I know they released the Bone series for macos, so what about Sam and Max? I've been waiting 14 years for a sequel for cripes sake! It makes me frustrated that after so long, I am unable to put the 'episodes' on my computer.
Telltale has *a lot* of Mac users in the company, and we are very interested in porting Sam & Max to the Mac, but it's not something we've made a firm decision on yet. We're pretty busy getting the games out for the PC right now.
There are ways, but they are... questionable. So I'm afraid I'm not going to tell you how because I have no way of knowing whether you have bought the game and don't want to openly support illicit behaviour in these forums.
Sorry I am hoping that me telling you its possible might get you thinking about how to do it, so good luck!
Here's an alternative that might work, and if it's considered illegal, feel free to delete this post (just don't delete me :P)
There are quite a few PC emulators out there, and AFAIK, they're legal. I never used a Mac, so I don't know if PC emulators are anything like console emulators, but if they are, you'll need a legal copy of Windows (and Sam n' Max of course).
Just keep in mind: emulators are NOT very user friendly, and they can harm your computer if you don't know what your doing.
It has already been discussed many times, there is three principal ways to have Windows programs working on Mac OS X if you have an intel processor, and just one if you have a PowerPC (and this one won't let you play to any 3D Game).
About the three programs :
First : BootCamp. It allows you to install windows in your hard drive (or external hard drive) and choose the OS you want when you switch on your computer. It works like a very good PC, graphic card, webcam and everything drivers has been written by Apple. Actually that's the only way to play to Sam&Max Season 1. You need a CD of Windows and a CD Key.
Second : There is Parallels Desktop. It allows you to launch windows like a program under Mac OS X. It does not affect your processor speed but you need lots of ram (at least 2Gigs because XP is bad optimised and OS X is still running). Actually, you can only use apps that don't need graphic acceleration. Most of them doesn't, but games does. Future releases will support graphic acceleration, but for the moment it is not possible.
You need also a Windows CD (or ISO) and a proper key. You can also use the same partition than BootCamp, but Microsoft don't let you authorize two windows ; so one of the two cannot use "genuine authentication required" programs.
Third one : An application called CrossOver let you launch Windows programs under OS X without installing windows. You just have to prepare them to fit in a "bottle" as they call it. Actually it doesn't work with legally pruchased version of Sam&Max, someone told it works with cracked one, I didn't try because I don't have this.
For the moment, I'm forced to launch this ugly, buggy and unfriendly windows XP to play with Sam&Max via BootCamp, and it works perfectly.
BootCamp is free (Parallels and Crossover are not).
I have a MacBook with Bootcamp and Windows XP. Sam and Max runs fin (if a little raggy due to my patethic 512 MB of RAM).
I usually play on my windows destop, but activated on my laptop as well so I have Sam and Max on the go. I plan to install an extra GB of RAM when budget allows. I expect that Sam and Max will run much more smoothly then.
I even have Adventure Games Studio (AGS) games like Apprentice, Shivah, and Super Jazz Man on my Mac Laptop
Mac's use pretty standard hardware these days and have done for years - My girlfriends 4-year old iMac (the PPC lampshade one) uses standard Laptop-style SODIMMs, a DVD/CD-RW combi drive and a GeForce 2 MX.
The only thing that's really proprietary about them anymore is the OS, and Jobs 'n' co. are under increasing pressure to allow it to be released for non-Apple hardware, especially since the latest stuff is x86-based and we have Bootcamp etc.
Infact, if Apple allowed people to install the OS on anything but their massively overpriced designer hardware, they'd probaby overtake Microsoft's installed userbase in a heartbeat!
Optimaximal > you sure forget taht the power of Macintosh today is synergy. Remember the simple quote from the last keynote :
"People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware."
A big part of stability of Mac OS X is because every part of the hardware is already known and controlled by the OS. There is no drivers to install, nothing at all. It's all bundled.
Yesterday, a report has been posted, about the average price of laptops for example. Let's see... oh ! it's just 50 bucks less than a macbook.
Mac are not expansive, it's most of the time cheaper than equal configuration's PCs (most of the time, not all the time, don't bring me "hey look at the mac mini" :P).
And yes it uses standard hardware, but you cannot use same drivers : I cant use official catalyst to manage my graphic card, even under windows.
Yeah, I don't think Jobs will ever let MacOS officially go out to non-Apple machines, because his big thing is that Apple maintains quality by making every aspect of the computer (hardware/software/design/peripherals) in the same place. Letting you drop OS X on a Dell or homebuilt PC would run pretty contrary to that.
I know that Kevin is aware of Cider, and is interested in it and other VM solutions for getting the games up and running at least on Intel macs, but we haven't given it a look yet. There's not a lot of time for our lead programmer to play around with porting solutions at the moment
So how does Windows XP handle the Mac hardware in your MacBook, Rasher? Did you need to install special drivers or something?
--Erwin
I just got it recently, so I haven't had to update any drivers yet. I had the Mac paople install everything for me when I bought the laptop. It even has an NvIDia graphics card.
So far everything works great, but I've only installed adventure games that don't demand much. AGS games and Sam and Max work fine. I have yet to install something like Oblivion. Maybe when I get my 2 GBs of RAM.
Cider looks very interesting, and if thing thing works really well then my next gaming machine just might be a Mac. Otherwise I'm sticking with Dell.
As soon as I saw that, I bought Sam n Max the entire season.
I've only had a chance to try a few seconds of it (started it up in the first episode and tried to persuade a certain rat to give back my phone) but it worked wonderfully so far.
As soon as I saw that, I bought Sam n Max the entire season.
yeah, me too ! It works fine, but a little bit raggy only when switching between 2 scenes.
However, this is only a short term solution for me, and be sure I'll buy again the whole season if it comes out for Mac ! Don't waste your precious time with gaming console ports, please make a Mac port first! This game is so funny... too funny for the boring Xbox360!
I'm missing some textures sometimes, mostly notable when going out of the office and talking to Bosco, anything you've seen?
I'm trying to run the demo on VMWare now -- I get through the opening credits fine, but then the texture of the wall looks like rainbow confetti and the virtual machine crashes. What settings are you two using?
I'm trying to run the demo on VMWare now -- I get through the opening credits fine, but then the texture of the wall looks like rainbow confetti and the virtual machine crashes. What settings are you two using?
Be sure "direct X 8" is activated, and install the VMware drivers in windows. I allowed 1Gb of RAM for VMware (my computer has 1.5Gb). That's all I think.
But sorry, I posted a little bit to fast, and going through the game more deeply, I found a lot of missing textures (not noticable at first), and some "shiny" characters.
So I realised VMware was not a good solution, and I installed windows on a dedicated partition with Bootcamp, and it works a lot faster and better. I never saw the game on a real PC, but with Bootcamp, I bet it works exactly has good as if it is installed on a real PC.
If you have a G5 processor and therefore cannot install windows, VMware might work, but you'd better pray for a real mac version to come out one day... I still want this version, so I could uninstall windows for good !
Yeah I noticed the missing textures and the "shiny" characters as well. But I don't really have the possibility (time, diskspace mostly) to install boot camp so I'll try and get through it
The hardest part is talking to Bosco since the text lines are obfuscated.
Managed to play through ep 2 and I'm part through ep 3, still having a great time. There aren't that many missing textures.
I changed the display settings in windows to 16bit, from 32bit for the desktop and that made it slightly better.
In my own experience so far, it works fantastically on my iMac, but crashes after the intro credits on my MacBook. I'd assume that it won't work properly on any system with integrated graphics, meaning you need an iMac (minus the cheapest 17"), MacBook Pro or MacPro
just signed up to say i'm a big fan of Sam & Max, and i'm disappointed there isn't a Mac version. i've got a lot invested in my PowerPC Mac and can't afford to switch everything to a new Mac Pro right now. please bring Sam & Max to the Mac!
I really hope you guys release these games for mac!
I enjoyed the sam & Max episodes on Windows!
But now that I'm stuck with my mac (Not that there's anything wrong with that.. I'll choose Mac over Windows anytime! ) I'd still like to re-play them all on the lovely OS X!
Please do this for all the Mac/Steve Purcell fans !
Lol all what 3% of the fan base ? LOL lets do linux while we are at it :P
sorry im no windows fan but apple? sheesh
to bad for ipod or apple wouldnt exist anymore (and thanks to ipods we have a 300% increase in national Tinnitus aka ringing in the ears) Thanks Steve!
Lol all what 3% of the fan base ? LOL lets do linux while we are at it :P
sorry im no windows fan but apple? sheesh
to bad for ipod or apple wouldnt exist anymore (and thanks to ipods we have a 300% increase in national Tinnitus aka ringing in the ears) Thanks Steve!
:P
In the US, it represents 15% of the laptop industry and 10% of desktop computers. Why my numbers are that different ? Because they don't count companies. In fact, who plays at work ? Don't underestimate Macs, there is more people who likes them than you think...
It works flawless using parallels with Direct 3D video enabled. I have a Macbook with 2 gig Ram. You just have to make sure to enable DirecT 3D under the video settings in Parallels, it is turned off by default. If you run in coherence mode, it will run right in OS X with fully having to switch over to windows.
Lol all what 3% of the fan base ? LOL lets do linux while we are at it :P
Hey, why not? I know I would love a Linux port. Or at least a patch to remove the little splash screen so the Windows version would work in Wine properly.
If SecuROM works in WINE, you might be able to run the retail / season one bonus disc version of the game in WINE. The online activation stuff ("the little splash screen") relies on a lot of Windows underpinnings that aren't there in WINE, but the disc versions of the games might be more friendly.
It works flawless using parallels with Direct 3D video enabled. I have a Macbook with 2 gig Ram. You just have to make sure to enable DirecT 3D under the video settings in Parallels, it is turned off by default. If you run in coherence mode, it will run right in OS X with fully having to switch over to windows.
I did, and even if it works well, graphics are basic (no anti aliasing, several interface bugs, missing textures — Jimmy two teeth and the cheese of episode one looks like they experienced oil baths ^^ — and of course no bump mapping). So, it's still not a full working alternative. But authentication works well indeed
Well yay. I just read that Wine was at one point patched to allow SecuROM to function correctly.
All the more reason to be excited for my Bonus disk to come. Get to work on those Case Files! *Cracks whip
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There are quite a few PC emulators out there, and AFAIK, they're legal. I never used a Mac, so I don't know if PC emulators are anything like console emulators, but if they are, you'll need a legal copy of Windows (and Sam n' Max of course).
Just keep in mind: emulators are NOT very user friendly, and they can harm your computer if you don't know what your doing.
About the three programs :
First : BootCamp. It allows you to install windows in your hard drive (or external hard drive) and choose the OS you want when you switch on your computer. It works like a very good PC, graphic card, webcam and everything drivers has been written by Apple. Actually that's the only way to play to Sam&Max Season 1. You need a CD of Windows and a CD Key.
Second : There is Parallels Desktop. It allows you to launch windows like a program under Mac OS X. It does not affect your processor speed but you need lots of ram (at least 2Gigs because XP is bad optimised and OS X is still running). Actually, you can only use apps that don't need graphic acceleration. Most of them doesn't, but games does. Future releases will support graphic acceleration, but for the moment it is not possible.
You need also a Windows CD (or ISO) and a proper key. You can also use the same partition than BootCamp, but Microsoft don't let you authorize two windows ; so one of the two cannot use "genuine authentication required" programs.
Third one : An application called CrossOver let you launch Windows programs under OS X without installing windows. You just have to prepare them to fit in a "bottle" as they call it. Actually it doesn't work with legally pruchased version of Sam&Max, someone told it works with cracked one, I didn't try because I don't have this.
For the moment, I'm forced to launch this ugly, buggy and unfriendly windows XP to play with Sam&Max via BootCamp, and it works perfectly.
BootCamp is free (Parallels and Crossover are not).
I usually play on my windows destop, but activated on my laptop as well so I have Sam and Max on the go. I plan to install an extra GB of RAM when budget allows. I expect that Sam and Max will run much more smoothly then.
I even have Adventure Games Studio (AGS) games like Apprentice, Shivah, and Super Jazz Man on my Mac Laptop
--Erwin
The only thing that's really proprietary about them anymore is the OS, and Jobs 'n' co. are under increasing pressure to allow it to be released for non-Apple hardware, especially since the latest stuff is x86-based and we have Bootcamp etc.
Infact, if Apple allowed people to install the OS on anything but their massively overpriced designer hardware, they'd probaby overtake Microsoft's installed userbase in a heartbeat!
"People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware."
A big part of stability of Mac OS X is because every part of the hardware is already known and controlled by the OS. There is no drivers to install, nothing at all. It's all bundled.
Yesterday, a report has been posted, about the average price of laptops for example. Let's see... oh ! it's just 50 bucks less than a macbook.
Mac are not expansive, it's most of the time cheaper than equal configuration's PCs (most of the time, not all the time, don't bring me "hey look at the mac mini" :P).
And yes it uses standard hardware, but you cannot use same drivers : I cant use official catalyst to manage my graphic card, even under windows.
I detest using Windows.
Me too!!!!
http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=contentexpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=24
It seems to be very interesting for MacUsers
I just got it recently, so I haven't had to update any drivers yet. I had the Mac paople install everything for me when I bought the laptop. It even has an NvIDia graphics card.
So far everything works great, but I've only installed adventure games that don't demand much. AGS games and Sam and Max work fine. I have yet to install something like Oblivion. Maybe when I get my 2 GBs of RAM.
Cider looks very interesting, and if thing thing works really well then my next gaming machine just might be a Mac. Otherwise I'm sticking with Dell.
http://tar.vox.com/library/post/sam-max-on-vmware-fusion-2.html
As soon as I saw that, I bought Sam n Max the entire season.
I've only had a chance to try a few seconds of it (started it up in the first episode and tried to persuade a certain rat to give back my phone) but it worked wonderfully so far.
/Johan
yeah, me too ! It works fine, but a little bit raggy only when switching between 2 scenes.
However, this is only a short term solution for me, and be sure I'll buy again the whole season if it comes out for Mac ! Don't waste your precious time with gaming console ports, please make a Mac port first! This game is so funny... too funny for the boring Xbox360!
Yeah, it takes a while to do that here too.
I'm missing some textures sometimes, mostly notable when going out of the office and talking to Bosco, anything you've seen?
I'm trying to run the demo on VMWare now -- I get through the opening credits fine, but then the texture of the wall looks like rainbow confetti and the virtual machine crashes. What settings are you two using?
Be sure "direct X 8" is activated, and install the VMware drivers in windows. I allowed 1Gb of RAM for VMware (my computer has 1.5Gb). That's all I think.
But sorry, I posted a little bit to fast, and going through the game more deeply, I found a lot of missing textures (not noticable at first), and some "shiny" characters.
So I realised VMware was not a good solution, and I installed windows on a dedicated partition with Bootcamp, and it works a lot faster and better. I never saw the game on a real PC, but with Bootcamp, I bet it works exactly has good as if it is installed on a real PC.
If you have a G5 processor and therefore cannot install windows, VMware might work, but you'd better pray for a real mac version to come out one day... I still want this version, so I could uninstall windows for good !
The hardest part is talking to Bosco since the text lines are obfuscated.
Managed to play through ep 2 and I'm part through ep 3, still having a great time. There aren't that many missing textures.
I changed the display settings in windows to 16bit, from 32bit for the desktop and that made it slightly better.
Installing the vmware upgrade now and buying the season.
I enjoyed the sam & Max episodes on Windows!
But now that I'm stuck with my mac (Not that there's anything wrong with that.. I'll choose Mac over Windows anytime!
Please do this for all the Mac/Steve Purcell fans !
- Ole C
sorry im no windows fan but apple? sheesh
to bad for ipod or apple wouldnt exist anymore (and thanks to ipods we have a 300% increase in national Tinnitus aka ringing in the ears) Thanks Steve!
:P
BTW, why not a Java version?... I just want to play S&M on my cellphone.
In the US, it represents 15% of the laptop industry and 10% of desktop computers. Why my numbers are that different ? Because they don't count companies. In fact, who plays at work ? Don't underestimate Macs, there is more people who likes them than you think...
Currently Parallels seems to work better, but the frame rate sometimes drops below beeing usable, especially when you are in the mob's casino.
In VMWare - as written above - it loses a lot of time the textures making it often impossible even to leave the game orderly
Just too bad. I'd really appreciate a Mac version.
Hey, why not? I know I would love a Linux port. Or at least a patch to remove the little splash screen so the Windows version would work in Wine properly.
I did, and even if it works well, graphics are basic (no anti aliasing, several interface bugs, missing textures — Jimmy two teeth and the cheese of episode one looks like they experienced oil baths ^^ — and of course no bump mapping). So, it's still not a full working alternative. But authentication works well indeed
All the more reason to be excited for my Bonus disk to come. Get to work on those Case Files!
*Cracks whip