Suggestions to improve JP graphic
I edited some picture to suggest TT some improvements about this game:
And (to balance) some good shots of the game
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And (to balance) some good shots of the game
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And, btw, better address some potential improvement while we're still in time!
I would much rather TT concentrated (as they seem to be) on improving the actual gameplay than wasting time correcting minor graphic flaws.
They could spend a fortune improving the graphics to Crysis 2 type levels, and it'll still look dated in a couple of years.
It's the gameplay that'll bring me back again and again for years to come...
What bothers me is that these problems arent even hard to fix (I'm a freelance 3D artist) so i know exactly what goes into modeling texturing and lighting. They are just simply overlooked and thrown to the side in the hope that no one notices... or perhaps just as probable, they just dont know what they're doing to begin with!
Seriously, i've seen mods for games that are more impressive than this whole game looks already, it's laughable.
Also, saying "Telltale games are about story not graphics! BLAH BLAH BLAH" This is not an excuse, in this day and age this type of quality is not acceptable.
A story probably takes about 1 to 2 months to write and finalize... What are they doing with the rest of their time? Certainly with this huge pushback they've had on the game, theres no excuse to have it looking as bad in the screens above.
There's 2 reasons i believe it got pushed back, Universal saw the final product they were going to release in April, and said no way, go back and work on it some more.
Or again Universal saw the product and didnt think it would do well on its own and decided to coinside the release of the game with the JP Blu ray, much like BTTF.
Their reason for the pushback, was just to save face.
Or another reason is the fact the game has been rushed, personally I don't want to see a rushed game!
As for the graphics?! I am so sick and tired of people like you, graphics graphics graphics, it's why video games are getting so boring! I for one am glad that telltale actually cares about a storyline and not just how it looks! Graphics are important but i'd rather enjoy playing a GAME and not a piece of art! Just because something looks good it doesn't mean it's a good game, PS1 games are blocky nowadays in comparison to a lot of bland modern games, but at least a lot of them actually have a fun factor, and interesting gameplay!
What the fact it isn't a fps, the fact it concentrates more on a storyline, and the fact it isn't a gta copy? Yeah shame isn't it :rolleyes:
For the most part it's been complete since April, as it's been stated before it's all about getting things ready and translatable from PC/Mac to 360/PS3 ports ensuring everyone will get the same experiences.
The reason why graphics are an essential part of any modern day game, is because they are there to immerse you, the better they are, the better they do that. However in this case, with the bad graphical examples above, players notice this and DETRACTS from the experience, sure the story may be fantastic (Doubtful) but if i see something that doesnt look right on screen, it's going to take the person playing OUT of the story altogether.
Do you understand how this can affect the game experience?
Yes, PS1 games nowadays can be still fun, but for me I know they're gonna look blocky because of the technical limitations there were back then and i understand that and look past such things.
Nowadays, there are obviously many more possibilities available to developers, and to have JP looking as a game being made in 2011 is just not fair. I see it as a plain-as-day cop out, with people basically not doing their jobs right.
This has nothing to do with anything, you assume because i expect decent graphics from a game I dont care about story. Therefore you ended up at the assumption that i must play mindless games like GTA. Nice one.
And i don't know why people mindlessly praise Telltale as being somesort of Master-race of writers. They're simply not that good, mediocre at best. BTTF-TG was an awful story, all around, confusing comedy with stupidity.
Personally, i'd be happy if Telltale left both of my most beloved franchises alone to begin with.
Yeah I do understand, I understand that certain dipsticks like you watch a game and point out minor things like hey did you see that, the character doesn't have a shadow under that tree, I totally can't play the rest of this game now! :rolleyes: You aren't happy unless it's an absolute perfect quality picture yawn.
Who cares if the design is a fucking year old, that's nothing! When graphics get to the point that it looks as real as the scenery you see outside in the real world, then to me it's no longer a game and just art!
Back in the days of the PS1 we never cared about the graphics and it was always more about the gameplay. Well that's where modern gaming for me has gone wrong. Suddenly it's important that when we're standing in the sea the water is crystal clear, yawn if I want to do that i'll go and stand in the sea in the real world!
Nah not just GTA4 but I was being sarcastic. I just used GTA4 as an example what with it being graphically brilliant and visually immersive, not to mention downright boring! :rolleyes:
Some of us actually enjoyed Bttf, and I haven't actually said that Telltale are a master race, I leave that to the chinese
Yeah I mean TT are already previewing the JP game with 2011 graphics so that's a serious violation
But of course, something went wrong and i lost it all. But i digress.
I'll be replying in noteform instead now.
Grow up. Name calling not needed.
I don't.
Graphical bugs when displayed for long amounts of time on screen, distract from the game.
Devs obviously see these, decide to to nothing about it.
Nothing is perfect.
I expect effort to be put into any game i decide to buy.
Graphics are a huge factor in game reviews too.
TT need to realise they cant get by on story alone.
The real world has caught up with them.
They need to step up their game to survive.
What's wrong with games looking as good as they can?
Nothing. That's what.
Don't lie. Of course people did.
Graphics back then were just as important as they are now, in reviews etc.
Crossing technical boundries in computers and consoles, achieving artistic goals, Immersing the player in more immersive, believable environments. Negative thing according to you.
'Graphically brilliant', 'Visually immersive.'
Using these two phrases to describe a game contradicts your argument.
BTTF was spot on, they had everything they needed for the story and I did notice that the graphics weren't amazing, but I understood that they didn't HAVE to be simply because of the art form you chose to make it in. I played Strong Bad on my PS3 and it was AWESOME and I thought the graphics were great with that. But once again they couldn't make him photo realistic LOL.
All in all I do think these things should be fixed so that critics and Youtubers alike don't have anything to rag on TellTale about. As for me, I'm fine with the way things are...except that egg shell...it just annoys me.
The story of Dilo seemed very interesting and disturbing. Many people criticize the game because it's just pressing buttons occasionally while watching an animated movie as they say.
However it seems to me very interesting, it is true it could be otherwise but more importantly this game is to tell an interesting story and I think it's a good way as it is doing TT.
Anyone know if it will include subtitles in Spanish of Spain?
You mean they should...spare no expense?
*waits for the groans*
After Sam & Max season 3, most of their outings have been a helluva lot more casual, and it seems like this might be a trend. With these big properties they've got to have mass appeal, which means easier games with small download sizes, and smaller sizes means that the graphics aren't a high priority (not that they've always been with TTG, but Sam & Max and Monkey Island take to the cartoonish look better than this game does). I hope the Walking Dead is a bit more hard core (I love the cell shaded look, and I hope that is an in-game screen shot floating around).
This is, of course, all based off of the most recent photos and videos of the game. i can't really be 100% sure untill I play all four episodes. But I trust that TellTale is giving us an awesome Jurassic Park game.
Don't get me wrong i picked and loved sam and max but the original was an early pixelated cartoony game so the simple graphics were spot on.
But when i bought back to the future -even through i had seen many screenshots i ....was very disappointed about the game....I want to be honest....I loved the story and i loved their puzzles (especially with the helpfull hint system) and the voice overs were fantastic(i could not believe that marty was not voiced by m j fox) and the music was spot on...But the graphics....Were abysmal....Doc was horrible,einstain didn't even have fur...he was textured with a fur texture...Even the coolest car of all time was simplified ....
I just hope telltale developers realize that graphics are important too and improve them.
They don't have the best graphics but just because it doesn't have the same graphics as whatever game you're compairing it too doesn't automaticly make Jurassic Park's graphics abysmal.
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/011/011726/imgs_1.html
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/014/014054/imgs_1.html
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/011/011727/imgs_1.html
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/011/011735/imgs_1.html
I think we forget how far technology has come sometimes. That being said, I'm not going to claim Jurassic Park will have "good" graphics for anyone's definition of good. What I will say is that it will have better graphics than BTTF, and worse graphics than many cutting edge games released in the last few years.
I actually like reading theads like this btw. Obviously I (we) don't have the resources to go through and "fix" everything anyone mentions as looking bad. But at the very least, it's interesting to get a feel for things that stand out as looking poor to people.
Outcast here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kntwoGyCM3o&feature=related
(This was made using a voxel engine if you remember and had music composed by the moscow symphonic orchistra! )
Or check Shenmue here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLwCMNg6NGo
And remember the above are 12 years old..(both were released in 1999 if i am not mistaken)
Great ? For God's shake don't behave like a fanboy or something...If i did not like telltale's games i would not have bought and played through the new sam and max games and the back to the future games.But what was perfect for a sequal to an old cartoon adventure of the early 90's was abysmal for one of the most loved trilogy's of our time.I liked a lot in that game but i hated the graphics .
And now they are going to do the same with jurassic park.I bet they have some great gameplay/puzzle ideas for the game but from what i have seen i was shocked.Because it looks less horrible and less hideous then back to the future that DOES not make it ok for telltale to release a "copy and paste" graphically game.When i see polygonal eggs,no shadows,horrible transparency and missing reflection/retraction effects,Super low textures and Super low models for everything what the hell do you expect me to say ?
Bravo ?
Let's clear something,telltale was founded by ex looking glass devs if i am not mistaken and i consider them close to gods of gaming.I can understand that initially they did not have the budget and funds to make a game with good graphics that's why the stayed to cartoon like games like sam and max,monkey island and bone out of bonevile.But when you move to some iconic movies like back to the future and jurassic park you should and you must do better graphics.
I really think you all forget why we loved those movies in the begining.When i saw jurassic park first time at the theater i was mesmerised.Since then very few movies have done that for me(well stargate ,the mummie and matrix were some to be honest...).It was the first movie i saw where dinosaurs looked like..real animals and not like puppets,i still remember the scene with the glass of water that starts vibrating as the t-rex comes close...
When i have really complex and deep games like bioshock 1/2,mass effect 1/2,oblivion,fallout 3 and 4,gothic 4,far cry 2,stalker clear sky and call of prypiat,deus ex hr,crysis 1 etc..i do expect something better than the mess they call a game now...
But really, what's with the whole graphics thing anyway. Are you really trying to tell me that Jurassic Park: The Game will not be fun because the graphics don't look good to you? That's a bunch of bull if you ask me.