I'm done pre-ordering TT games...

edited November 2010 in General Chat
I know this might sound bad, I love these games. I have pre-ordered every Sam and Max series, as well as Monkey Island. It seems that with a little patience, every game Telltale sells eventually goes on sale for a ridiculously good price. Sam and Max seasons for $10?! Seriously, I have only played 2 episodes so far in Devil's Playhouse. I should have waited. I know Monkey Island has been on sale for great prices, and if I buy them on sale from this site I can still pay to get the DVD. For Monkey Island though - to get the whole series for $5 last week on Steam, I would have forgone the DVD. I think a little patience will pay off - I want Back to the Future, but in all honesty, I probably won't play it close to release, and if I wait I can get a sweet deal. I know that Telltale probably uses those pre-orders to work from, and they help the company - but after seeing the ridiculous deals pop up, I'm going to be waiting from now on.

Although...if they do another Monkey Island series I might change my mind...
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  • edited October 2010
    Armand1880 wrote: »
    I know this might sound bad, I love these games. I have pre-ordered every Sam and Max series, as well as Monkey Island. It seems that with a little patience, every game Telltale sells eventually goes on sale for a ridiculously good price. Sam and Max seasons for $10?! Seriously, I have only played 2 episodes so far in Devil's Playhouse. I should have waited. I know Monkey Island has been on sale for great prices, and if I buy them on sale from this site I can still pay to get the DVD. For Monkey Island though - to get the whole series for $5 last week on Steam, I would have forgone the DVD. I think a little patience will pay off - I want Back to the Future, but in all honesty, I probably won't play it close to release, and if I wait I can get a sweet deal. I know that Telltale probably uses those pre-orders to work from, and they help the company - but after seeing the ridiculous deals pop up, I'm going to be waiting from now on.

    Although...if they do another Monkey Island series I might change my mind...

    Well also when you pre-order you get to have access to the amazing pre order forums, you did when you pre-ordered TDP and ToMI, I think those and the limited edition Cover-art. I think it's well worth it, well to me anyways.
  • edited October 2010
    To be honest, I've felt the same thing before when I see the incredible sales TT puts up constantly (and often without warning). And I can't count the number of free episodes I've had to pass off to other people because I've already ordered or pre-ordered everything Telltale's done.

    Of course, it's common sense that the price of things will go down over time but it happens so often and so quickly with Telltale games that it makes some of the most loyal customers - those that order a game first thing - feel kinda like suckers six months later. Especially when the only preorder bonus is an early forum or a special dvd slipcase that everyone else ends up being able to get from the store anyway.

    Not that I really have any ideas. Maybe more sales on merchandise other than games? Or better yet, how about giving people credit for a future game when they pre-order, rather than a free episode of a game they likely already have? Or some piece of merchandise that's genuinely exclusive so we won't feel like suckers for pre-ordering when the price drops a few months later.
  • edited October 2010
    I buy them at full price despite the insane sales because I want Telltale to continue making games. Simple as that.
  • edited October 2010
    It all depends on how much I want something, if I can't bare waiting to play, say the season of Sam & Max i'll pre-order and take my goodies. If I wanna wait and see like say the Jurassic park game which is yet to win my heart (which is fine for now, there's no actual content) then maybe i'll wait and see what others are saying and wait for a sale and get fantastic value. Nobody's forcing my hand

    The power is YOURS!

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  • edited October 2010
    ogod, thanks dude, now I've got the end theme in my head, it's never going to leave...

    I haven't ever pre-ordered Telltale games but I think that comes from the crippling lack of money that every grad student has to deal with. I definitely would if I did have the cash for the simple reason that by doing so, I'm helping to ensure they keep turning out good games in the future. Really, any purchase does that though, so it ultimately becomes 'how much do you want to spend on TTG?'.
  • edited October 2010
    You can't blame the company for you own consumerist impulses.

    I think preorder is for people who want to play the game right at the first minute the game is out. If you bought it that way and then play the game a year a later....well i don't know why you preorder in the first place.
  • edited October 2010
    I'm fine with pre-ordering. Getting into the forums is cool, plus when they throw random bonuses at the people for pre-ordering that's what I like. TF2 items? Hell yeah. Special Box art? Hell Yeah.
  • edited October 2010
    Honestly the added bonus woes me little.
  • edited October 2010
    I kind of wish there were more bonuses with the preorders of The Devil's Playhouse...
  • edited October 2010
    The only reason they can afford to sell the games now for so cheap, is because people pre-ordered.

    I paid $19.99 for Out from Boneville, and $12.99 for The Great Cow Race. (You can buy them both as a bundle for $14.95 now). I have to say I am pretty proud to have contributed to Telltale's current status. When those games came out, no one knew if Telltale was going to survive the first year. Now they are a pretty huge company (relatively) and those of us who bought those games at the beginning are a big part of that (I would like to think).

    So if you feel like $25, or $35 is a fair price for a 5 game series, and you can afford it, you should pre-order them to keep Telltale the great company it is. If you can't afford it, by all means wait for the deals. But, make sure you thank those of us doing the pre-ordering! :D
  • edited October 2010
    I am not going to pre-order BttF, I will wait until the games are released and buy them then 1 month at a time. The added bonus of Puzzle Agent for pre-ordering is not really pulling me, because I am not at all interested in Puzzle Agent.
  • edited October 2010
    I don't mind preordering - these games give me lots of enjoyment, they're pretty goddamn cheap, and preordering allows me to get all games as they are released and play them straight away :) That's worth missing out on sales six or more months later, and free episodes and I tend to give away all my free episodes (such as the Puzzle Agent with BTTF) to friends anyway.
  • edited October 2010
    If somebody is able to wait, good luck to them. As for me... I want it now! NOW! Dammit, this minute!
  • edited October 2010
    What you lose: the month-by-month release.
    And that's a HUGE difference - the pacing is really different.
  • edited October 2010
    You say "full price" as if it's a huge number... it's only $25!
    Where do you find NEW games for $25?!

    Don't be so cheap man
  • edited October 2010
    DarthBo wrote: »
    You say "full price" as if it's a huge number... it's only $25!
    Where do you find NEW games for $25?!

    Don't be so cheap man
    Super Meat Boy came out not too long ago for $10. New indie games are often less than $30, regardless of quality.
  • edited October 2010
    I was actually a little bit sad that BttF was only $25. I would've paid $35 or more for it. :o
  • edited October 2010
    I am not going to pre-order BttF, I will wait until the games are released and buy them then 1 month at a time. The added bonus of Puzzle Agent for pre-ordering is not really pulling me, because I am not at all interested in Puzzle Agent.

    Back to the Future is not going to be available '1 month at a time' for purchase. It's going to be much like The Devil's Playhouse was.
  • edited October 2010
    Back to the Future is not going to be available '1 month at a time' for purchase. It's going to be much like The Devil's Playhouse was.

    So... the first chapter is going to be Available so I can taste it and see if I upgrade?
  • edited October 2010
    GinnyN wrote: »
    So... the first chapter is going to be Available so I can taste it and see if I upgrade?

    No, Back to the Future is only available as a season purchase, and it's only $24.95 so it's already a great price and a dollar of every pre-order goes to the Michael J. Fox Foundation.

    The 121GIGAWATTS Free Episode can act as your 'taste' of the game but it's not upgradable.
  • edited October 2010
    No, Back to the Future is only available as a season purchase, and it's only $24.95 so it's already a great price and a dollar of every pre-order goes to the Michael J. Fox Foundation.

    The 121GIGAWATTS Free Episode can act as your 'taste' of the game but it's not upgradable.

    Hehhhh. Thanks for the tip.

    It's not like I'm saying is expensive, it's just I'm not really a Back to the Future Fan and I wanna know first if I'll like it if I can. Plus, I said to myself I'm not going to buy anything from Telltale until my last order arrives. And it's still backordered ^^U
  • edited October 2010
    GinnyN wrote: »
    Hehhhh. Thanks for the tip.

    It's not like I'm saying is expensive, it's just I'm not really a Back to the Future Fan and I wanna know first if I'll like it if I can. Plus, I said to myself I'm not going to buy anything from Telltale until my last order arrives. And it's still backordered ^^U

    Which item did you order?
  • edited October 2010
    Which item did you order?

    The Devil's Playhouse DVD
  • edited October 2010
    GinnyN wrote: »
    The Devil's Playhouse DVD

    That's pretty close to being ready to rock. :)
  • edited October 2010
    I can appreciate what you're saying. When I see these ridiculously low prices and think about how much I paid (Tales for £3... I'm looking at you) I feel a bit sick. But it's Telltale's low starting prices, commitment to their fanbase, excellent customer service and general nice-guy-ness that keep me coming back and preordering.
  • edited October 2010
    You could pretty much make this argument about any game. Eventually, games drop in price, and PC games tend to drop much faster than others. It's pretty much of a trade-off. Do you pay full price and get the game now or do you wait several months to get the game cheaper?

    Personally, in most cases, I tend to go for the latter. I figure I can wait a few months to save some money. With Telltale, however, I enjoy everything they do and respect them as a company, so I don't mind giving them more of my cash. There's also the fact that their games tend to be cheaper than most other games at retail, so it's like saving some money anyways.

    But, I will admit I was a little let down with The Devil's Playhouse pre-order bonus. "Special offers" for preordering turned into one 20% off coupon (not that that is shabby), so I'll probably be a little hesitant in the future letting something like that encourage me to preorder.
  • edited October 2010
    One 20% off coupon that was WORSE THAN A DEAL THAT THEY HAD GOING AT THE TIME.
  • edited October 2010
    One 20% off coupon that was WORSE THAN A DEAL THAT THEY HAD GOING AT THE TIME.

    One you could mix with!
  • edited October 2010
    Back to the Future is not going to be available '1 month at a time' for purchase. It's going to be much like The Devil's Playhouse was.
    I am not going to pre-order BttF, I will wait until the Episodes are released and buy 1 Episode 1 month at a time.

    *Fixed my text* :)
  • edited October 2010
    I would pre-order now if TTG were releasing TMI season 2 next year.
  • edited October 2010
    Back to the Future is not going to be available '1 month at a time' for purchase. It's going to be much like The Devil's Playhouse was.

    These last two releasees, Devil's Playhouse and Back to the Future, are like this. Is this how Telltale is going to be doing their games from now on?

    I guess with the first episode being made so readily available for free, the price is dropping a bit to $25 to make the full season seem better to bite. But like I said, I can wait - I'll keep an eye out for sales a few months after the last episode is out.
  • edited October 2010
    To be honest, most games halve in price after a month or so on sale. And then stay on sale at the price, or decrease more.

    Because TTG specialises in Digital downloads, they don't have any stock to clear, so they can get away with setting the price as low as they want: they didn't buy anything, so as long as they break even on the money they spent on developing, pretty much every sale, no matter the price is profit.

    So they can cope with these sales which bring in new customers. If you don't like it, then wait. It's what everyone does with Hard copies of games, if they don't want to pay launch prices.

    Whilst it would be nice to have some more pre-order incentives, The fact of getting the game the instant it comes out is enough for most people.
  • edited October 2010
    Hmm looking at how TTG has progressed, it seems to work quite well.

    If you preorder, you get a little incentive and can play the games as soon as they are available. From a business point of view, giving away too much wouldn't make sense, as you somehow buy it anyway, and afterwards they try to get those on board to whom the games for some reason or another weren't worth the full price and as there are no costs involved a reduced sale is better than none.

    Comparing it to tools the preorder discount could be a little bit more attractive but then again it would collide with what i wrote above. I think a major reason of the bonus game is that you give it away and introduce new players to TTG.

    Regarding the pricing for BTTF i think it's okay, dunno if you have to add taxes to the price as well. The licence for adventure gamers isn't as strong as Monkey Island or Sam&Max and therefore they offer some compensation. Secondly there are also some strong titles beeing released. We'll see if the game will be worth it. Anyway, for some the problem remains, that it's just BTTF, which might be a plus for other people as well.
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    edited October 2010
    taumel wrote: »
    If you preorder, you get a little incentive and can play the games as soon as they are available. From a business point of view, giving away too much wouldn't make sense, as you somehow buy it anyway, and afterwards they try to get those on board to whom the games for some reason or another weren't worth the full price and as there are no costs involved a reduced sale is better than none.

    Wise words! For some forum members, however, the price tag is just dropping too fast. In times of the internet, that might be justified, but still it sometimes feels wayyyy too fast.
  • edited October 2010
    But by being one of the first people to play the installment, you get to enjoy it sooner and provide valuable feedback for the next episodes to the devs. I don't see how that makes you a sucker. The games are already cheap as it is.
  • edited October 2010
    You can't be! You won't get your free puzzle agent!!
  • edited October 2010
    I find it funny how Telltale's awesome tendency to do great sales and discounts on their games is now backfiring. What's there to complain about? Would they rather everything stayed at full price forever? As far as I can see, this is win-win - Telltale sells more games, and more people get to play them.

    I don't mind pre-ordering, because while I know it's going to cost less later, the pre-order deals usually justify it. I'm happy with my free Puzzle Agent, and I've gotten free Wallace & Gromit episodes off past pre-orders. It's not like you're being ripped off anyway, and it's the full price purchases that allow Telltale to keep making these games.

    Aside from that, what I think people aren't understanding here is the economic concept of a durable good. You buy it early KNOWING that it will be cheaper later, or buy it later at a lower price, but losing the benefit you would have gained from playing the game as soon as it came out. They aren't forcing you to take one option or the other, but they easily give enough incentives for a full price purchase. Plus, BttF is $10 cheaper than their usual games, which is pretty awesome as well.
  • edited November 2010
    Words

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  • edited November 2010
    You are my favorite lurker.

    You have many favorites these days.
  • edited November 2010
    Wise words! For some forum members, however, the price tag is just dropping too fast. In times of the internet, that might be justified, but still it sometimes feels wayyyy too fast.
    They also have to compete against other games, price campaigns (devs, platforms, shops), customer habits and digital distribution for sure is a different thing.
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