I might eventually go see this at the discounted theatres some day. Alot of movies fizzle by the time they get to their 4th story (I'm looking at you Shrek 4) but this might have a chance cause it's focusing more on Jack and New characters. I don't see the point of adding Elizabeth and Will seeing how their story ended in the 3rd one at the very end after the credits.
I might eventually go see this at the discounted theatres some day. Alot of movies fizzle by the time they get to their 4th story (I'm looking at you Shrek 4) but this might have a chance cause it's focusing more on Jack and New characters. I don't see the point of adding Elizabeth and Will seeing how their story ended in the 3rd one at the very end after the credits.
Also, as has been said, this film is going to be the first installment of a planned trilogy of new films, which gives the audience reason to believe that the writers, crew, etc. actually have a bag of quality ideas. For me personally, that killed off any thought of 'On Stranger Tides' being a desperate attempt to milk whatever the franchise had left to offer.
And, of course, as you've hinted at, they probably wouldn't be introducing new characters or going in a new direction if they planning on doing this just for the money.
...wait, so does that mean we may get a second Lego PotC game at some point in the future? Hey, I'm all for that!
Also, I thought they were going in a new direction because of the negative response At World's End got. But hey ho. As long as it doesn't suck, I'm all for it.
Also, I thought they were going in a new direction because of the negative response At World's End got. But hey ho. As long as it doesn't suck, I'm all for it.
I don't think they had much of a choice when it came to going in a new direction, thanks to how huge the budget cut was. Whether it worked in their favor or not, I'm not sure. Hopefully it did benefit them; it might have shifted their focus away from the whole CGI/special effects/visual spectacle thing, and more towards the storytelling side of things. That's my hope, anyway.
I am taking the family today.. I hope its great and I hope it does well.. my fear is that its success will be a litmus test for people judging the possible general interest in pirate themed entertainment... I.E. More Monkey Island.
I just saw it then, in 2D. I loved it; absolutely loved it. I went into it with a positive mindset, but had the lingering feeling that I might have to 'force myself' to enjoy it. Luckily this wasn't the case; it was genuinely enjoyable, to the degree that the "am I enjoying this?" thought completely left my mind.
I consider it on par with the first two films, and above 'At World's End'. I consider it a definite return to form.
Seeing it today with my mom, who is also a massive Pirates fan. I just wish my Dad wasn't working so he could go with us, as he's the one who first went with me to see Pirates 1 so many years ago. That movie was so good, that we were blown away and Pirates has since become family tradition.
I'm seeing it today as well. I wasn't so sure about the film given its current rating on Rotten Tomatoes but all the positive reviews from audience members (IcedHope & Hayden) have really got me revved up.
I'm seeing it today as well. I wasn't so sure about the film given its current rating on Rotten Tomatoes but all the positive reviews from audience members (IcedHope & Hayden) have really got me revved up.
Good, stay that way; you'll enjoy the movie more ! And yeah, Rotten Tomatoes was originally what gave me my slight misgivings too, but as I've said, there was no need for me to worry at all.
I saw it at midnight. It was really good. It started out a bit slow but once they got into the whole race to the fountain of youth story it got better.
Black Beard
was really cool and is perhaps the best Pirates Villian of the four films.
I really want to see this, but I'll probably have to wait until next week because I have been booked straight through the weekend by my parents. Oh well, I waited years for this movie, I suppose I can wait a little longer.
I just saw it then, in 2D. I loved it; absolutely loved it. I went into it with a positive mindset, but had the lingering feeling that I might have to 'force myself' to enjoy it. Luckily this wasn't the case; it was genuinely enjoyable, to the degree that the "am I enjoying this?" thought completely left my mind.
I consider it on par with the first two films, and above 'At World's End'. I consider it a definite return to form.
I'd put Dead Man's Chest above it. It's at least as good as At World's End, but probably a little bit better since it wasn't as ridiculous.
Well.... I really liked it but its tied with worlds end as my least favorite... The biggest thing it lacked was really memorable supporting characters.. all the leads were great though.
Well.... I really liked it but its tied with worlds end as my least favorite... The biggest thing it lacked was really memorable supporting characters.. all the leads were great though.
Yeah. It's all Captain Jack weirdness and nothing far beyond that. The mermaid subplot is subpar at best and the characters never truly fleshed out.
Yeah... Jack seemed REALLY off character... until the end. I DO hope they make it another trilogy if only to flesh out the newer characters more.
Also the only thing they seemed to use from the Tim Powers book was the title, the fountain and Blackbeard... and the title is the only thing that they had to "pay" for... because both the fountain and Blackbeard are not protected by a copyright.
It is sort of sad because just because they wanted to loot the title we will probably NEVER see an actual adaptation of Tim Powers excellent novel.
But I did really REALLY like the movie I want that to be clear.. I am just talking about the things I think they could have improved.
the dude that ran off with the mermaid. I assumed she devoured him.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I'd really like to know, actually. I was hoping they'd show us what happened in a clip after the credits, but we got something else instead.
Oh yeah, if you're in no rush to leave the cinema, then stick around, because the clip after the credits is a nice little bonus.
I really enjoyed the movie. The leads all did a great job of holding the movie and the various locations kept my interest. As someone else mentioned, it did start a little slow but it quickly sped up once the race to the Fountain of Youth began. I did find myself missing some of the supporting characters from the previous three films during the film and I'm still hoping that some might make an appearance in the fifth or sixth.
Phillip and Syrena failed to leave an impression on me. Perhaps it was the fact that he came off as a poor man's Will Turner or maybe it was because they didn't play a big enough role in the film to make me focus on their characterizations. While they did grow on me during the course of the movie, I wasn't particularly interested in their relationship but that doesn't stop me from wondering as to what happened with the two of them at the end.
But nobody went to the movie for them, they went for Captain Jack Sparrow.
Johnny Depp did a fine job and he looks like he's having fun with the role. On that same note, I didn't find Cruz and Depp to have much chemistry. Maybe it's just me but I didn't really believe him at the end when
he mentioned that he's always loved her. From all the squabbling and mixed signals, I wasn't expecting such a bold statement. I did recognize some hints of affection but most of the time, they were just bickering.
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Overall, I'd rank it above At World's End but below Dead Man's Chest. A very fun and entertaining movie to kick off the summer. I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm actually looking forward to the fifth.
he mentioned that he's always loved her. From all the squabbling and mixed signals, I wasn't expecting such a bold statement. I did recognize some hints of affection but most of the time, they were just bickering.
I took that part to mean that Jack had always loved himself, too. "I've always loved you" "Me too"
The most interesting, and greatest aspect of the story wasn't the Fountain of Youth but was
the prophecy of the One-Legged Man and Blackbeard's fear of it, which I thought was too underplayed and should have been the driving force of the entire film. Blackbeard was chilling when he killed his own man, but he should have been more chilling, so that when he was afraid, that made the One-Legged Man tale so much more potent. The scene when they're all at the Fountain and Barbossa appears in the shadows behind them all...something about how he was in shadow and you knew what was coming was so chilling and kind of eerie. I loved that. Best thing about the entire movie. Should have been biggest priority in the whole plot. It was the most genuine spark of good writing int he entire film, and the fact that Barbossa was going through all of the king's men stuff just for revenge was more like Jack's role in the first film, and was the most interesting thing for me.
The second best thing was
Blackbeard's death, which put the death scene for the villain in Indy 4 to shame, and was wonderfully gory and I was impressed they had the balls to do it like that. I was also impressed they had the balls to show Syrena semi-nude so much. I was like...huh...they're going to show that much tit in a PG-13 movie eh? Well, shrug, okay. It's unusual in America for a blockbuster to do this.
The best new character was Scrum. I loved Scrum. And the boy in Blackbeard's crew, just because it reminded me of Treasure Island. Jack was used great sometimes and badly others. Angelica was not bad. The missionary was worthless. The mermaids were kind of cool. The music was great. There were plotholes, especially that gravity defying water. If it defies gravity how the hell did it get onto some leaves!? The Spanish and their goal was one of the best surprises of the film. The ending with Jack, Angelica, and Blackbeard and
the poison was ripped straight from The Last Crusade
. The action wasn't as lame as people have said, but the entirety of the London scenes were awful, horrid, and terrible, except for MAYBE after Jack is done talking to his Dad. That might be where things take off, but before that I WAS HATING IT.
Saw it in a horrid theater, so I have to rewatch it on DVD someday to find my bearings and rate it.
Oh, yeah, and the zombies were worthless and stupid and I hated them and wish they weren't even there. The voodoo aspect was so underused I could vomit.
The most underused element of the entire plot was the hatred between the Catholics and the Protestants as exhibited in the Spanish and English. Here you have this lynchpin of the film, the entire motivation behind why the Spanish are seeking to get to the Fountain, you have these minor allusions to Papists... And nothing! They go out of their way to portray the British West Indies and the role of the trading company in 2/3 but do little with the Catholic church as an antagonist to English ambitions in the New World. A whole politically intriguing plotline boiled down to a stereotypical "Senorita" !
The Queen Anne's Revenge was seriously awesome... that ship was ten times cooler than the Pearl or the Dutchmen... They talked about how the Pearl was terrifying in the first film.. but really QAR was more intimidating to me... I REALLY wanted to see inside the captains quarters though that window looked really interesting on the outside.. its a shame we didn't get to see the reverse.
I took that part to mean that Jack had always loved himself, too. "I've always loved you" "Me too"
That's an interesting way to look at it. I'm actually relieved that they didn't actually
kiss. I really thought they were going to push Angelica as Jack's love interest right until the end where they would share a passionate kiss. I'm glad they instead have an almost-kiss; it stays more consistent with Jack's personality.
No doubt I'll be seeing again with friends/family so I'll be able to see that scene again but reflecting back on it, I think you may be right.
This movie was what I was expecting the first movie was supposed to be. Ugh. Hope the series can recover. I think there's supposed to be at least one more.
Saw it today. It was good. Really, really good. Just as good as the Black Pearl as far as I'm concerned. It also had the best 3D effects I've ever seen.
Saw it today. It was good. Really, really good. Just as good as the Black Pearl as far as I'm concerned. It also had the best 3D effects I've ever seen.
That is a pretty good compliment because it was shot in 2D and made 3D after.
I was talking to my my friend who I went and saw the movie. I think it does a pretty good job of being enteraining the whole thing..I wanted out of it was to play more off of The
Barbossa Black Beard plot. Probably showing Blackbeard being a bit more sinister. I also would have like to have had Ragetti and Pintel and I'm hoping they appear in the next film. Along with Cotton and Marty.
I thought it was better made than Dead man's and At Worlds end. It also felt more like a direct sequel to the first.
Yeah those are the secondary characters I missed the most too... but for sure mackenzie crook has said he has no intention on coming back so I do not think we will be seeing him....
I would even take mulroy and murtogg seeing as they seemed to have converted to piracy at the end of the last trilogy... That is really my biggest complaint and I am starting to sound like a broken record but they NEED to add some character actors in this thing.... That was something the writers really talked about in the last trilogy how they had all these great character actors to fill the second and third string cast.. it really make you like and want to get to know ALL the characters.
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Also, as has been said, this film is going to be the first installment of a planned trilogy of new films, which gives the audience reason to believe that the writers, crew, etc. actually have a bag of quality ideas. For me personally, that killed off any thought of 'On Stranger Tides' being a desperate attempt to milk whatever the franchise had left to offer.
And, of course, as you've hinted at, they probably wouldn't be introducing new characters or going in a new direction if they planning on doing this just for the money.
Also, I thought they were going in a new direction because of the negative response At World's End got. But hey ho. As long as it doesn't suck, I'm all for it.
I don't think they had much of a choice when it came to going in a new direction, thanks to how huge the budget cut was. Whether it worked in their favor or not, I'm not sure. Hopefully it did benefit them; it might have shifted their focus away from the whole CGI/special effects/visual spectacle thing, and more towards the storytelling side of things. That's my hope, anyway.
Great to know. Going tomorrow to see it in IMAX 3D.
I consider it on par with the first two films, and above 'At World's End'. I consider it a definite return to form.
Good, stay that way; you'll enjoy the movie more
I'd put Dead Man's Chest above it. It's at least as good as At World's End, but probably a little bit better since it wasn't as ridiculous.
Yeah. It's all Captain Jack weirdness and nothing far beyond that. The mermaid subplot is subpar at best and the characters never truly fleshed out.
Also the only thing they seemed to use from the Tim Powers book was the title, the fountain and Blackbeard... and the title is the only thing that they had to "pay" for... because both the fountain and Blackbeard are not protected by a copyright.
It is sort of sad because just because they wanted to loot the title we will probably NEVER see an actual adaptation of Tim Powers excellent novel.
But I did really REALLY like the movie I want that to be clear.. I am just talking about the things I think they could have improved.
that is exactly what my wife was wondering when we left the theater.. I guess we will see IF they make another one..
That's exactly what I was thinking. I'd really like to know, actually. I was hoping they'd show us what happened in a clip after the credits, but we got something else instead.
Oh yeah, if you're in no rush to leave the cinema, then stick around, because the clip after the credits is a nice little bonus.
The script's already written for number five, and number 4 has been successful as hell; I think it's a safe bet we'll see another one.
Johnny Depp did a fine job and he looks like he's having fun with the role. On that same note, I didn't find Cruz and Depp to have much chemistry. Maybe it's just me but I didn't really believe him at the end when
Overall, I'd rank it above At World's End but below Dead Man's Chest. A very fun and entertaining movie to kick off the summer. I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm actually looking forward to the fifth.
The second best thing was
The best new character was Scrum. I loved Scrum. And the boy in Blackbeard's crew, just because it reminded me of Treasure Island. Jack was used great sometimes and badly others. Angelica was not bad. The missionary was worthless. The mermaids were kind of cool. The music was great. There were plotholes, especially that gravity defying water. If it defies gravity how the hell did it get onto some leaves!? The Spanish and their goal was one of the best surprises of the film. The ending with Jack, Angelica, and Blackbeard and
Saw it in a horrid theater, so I have to rewatch it on DVD someday to find my bearings and rate it.
Oh, yeah, and the zombies were worthless and stupid and I hated them and wish they weren't even there. The voodoo aspect was so underused I could vomit.
That's an interesting way to look at it. I'm actually relieved that they didn't actually
No doubt I'll be seeing again with friends/family so I'll be able to see that scene again but reflecting back on it, I think you may be right.
That is a pretty good compliment because it was shot in 2D and made 3D after.
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Anyways, saw the movie today and liked it overall. It wasn't as good as the original but it was still ok.
I would even take mulroy and murtogg seeing as they seemed to have converted to piracy at the end of the last trilogy... That is really my biggest complaint and I am starting to sound like a broken record but they NEED to add some character actors in this thing.... That was something the writers really talked about in the last trilogy how they had all these great character actors to fill the second and third string cast.. it really make you like and want to get to know ALL the characters.