My wife says that I should wait (for her) to buy Mass Effect 3 on my birthday, which is in May.
I know I've said I won't buy it if it's not on Steam, but truth be told I'm unsure when it will and I don't think I want to have to wait years for it to do so.
If it's not on Steam, all my money goes to Diablo III (Yes, I know it's not on Steam either but I'm looking forward to it more). That's just how things are, I guess. Besides, I still need to finish (and start) my perfect run-throughs of the first two.
I know I've said I won't buy it if it's not on Steam, but truth be told I'm unsure when it will and I don't think I want to have to wait years for it to do so.
It might never be on Steam. I don't care. I can wait forever or not play the game at all.
German reviews of ME3 are... well... suspiciously favorable. I was never a fan of the conspiracy theory that reviews could be "bought". I don't think that's how journalism works, and I'm almost an insider.
However, having a bulk of well-paid ME3 advertisements on your website... well, a man could somehow feel an obligation. I've read one review that has some very prominent and valid points of critique but still arrives at a whopping 90%. But, hey, it could still just be fanboy reviewers. And fanboy journalist beats bought journalist hands down.
I know I've said I won't buy it if it's not on Steam, but truth be told I'm unsure when it will and I don't think I want to have to wait years for it to do so.
The way I see it, it's bad news for Steam users here. Of course, €A would make more money with an additional Steam release - but they have made abundantly clear that they're trying to push their Origin crap through whatever the cost (for the customer). Origin can't score with better prices or functionality, and it certainly has dropped the ball from teh heavens to hell concerning customer privacy, so the only thing that can still advertise Origin is game exclusivity. €A's marketing would rather commit collective suicide than put ME3 on Steam this year, I fear, because Origin would have immediately failed.
Be wary of day one reviews. They are generally horribly inflated.
Well, i guess it depends on which ones you read. From what i've read and seen so far i doubt that it's a bad game. It more seems to be a very good one if you can enjoy the universe, which i sadly can't. But i still would be interested in certain aspects of the game, so i might just watch a friend playing it a bit.
Nothing new, sounds like the standard procedure, buy game, install crack.
This.
tbh, I've considered this as what should be standard operating procedure for games that have persistent-online-DRM. Granted, I have not purchased one yet that has required me to do so, but if it came to it, I would do so without feeling guilty about it. After all, I used to crack games all the time that required me to insert the disc during play. I hate that.
For you mods, it isn't piracy. It might be going against whatever section of the DMCA, but I don't care.
In the end of the day, publishers and devs need to realise that backstabbing the people that are actually paying for your goods is just counter-productive.
If anything restrictive DRM just makes people act in the opposite way then they seem to realise.
It makes people NOT buy stuff they might want, makes pirates even more determined to crack it, gives the company a bad PR image, and it makes the people who do buy it more aware of the illegal options available to improve their product.
(I remember I learned about cracks after getting irritated I had to put the disc in my drive all the time for one game, even though it installed all the files off the disc and had a CD key. Just googled the game's name and "no cd disk" and lo behold the answer was there)
Companies need to be more like GOG. Take up the philosophies of fair pricing, additional exclusive content (like OSTs and extra ready bits that people might have missed), and customer orientated service design.
Why are indies are doing so well?
Its simple. They are getting their games out there with agressive relevant marketing practices (indie bundles, steam sales, redditing, direct feedback ,kickstarter ect.), and making them easy to install and play with little issue.
(Focus on a qualitative experience and innovation have a lot to do with it as well, but if these indie guys didn't get their product out there, then no-one would buy it, play it, and spread good reputation via word of mouth and online media)
I installed the first DLC on Mass Effect 3, now the game won't load my saves in offline mode any more whatever I do ("couldn't verify")! €A better provide a solution to this bullshit RIGHT NOW.
I installed the first DLC on Mass Effect 3, now the game won't load my saves in offline mode any more whatever I do ("couldn't verify")! €A better provide a solution to this bullshit RIGHT NOW.
Though I don't really condone piracy and related activities, just install the crack and it will work without issues. You can get rid of Origin too after doing so.
In the end of the day, publishers and devs need to realise that backstabbing the people that are actually paying for your goods is just counter-productive.
I recall the president of EA saying in an interview that not having DRM on a game was the equivalent on not having a lock on the front door of your house. This analogy would only be valid if the lock were ridiculously complex and occasionally failed to open with a proper key, while a ground floor window was left wide open.
I installed the first DLC on Mass Effect 3, now the game won't load my saves in offline mode any more whatever I do ("couldn't verify")! €A better provide a solution to this bullshit RIGHT NOW.
I guess you have to go online with the game at least once. Welcome to the OriginExperience enjoy your trip.
It needs you to veryfy that you own the DLC because anybody could install it with the file. I could go on and download all the ME2 & 3 DLC right now but I would have to verify ownership after installing (the ones for ME2).
I guess you have to go online with the game at least once.
Well OF COURSE you have to. That was the expected part.
In this case, Origin repeatedly wants this confirmation, which was very odd. Yesterday it started without the confirmation after I restarted my computer. But today it does the same shit. I'm starting to get... nicely irate. I'll have that Amazon review up before €A knows what hit it.
I bought Jade Empire (along with two other games to make the 3-for-£10 offer) and then promptly left them on the bus and lost them. I was a sad panda that day.
I bought Jade Empire (along with two other games to make the 3-for-£10 offer) and then promptly left them on the bus and lost them. I was a sad panda that day.
See that's why you buy games on Steam. (Almost) as cheap and you cannot forget them in the bus.
Well, retail almost always wins vs. digital distribution for anything but new releases. Example: AC: Brotherhood is still £29.99 on Steam... on Amazon? £7.99. It's more a matter of convenience than price point.
Oh, and Jade Empire is good. I don't love the combat, but the setting is pretty awesome.
Just don't complain on their forums about it with an account that has games on it.
I did ask a simple question about it on their forums - first post ever. There was never an answer, not even from the community, so I won't even bother to post there again. Me likes these forums bettah.
I have loaded a game from before the DLC install. Now offline mode works again, but the additional team member which I rescued yesterday night is gone of course. Paid for the DLC, won't use it, thanks EA. This just isn't a matter of installing cracks (and I'd really ask you not to discuss the practice here), this is a matter of getting the software to run properly as provided by the manufacturer. Obviously, it is not intended to, and I don't care whether this is just a bug or done on purpose ("Offline mode won't work any more if any DLCs are installed" seems more extreme than I think even EA wants their EULA to sound at the time).
I'll complete ME3 like this, exactly like EA wants the experience to be, and I hope that in the immediate future, my verbal powers can cost this company at least a three-digit number of customers.
Problem is: This DLC is essential to the story. And it was planned for the final release --> files are on the disc.
They just cut it out so they can sell the CE or make more money right on release. Enjoy.
I'll complete ME3 like this, exactly like EA wants the experience to be, and I hope that in the immediate future, my verbal powers can cost this company at least a three-digit number of customers.
I don't think you know what EA wants the experience to be. They want to control you, they want you to be online. They want your soul.
Also did you play the DLC in ME2 because that was just the same (or is now).
This also kind of puts me off ME3 a little as well.
Capcom have done something worse though. For Streetfighter X Tekken they have ALL the DLC characters, ON THE DISC.
(Even the 360 version has the DLC characters from the other version as well!)
Even worse, they aren't releasing them till the Vita version is out in Fall.
I downloaded Origin earlier and tinkered for a bit. Long story short: A step in the right direction, but definitely moving the other foot to the left a few feet.
The fact if you have a key for any EA game available on Origin and it might not register is horrible, and an instant awful thing. The layout is, to be frank, not very well done, with regards to the storefront - the organization could use a lot more work.
What was good - the games library itself. The whopping 2 games I installed both worked fine, although ME2 ran weird through both Steam and Origin, but that is besides the point. I also really liked how it asked me whether my key for my Standard edition of Bad Company 2 was a limited edition code. It's a bit bare-bones, by my estimations only around 70% ready, and in my opinion it's horrible that they're making people use a beta version of a product to play their games (Steam did the same thing, sadly).
It just doesn't work, and I can't put my finger on why. It might be the complete lack of games in the Store, which is incredibly irritating but it's clearly because EA owns Origin.
Should another third party service to rival Steam show up that isn't a major games publisher that scares other publishers away from launching on their service, I'd welcome it with open arms. I'd just hope it functions a bit better then Origin. I won't be using the service, at all really. It's a bit useless right now, whilst I've still got access to all my games anyway through Steam or other places. Unless some brave soul decides I should get ME3, I won't be opening the application again. I do insist it isn't because it's competing with Steam - I'd welcome competition with open arms, but it's failing to compete with Steam in any aspects of quality whatsoever.
it also worked for other classic games for me. They are registered with the EA Downloadmanager but should show up in your Origin library after that if you use the same emailadress/password on both.
I do insist it isn't because it's competing with Steam - I'd welcome competition with open arms, but it's failing to compete with Steam in any aspects of quality whatsoever.
EA definitely wins in terms of support. I got an answer to my email in about one hour (with a 15% off coupon for Origin that made me buy Pinnacle Station). And after that I tried the livechat that solved my problem in about 20 minutes. Both happened on a sunday. They work on a sunday and still answer that quickly.
The download speed is the same as Steam.
Origin takes several downers though:
- It has only a few games and most of them I am not interested in since they are EA titles, which I haven't cared about in the past and I am certainly not starting now.
- The other thing is I have 2 installation folders to configure. I installed Origin on my D-Drive and it still defaulted to installing installers & games in (2 different) folders on my C-drive.
- Also I tried the ME3 demo and even though my Origin was set to English it installed a weird version for me. English audio with German subs (I have no idea how to change that but defaulting to German subs/dialogue chices is horrible). Audio was fine but the translation made me shake my head several times. So much has been lost and choosing dialoge this way was bad because Shepard said things I didn't intend to say. But that has been a problem since ME1 even in a full EN version.
German reviews of ME3 are... well... suspiciously favorable. I was never a fan of the conspiracy theory that reviews could be "bought". I don't think that's how journalism works, and I'm almost an insider.
However, having a bulk of well-paid ME3 advertisements on your website... well, a man could somehow feel an obligation. I've read one review that has some very prominent and valid points of critique but still arrives at a whopping 90%. But, hey, it could still just be fanboy reviewers. And fanboy journalist beats bought journalist hands down.
Probably. But a little weakness doesn't hurt. Even less if you get an Origin-free console version.
The way I see it, it's bad news for Steam users here. Of course, €A would make more money with an additional Steam release - but they have made abundantly clear that they're trying to push their Origin crap through whatever the cost (for the customer). Origin can't score with better prices or functionality, and it certainly has dropped the ball from teh heavens to hell concerning customer privacy, so the only thing that can still advertise Origin is game exclusivity. €A's marketing would rather commit collective suicide than put ME3 on Steam this year, I fear, because Origin would have immediately failed.
Metacritic is really divided on mass effect 3 all of the reviewer sites give it great reviews.
But the user reviews are for the most part negative I have never seen metacritic this divided on a game before.
I think this has sparked alot of interesting theories about the gaming journalist being paid off by EA.
EA definitely wins in terms of support. I got an answer to my email in about one hour (with a 15% off coupon for Origin that made me buy Pinnacle Station). And after that I tried the livechat that solved my problem in about 20 minutes. Both happened on a sunday. They work on a sunday and still answer that quickly.
The download speed is the same as Steam.
Origin takes several downers though:
- It has only a few games and most of them I am not interested in since they are EA titles, which I haven't cared about in the past and I am certainly not starting now.
- The other thing is I have 2 installation folders to configure. I installed Origin on my D-Drive and it still defaulted to installing installers & games in (2 different) folders on my C-drive.
- Also I tried the ME3 demo and even though my Origin was set to English it installed a weird version for me. English audio with German subs (I have no idea how to change that but defaulting to German subs/dialogue chices is horrible). Audio was fine but the translation made me shake my head several times. So much has been lost and choosing dialoge this way was bad because Shepard said things I didn't intend to say. But that has been a problem since ME1 even in a full EN version.
The problem with it is it's 50% exactly like Steam, and I commend them for getting that far, but they lack any features making it anything as enjoyable as Steam. I'd compare it to PSN at the start being buggy, lacking in most communication features, and none of your friends being on it.
Having better support isn't the kind of thing to get you using the service, as it does mean they're putting money into people who are trying to make broken features work better, rather then into testing themselves.
I've installed The Sims 3 through Origin once without a problem, but I don't really like the way they are forcing you to use it in order to use certain other tools. I'm talking about the neighborhood editor. I mean, it already is a piece of whatsit, making it overly complicated and crap.
I'd rather stick to Steam for my games anyway, seeing as its layout actually is kind of clear. I also have all the games in one place. The only other service I use is Desura, but that one I mostly only use for indie games (that are only available on Desura anyway).
Haha! I was exactly the same.
That Kingdom of Alamur is tempting... oooooohhh....
Relly? I tried the demo and it got really boring even before the time limit was reached. I just played it until the end to unlock the ME3 DLC. The tutorial was okayish but exploring the world after that just felt like SP WoW.
And I hated so much about this demo. Argh! Why can't I rebiund the keys. I hate WSAD-Controls.
Relly? I tried the demo and it got really boring even before the time limit was reached. I just played it until the end to unlock the ME3 DLC. The tutorial was okayish but exploring the world after that just felt like SP WoW.
And I hated so much about this demo. Argh! Why can't I rebiund the keys. I hate WSAD-Controls.
Really? Eh. I'll just stick to Skyrim.
(I just seem to waste my dough on crap these days...)
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I know I've said I won't buy it if it's not on Steam, but truth be told I'm unsure when it will and I don't think I want to have to wait years for it to do so.
It might never be on Steam. I don't care. I can wait forever or not play the game at all.
However, having a bulk of well-paid ME3 advertisements on your website... well, a man could somehow feel an obligation. I've read one review that has some very prominent and valid points of critique but still arrives at a whopping 90%. But, hey, it could still just be fanboy reviewers. And fanboy journalist beats bought journalist hands down.
Probably. But a little weakness doesn't hurt. Even less if you get an Origin-free console version.
The way I see it, it's bad news for Steam users here. Of course, €A would make more money with an additional Steam release - but they have made abundantly clear that they're trying to push their Origin crap through whatever the cost (for the customer). Origin can't score with better prices or functionality, and it certainly has dropped the ball from teh heavens to hell concerning customer privacy, so the only thing that can still advertise Origin is game exclusivity. €A's marketing would rather commit collective suicide than put ME3 on Steam this year, I fear, because Origin would have immediately failed.
Well, i guess it depends on which ones you read. From what i've read and seen so far i doubt that it's a bad game. It more seems to be a very good one if you can enjoy the universe, which i sadly can't. But i still would be interested in certain aspects of the game, so i might just watch a friend playing it a bit.
tbh, I've considered this as what should be standard operating procedure for games that have persistent-online-DRM. Granted, I have not purchased one yet that has required me to do so, but if it came to it, I would do so without feeling guilty about it. After all, I used to crack games all the time that required me to insert the disc during play. I hate that.
For you mods, it isn't piracy. It might be going against whatever section of the DMCA, but I don't care.
If anything restrictive DRM just makes people act in the opposite way then they seem to realise.
It makes people NOT buy stuff they might want, makes pirates even more determined to crack it, gives the company a bad PR image, and it makes the people who do buy it more aware of the illegal options available to improve their product.
(I remember I learned about cracks after getting irritated I had to put the disc in my drive all the time for one game, even though it installed all the files off the disc and had a CD key. Just googled the game's name and "no cd disk" and lo behold the answer was there)
Companies need to be more like GOG. Take up the philosophies of fair pricing, additional exclusive content (like OSTs and extra ready bits that people might have missed), and customer orientated service design.
Why are indies are doing so well?
Its simple. They are getting their games out there with agressive relevant marketing practices (indie bundles, steam sales, redditing, direct feedback ,kickstarter ect.), and making them easy to install and play with little issue.
(Focus on a qualitative experience and innovation have a lot to do with it as well, but if these indie guys didn't get their product out there, then no-one would buy it, play it, and spread good reputation via word of mouth and online media)
And I probably won't have my game delivered until monday next week, this saturday if I'm very lucky.
I have to avoid them spoilers... ARGH. Guess that means I'll have to try and finish Amalur over this weekend.
Though I don't really condone piracy and related activities, just install the crack and it will work without issues. You can get rid of Origin too after doing so.
I recall the president of EA saying in an interview that not having DRM on a game was the equivalent on not having a lock on the front door of your house. This analogy would only be valid if the lock were ridiculously complex and occasionally failed to open with a proper key, while a ground floor window was left wide open.
I guess you have to go online with the game at least once. Welcome to the OriginExperience enjoy your trip.
It needs you to veryfy that you own the DLC because anybody could install it with the file. I could go on and download all the ME2 & 3 DLC right now but I would have to verify ownership after installing (the ones for ME2).
Well OF COURSE you have to. That was the expected part.
In this case, Origin repeatedly wants this confirmation, which was very odd. Yesterday it started without the confirmation after I restarted my computer. But today it does the same shit. I'm starting to get... nicely irate. I'll have that Amazon review up before €A knows what hit it.
Is it good?
Yes. Yes it is.
My copy arrived early
GOTTA PLAY IT
See that's why you buy games on Steam. (Almost) as cheap and you cannot forget them in the bus.
Retail - £3.33 (3-for-£10).
Reatil wins.
Oh, and Jade Empire is good. I don't love the combat, but the setting is pretty awesome.
Well you compare normal Steam prices to Sale prices in Retail. That's unfair. Let's say 75%off on Steam and Steam wins.:p
I did ask a simple question about it on their forums - first post ever. There was never an answer, not even from the community, so I won't even bother to post there again. Me likes these forums bettah.
I have loaded a game from before the DLC install. Now offline mode works again, but the additional team member which I rescued yesterday night is gone of course. Paid for the DLC, won't use it, thanks EA. This just isn't a matter of installing cracks (and I'd really ask you not to discuss the practice here), this is a matter of getting the software to run properly as provided by the manufacturer. Obviously, it is not intended to, and I don't care whether this is just a bug or done on purpose ("Offline mode won't work any more if any DLCs are installed" seems more extreme than I think even EA wants their EULA to sound at the time).
I'll complete ME3 like this, exactly like EA wants the experience to be, and I hope that in the immediate future, my verbal powers can cost this company at least a three-digit number of customers.
They just cut it out so they can sell the CE or make more money right on release. Enjoy.
I don't think you know what EA wants the experience to be. They want to control you, they want you to be online. They want your soul.
Also did you play the DLC in ME2 because that was just the same (or is now).
Capcom have done something worse though. For Streetfighter X Tekken they have ALL the DLC characters, ON THE DISC.
(Even the 360 version has the DLC characters from the other version as well!)
Even worse, they aren't releasing them till the Vita version is out in Fall.
The fact if you have a key for any EA game available on Origin and it might not register is horrible, and an instant awful thing. The layout is, to be frank, not very well done, with regards to the storefront - the organization could use a lot more work.
What was good - the games library itself. The whopping 2 games I installed both worked fine, although ME2 ran weird through both Steam and Origin, but that is besides the point. I also really liked how it asked me whether my key for my Standard edition of Bad Company 2 was a limited edition code. It's a bit bare-bones, by my estimations only around 70% ready, and in my opinion it's horrible that they're making people use a beta version of a product to play their games (Steam did the same thing, sadly).
It just doesn't work, and I can't put my finger on why. It might be the complete lack of games in the Store, which is incredibly irritating but it's clearly because EA owns Origin.
Should another third party service to rival Steam show up that isn't a major games publisher that scares other publishers away from launching on their service, I'd welcome it with open arms. I'd just hope it functions a bit better then Origin. I won't be using the service, at all really. It's a bit useless right now, whilst I've still got access to all my games anyway through Steam or other places. Unless some brave soul decides I should get ME3, I won't be opening the application again. I do insist it isn't because it's competing with Steam - I'd welcome competition with open arms, but it's failing to compete with Steam in any aspects of quality whatsoever.
Try this:
it also worked for other classic games for me. They are registered with the EA Downloadmanager but should show up in your Origin library after that if you use the same emailadress/password on both.
EA definitely wins in terms of support. I got an answer to my email in about one hour (with a 15% off coupon for Origin that made me buy Pinnacle Station). And after that I tried the livechat that solved my problem in about 20 minutes. Both happened on a sunday. They work on a sunday and still answer that quickly.
The download speed is the same as Steam.
Origin takes several downers though:
- It has only a few games and most of them I am not interested in since they are EA titles, which I haven't cared about in the past and I am certainly not starting now.
- The other thing is I have 2 installation folders to configure. I installed Origin on my D-Drive and it still defaulted to installing installers & games in (2 different) folders on my C-drive.
- Also I tried the ME3 demo and even though my Origin was set to English it installed a weird version for me. English audio with German subs (I have no idea how to change that but defaulting to German subs/dialogue chices is horrible). Audio was fine but the translation made me shake my head several times. So much has been lost and choosing dialoge this way was bad because Shepard said things I didn't intend to say. But that has been a problem since ME1 even in a full EN version.
Metacritic is really divided on mass effect 3 all of the reviewer sites give it great reviews.
But the user reviews are for the most part negative I have never seen metacritic this divided on a game before.
I think this has sparked alot of interesting theories about the gaming journalist being paid off by EA.
Umm, MW3?
Damn forgot about that one
The problem with it is it's 50% exactly like Steam, and I commend them for getting that far, but they lack any features making it anything as enjoyable as Steam. I'd compare it to PSN at the start being buggy, lacking in most communication features, and none of your friends being on it.
Having better support isn't the kind of thing to get you using the service, as it does mean they're putting money into people who are trying to make broken features work better, rather then into testing themselves.
I'd rather stick to Steam for my games anyway, seeing as its layout actually is kind of clear. I also have all the games in one place. The only other service I use is Desura, but that one I mostly only use for indie games (that are only available on Desura anyway).
Noticable discounts include Battlefield 3 for £19.99, FIFA 12 for £14.99 and Kingdoms of Amalur for £17.50.
Edit: Arkham City is £12.99
Haha! I was exactly the same.
That Kingdom of Alamur is tempting... oooooohhh....
(But no! Must resist EA! Origin is only for games I rarely play like Sims 3)
Relly? I tried the demo and it got really boring even before the time limit was reached. I just played it until the end to unlock the ME3 DLC. The tutorial was okayish but exploring the world after that just felt like SP WoW.
And I hated so much about this demo. Argh! Why can't I rebiund the keys. I hate WSAD-Controls.
Really? Eh. I'll just stick to Skyrim.
(I just seem to waste my dough on crap these days...)
at least try the demo on Steam.
-.-
stupid people. At least TTG isn't like this.
I'm fairly sure that's part of Telltale's TOS, too. It should be, if it's not, as being rude to anyone should be forbidden.