The Last Airbender
The first 10 minutes were somewhat okay and the credits looked nice. The rest of this *thing* was very strange. It was pending between over-exposition and leaving me completely puzzled. The cuts are horrible to fit the movie in it's running time. The ending was puzzling. Who is that girl and why oh why are they setting up what looks like to follow-up-movies? 3/10
I can't decide if that score is just about right or a bit too high. Really bad movie, even worse adaptation.
Lets hope that IF this gets a sequel that it changes directors or something.
I don't understand WHAT people are seeing in Toy Story 3. Yeah, it's good, yeah it's touching at times, yeah it's done professionally, it's, well, it's a Pixar movie. It CAN'T be bad. But it's not THAT good. It's ten times worse than their latest WALL-E and Up.
The only bit uncanny valley I got was because I already knew Jeff Bridges did not look that young at all. When I got over that I was fine.
Clu looks like Jeff Bridges walked into The Polar Express. Uncanny valley abounds.
Also, Tron and Flynn weren't derezzed. Their deresolutions were not shown on screen in a movie full of deresolution. It's still wide open.
Tron I'll give you, though I still don't know how he'd survive what happened to him. However, unless a third movie is made and includes some hand waving, I'd consider what happened to Flynn to be fatal. Also, since Rinzler made Sam bleed rather than derez, I'm not sure that users can be derezzed in the same sense as programs. We've never actually seen a user killed in either the Encom system or the Grid.
Kick-ass: 8 out of 10. This had more swearing and blood than any movie I've ever seen, and it still managed to be comedic. It answered a question that needed answered pretty early on: What would happen to a normal person trying to be a super hero? Answer: They'd get their ass kicked. What would happen if that person succeeded, People would try to imitate and possibly kill this guy. Yeah, my main gripe was particularly how much violence there was. Most of it was done by a little girl, which made it majorly awesome.
Yeah, I liked this movie. It was just too violent at parts.
I never like hostage scenes like the one here, it freaks me out.
I don't understand WHAT people are seeing in Toy Story 3. Yeah, it's good, yeah it's touching at times, yeah it's done professionally, it's, well, it's a Pixar movie. It CAN'T be bad. But it's not THAT good. It's ten times worse than their latest WALL-E and Up.
But, maybe it's just me...
I didn't enjoy WALL-E, but I will agree that Up was better than Toy Story 3.
I didn't enjoy WALL-E, but I will agree that Up was better than Toy Story 3.
I really enjoyed the robots and their relationships in WALL-E. And all those emotions without a single spoken (comprehensive) word. It was awesome, in my opinion. Granted, when it came to the second 'return humans home' half of the movie, it did shift the focus of the narrative and humans themselves have introduced a lot of goofy elements, but the robot stuff was still awesome.
And I did shed some tears at the end, even though I knew WALL-E would be fixed (though his apparently blank erased memory at the very end did make me wonder if I was right). And I did shed some tears in Up (not only in the end, but in the beginning too...). But I didn't in Toy Story 3. I haven't found it emotionally touching the way the previous Pixar movies were, even though some people did.
9 - 4/10. Great visuals, but very, very poorly thought-out story. And the characters seemed like templates rather than actual people. Overall, it was obvious that this film was based off of a short that wasn't story-driven.
TRON: Legacy - 7/10. Same problem as 9, except the story was a lot better and characters were more interesting. Still, I felt like the story could have been a bit improved, like explaining how
Clu and his goons were able to find Flynn's hideout if they weren't able to before, and also how was Quorra able to get to the real world?
Overall, though, not the worst movie, but I felt like if just a little more time was given to the script, it could have been so much better
Oh yeah, and young Jeff Bridges was kind of creepy.
Despicable Me - 8/10. It was pretty funny, and I liked the character designs! My main gripe is with the film are the little girls, though. Other than the middle girl maybe, they weren't all that believable to me.
TRON: Legacy - 7/10. Same problem as 9, except the story was a lot better and characters were more interesting. Still, I felt like the story could have been a bit improved, like explaining how
Clu and his goons were able to find Flynn's hideout if they weren't able to before, and also how was Quorra able to get to the real world?
Overall, though, not the worst movie, but I felt like if just a little more time was given to the script, it could have been so much better
Oh yeah, and young Jeff Bridges was kind of creepy.
I thought one of those two things were explained well enough, and I guess I just made a reasonable assumption on the other.
Jarvis said that they were able to trace the recovered classic Light Cycle back to Flynn's hideout. Presumably, this means objects/data either carry a history of or leave a trail to wherever they've been on the Grid. A somewhat weak explanation, but it's better than nothing. As for Quorra, I guess I just assumed that a program could get through the portal if they were with Flynn's disc at the time, and the reason Clu needed it enabled as the master key was to allow all the programs out at once.
And yeah, I was having a conversation with my dad about what the uncanny valley is, and during the conversation, I brought up three film examples of it. As it turns out, they were the first three examples in the film section when I brought it up on Wikipedia to show my dad the definition. The films were Tin Toy, The Polar Express, and Tron: Legacy.
I thought one of those two things were explained well enough, and I guess I just made a reasonable assumption on the other.
Jarvis said that they were able to trace the recovered classic Light Cycle back to Flynn's hideout. Presumably, this means objects/data either carry a history of or leave a trail to wherever they've been on the Grid. A somewhat weak explanation, but it's better than nothing. As for Quorra, I guess I just assumed that a program could get through the portal if they were with Flynn's disc at the time, and the reason Clu needed it enabled as the master key was to allow all the programs out at once.
I'll give you the first one, but the second one
still doesn't explain how Quorra was able to attain flesh and bone... but then again, I suppose it doesn't make sense how the Flynns were able to turn into data either.
still doesn't explain how Quorra was able to attain flesh and bone... but then again, I suppose it doesn't make sense how the Flynns were able to turn into data either.
Well,
Clu was planning on bringing a whole damn army out through the portal, so it was pretty well established that the laser thing works both ways, even if we didn't see an example of that until the end of the second film. Also, she may not be flesh and bone. On the Grid, Sam wasn't derezzed when he was injured, he still bled. What that means for the form Quorra would take in the real world is hard to say.
You're right. Of course, even the Room looks like a masterpiece compared to TRON: Legacy.
I hate you. I wish I could hate you to death
Seriously, Your kidding here, right? Napoleon Dynamite looks like a masterpiece compared to The Room, Tron Legacy is easily 10 times better than Napoleon Dynamite (Yeah, I loathe Napoleon Dynamite with a passion)
I also hated the plot retcon about how Flynn created CLU.
I've seen Clu referred to in multiple places (though god dammit, I can't find a single one of them right now) as Clu 2 or 2.0 or something. This isn't the Encom system Clu from the first film, this is another Clu created for the Grid, so there's no retcon involved.
I've seen Clu referred to in multiple places (though god dammit, I can't find a single one of them right now) as Clu 2 or 2.0 or something. This isn't the Encom system Clu from the first film, this is another Clu created for the Grid, so there's no retcon involved.
You're right, I just found this on the TRON wiki. Okay, that, at least, is in the movie's favor for me. I went to this with a friend and we both sat in the theater and went WTF at this point and just looked at each other like, what the hell did they just do? So to know they didn't screw that up at least...at least takes some of the uncomfortable memories from this movie away from me. Still, Zeus created enough uncomfortable memories for me to last a lifetime. Oh, yeah, and the scene where Sam accidentally sits down in front of the laser and accidentally activates the thing and accidentally transports himself into the Grid- like activates the damn laser he just sat down in front of by accident; I forgot about that- I swear fricking Inspector Clouseau couldn't have screwed himself so stupidly so fast.
Seriously, Your kidding here, right? Napoleon Dynamite looks like a masterpiece compared to The Room, Tron Legacy is easily 10 times better than Napoleon Dynamite (Yeah, I loathe Napoleon Dynamite with a passion)
I thought one of those two things were explained well enough, and I guess I just made a reasonable assumption on the other.
Jarvis said that they were able to trace the recovered classic Light Cycle back to Flynn's hideout. Presumably, this means objects/data either carry a history of or leave a trail to wherever they've been on the Grid. A somewhat weak explanation, but it's better than nothing.
Yes, and remember the fricking part where Quorra says their lightcycles can't go that way or they'll malfunction and die? And then later when they do anyway? That part just blows my mind. Or like how the main characters have dinner at one point- right food in the Grid. FOOD IN THE GRID.
Yes, and remember the fricking part where Quorra says their lightcycles can't go that way or they'll malfunction and die? And then later when they do anyway? That part just blows my mind.
The reasonable assumption here is that the Lightcycles used on the game grid aren't able to go off-grid, not that Lightcycles that can go off-grid don't exist. Given how Flynn escaped the game grid in the first movie and that Clu 2 seems to have been created with Flynn's own knowledge, it's possible that Clu 2 purposely implemented this feature to prevent a similar escape.
Or like how the main characters have dinner at one point- right food in the Grid. FOOD IN THE GRID.
They're dining in a well-constructed hideout in the middle of nowhere, Flynn having escaped with practically nothing on his person, and you're complaining about the food? As much as I hate to keep using the term "reasonable assumption", the one here is that Flynn is somehow able to alter the programming of the Grid. Yes, there must be a limit to it or he would've overthrown Clu 2 long ago, but that limit lies somewhere between fixing Quorra's data and forcing the portal open in his living room. If he can build a swanky hideout, it's probably a safe bet that he can program in food.
Seriously, it's like you checked your suspension of disbelief at the door when you saw this movie.
They're dining in a well-constructed hideout in the middle of nowhere, Flynn having escaped with practically nothing on his person, and you're complaining about the food? As much as I hate to keep using the term "reasonable assumption", the one here is that Flynn is somehow able to alter the programming of the Grid. Yes, there must be a limit to it or he would've overthrown Clu 2 long ago, but that limit lies somewhere between fixing Quorra's data and forcing the portal open in his living room. If he can build a swanky hideout, it's probably a safe bet that he can program in food.
Oh, well that's useful. Programming in food. How nourishing are those pieces of data or whatever the hell they are? Or is Jeff Bridges not flesh but a program? Why the hell would he need to eat if he's data on the Grid. And if he's not, how the hell can he eat something made of data? Or is he so powerful he can program living tissue now? What is the function of this food? And while I'm at it, because I can not get over this bastard, what the hell is Zeus's function? Why the hell did Flynn make this bastard? Just so he could have a gay British dude who puts Dr. Frank N' Furter to shame hanging around the Grid? That's fine, I guess, except outside of having someone "trustworthy" to betray everybody, Zeus has no DAMN PURPOSE. Outside of CLU 2.0, what the hell were any of these character's functions as programs? Megaman Battle Network is a better damn sequel to TRON than TRON: Legacy. At least Megaman Battle Network keeps one of the core features of TRON intact; that EXE characters actually have functions on the net. I don't buy throwing frisbees and drinking hooch and being British as valid functions, no. And that's not even all of my complaints with this piece of shit.
The reasonable assumption here is that the Lightcycles used on the game grid aren't able to go off-grid, not that Lightcycles that can go off-grid don't exist. Given how Flynn escaped the game grid in the first movie and that Clu 2 seems to have been created with Flynn's own knowledge, it's possible that Clu 2 purposely implemented this feature to prevent a similar escape.
Oh, right. Well, based on the fact the movie tells you they can't go there and never explains this, and later they magically can go there, that's a big fricking assumption to be made.
Seriously, it's like you checked your suspension of disbelief at the door when you saw this movie.
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I went into TRON: Legacy hoping to think and be given an intelligent movie kind of like the first one. You're right. If you even try to think about this movie and don't hold your suspension of disbelief at everything that happens you might be able to enjoy it. I, on the other hand, like to think and be treated as intelligent by a movie at least to the point that it gives me a plot that makes sense. That's all I ask. That's not that hard to do. And TRON: Legacy couldn't even do that. Hot damn I hate this movie.
TRON and TRON:Legacy does not have the exact same plot. It is set in the same universe with some of the same things in it, but the basic plots are completely different.
TRON - Flynn, a User, is transported into the Grid by the Grid MCP, who brings him onto its own turf so it can destroy him. Flynn must fight alongside rogue programs to destroy the MCP before it takes over the world.
TRON: Legacy - Flynn's son accidentally transports himself into the Grid while looking for his father and must stop CLU 2.0, a program created to create the perfect world, from building an army and making his way back into our world with his army to make our world 'perfect', probably by destroying it. I'd say your argument fell apart at the fact that the main villains have goals as different as night and day, but I thought I'd outline it.
NOT. THE. SAME.COMPLETELY. DIFFERENT.
Oh, and unrelated to TRON, it is possible for the same plot to either be done really well or really shittily. Case in point - Gulliver's Travels.
CLU does not want to take over the world. He wants to create the perfect world. And the only way he will do that in our world is by destroying it. Flynn says CLU destroys anything that is imperfect. And "what is more imperfect than our world". It is stated without a doubt he will destroy it. So, again, wrong.
And Sam was technically brought in by Clu.
Oh lord, don't even get me stated on this shitty bullshit.
Dunno TRON Legacy was cool because it is a TRON movie.
If you're able looking behind this fact than it's a rather bad movie, sadly.
The story is boring, the film dares nothing, there is no depth, it's a shame if you compare it to all the things TRON once invented. I had the impression that the script was mainly driven by going through a checklist a) we somehow have to get into this world, b) we have to throw some discs, c) we need to show a lightcycle scene, d) let's show some of the other devices people are familiar with already, e) there has to be somekind of love story, f) oh meet and destroy some evil program again, g) let's add something new but nothing radically new, h) make it back safe again, ...
Boring! Beside of this it looks very good. The walls in the lightcycle scene are great. Overall i would have prefered a less physical look. The sound was very good as well. The chicks had nice haircuts and posed properly. I simply miss edges where i can scratch myself, important moments which remain in your brain and you like to talk to each other after the film. Maybe the most shocking scene was the way Quorra lost her arm temporarily. The acting sometimes was worse than in part 1.
Sad, what a wasted chance, and still it's a TRON movie. I won't rate it, i can't, i do not like to...
Rather Dashing, you give Secret Fawful his password back right now!
If I had Secret Fawful's password, I wouldn't just go about my day making the same posts as I usually do, but with a different account. What would be the fun in that?
Then again, I'm not sure what I'd do. I could try posting as an exaggerated caricature of Fawful meant to be crass and obnoxious, but that might end up being indistinguishable from Fawful himself.
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I can't decide if that score is just about right or a bit too high. Really bad movie, even worse adaptation.
Lets hope that IF this gets a sequel that it changes directors or something.
Don't know if I want to see it with my father anymore then, that's one of the things that I really don't like in movies...
11 out of 10
But, maybe it's just me...
Still, as you say, they're Pixar movies, they're all good (and yes I'd include Cars).
Clu looks like Jeff Bridges walked into The Polar Express. Uncanny valley abounds.
Yeah, I liked this movie. It was just too violent at parts.
I didn't enjoy WALL-E, but I will agree that Up was better than Toy Story 3.
I really enjoyed the robots and their relationships in WALL-E. And all those emotions without a single spoken (comprehensive) word. It was awesome, in my opinion. Granted, when it came to the second 'return humans home' half of the movie, it did shift the focus of the narrative and humans themselves have introduced a lot of goofy elements, but the robot stuff was still awesome.
9 - 4/10. Great visuals, but very, very poorly thought-out story. And the characters seemed like templates rather than actual people. Overall, it was obvious that this film was based off of a short that wasn't story-driven.
TRON: Legacy - 7/10. Same problem as 9, except the story was a lot better and characters were more interesting. Still, I felt like the story could have been a bit improved, like explaining how
Oh yeah, and young Jeff Bridges was kind of creepy.
Despicable Me - 8/10. It was pretty funny, and I liked the character designs! My main gripe is with the film are the little girls, though. Other than the middle girl maybe, they weren't all that believable to me.
I want to beat your face for saying this. Then I want to scream at you. Then I want to turn into Jason Voorhees and chase you through the woods.
Why? The story was great compared to 9. Don't get me wrong, it's no Citizen Kane or anything.
I thought one of those two things were explained well enough, and I guess I just made a reasonable assumption on the other.
And yeah, I was having a conversation with my dad about what the uncanny valley is, and during the conversation, I brought up three film examples of it. As it turns out, they were the first three examples in the film section when I brought it up on Wikipedia to show my dad the definition. The films were Tin Toy, The Polar Express, and Tron: Legacy.
I'll give you the first one, but the second one
You're right. Of course, even the Room looks like a masterpiece compared to TRON: Legacy.
Well,
I hate you. I wish I could hate you to death
Seriously, Your kidding here, right? Napoleon Dynamite looks like a masterpiece compared to The Room, Tron Legacy is easily 10 times better than Napoleon Dynamite (Yeah, I loathe Napoleon Dynamite with a passion)
I've seen Clu referred to in multiple places (though god dammit, I can't find a single one of them right now) as Clu 2 or 2.0 or something. This isn't the Encom system Clu from the first film, this is another Clu created for the Grid, so there's no retcon involved.
We should be friends.
You're right, I just found this on the TRON wiki. Okay, that, at least, is in the movie's favor for me. I went to this with a friend and we both sat in the theater and went WTF at this point and just looked at each other like, what the hell did they just do? So to know they didn't screw that up at least...at least takes some of the uncomfortable memories from this movie away from me. Still, Zeus created enough uncomfortable memories for me to last a lifetime. Oh, yeah, and the scene where Sam accidentally sits down in front of the laser and accidentally activates the thing and accidentally transports himself into the Grid- like activates the damn laser he just sat down in front of by accident; I forgot about that- I swear fricking Inspector Clouseau couldn't have screwed himself so stupidly so fast.
We could never be friends.
Yes, and remember the fricking part where Quorra says their lightcycles can't go that way or they'll malfunction and die? And then later when they do anyway? That part just blows my mind. Or like how the main characters have dinner at one point- right food in the Grid. FOOD IN THE GRID.
This movie.
Low res, lossy jpeg? You truly are a god-tier troll. We could all learn a thing or two here.
The reasonable assumption here is that the Lightcycles used on the game grid aren't able to go off-grid, not that Lightcycles that can go off-grid don't exist. Given how Flynn escaped the game grid in the first movie and that Clu 2 seems to have been created with Flynn's own knowledge, it's possible that Clu 2 purposely implemented this feature to prevent a similar escape.
They're dining in a well-constructed hideout in the middle of nowhere, Flynn having escaped with practically nothing on his person, and you're complaining about the food? As much as I hate to keep using the term "reasonable assumption", the one here is that Flynn is somehow able to alter the programming of the Grid. Yes, there must be a limit to it or he would've overthrown Clu 2 long ago, but that limit lies somewhere between fixing Quorra's data and forcing the portal open in his living room. If he can build a swanky hideout, it's probably a safe bet that he can program in food.
Seriously, it's like you checked your suspension of disbelief at the door when you saw this movie.
Oh, well that's useful. Programming in food. How nourishing are those pieces of data or whatever the hell they are? Or is Jeff Bridges not flesh but a program? Why the hell would he need to eat if he's data on the Grid. And if he's not, how the hell can he eat something made of data? Or is he so powerful he can program living tissue now? What is the function of this food? And while I'm at it, because I can not get over this bastard, what the hell is Zeus's function? Why the hell did Flynn make this bastard? Just so he could have a gay British dude who puts Dr. Frank N' Furter to shame hanging around the Grid? That's fine, I guess, except outside of having someone "trustworthy" to betray everybody, Zeus has no DAMN PURPOSE. Outside of CLU 2.0, what the hell were any of these character's functions as programs? Megaman Battle Network is a better damn sequel to TRON than TRON: Legacy. At least Megaman Battle Network keeps one of the core features of TRON intact; that EXE characters actually have functions on the net. I don't buy throwing frisbees and drinking hooch and being British as valid functions, no. And that's not even all of my complaints with this piece of shit.
Oh, right. Well, based on the fact the movie tells you they can't go there and never explains this, and later they magically can go there, that's a big fricking assumption to be made.
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I went into TRON: Legacy hoping to think and be given an intelligent movie kind of like the first one. You're right. If you even try to think about this movie and don't hold your suspension of disbelief at everything that happens you might be able to enjoy it. I, on the other hand, like to think and be treated as intelligent by a movie at least to the point that it gives me a plot that makes sense. That's all I ask. That's not that hard to do. And TRON: Legacy couldn't even do that. Hot damn I hate this movie.
TRON - Flynn, a User, is transported into the Grid by the Grid MCP, who brings him onto its own turf so it can destroy him. Flynn must fight alongside rogue programs to destroy the MCP before it takes over the world.
TRON: Legacy - Flynn's son accidentally transports himself into the Grid while looking for his father and must stop CLU 2.0, a program created to create the perfect world, from building an army and making his way back into our world with his army to make our world 'perfect', probably by destroying it. I'd say your argument fell apart at the fact that the main villains have goals as different as night and day, but I thought I'd outline it.
NOT. THE. SAME. COMPLETELY. DIFFERENT.
Oh, and unrelated to TRON, it is possible for the same plot to either be done really well or really shittily. Case in point - Gulliver's Travels.
MCP: Want to take over the world.
And Sam was technically brought in by Clu.
Oh lord, don't even get me stated on this shitty bullshit.
If you're able looking behind this fact than it's a rather bad movie, sadly.
The story is boring, the film dares nothing, there is no depth, it's a shame if you compare it to all the things TRON once invented. I had the impression that the script was mainly driven by going through a checklist a) we somehow have to get into this world, b) we have to throw some discs, c) we need to show a lightcycle scene, d) let's show some of the other devices people are familiar with already, e) there has to be somekind of love story, f) oh meet and destroy some evil program again, g) let's add something new but nothing radically new, h) make it back safe again, ...
Boring! Beside of this it looks very good. The walls in the lightcycle scene are great. Overall i would have prefered a less physical look. The sound was very good as well. The chicks had nice haircuts and posed properly. I simply miss edges where i can scratch myself, important moments which remain in your brain and you like to talk to each other after the film. Maybe the most shocking scene was the way Quorra lost her arm temporarily. The acting sometimes was worse than in part 1.
Sad, what a wasted chance, and still it's a TRON movie. I won't rate it, i can't, i do not like to...
Then again, I'm not sure what I'd do. I could try posting as an exaggerated caricature of Fawful meant to be crass and obnoxious, but that might end up being indistinguishable from Fawful himself.
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.
Gimme a subject to battle myself on.
Or a cloning lab.
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
Rifftrax? Please. When I was your age, we had Mystery Science Theater 3000 and we LOVED IT.