just most. Especially ones that involve heavy grinding just to beat one boss and has glacial pacing on the battle animations. I like Pokémon, for one! And I heard Persona 4 was different than 3 gameplay-wise, I was just told to play 3 for the story even if 4 doesn't pick up on it. (except there's a few references to it like treasurer girl's return)
Not all, just most. Especially ones that involve heavy grinding just to beat one boss and has glacial pacing on the battle animations. I like Pokémon, for one! And I heard Persona 4 was different than 3 gameplay-wise, I was just told to play 3 for the story even if 4 doesn't pick up on it. (except there's a few references to it like treasurer girl's return)
Well, I hate to tell you this, but Persona 4 isn't all that much different from Persona 3, gameplay-wise. It's an improvement, to be sure: for one, you can control all the party members, there are more incentives to improve your social links with your party members (get Chie's link up to a certain point, and she'll be able to sometimes one-hit kill non-boss enemies by punting them into space), and I remember there being changes to the Press-Turn system, although I can't recall what the changes were. In any case, though, you WILL need to grind for the bosses in Persona 4, a lot more so than in 3 (altough the final boss of 4 isn't nearly as frustrating as in 3), so I'm still not sure if you'd enjoy Persona 4 all that much.
Just out of curiosity, what other turned-based RPGs do you like? Pokemon is one of those, yeah, but its gameplay is still significantly different than many other RPGs.
The only thing I complained about Persona 3 is that the places where you are grinding are very uninteresting. Maze, maze, maze, chest, shadow, shadow, etc. repeat for literally over a hundred blocks with no grand scene changes. I didn't say I'm not enjoying the game, but it IS overrated. I've played Nocturne and despite how much I hate the stupid *step, step, step BATTLE* thing it was somehow more entertaining to explore. I've heard how Persona 4 has weird things like a gay bath-house and I totally gotta try that. Also Persona 3's music is interesting for a bit (I caved in and got the soundtrack) but it gets very annoying quickly. I'm already at the point where I mute it and put on a playlist when I'm in Tartarus. The music when you're shopping around the mall is THE WORST. Just to nitpick, I wish they would have let you play as a girl or something from the get-go (yes I know they'll let you in the portable game but still) because all the dateable girls besides Yuko drive me insane. (see avatar)
I don't know what other ones I like, but I've played a lot. Sure Pokémon is different but so is Persona, right?
I'm gonna go with Halo. I haven't played the multiplayer (not a big online gamer), but the single-player campaign is lackluster. It starts off alright, but quickly descends into a series of very smiliar corridors that take forever to get through. It really hits a nadir with The Flood, when you have to run through these corridors with what are essentially insects swarming all over the place. And then there's the Library... literally the same corridor copy-pasted to last two extremely boring hours.
I gave up shortly after that. It just got so... dull. To recover, I went back to FEAR, a decent tactical shooter. And I never thought I''d be saying that, but...
You poor, unfortunate soul. If I had cooties, I don't know where I'd get the emotional strength to even get up in the morning. My life would be, well, a nightmare realm of constant regret and misery. Would it even be worth living? Would I rather succumb to the darker thoughts that the disease thrusts upon the human psyche with all of the trauma and pain that it inflicts?
Now you know my pain, this what I get for buying the cheap hookers instead of the classier 20$ ones. All I got from the rest of what you said was "thrusts" and then I broke down crying again. I'm sorry.
1. Bioshock.
2. Metal Gear Solid 4.
3. Final Fantasy (not sure which I played).
4. ...Half-Life 2. The episodes were much better.
5. Anything with the words "David Cage" spit on.
6. Anything with the words "Roberta Williams" spit on.
Not at all. I love Looney Tunes. Sam and Max: Hit the Road and the Telltale seasons are pretty high up there. I like cartoons just fine.
Don't tell me you also think Maniac Mansion was somehow realistic...
Not exactly. The original Maniac Mansion had an entirely different atmosphere about it. It is heavily inspired by B movie horror. The atmosphere chosen for Day of the Tentacle just didn't fit. The original Maniac Mansion wasn't the kind of cartoon that the second game became.
I throw in Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2. I started Dragon Age and watch my friend playing Mass Effect 2. Bioware somehow managed removing the parts i liked in roleplaying games and adding stuff i didn't like this much.
I really liked Ultima 9 and quite some of the other parts before.
The Force Unleashed. C'mon, is not THAT good. It's entertaining, but after the first three levels I got bored because it was so incredible repetitive: Kill everyone, first boss, kill everyone again, second boss, kill everything you see and final boss.
I'd say it was underrated. I've only ever heard people saying how bad a game it is.. I thought it was pretty fun.
Not exactly. The original Maniac Mansion had an entirely different atmosphere about it. It is heavily inspired by B movie horror. The atmosphere chosen for Day of the Tentacle just didn't fit. The original Maniac Mansion wasn't the kind of cartoon that the second game became.
I like that they changed gears. If I made a third Maniac Mansion game, I'd try to avoid both Chuck Jones and B movie horror. Maybe do an 80s style science-fiction take instead. Something tacky, but likeable. There's not many things you can do with a mad scientist and tentacles besies b-horror, Chuck Jones and cartoons and 80s movies...
Maybe I'd focus on the kids instead of the doctors or the tentacles this time.
I throw in Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2. I started Dragon Age and watch my friend playing Mass Effect 2. Bioware somehow managed removing the parts i liked in roleplaying games and adding stuff i didn't like this much.
I really liked Ultima 9 and quite some of the other parts before.
I completely agree with everything you just said, and I thought I was the only one!!
Gonna have to go with Super Smash Bros. Melee. I have to say that I would rather play the N64 version then that one. Maybe its that I played Brawl first. I can't stand it. I don't even understand the point of the adventure mode.
The Force Unleashed. C'mon, is not THAT good. It's entertaining, but after the first three levels I got bored because it was so incredible repetitive: Kill everyone, first boss, kill everyone again, second boss, kill everything you see and final boss.
Way to repetitive. And I don't think that it would take five to ten swings with a lightsaber to kill and enemy. Its a freakin' lightsaber! One slice, he's down.
I enjoyed Force Unleashed. That's probably because I rented it, though, and finished it during the rental period. The Ultimate Sith Edition is on sale on Steam now for $15, and honestly? That's a pretty good price for it.
I was really shocked to find that no one else said Heavy Rain yet (except Kroms who summed everything I'm about to say up in one sentence). So I will pointlessly whine like a fool.
The game has abysmal pacing, the interactivity is sparse, your actions have almost no impact on the story (besides which ending you get), and the game has been done before. Heavy Rain is a slower, prettier, and bigger version of Fahrenheit. And I did like Indigo Prophesy when I played through it, I even played it a few times to try and have events unfold in a different way. Can't really be done.
From what I've seen, read, and played of Heavy Rain it is almost exactly the same. It gives you a sense of control over the mystery but the ending is always the same (same killer).
A game might get better after two or three hours, but that's a lot to grant for a game to get good, particularly if it won't let you skip those hours in a second playthrough. That means the game is designed to be played exactly once.
So it is not a new experience and barely qualifies as interactive. I like the simplicity of a Point and Click game and I don't even mind it being linear, but when a game gets called a new genre or something definitive for this generation I start to raise my hackles.
This thread keeps delivering opinions alright; terrible ones, in MY opinion.
QTE in Shenmue; yeah, it's the game that basically created them. so if you say Shenmue is overrated, you must have played it like 1 week ago.
It's all about the experience, and if you missed it all those years ago on the Dreamcast... it's your fault, sorry.
My answers are Modern Warfare 2, God of War 3, Mass Effect 1, MadWorld.
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Lets just change the subject.... how about we talk about cheese? Everybody love cheese. EVERYBODY
I have to say to me it doesn't matter if a game is classed as overrated or not, all that matters is if I like it or not. I don't need validation of my opinion of video games. With that said I love Fallout 3, and I love 1 & 2 as well. So what if someone thinks a game is overrated, life is all about opinions and the world would truly suck if we all liked and thought the same things.
Actually, I'm not sure what point I'm making other than differing opinions are good as is healthy debate.
Personally, I never really liked Maniac Mansion
Just a few euro's less now...
...oh and it's about vidya games as well
Err... Not really. Unless posts were deleted since I've last been here, and I don't think that's the case.
Oh, wait, VIDEO games?
Uh... Halo.
I have nothing to say except Giant Tope I hate you forever for beating me to the cool frog comic. Oh and...
Not all, just most. Especially ones that involve heavy grinding just to beat one boss and has glacial pacing on the battle animations. I like Pokémon, for one! And I heard Persona 4 was different than 3 gameplay-wise, I was just told to play 3 for the story even if 4 doesn't pick up on it. (except there's a few references to it like treasurer girl's return)
Well, I hate to tell you this, but Persona 4 isn't all that much different from Persona 3, gameplay-wise. It's an improvement, to be sure: for one, you can control all the party members, there are more incentives to improve your social links with your party members (get Chie's link up to a certain point, and she'll be able to sometimes one-hit kill non-boss enemies by punting them into space), and I remember there being changes to the Press-Turn system, although I can't recall what the changes were. In any case, though, you WILL need to grind for the bosses in Persona 4, a lot more so than in 3 (altough the final boss of 4 isn't nearly as frustrating as in 3), so I'm still not sure if you'd enjoy Persona 4 all that much.
Just out of curiosity, what other turned-based RPGs do you like? Pokemon is one of those, yeah, but its gameplay is still significantly different than many other RPGs.
I don't know what other ones I like, but I've played a lot. Sure Pokémon is different but so is Persona, right?
Dance Dance revolution
Guitar-rock-hero-band (and all their clones)
anything with way too many quick time events...
I gave up shortly after that. It just got so... dull. To recover, I went back to FEAR, a decent tactical shooter. And I never thought I''d be saying that, but...
*tee-hee snicker giggle
I like you.
2. Metal Gear Solid 4.
3. Final Fantasy (not sure which I played).
4. ...Half-Life 2. The episodes were much better.
5. Anything with the words "David Cage" spit on.
6. Anything with the words "Roberta Williams" spit on.
You really hate non-subtle cartoons, eh. Don't tell me you also think Maniac Mansion was somehow realistic...
Not exactly. The original Maniac Mansion had an entirely different atmosphere about it. It is heavily inspired by B movie horror. The atmosphere chosen for Day of the Tentacle just didn't fit. The original Maniac Mansion wasn't the kind of cartoon that the second game became.
I apologize to all the retardeds,
I fully support you and your awesomeness.
I really liked Ultima 9 and quite some of the other parts before.
I'd say it was underrated. I've only ever heard people saying how bad a game it is.. I thought it was pretty fun.
I like that they changed gears. If I made a third Maniac Mansion game, I'd try to avoid both Chuck Jones and B movie horror. Maybe do an 80s style science-fiction take instead. Something tacky, but likeable. There's not many things you can do with a mad scientist and tentacles besies b-horror, Chuck Jones and cartoons and 80s movies...
Maybe I'd focus on the kids instead of the doctors or the tentacles this time.
Huh.
*Begins thinking about a MM3 in his head*
I completely agree with everything you just said, and I thought I was the only one!!
Way to repetitive. And I don't think that it would take five to ten swings with a lightsaber to kill and enemy. Its a freakin' lightsaber! One slice, he's down.
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The game has abysmal pacing, the interactivity is sparse, your actions have almost no impact on the story (besides which ending you get), and the game has been done before. Heavy Rain is a slower, prettier, and bigger version of Fahrenheit. And I did like Indigo Prophesy when I played through it, I even played it a few times to try and have events unfold in a different way. Can't really be done.
From what I've seen, read, and played of Heavy Rain it is almost exactly the same. It gives you a sense of control over the mystery but the ending is always the same (same killer).
A game might get better after two or three hours, but that's a lot to grant for a game to get good, particularly if it won't let you skip those hours in a second playthrough. That means the game is designed to be played exactly once.
So it is not a new experience and barely qualifies as interactive. I like the simplicity of a Point and Click game and I don't even mind it being linear, but when a game gets called a new genre or something definitive for this generation I start to raise my hackles.
Eh?
Maybe Duke Nukem Forever
Modern Warfare 2.
Are we counting Halos in Space here?
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2977058/1/Halo_Halos_in_Space
Well I guess that wasn't much of a game, more an interactive experience.
QTE in Shenmue; yeah, it's the game that basically created them. so if you say Shenmue is overrated, you must have played it like 1 week ago.
It's all about the experience, and if you missed it all those years ago on the Dreamcast... it's your fault, sorry.
My answers are Modern Warfare 2, God of War 3, Mass Effect 1, MadWorld.