Osama Bin Laden dead!

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  • edited May 2011
    Armakuni wrote: »
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    I haven't looked back ever since I installed that, it's extremely lightweight but has all the options you need for simple things like that.
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    I think you have the wrong thread good sir.
  • edited May 2011
    Actually I think I have the right thread, only the wrong page of the thread ;)
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    omg, resize your photos already. =\

    My screen res is only 1440x900, and the default width of each post box on these forums is ~800 pixels.
    That second helicopter photo is 3008 pixels wide.
    DAISHI wrote: »
    How do you resize them?
  • edited May 2011
    Nope, he doesn't. I chastized someone earlier for posting pictures that were way too large.

    I tried Irfanfew. It works welll but I did hate the icon.
  • edited May 2011
    Yes the icon is really ugly but I think it's tolerable considering how good the program is otherwise.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited May 2011
    Okay guys, sing along now one more time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJQR7hKX1FU#t=0m38s
  • edited May 2011
    And here I was expecting his horrible singing to be stopped by a bullet to the head.
  • edited May 2011
    coolguy721 wrote: »
    he killed almost 3000 people in 2001
    Not really. He directed a whole load of people who were already willing to kill. Hatred for America is much bigger than one man. But my point was more that it wasn't likely he was going to do anything again, so surely there are more important matters than some concept of vengeance.
  • edited May 2011
    there are more important matters than some concept of vengeance.

    Speak for your self. If after all the pain hes caused people his death brings happiness to people why begrudge them?
  • edited May 2011
    *shrugs* I don't think cheering people up is all that good a reason to kill someone I guess.
  • edited May 2011
    *shrugs* I don't think cheering people up is all that good a reason to kill someone I guess.

    Master mining 9/11 is though. He deservied to die he was a monster regardless of the fact if he was harmless now or not!
  • edited May 2011
    I don't believe in revenge, but obviously it's an instinct everyone feels.

    However I do think it's something worth trying to fight, which is why I'm completely against criminals suffering in prison and things like that... I don't think it has proven to be that much of a deterrent anyway, and that's the only thing that could make it seem very slightly reasonable... but even then I'd be against it. I'm glad we have very high standard prisons here in Norway.

    Some people are damaged and it's not our job to inflict suffering, rather it is protecting society from their dangerous behaviour.
  • edited May 2011
    Holy Shit!!!!
    Now that the [sarcasm] devil incarnate [/sarcasm] is dead we need a new scapegoat!!11
    For now I'm taking bets on Kim Jong Il, Mahmud Ahmadinedschad and Chinese Communists.
    Awww, I was really wondering if we would see the bushs and his family at the funeral but he might be shark chow by now.
  • edited May 2011
    Kim Jong Il will be dead soon enough anyway it seems.

    Will be interesting to see what happens when Kim Jong Un is supposed to take over... he should start looking for a successor soon as well, he looks like he might very well have a heart attack in his 30s.
  • edited May 2011
    I don't understand the skepticism about why we went forward with this or why we should celebrate our victory.

    Osama bin Laden was the leader of a militant group that directly orchestrated the deaths of thousands of people; we acquired intelligence regarding his location, then went forward to capture or kill him and he wouldn't be taken alive.

    A lot of people are feeling relief that this has been accomplished given that so much death and pain has been wrought under the leadership of this man. Don't rain on their parade.

    And certainly don't be a dick about it, sh3ldor. That's really rude.
  • edited May 2011
    I think "raining on their parade" is perfectly fine if the parade is celebrating the death of a human being. If people think it was totally necessary, then fine. The response should be regret that this had to happen.
  • edited May 2011
    I think "raining on their parade" is perfectly fine if the parade is celebrating the death of a human being.

    All this man did was spread terror pain and death I will gladly celebrate his death and nothing anyone can say will make me feel guilty or bad about that.
  • edited May 2011
    Fair enough. Many are with you.
  • edited May 2011
    What I find sad about the situation is how people can end up so broken in the first place, not so much that they disposed of him.
  • edited May 2011
    Armakuni wrote: »
    What I find sad about the situation is how people can end up so broken in the first place,

    "Broken" is just a point of view anyone can appere broken to another person.
  • edited May 2011
    I mean broken as in non-functional in human society, producing more suffering than anything else.

    Maybe a more clear cut example of someone I would call broken is a serial killer that kills people to get off... that's clearly a broken human in my opinion.
  • edited May 2011
    Armakuni wrote: »

    Maybe a more clear cut example of someone I would call broken is a serial killer that kills people to get off... that's clearly a broken human in my opinion.

    I agree with you there 100%
  • edited May 2011
    ..I'd be more worried of reprisal now.... it's not like blowing up the death star where the empire just gives up. Sorry, so much of the star wars crap, that its on the brain now.
  • edited May 2011
    Johro wrote: »
    ..I'd be more worried of reprisal now.... it's not like blowing up the death star where the empire just gives up. Sorry, so much of the star wars crap, that its on the brain now.

    They didn't give up after the first Death Star explosion maybe its like that.
  • edited May 2011
    Actually George Lucas' partner early on, Gary Kurtz, didn't like the idea of a second death star at all... which I just so happened to read in some article someone posted in some thread here :p

    But yeah - it would be pretty naive to think things will calm down substantially now just because Osama is out of the way.
  • edited May 2011
    Yes but when the first Death Star was destroyed, Governor Tarkin was killed.
    As the second one was being destroyed, the Emperor and Vader were killed.

    Granted, bin Laden isn't the only evil person in the world and probably was not the only currently significant threat left in Al Qaeda, but he was still a threat, a terrorist and a criminal.

    I imagine we're not going to just leave Al Qaeda alone and allow them to regroup. They're still a threat to us.
  • edited May 2011
    coolguy721 wrote: »
    he killed almost 3000 people in 2001
    And Bush was responsible for the deaths of a higher number of people from 2001 to the end of his term with the so called war on terror. He personally didn't kill those people, just Osama didn't kill those 3000. But both helped plot the events, and both gave the orders.

    I'm not saying that Osama was good, or that Bush was evil, but I thought i'd put it into perspective. In the eyes of the middle-east, The US is probably seen as bad as alqaeda is seen over here. Afterall, the US were a major force in forcing the collapse of a relatively stable country(Iraq, which was stable, albeit not exactly desirable) into 10 years of terror.

    Is it a good thing Osama is dead? Yes, it gives closure to the families affected. Was he the epitomy of evil? Nope. That's all down to perspective.
  • edited May 2011
    No one said bin Laden's the epitome of evil. He was evil though. That's not a matter of perspective, it's true.

    Again, I don't understand why some people are compelled to splash cold water on this news given that the news is still not even a day old. Perhaps if people were still celebrating after weeks of it happening, but the operation itself was only completed yesterday.
  • edited May 2011
    I personally am compelled to because I find the celebration of a human's death to be rather upsetting.
    But then that being said, I do not consider him to be evil, because I don't have a clue what he was about.
  • edited May 2011
    He led an organization that hi-jacked civilian planes and crashed them into civilian buildings.

    What part of that doesn't seem 'evil' to you?

    Also: I wonder how long it will be until Donald Trump tries to take credit for this somehow.
  • edited May 2011
    He also sent millions of taunting messeges to the USA over what he did.
  • edited May 2011
    Scnew wrote: »
    Also: I wonder how long it will be until Donald Trump tries to take credit for this somehow.

    Bin Laden... YER FIRED!
  • edited May 2011
    Scnew wrote: »
    He led an organization that hi-jacked civilian planes and crashed them into civilian buildings.

    What part of that doesn't seem 'evil' to you?

    The action is almost definitely immoral yes. But the man? I don't have a clue what he's gone through. And probably neither does anyone on here. I don't share his belief system. I didn't witness the 1982 Lebanon war (or indeed know anything about it until just now). I haven't lived anything even close to his life, so how can I possibly say that I would definitely not have done something similar?
  • edited May 2011
    The action is almost definitely immoral yes. But the man? I don't have a clue what he's gone through. And probably neither does anyone on here. I don't share his belief system. I didn't witness the 1982 Lebanon war (or indeed know anything about it until just now). I haven't lived anything even close to his life, so how can I possibly say that I would definitely not have done something similar?

    There is nothing that can justfiy what he has done or excuse it.
  • edited May 2011
    True. I feel the same about any mass killing.
  • edited May 2011
    Though, does that mean he had to be killed ?

    He definitely had to pay, but by killing him, there's no way to get info out of him, and he becomes a martyr for his followers ...

    And to all of you who think "yeah go team america ololol we're da best we kill people when we don't like them because we feel it's right", well, I despise you.

    If we let people decide arbitrary on what is "right", then what will be next ?

    It's only selfish... It's like how absolutely no one does anything about China because they're too important for the economy of the world ... but suddenly decide to "be heroes" as soon as they can with smaller countries ...

    The guy totally had to pay, but death is actually not even the worst thing in the world, he just stopped living you know, he's not here to regret anything.
  • edited May 2011
    I always thought that extremists in the Middle East worshiped Bin Laden cause he got away with planning 9/11, was never caught and kept taunting the West. He was their role model, someone who helped unite the extremists against West, even though he never did too much afterwards. Now that we killed him hopefully their morale will be shaken and they'll fight each other for who should take over.
  • edited May 2011
    "Now that we killed him hopefully their morale will be shaken" seems to be advocating the murder as a form of terrorism in itself.
  • edited May 2011
    Strayth wrote: »
    He definitely had to pay, but by killing him, there's no way to get info out of him, and he becomes a martyr for his followers ...

    If he was caught he would've likely gotten the death penalty anyways. Even if somehow they would've just kept him in jail he'd still be a martyr for his followers. Honestly, the end result would be the same, the only difference would be the how.
  • edited May 2011
    Strayth wrote: »
    Though, does that mean he had to be killed ?

    He definitely had to pay, but by killing him, there's no way to get info out of him, and he becomes a martyr for his followers ...

    And to all of you who think "yeah go team america ololol we're da best we kill people when we don't like them because we feel it's right", well, I despise you.

    If we let people decide arbitrary on what is "right", then what will be next ?

    It's only selfish... It's like how absolutely no one does anything about China because they're too important for the economy of the world ... but suddenly decide to "be heroes" as soon as they can with smaller countries ...

    The guy totally had to pay, but death is actually not even the worst thing in the world, he just stopped living you know, he's not here to regret anything.

    You are assuming that the team that took him out wasn't ordered to capture him alive if possible. I am certain that capture would have been preferable, but it's not always feasible.
  • edited May 2011
    I don't know where you got that. We're not going around killing and threatening innocent people intentionally. Stopping and killing a man who helped plan to kill 3 thousand isn't terrorism to me. It's justice. I can't see the point of letting him rot away in a jail for the rest of his life and worry that he could possibly escape. And I meant it shows the terrorists that no one is invincible.
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