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  • edited August 2011
    They are in the Brochure of the park.
  • edited August 2011
    Let us not forget that some animals existed that weren't on InGen's original list. Spinosaurus, anyone?
  • edited August 2011
    Troodon might not be the list of Jurassic Park but this does not mean it could not be in that jurrassic park Europe.
    then you remember that the real star of Jurassic Park 3 was to be the Baryonyx propio but then they dropped for spinosauro for his blow up
  • edited August 2011
    the inclusion of troodon and tylosaurus contradict nothing. we have multiple sources in both the novel and the film providing evidence for fifteen dinosaur species inhabiting jurassic park, but, in both the novel and film universes, we know ingen was working on additional species. maybe fifteen species were completed, while others were not. remember, the animals in jurassic park are clones. in the novel, each species is described as having a version number, like software, to keep track of its development. maybe troodon, like other animals that were not quite ready for a public reveal, is in beta release. also, to my knowledge, only thirteen of the fifteen species in the film were ever confirmed. on a side note, in 1993, i saw the embryo cold-storage tube prop as part of a traveling jurassic park exhibit. i often regret not having made a point of looking for the two remaining species on the prop.
  • edited August 2011
    the inclusion of troodon and tylosaurus contradict nothing. we have multiple sources in both the novel and the film providing evidence for fifteen dinosaur species inhabiting jurassic park, but, in both the novel and film universes, we know ingen was working on additional species. maybe fifteen species were completed, while others were not. remember, the animals in jurassic park are clones. in the novel, each species is described as having a version number, like software, to keep track of its development. maybe troodon, like other animals that were not quite ready for a public reveal, is in beta release. also, to my knowledge, only thirteen of the fifteen species in the film were ever confirmed. on a side note, in 1993, i saw the embryo cold-storage tube prop as part of a traveling jurassic park exhibit. i often regret not having made a point of looking for the two remaining species on the prop.

    The Barbasol can only had room for 10-12 embryos. Thats been established before so I don't know if it would have helped confirm the 15 total species.
  • edited August 2011
    the inclusion of troodon and tylosaurus contradict nothing. we have multiple sources in both the novel and the film providing evidence for fifteen dinosaur species inhabiting jurassic park, but, in both the novel and film universes, we know ingen was working on additional species. maybe fifteen species were completed, while others were not. remember, the animals in jurassic park are clones. in the novel, each species is described as having a version number, like software, to keep track of its development. maybe troodon, like other animals that were not quite ready for a public reveal, is in beta release. also, to my knowledge, only thirteen of the fifteen species in the film were ever confirmed. on a side note, in 1993, i saw the embryo cold-storage tube prop as part of a traveling jurassic park exhibit. i often regret not having made a point of looking for the two remaining species on the prop.

    That exhibit was so cool, I wish I would have taken pictures and documented everything too! Alas, I was just running around in awe of everything. I saw it in Minneapolis and they had a full-size JP rex surrounded by fences, it was amazing.
  • edited August 2011
    mannyguy1 wrote: »
    Also worth noting is that telltale might decide not to acknowledge Baryonyx and Segisaurus as they have never really been confirmed as 100% canon.
    That's not very logical. They introduced Herrerasaurus even though it was one of the brochure dinosaurs with the least amount of evidence confirming it's existence. IMO, because they introduced Herrerasaurus that pretty much confirms that the rest of the dinosaurs are on the island, alive and well.
  • edited August 2011
    I thought Troodon was confirmed as NOT being on the Genus List, and is an animal secretly released on the island for reasons yet be explained. Or was that just a rumor?

    Anyway, as for the Tylosaurus (or Mosasaurus), it is completely within reason for it to be one of the 15 species.

    If we look at the brochure, assuming Telltale IS using the brochure and Herrerasaurus isn't a coincidence, we have 12 of the 15 species:

    Tyrannosaurus
    Baryonyx
    Metriacanthosaurus
    Herrerasaurus
    Proceratosaurus
    Velociraptor
    Dilophosaurus
    Segisaurus
    Brachiosaurus
    Triceratops
    Parasaurolophus
    Gallimimus

    As for the 13th and 14th species, we have Stegosaurus (as seen in the Embryo Cold Storage Room), and a pterosaur (as heard by John Hammond, via intercom, during the Evaluation Group's dinner in the VIP Room.). This pterosaur is most likely Pteranodon.

    So that's a total of 14 species. As for the 15th specieis, there is also the popular Compsognathus theory, but while well supported, it isn't exactly confirmed.

    Therefore, until we are met with further canon-related complications, the theory of Tylosaurus|Mosasaurus being the actual 15th species is totally plausible, even likely.

    In my opinion, however, I am very glad Telltale included a sea-reptile. It's a refreshing inclusion to this Genus List, which already includes a plethora of theropods.

    (Not to say I wouldn't be glad to see each and EVERY species gloriously included in the game, Telltale, if you're watching.) ;)

    Besides, Segisaurus can easily replace the Compy, they're even similar is body-shape.
  • edited August 2011
    That's not very logical. They introduced Herrerasaurus even though it was one of the brochure dinosaurs with the least amount of evidence confirming it's existence. IMO, because they introduced Herrerasaurus that pretty much confirms that the rest of the dinosaurs are on the island, alive and well.

    I disagree. You're making an assumption. I'm not saying they won't acknowledge the other brochure dinos, I'm saying they can chose not to because the brochure has never been CONFIRMED movie cannon although evidence does supoort it. Plus a huge part of the reason they included Herrerasaurus was because of of the telltale employee who worked on the game and his last name is Herrera(they even said this in another thread). I can almost bet that if it werent for that, they might have not even included Herrerasaurus as there are more unique dinosaurs to add to the JP pool...but to each his own...
  • edited August 2011
    mannyguy1 wrote: »
    I disagree. You're making an assumption. I'm not saying they won't acknowledge the other brochure dinos, I'm saying they can chose not to because the brochure has never been CONFIRMED movie cannon although evidence does supoort it. Plus a huge part of the reason they included Herrerasaurus was because of of the telltale employee who worked on the game and his last name is Herrera(they even said this in another thread). I can almost bet that if it werent for that, they might have not even included Herrerasaurus as there are more unique dinosaurs to add to the JP pool...but to each his own...
    Oh! Okay i wasn't understanding your point very well. Well i do believe that. Telltale could easily just skip over the brochure and not be in the wrong, true, but honestly that would just be... not very good for morale.. idk i just think that even if they have something that's not confirmed they should regard it with respect since most of the jp community believes it is canon. And yeah, that's most definately why they chose to focus on Herrerasaurus... i just hope Telltale is really taking everything they're doing into account, since this is officially what happened after the movie. And to the person two posts above.. I am hoping for a pterosaur inclusion in the game.. I'm not very positive they will put one in at this point but there is hope :) Segisaurus could replace Compsognathus for sure!! Oh and I'm sorry i just have to bring this up, but i don't agree with it at all. One of the arguments is that Apatosaurus is also on the island. Highly unlikely, but it's still an argument.
  • edited August 2011
    As much as I would like to have the brochure issue put to rest and just be confirmed cannon. The problem is lack of variety. Proceratosaurus, Segisaurus, Herrerasaurus, metriacanthosaurus, Baryonyx...the only one remotely exciting and different is Baryonyx.

    Its just hard to believe that when Ingen was breeding such awesome dinosaurs as Ankylosaurus, Ceratosaurus, Comsognathus,Pachycephalosaurus etc...they would chose to display creatures that are very similar to one another in Jurassic Park

    We already have the raptors, dilophosaur, troodon, and herrerasaurus in the game, not to mention the T-rex. Add a couple of more brochure dinos and then it would get really repetative and unoriginal. Telltale would have to give these dinosaurs very unique personalities and traits to pull it off and even then they're all theropods.

    I'm all for confirming them as canon through the game, but to give them the spotlight in a sequence like they're doing with the Herrerasaurs....I'd rather they focus on more exciting creatures like the Hervivores confirmed to be in Nublar, the Troodon, Tylosaurus, maybe even the Pteranodon which has always been hypthesized to be on the island. And there's pleny of evidence to support that claim.
  • edited September 2011
    http://www.jplegacy.org/encyc/debates/highlight.JPG

    This mural is from The Lost World in the communications center, depicting the park on Isla Nublar. Perhaps an aviary with a group of pteranodon was intended to be in the park as well. The mentioning of flying dinosaurs in the first movie only supports this cause.
  • edited September 2011
    Pteranodon even if there are there are 2 races, the first is the original of the Pteranodon Sternbergi spielberg has wavy and not straight ridge you can see it in the cards if the hunters and trap animals, spielberg, then abandoned the project and chose the Pteranodon longiceps one with the crest straight and you see in the movies.
    Pteranodon longiceps in but there are 2 different types, the first is the end of the lost world very well done, no teeth, beak longer, is not evil or aggressive, and that the only flaw rests in the branch as a bird .
    Pteranodon Ioniceps the other is to Jurassic Park 3, which I find only defects beak with teeth, takes people with no legs and the beak, carnivore, aggressive, has a smaller beak.
    now if telltale places in the game which put the Pteranodon? why in the world lost the Pteranodon is free? because in Jurassic Park 3 are closed in a cage? there are 2 races of the Pteranodon? or there or just 1? because in one race there are so many differences? these are the questions you must answer if it puts the telltale Pteranodon.
  • edited September 2011
    crochunter wrote: »
    Pteranodon even if there are there are 2 races, the first is the original of the Pteranodon Sternbergi spielberg has wavy and not straight ridge you can see it in the cards if the hunters and trap animals, spielberg, then abandoned the project and chose the Pteranodon longiceps one with the crest straight and you see in the movies.
    Pteranodon longiceps in but there are 2 different types, the first is the end of the lost world very well done, no teeth, beak longer, is not evil or aggressive, and that the only flaw rests in the branch as a bird .
    Pteranodon Ioniceps the other is to Jurassic Park 3, which I find only defects beak with teeth, takes people with no legs and the beak, carnivore, aggressive, has a smaller beak.
    now if telltale places in the game which put the Pteranodon? why in the world lost the Pteranodon is free? because in Jurassic Park 3 are closed in a cage? there are 2 races of the Pteranodon? or there or just 1? because in one race there are so many differences? these are the questions you must answer if it puts the telltale Pteranodon.
    The Lost world Pteranodon is the one that would be considered for Jurassic Park, if at all, since it would be less aggressive. Remember that plans were made for these Pteranodon to be territorial in two abandoned concepts in TLW movie so it isn't completely harmless. In fact in all jurassic park canon all of the pterosaurs are vicious. And besides, the JP3 Pteranodon was most likely a failed experiment which is why they were locked up in the first place.
  • edited September 2011
    I think that right even Pteranodon lost world are the ones who had to go in the park, and those genetic errors are jurassick Park 3.
    if I remember the scene of the VIP room I have not heard of pterosaurs, but I remember that the chef has cooked fish, perhaps the problem was that a Pteranodon had smelled the fish and both went into the kitchen.
    aggression for the character we have no evidence that the Pteranodon were aggressive, but it is also true that birds such as ducks, roosters, turkeys , swans, peacocks and pigeons are aggressive too.
    if it puts the telltale Pteranodon I hope those are the lost world and walk on the ground must be right, but has yet to put telltale Baryonyx, Metriacanthosaurus, Proceratosaurus, Stegosaurus, segisaurus, branchiosaurus and galliminus, and Telltale has only the rights of jurassic park
  • edited September 2011
    AndyCullen wrote: »
    http://www.jplegacy.org/encyc/debates/highlight.JPG

    This mural is from The Lost World in the communications center, depicting the park on Isla Nublar. Perhaps an aviary with a group of pteranodon was intended to be in the park as well. The mentioning of flying dinosaurs in the first movie only supports this cause.
    Spielberg originally wanted to recreate the aviary scene in the novel in the first movie. But due to money and time constraints the idea was cut.
  • edited October 2011
    Herrerasuarus? haha my last name is herrera sweet!
  • edited October 2011
    crochunter wrote: »
    I think that right even Pteranodon lost world are the ones who had to go in the park, and those genetic errors are jurassick Park 3.
    if I remember the scene of the VIP room I have not heard of pterosaurs, but I remember that the chef has cooked fish, perhaps the problem was that a Pteranodon had smelled the fish and both went into the kitchen.
    aggression for the character we have no evidence that the Pteranodon were aggressive, but it is also true that birds such as ducks, roosters, turkeys , swans, peacocks and pigeons are aggressive too.
    if it puts the telltale Pteranodon I hope those are the lost world and walk on the ground must be right, but has yet to put telltale Baryonyx, Metriacanthosaurus, Proceratosaurus, Stegosaurus, segisaurus, branchiosaurus and galliminus, and Telltale has only the rights of jurassic park



    Well Kevin padion is a pterosaur expert so I doubt this wasn't brought up in the meetings, He was even mentioned as a pterosaur specialist in mike everhart's book "oceans of Kansas"
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