I think the crumbling ratings and the shows cancellation would make it a pretty unappealing prospect. Back in its heyday of Seasons 1 & 2 though it would have been a great idea, definitely.
Oh, and the Back to the Future trilogy will be "remastered", although that doesn't tell us much these days. They claim that about almost everything now.
Usually all that means is that they went back to the original transfer of the film (the "master" copy) and transferred it directly into the new digital format, usually cleaning it up as they go. As opposed to just doing an upconversion of a previous digital transfer, which could be lossy or dated.
What I'm wondering about is why these two franchises? They're quite old. The first JP was from 1993, the third from 2001. And it's way too early for the game to coincide with the new planned trilogy, since they're still working on the script. BttF dates from 1985-1990, which is even older. It's like at a time when people were starting to forget about them, here come these games. I can understand the interest for JP with those new movie plans, but nothing like that is in the works for BttF as far as I know.
Both franchises carry the Spielberg name. Both have previous attempts at games, but I don't think they were succesful. Perhaps now we finally have the technology to make realistic and impressive games that truly capture the movie experience? Or is it only because they think they are the easiest to translate to a game?
And there are franchises which are way more popular than these. To me it more sounds like a compromise between what could we get, what do we like and where do we see some potential in terms of a fanbase. I strongly doubt that these franchises are their first choices as well.
If they also want to show a non humorous side, which i welcome, i wonder what they want with BTTF. It appears so half baked, some franchises but clearly not the ones you really want.
Age has nothing to do with it. The series are still incredibly popular and famous, and they have millions of fans around the world.
Yes, and I'm one of them, but at the same time I'm reading comments from a bunch of gamers who weren't even born yet at the time of the movies, that they've never even seen one of them. So I guess they just want to introduce these movies to a new audience, by garnering new interest through these games.
A Heroes game would be killer. I loved the whole series (still only halfway through the last season, though). A game would rock.
In theory, I'm totally with you, the concept sounds awesome. In practice, I'm on the fence. If anyone could pull it off, I'm sure it's Telltale, but it's one of those things that could go either way.
On the other hand, if a Heroes game were to be made, the adventure format probably wouldn't make the most of the series. An action-adventure game would be better for taking advantage of all the super powers, but then on the other hand, a game in that genre would be less likely to be of a decent quality.
So I guess I really don't know. But what I can say is that this is the first reason I've found to hope that Jurassic Park is successful, other than Telltale's continued existence. if NBC Universal likes what Telltale does with its properties and the returns they make, they'll be more likely to license other franchises to Telltale, some of which I might care about more than Jurassic Park.
Both have previous attempts at games, but I don't think they were succesful.
I own the Genesis game from the first movie and the Scan Command game for the PC. The Genesis game was...meh... Especially the portions where you play as a raptor. And the only part of the Scan Command game I remember is the barcode scanner gimmick. So yeah, my experience with Jurassic Park games has been overwhelmingly negative.
Oh, I absolutely agree. I definitely think that's one of their goals. That was a stated goal for Sam and Max and Monkey Island as well, to introduce these worlds and characters to new generations. Which they DID DO, because I actually know a lot of people in real life now who know who Sam and Max and Monkey Island are, some of whom learned about them from Telltale's games. I don't know anyone who hasn't heard of BTTF or JP though; maybe it's because I grew up on them and everyone else I know did too.
Yes, and I'm one of them, but at the same time I'm reading comments from a bunch of gamers who weren't even born yet at the time of the movies, that they've never even seen one of them.
The younger demographic might be more vocal on the forums, but the majority of gamers aren't kids.
Wikipedia never lies and is totally accurate always in everything:
The November 2005 Nielsen Active Gamer Study, taking a survey of 2,000 regular gamers, found that the U.S. games market is diversifying. The age group among male players has expanded significantly up into the 25 - 40 age group. [...] In 2008, the average American gamer has been playing for 12 years, and is now, on average, 35 years of age.
@puzzlebox
But those who are older also play less games compared to their youth, beside of any time issues (working, family, ...) one big part of the reason is that a lot of games are still targeting a much younger audience like teenagers for instance and you just can't enjoy a lot of this stuff anymore as you have been there for several times already and your prospects alter as well.
Yes, and I'm one of them, but at the same time I'm reading comments from a bunch of gamers who weren't even born yet at the time of the movies, that they've never even seen one of them.
Well their parents aren't raising them right. My 9, 7 & 5 year olds love BttF, though they're too young for Jurassic Park.
Anyway where are you seeing this 'bunch of gamers'?
@puzzlebox
But those who are older also play less games compared to their youth, beside of any time issues (working, family, ...) one big part of the reason is that a lo of games are still targeting a much younger audience like teenagers for instance and you just can't take enjoy a lot of this stuff anymore as you have been there for several times and your prospects alter as well.
That's why Episodic Games work really well for people like that (ie. me) - less time commitment to get through a game.
I don't know about you guys but with The Devil's Playhouse, the games started feeling a lot less like episodic games. They're so long and challenging now; I remember when I used to think Season ONE was challenging. The Tomb of Sammun-Mak was like playing several episodic games all by itself. I have a feeling BTTF and JP will be so challenging they won't feel episodic at all. This is not a complaint.
@jp-30
This is only true on the surface because a) you primary want to play very good games which are worth your reduced gaming time and can compete with other activities and b) ultimately as an adult you don't need someone, hopefully, managing your time.
Well their parents aren't raising them right. My 9, 7 & 5 year olds love BttF, though they're too young for Jurassic Park.
That's funny, because of Back to the Future, I once called my dad an asshole and promptly learned for the first time that it wasn't a nice word to use. Can't remember how young I was, but it certainly left an impact. I'm 22 and I still can't even bring myself to use the word crap in front of my parents.
If I remember correctly, in the classic Spanish version (before the 20th Anniversary Special Edition and re-dubbing), he says instead "moco de elefante" (elephant snot)
We had censorship before the "official" 20th Anniversary censorship
Anyway where are you seeing this 'bunch of gamers'?
Not together in one place, if that's what you're wondering about. Some in one forum, some in another, several comments on all kinds of articles about this subject all over the web ...
Pretty much the same kind of people who said, "Indiana Jones? Who's he?" back in 2008.
a lot of games are still targeting a much younger audience like teenagers for instance and you just can't enjoy a lot of this stuff anymore as you have been there for several times already and your prospects alter as well.
Well their parents aren't raising them right. My 9, 7 & 5 year olds love BttF, though they're too young for Jurassic Park.
See this is the thing... even with toys/games/movies that target children, they are often made with the aim of appealing to parents too. If fathers today are anything like my dad, they get their kids games/toys that they want to play with themselves.
The cynic in me says that marketers realise the value of nostalgia when it comes to selling toys to parents. I think that's why we've seen a sudden resurgence of classic 80s franchises like Transformers, My Little Pony and TMNT in the past few years (and then there are things like the Astroboy movie).
The children of the 80s are now of childbearing age, and the toys/franchises they remember being awesome are an easy sell because there's an emotional attachment there - they want to share that with their own kids. Like jp-30, if I had any kids I'd be making letting them watch BTTF.
Teenagers are a different story because they want to (and usually do) make their own purchasing decisions. But I definitely don't think that picking up older franchises is a dumb move.
This would be getting too much as you can't consume all the old and the new stuff. Therefore you have to draw a line and say, okay this was really important to me, it might interest my children as well. Watching the first movie with them, no problem, but playing a game costs a lot more time and the franchise just isn't so important to me.
Of course you'll be doing things together with your kids which sometimes are more on their and sometimes more on your radar as well. An adventure to a really good SF book or something like Sin City or Akira would have been great in my opinion but i'm repeating myself.
But as you brought it up, the last movie we watched together was Tokikake, which was good.
Well their parents aren't raising them right. My 9, 7 & 5 year olds love BttF, though they're too young for Jurassic Park.
That's not too young for Jurassic Park. I watched that movie when I was five or six and loved it. Then again, I was a bloodthirsty little twerp, so maybe not.
I was 11 or 12 when it showed on TV and wasn't allowed to watch it because I was just under the age the TV suggested.
Everyone else in my class had seen it the next day (I was a year early) and I felt very left out.
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Not that I'd want to see one, I'm just surprised it hasn't been said yet.
http://mixnmojo.com/news/Man-destroys-God-Telltale-creates-dinosaurs
Oh, have you played Puzzle Agent?
I'm just sying that they completly made new locations specifically for the game.
Usually all that means is that they went back to the original transfer of the film (the "master" copy) and transferred it directly into the new digital format, usually cleaning it up as they go. As opposed to just doing an upconversion of a previous digital transfer, which could be lossy or dated.
they own Law and Order!? I wanma play law and order game by TTG Iv allways wanted to be jack macoy procuting someone
Both franchises carry the Spielberg name. Both have previous attempts at games, but I don't think they were succesful. Perhaps now we finally have the technology to make realistic and impressive games that truly capture the movie experience? Or is it only because they think they are the easiest to translate to a game?
If they also want to show a non humorous side, which i welcome, i wonder what they want with BTTF. It appears so half baked, some franchises but clearly not the ones you really want.
Yes, and I'm one of them, but at the same time I'm reading comments from a bunch of gamers who weren't even born yet at the time of the movies, that they've never even seen one of them. So I guess they just want to introduce these movies to a new audience, by garnering new interest through these games.
In theory, I'm totally with you, the concept sounds awesome. In practice, I'm on the fence. If anyone could pull it off, I'm sure it's Telltale, but it's one of those things that could go either way.
On the other hand, if a Heroes game were to be made, the adventure format probably wouldn't make the most of the series. An action-adventure game would be better for taking advantage of all the super powers, but then on the other hand, a game in that genre would be less likely to be of a decent quality.
So I guess I really don't know. But what I can say is that this is the first reason I've found to hope that Jurassic Park is successful, other than Telltale's continued existence. if NBC Universal likes what Telltale does with its properties and the returns they make, they'll be more likely to license other franchises to Telltale, some of which I might care about more than Jurassic Park.
I own the Genesis game from the first movie and the Scan Command game for the PC. The Genesis game was...meh... Especially the portions where you play as a raptor. And the only part of the Scan Command game I remember is the barcode scanner gimmick. So yeah, my experience with Jurassic Park games has been overwhelmingly negative.
The younger demographic might be more vocal on the forums, but the majority of gamers aren't kids.
Wikipedia never lies and is totally accurate always in everything:
But those who are older also play less games compared to their youth, beside of any time issues (working, family, ...) one big part of the reason is that a lot of games are still targeting a much younger audience like teenagers for instance and you just can't enjoy a lot of this stuff anymore as you have been there for several times already and your prospects alter as well.
I 100% disagree.
Well their parents aren't raising them right. My 9, 7 & 5 year olds love BttF, though they're too young for Jurassic Park.
Anyway where are you seeing this 'bunch of gamers'?
That's why Episodic Games work really well for people like that (ie. me) - less time commitment to get through a game.
This is only true on the surface because a) you primary want to play very good games which are worth your reduced gaming time and can compete with other activities and b) ultimately as an adult you don't need someone, hopefully, managing your time.
That's funny, because of Back to the Future, I once called my dad an asshole and promptly learned for the first time that it wasn't a nice word to use. Can't remember how young I was, but it certainly left an impact. I'm 22 and I still can't even bring myself to use the word crap in front of my parents.
Thanks E.T.
Apparently its cut from the newer DVD release.
We had censorship before the "official" 20th Anniversary censorship
That is the best scene in the whole movie that doesn't make me cry.
Not together in one place, if that's what you're wondering about. Some in one forum, some in another, several comments on all kinds of articles about this subject all over the web ...
Pretty much the same kind of people who said, "Indiana Jones? Who's he?" back in 2008.
fff
I don't know who these people are...BUT I DON'T LIKE THEM.
See this is the thing... even with toys/games/movies that target children, they are often made with the aim of appealing to parents too. If fathers today are anything like my dad, they get their kids games/toys that they want to play with themselves.
The cynic in me says that marketers realise the value of nostalgia when it comes to selling toys to parents. I think that's why we've seen a sudden resurgence of classic 80s franchises like Transformers, My Little Pony and TMNT in the past few years (and then there are things like the Astroboy movie).
The children of the 80s are now of childbearing age, and the toys/franchises they remember being awesome are an easy sell because there's an emotional attachment there - they want to share that with their own kids. Like jp-30, if I had any kids I'd be making letting them watch BTTF.
Teenagers are a different story because they want to (and usually do) make their own purchasing decisions. But I definitely don't think that picking up older franchises is a dumb move.
Of course you'll be doing things together with your kids which sometimes are more on their and sometimes more on your radar as well. An adventure to a really good SF book or something like Sin City or Akira would have been great in my opinion but i'm repeating myself.
But as you brought it up, the last movie we watched together was Tokikake, which was good.
That's not too young for Jurassic Park. I watched that movie when I was five or six and loved it. Then again, I was a bloodthirsty little twerp, so maybe not.
Everyone else in my class had seen it the next day (I was a year early) and I felt very left out.