good old games (gog.com) collapses

edited September 2010 in General Chat
the online old game distributer gog.com has gone down. permanently. They left only this message on the site:

" Dear GOG users,

We have recently had to give serious thought to whether we could really keep GOG.com the way it is. We've debated on it for quite some time and, unfortunately, we've decided that GOG.com simply cannot remain in its current form.

We're very grateful for all support we've received from all of you in the past two years. Working on GOG.com was a great adventure for all of us and an unforgettable journey to the past, through the long and wonderful history of PC gaming.

This doesn't mean the idea behind GOG.com is gone forever. We're closing down the service and putting this era behind us as new challenges await.

On a technical note, this week we'll put in place a solution to allow everyone to re-download their games. Stay tuned to this page and follow us on Twitter and Facebook for updates.

All the best,
GOG.com Team"
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  • edited September 2010
    Probably got sued or something...
  • edited September 2010
    Sued? By whom? They were a legitimate site with business deals with everyone who's games they were selling.
    I was pretty shocked when I first discovered this, but now I'm having some suspicions. What if this is just a quasi-hoax and they're about to go out of beta? The phrases "in its current form" and "the way it is" are interesting, and with the new and upcoming games I read about just yesterday this feels a bit too sudden.
  • TorTor
    edited September 2010
    Nooooo! I loved GOG... Truly there is no justice in the world.
  • edited September 2010
    This is the saddest news I've heard in a long while. :(

    RIP Gog.com ... you will be missed more than you know. :( :( :(
  • edited September 2010
    I'm going to cry.
  • edited September 2010
    Harald B wrote: »
    Sued? By whom? They were a legitimate site with business deals with everyone who's games they were selling.
    I was pretty shocked when I first discovered this, but now I'm having some suspicions. What if this is just a quasi-hoax and they're about to go out of beta? The phrases "in its current form" and "the way it is" are interesting, and with the new and upcoming games I read about just yesterday this feels a bit too sudden.
    According to their twitter feed, their closure had something to do with the publishers not liking their non DRM approach.

    Their exact words were "Sometimes it's really hard being DRM-free... hard to keep things the way they are and keep management and publishers happy :("
  • edited September 2010
    I kinda figured as much
  • edited September 2010
    GOG's PR man Tom Ohle has responded, saying, "As
    the message on the site says, this doesn't mean GOG is gone. We'll have
    more to share in the coming days. No need to jump to conclusions :)"

    Source: http://www.neoseeker.com/news/14926-digital-pc-classics-service-good-old-games-closes/
  • TorTor
    edited September 2010
    Yeah, I'm seeing some rumors on twitter and other places claiming that this is just a PR stunt in poor taste. Supposedly it has to do with GOG going out of beta. Hoping it's true *grasping at straws*
  • edited September 2010
    Tor wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm seeing some rumors on twitter and other places claiming that this is just a PR stunt in poor taste. Supposedly it has to do with GOG going out of beta. Hoping it's true *grasping at straws*

    Yeah I saw that as well, it sounds somewhat plausable, but this kind of PR be bad mojo
  • edited September 2010
    It's gonna piss a lot of people off if this is just some stupid PR thing.
  • edited September 2010
    PimPamPet wrote: »
    It's gonna piss a lot of people off if this is just some stupid PR thing.
    More likely, it will work wonders. People will be so glad that it's back "from the dead" that they won't realize they've been ripped off until GoG gets a good chunk of money first.
  • edited September 2010
    GOG happens to shut down on International Talk Like a Pirate Day.

    Their Twitter feed notes that "sometimes it's really hard being DRM-free."

    Sounds a bit fishy. Something's up.
  • edited September 2010
    I'm shocked to hear this. It's really got me thinking as well. What if digitial distributors have to shut down. How do people have access to all the games they've bought online from that point onwards?

    I'll stick with my hard copies of games for now, the DD future is freaking me out.
  • edited September 2010
    snip3rfire wrote: »
    I'll stick with my hard copies of games for now, the DD future is freaking me out.
    Depending on the DRM of the game you're playing, having a "hard copy" is by no means assurance of playability in the future. If your game requires some form of online activation during the install(as many modern games do), then your disc will have no practical function or value.
  • edited September 2010
    Ah well, I'm mainly concerned about games of the yesteryear which don't actually require online activation. So provided I hold onto my old game discs and cd keys it should always be right.
  • edited September 2010
    snip3rfire wrote: »
    Ah well, I'm mainly concerned about games of the yesteryear which don't actually require online activation. So provided I hold onto my old game discs and key it should always be right.
    If they don't require activation and they were released via digital distribution(like Good Old Games installs, for instance), then you could easily back them up to writable media. I, for example, have burned all my Good Old Games installs to DVD as a back-up in case they shut down or(at the time, my main concern) just to get to installing the games faster. I also have copies of installers in my Dropbox(cloud storage). DRM-less digital distribution is not a risk, ever, because you can easily make back-ups.
  • edited September 2010
    Woah, WTH, they were fine a few days ago. I was going to buy several games from them this coming week.
  • edited September 2010
    They freaked me out but.. it's just PR.

    So it turns out it's just a marketing stunt (not very clever one, if you ask me). Michal Kicinski, co-founder of CD Projekt posted following message on Bankier.pl forum:

    "Attention! We scheduled a press conference on 22nd of September, early evening. Information about this event should be soon available at GOG.com (please, don't spread panic after reading what will be posted there:). Please keep in mind, that it's going to be an on-line conference and it's going to be a very first time for us to try such thing:).

    We basically closed all our schedules and we are going to send information about this event on Monday or Tuesday.

    MK
    CDP"

    So no worries - your games are safe (99% chance). GOG is just going to announce some big changes on Wednesday. Hopefully they will stay DRM-free.
  • edited September 2010
    i think they're going to adopt DRM

    So, the effect of this stunt is that "DRM GOG" is better than "No GOG at all"
  • edited September 2010
    i think they're going to adopt DRM

    So, the effect of this stunt is that "DRM GOG" is better than "No GOG at all"

    I really hope not, but considering the rumour that the company that owns CD Projekt, Optimus, was bought out recently, possibly by a publisher, it would not surprise me if they are being forced to change company policy on DRM.
  • edited September 2010
    This really sucks! That was my favourite site to get games from, no doubt... I loved the concept of no DRM and it seemed as though they were doing alright too... with all the games they kept adding.

    But I guess not :(
  • edited September 2010
    i think they're going to adopt DRM

    So, the effect of this stunt is that "DRM GOG" is better than "No GOG at all"

    I wouldn't have bought Psychonauts from GOG if it had DRM. I'd have gotten it from Steam instead. If both versions have DRM, then the only thing GOG has to offer is the extras, and I don't care much about wallpapers. Soundtracks, on the other hand, can be awesome (like Beyond Good & Evil), but GOG doesn't have the Psychonauts soundtrack. If GOG does add DRM, they're going to have to step-up the bonuses to lure me away from other services.


    Oh, and minor update from GOG:
    UPDATE 20.09.2010
    First of all, we apologize everyone for the whole situation and closing GOG.com. We do understand the timing for taking down the site caused confusion and many users didn't manage to download all their games. Unfortunately we had to close the service due to business and technical reasons.

    At the same time we guarantee that every user who bought any game on GOG.com will be able to download all their games with bonus materials, DRM-free and as many times as they need starting this Thursday.

    The official statement from GOG.com's management concerning the ongoing events is planned on Wednesday. If you want to receive further information about GOG.com, please send an email to update_media@gog.com if you're a media representative or to update_users@gog.com if you're a user without a GOG account.
  • edited September 2010
    When these people re-open their site, I'm going to have to check it out. It sounds good, and I wish I knew about it before all this. There's a few games that I want that aren't on steam. It'd be good to see what they have available.
  • edited September 2010
    According to the latest gossip, GOG has been bought by Valve (Steam). I hope i'm wrong but if that's the case it's just another example of hard working independent team got eaten by the big guns.

    source: http://www.gram.pl/news_8QjrH,m6_GOG_wykupiony_przez_konkurencje.html
  • edited September 2010
    According to the latest gossip, GOG has been bought by Valve (Steam). I hope i'm wrong but if that's the case it's just another example of hard working independent team got eaten by the big guns.

    I don't think so even though it would be great to get some of these games on steam. I'm looking at you Phantasmagoria 1+2!
  • TeaTea
    edited September 2010
    http://didimatic.com/forum/index.php
    A contingent forum in place of the original GOG.com General Discussion board has been set up. If you miss the GOG folk, sign up.
  • edited September 2010
    According to the latest gossip, GOG has been bought by Valve (Steam). I hope i'm wrong but if that's the case it's just another example of hard working independent team got eaten by the big guns.

    I sure hope that's false. If true, that's the end of the "no-drm" thing, which was the main reason I loved GOG so much.
  • edited September 2010
    PimPamPet wrote: »
    I sure hope that's false. If true, that's the end of the "no-drm" thing, which was the main reason I loved GOG so much.

    Why would Valve buying GOG automatically end DRM-free games? I know that Steam is DRM, but that doesn't preclude them from selling some game with DRM, and some without. Direct2Drive has some games that are DRM-free. Has Valve Software made some comments about DRM that I'm not aware of?

    Also, I've heard a lot of rumors about what happened: "OnLive bought GOG", "One of the major publishers bought GOG", "Impulse and GOG are merging", "Mircosoft bought GOG's parent company", "This is an ARG for the release of System Shock 2, 'SHODAN hacked GOG'"...

    EDIT: Best rumor yet, someone is claiming this is a still grabbed from their teaser: GOG0387.png
  • edited September 2010
    figmentPez wrote: »
    EDIT: Best rumor yet, someone is claiming this is a still grabbed from their teaser: <snip>
    If by teaser you mean that youtube thing Tor just linked to, then yes. I'm looking at it right now at 0:13. Hmm..
    edit: I know this is not the most decisive of proof, but here:
    167njpv.png
  • edited September 2010
    Although I haven't really bought anything from GOG, I don't really understand the signifigance of the "Baldur's Gate" ad. Can someone tell me?
  • edited September 2010
    I think the point is that they never actually sold Baldur's Gate, so that must mean they're up to something and coming back.
  • edited September 2010
    Although I haven't really bought anything from GOG, I don't really understand the signifigance of the "Baldur's Gate" ad. Can someone tell me?

    One, they never sold Baldur's Gate. It was one of their most requested games, though.
    Two, even today, the game is somewhat expensive used. Having it on GOG means it'll likely cost less than $10 total.
  • edited September 2010
    Although I haven't really bought anything from GOG, I don't really understand the signifigance of the "Baldur's Gate" ad. Can someone tell me?

    As Harald B said, GOG never sold Baldur's Gate. In fact, for the last year there hasn't been any digital distribution site with the game (since Gametap lost it last June or so). For a while no one knew who had the rights to Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment and, I think, Icewind Dale. It wasn't clear who owned the IP. There was a re-release on DVD in Europe, but nothing in the US or elsewhere in the world, and certainly nothing on Steam, D2D, GamersGate, etc.

    If GOG.com managed to get rights to Baldur's Gate, that is a big win for them. If they managed to get BG, PS:T, etc and release them DRM-free, that will be huge.
  • edited September 2010
    Foxhack wrote: »
    Two, even today, the game is somewhat expensive used. Having it on GOG means it'll likely cost less than $10 total.

    Who knows, maybe top price-point is one of the things that will change with GOG in the future. Or maybe they'll charge $10 each for BG, Tales of the Sword Coast, BG2 and Throne of Bhaal... Well, $40 does seem excessive for all of them. I hope not.

    I'd pay $10 for Planescape: Torment, though.
  • edited September 2010
    Well, it's official, GOG.com is relaunching (in less than 19 hours). No closure. No DRM. No download clients. No buyout/merger.

    There is a weird and boring video though! Two guys pretending to be monks apologizing to the camera and very slowly doling out information. More videos in the future will say what big games are being added, and talk about new features for the site.
  • edited September 2010
    Bastards! I'm sure a lot of people will be angry, though I will recite what I said earlier, if having a crap sense of humour is the worst thing about them then they are doing better than most other companies at the mo. I think the strange video is due to them not being a big PR-focused company, I've always felt they've had a more amateur approach that kind of thing.
  • edited September 2010
    So did anyone actually believe it was anything more than a PR stunt for more than a second? Maybe I'm just a tad jaded, but it was blatantly obvious.
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