Hershel
Honest: Because it's hard for someone to trust you when they discover that you have been lying to them (also hershel in the comic was pretty bad ass :P)
Shawn or Duck
Duck: Shawn leg was stuck because of the tractor, so i though i help duck first than put the tractor in reverse so Shawn would be able to break free, but he didn't make it. (sorry for the bad English)
Irene
Gave the gun: Because it was the humane thing to do. Once you're bitten there isn't a turning back. Letting her suffer and slowly dying isn't moral.
Doug or Carley
Carley: Because she was attractive (petty reason i know (-_-")) but also because she got a gun and was good with it, while i thought that doug was out of shape and he didn't seem that have any martial skills.
Hershel
I told Hershel the truth because chances are it will come out one way or another, and it's best to not have lied.
Shawn or Duck
Shawn 'cause Duck's the one that ran over him in the first place.
Kenney
Like everyone else, I sided with Kenney. Larry should get thrown to the walkers. Just saying.
Irene
I gave her the gun because that's what I would have wanted.
Though on the subject of that choice, I got really pissed at Glen's reaction to it. Would he have rather she died from a torturous fever and then come back to literally bite him in the ass?
Doug or Carley?
I went with the unpopular choice here and chose Doug. Why? Because Carley could work a simple radio -_- First, she tries turning it on while there are no batteries in it. Then she says she "Wouldn't know what to look for" when it comes to searching for batteries. THEN she puts them in the wrong way. Pretty soon she'll be holding her gun backwards and shooting herself in the head. Also, she even said that Doug had saved her earlier, ergo, we know that Doug doesn't panic and run away in stressful situations, he will help. Plus, it was thanks to Doug's electronic skills that we were able to distract the walkers long enough to get the keys from Lee's brother. Who knows what else he can do?
And my list is:
1. Clementine (Obviously...)
2. Kenney (He has a boat. Need I say more? Plus he saved Lee from the walker at the end of the episode)
3. Doug/Carley (As I said, his electronic skills and bravery will be useful. Carley because she has good aim and seems trustworthy enough...*for now*)
4. Duck (save the kid, save the world (by getting Kenney to let me use his boat XD))
5. Katjaa (To keep Kenney happy)
I didn't put Lilly on there because we already know she lives because of the comics. And Larry doesn't deserve to be up there.
Was honest to Hershel. My Lee's honest. I chose neither but was probably leaning towards the kid because well he is a kid. Me and Kenny were cool. I liked him. I chose Carley because she saved me. But I've been feeling bad about Doug...
Daytime travel seemed like a no-brainer. The only thing worse than running across a horde of flesh-eating zombies is running across hordes of flesh-eating zombies that you can't see.
Hershel
Honesty.
Lee struck me as a guilt-ridden but honest type of guy so I was honest with Hershel. I was honest about Lee's past as much as possible with everyone actually. I'd rather not have Lee's past railroaded by the plot and allow people to leverage it over him. Poor guy suffered enough. Hell, everyone's suffered enough to survive through a Zombocalypse.
Shawn or Duck
Duck (though tried for both).
I liked Kenny and wanted to protect his family. Paternal instincts kicked in as well to save the kid...no matter how much he quacks.
Kenney or Larry Argument
Larry (unintentionally)
I actually tried to play peacemaker on this one and didn't side with anyone until my hand was forced. Strangely enough, Lee getting in Larry's face and giving a "I'll beat that ass!" speech that would've made King Leonidas proud equaled me siding with Larry. Thanks Telltale!
Larry: This is madness! The kid's been bitten!
Lee: Madness? *dramatic pause as Lee looks to Clementine*
*Clementine gives a thumbs-up*
Lee: This...is...DRUGSTORE!!! *legkick's Larry through the boarded window out into the street*
*Zombies nom nom a bewildered Larry*
Irene
Did not give gun.
I chose not to give Irene the gun because she was obviously deteriorating emotionally and physically and I didn't want to jeopardize the safety of Carley and Glen (which ironically, is exactly what happened). Plus, if my time in Cub Scouts taught me anything it's "never give a gun to a psycho zombie lady".
Doug or Carley?
Carley (though again tried for both).
This one was pretty easy. Carley all the way. With better character development and a headshot count to rival a Call of Duty leaderboard, Doug was doomed to become an all you can eat zombie feast. I hope they choke on his sandals. Nice try Telltale in attempting to squeeze in a little empathy for Doug as he wrestled the door shut with Lee. Too bad my response was "Shut up, Doug!"
If that scene was a Jordan vs Bird commercial circa late-90's Lee would've grabbed the purse, thrown it at the zombies clutching Doug (freeing him), then ricocheting off a zombie head to Carley with enough time for her to get to the ammo clip. High-fives and gatorade showers would've followed. Possibly a Big Mac.
I chose to go in the day (seemed safer). Although reading now that I could have met a police officer that would make for some interesting events later on. I'm surprised more people didn't talk about this one.
I chose to save duck. I hate the kid, he's very annoying, but you gotta save the kid. Plus I hated Herschel.
I didn't lie to Herschel, but he still treated me like crap and was suspicious the whole time.
I was trying to be diplomatic in the situation between Larry and Kenny and I thought when I said about negotiating I thought we were negotiating with Larry but it said I sided with him, which wasn't what I was trying to do. I was just trying to calm people down and rationally look at the situation. Kenny wasn't angry with me or anything and Larry still hated me.
I didn't give the gun to Irene. I was thinking there'd be an option for me to shoot her but there wasn't. She was talking about being a Christian so I didn't think she'd kill herself since that's usually considered to be a bad thing, but she did.
I saved Carley. She needed help, she screamed that she was out of ammo and it was in her purse, so I hardly think the argument that she had a gun was valid. Yeah Doug could have been more useful and my real life brother's name is Doug but in this game Doug was just kinda boring, the whole keep a secret with Carley should make for great drama later on.
Well so this was my reasoning; reading all your answers before makes me look like an ass in comparison, but let's go with it anyway. Hershel
Didn't exactly lie, yet I tried to omit all particulars; better for people not to know this guy is a criminal if I want to make allies Shawn or Duck?
I wanted to save both so the most reasonable choice for me was to save Duck and drive the tractor behind to free his leg; I was wrong at the end, but it was worth a try Kenney or Larry Argument
It was such a petty argument for me so I chose to make Larry shut up by hitting his face so I could check on Clementine fast; the fact she was saying there was someone there looked like the priority for me. Irene
Didn't give her the gun; no way I handle an useful weapon to a zombie, even if in transiction. That could be useful later on; I would have accepted to kill her when she asked though. Doug or Carley?
This was the hardest; once again I tried to save both, but the choice didn't look so easy this time. Saving Doug seemed easier though and Carley looked to be close enough to her purse so I went with Doug, hoping he would run to her fast enough. I do realize her gun could have helped Doug from the distance, but I instinctively went to Doug when I had the choice.
Anyway I would like to know if the choices will have a deeper impact and that they will carry over significantly to next games; if we won't see the people we managed to save anymore in next episodes it would be quite a disappointment.
Hershel
I figure if people trust you they'll be more inclined to back you up. Lying would only cause things to go sideways if they find out. What's done in the past doesn't really matter any longer anyway. Or well, I didn't get the feeling that Lee could've done something terrible enough to the point where you have to lie about it. He may have killed a guy, but I believed it was partially justified or at least understandable, and I believed others would believe it. So I was as honest as could be.
Shawn or Duck
I copped out on this one. I tried saving Shawn, hit the zombie with the plank and made the fence collapse. Felt that was the shittiest thing ever and would make me a pariah to everyone and reloaded the save. Anyway, the reason I first went for Shawn was that he had skillsets that would be useful and also seemed like an alright guy. Sorry Duck, but this is about survival.
Kenny
Sided with Kenny since I found it obvious Duck had not been bit and the guy was being a total crazy asshole. I tried my best to reason with him first though.
Irene
Gave her the gun. Mercy. She was going to die anyway and wanted to spare herself and others.
Doug or Carley?
Again I prioritized who I thought would be the most important for our group's survival. Instinctively my thoughts went to the person who had just shot like eight zombies in the face, saving multiple people. I liked Doug though, so that made me a bit sad.
Before i post my experience with the first chapter I just wanted to say that I have seen the first 2 seasons of the TV show, but haven't read a single page of the comic books. And I'm gonna play the game as if I was Lee and I was a convicted murderer, who was just lucky enough to avoid getting jailed.
Day or night
Chose night, sins I'm a fugitive and I though I would have a better chance avoiding the cops if I went out at night, which was a big mistake because I ran right in to Officer Mitchel... But luckily he didn't recognize me (would have sucked if he had, and then get arrested or shot and then have failed so fast!)
Hershel
I chose sticking to the truth, or at least enough of it to keep Hershel of my back (I got a ride with a police officer and I was in a car crash. That's really close to the actual truth as possible, Hershel dossent need to know I was cuffed on the back seat, and not sitting in the passenger seat) there is no way in hell I'll go around telling people I'm a convicted felon!
And the more truth there is in a lie the easier it is to get away with it. (the best lie is wrapped closely together with the truth, at least that is my experience)
I chose the "I'm some guy" answer when Shawn asked me if Clementine was my daughter, and it payed out later when I talked to Hershel, because he believed my story.
Katja
there wasn't really any event concerned Katja but I still felt like explaining what I said to her. I made sure to cover my back and not to elaborate why I used to teach, and quickly changed subject to "who wuddent go back to how it was before" (even though i wuddent, I would be in Jail if I could)
So I'm trying to keep my crime a secret and I will pretty much go to any length to keep it that way!
Shawn or Duck?
I chose to save Shawn, the reason? Simply because I was on Hershel's farm and I wanted to gain his trust so I could stay there, and in a world where the dead walk the earth I would much rather have a friend who is the son of the owner on the farm I'm working and living on! Than having some snot nosed kid running around getting in to all sort of trouble! (I've seen what a pain in the ass Carl have been in the TV series and there is just no way he is getting me or anyone in my group killed!)
Or at least stay at the farm for a little while, though I wanted to be out of there before Rick and the rest of the people from the comic book/TV series showed up (there is just no way I'm gonna hang out with any cops that might know I'm a convicted felon)
Shawn sadly ended up dying because Kenny ran of with his son instead of helping me push the tractor away from Shawn leg!
Kenny/Hershel
I scolded Kenny In the hopes of me being able to stay at Hershel's farm, but to no avail, I still got kicked off the farm even though Hershel believed in my story (god damn it!) So not only did I get kicked of the farm, I also made Kenny dislike at me for saying he killed Shawn, or at least might have been able to save Shawn if he had just helped me push the tractor away from Shawn's leg... (fuck!, I need to make up with Kenny now! when Hershel's farm is out of the question Kenny's boat is now the best choice for my survival)
Just when I got to the drug store
I chose to stay as neutral true out the conversation, I have no reason to make any enemies! (so I ended up not backing Kenny in the start of the conversation) Or at least stay neutral until that was impossible, and then I step up saying No to Larry about kicking Duck out of the store before we know for sure if he was bitten or not. (making Kenny notice my loyalty towards him and his family, though had Duck been bitten I would have agreed with Larry...)
A little later in the drug store
Talking to Kenny and his family: Even though I am sure that Kenny killed Shawn by not helping me push the tractor of Shawn's leg I did what I could to make Kenny think he didn't think that. (still working towards gaining Kenny's friendship/loyalty so I'll get a spot on that boat) I even gave Duck one of the energy bars.
I also gave Clementine a energy bar, I need to keep her liking me! It will be much easier for people to trust me if Clementine trusts me as well! So getting her to like me is top priority, because who would expect the loving Lee, the guy who adopted and protected the poor little orfened Clementine, of being a convicted murderer? I have also made sure to spreed the information about Clementine's dead parents to all the people I could to show what good person I am, taking care of Clementine and all.
I also made sure not to tell Clementine about my secret, I just said the guy I killed was a walker, I just hope that won't come around biting me in the ass, Because I would hate having to kill Clementine, she is the perfect way to make me seem trustworthy to any stranger I might come across and let's not forget the group either, I still need to make them trust me, else I will never be able to become the leader of the group (it's not my group yet, but I'm doing everything I can to make it mine, saying Lilly is losing control of the group and making sure Kenny won't get in my way by keeping him second guessing him self with his part in Shawn's death, if that option ever comes up again) If by some chance my secret gets out in the open I need the people in MY! group to trust me enough to side with me even though I am a convicted murderer.
When Carley revealed she knew my secret I made sure that she was thinking I trusted her, but at the same time I made a mental note about killing her as soon as possible! That secret gonna stay buried no matter what!
Irene
I chose the mercy option (to give Irene the gun) so she could kill herself, even though what I really wanted was to shot her myself, just to make sure she would do it properly (as in, in the head) just to make sure she did not waste any bullets, and I also found it important to show the group that I would not be able to just off one of them if they got infected (even though that is exactly what I would do, but I needed to gain their trust, it's pretty hard making people trust you when you go around killing other people, even if those people are infected) And I also chose the mercy option because that is what I would hope anyone else would do to me if it were the other way around.
Doug or Carley?
This was the easiest choice of the "hard choices" for me. I chose to save Doug. Even though Carley knew her way around a gun she knew I was a convicted murderer, and anyone with that information will end up getting killed eventually, actually as fast as possible, without me being blamed for the death of that individual of cause.... Just for that reason I chose to not help Carley, and the fact that Doug is some sort of electronic genius/nerd and doesn't panic when faced with the walkers is just a huge plus, he did save Carley, so he must be at least semi useful in combat.
Afterthoughts
I do morn the loss of the gun, but it was a necessary sacrifice, I would have traded that gun 100 times over to protect that secret.
I also need to kill Larry asap! not only because the bastard knows my secret but the prick tried to kill me! And he also threatened to reveal my secret! (just knowing it is a death sentence, but threatening to reveal it and trying to kill me, now that's just crossing the line! Now It's personal! And I even did everything I could to save him by getting his fucking pills!)
As a last note I also need to see if I can get rid of Duck, not necessarily killing him, but if I have to, then I guess I have to. Duck have clearly proven that he is a danger for the group when he drove the tractor over Shawn's leg, and it's just a matter of time before he gets me or someone else killed, again.
Survivor Priority List:
1) Clementine, self explanatory.
2) Kenny. Good leader (if I can't be the groups leader I want Kenny to be the Leader), has a fishing boat and knows how to use it, and he likes me.
3) Karly. She is the closest thing to a medic we have and she keeps Kenny happy..
4) Lilly. Must have gone true basic military training and she is a mechanic, so hopefully she can either fix our cars if they brake or help us in a pinch if we get in contact with the local military (she used to be lower on the list until i saw the trailer the next episode.
5) Doug. His technical skills will hopefully come in handy, even if the power's out. And even though he seems depressed about Carley's death, he likes me.
6) Glen. even if he is gone he ranks higher than Duck and Larry.
7) Random stranger.
8) Duck. He is more on my Kill List than on my Survivor Priority List, gotta keep spoiling the kid for now though, i need Kenny and Karly's Loyalty more than I need to kill Duck, but the first chance I'll get, where I can get away with it I'll dump him in a trunk or toss him in a well.
9) Larry. Killing Larry is on the top of my to do list, its even higher than finding shelter for the group, not as high as gaining everyones trust though...
But i have to kill Larry before he tels anyone that I am a Convicted murderer with him gone, no one in the group knows my secret!
Cop: I didn't know what to say half of the time, i made myself look like i was a murderer though (killing the guy) the conversation was pretty intense my first playthrough. Oh, and i never got to tell the Cop whether to "keep driving" "look out" or any of the other options before he hit the roamer in the highway, lol. In the end, he still hits the roamer.
Day or Night: I picked Day because it's easy to see the walkers and because i know they're usually out more during the night and it would be harder to see them, i used common-sense basically..
Hershel: I was honest the first playthrough because of course, i know nothing of my character. lol, so i used common-sense.
Shawn or Duck: I saved Duck because in my mind i thought, NOOO!!! Clementine won't have a kid to play with or communicate with, she'd be stuck with all these old adults!!! lol, so i saved him instead of my first playthrough. I kind of regret it now since he gets saved either way.
Kenny: I sided with him when it came down to the fight between him and Larry, and i always made the "Loyal and commited" choices because he was the only guy i thought would be of any good use to me for the moment since we got kicked out of Hershel's. Then the people in the Drug Store had a temper, blah blah blah blah blah!!
Arguing about a poor kid who didn't even get bitten. That Larry guy, i want to personally rip his throat out :O if i had the option to get his pills, i wouldn't. What he did after was a d*ck move. I didn't tell Kenny to kick his a** though or start any fighting, i tried reasoning.
In the Drugstore: I did all i could, searched all i could, conversate with each character and most importantly i took care of Clementine and never once neglected her, but i hid and ignored the truth behind Lee's story. I gave her the energy bar, gave duck one aswell, gave the reporter one too.
I fixed the radio inside of the drugstore, with the two batteries that were missing.
I hid the truth from everyone, and lied to Carley.
Irene: I didn't give her the gun because of the simple fact that it just seemed wrong, even though she was bitten two more walkers wouldn't really hurt to have roaming because there's already a ton-load out front of the drugstore. I regret that move too, because of what she did and how messed up it ended. At least i showed Glenn and Carley that i wasn't so much of a bad guy trying to reason with the problem.
Carley or Doug: I chose Doug because he saved Carley in a situation so i didn't think she was really a big "shot" although she had saved me. She's a reporter and what's going on in the city kept repeating in my head..all she wants to do is cover this story and expose me too (for being a "murderer") Also, i chose Doug because he is a nerd and nerds can come in handy when problem solving, lol.
Basically, i looked at it as if "I" myself were in this position in the first playthrough, and i was indeed shocked with the results/consequences.
You forgot to add the conversation with the Cop. How did id go for the people who interacted with them, did they stay quiet? Play innocent? Or just simply talked like he was a criminal?
I tried to be as honest as posible with a lil' not "yoir business" line in the barn
Shawn or Duck
Choosed Shawn. Same reasons.
Irene
I handed her the gun. But, imho, it's very dangerous to arm someone mentaly unstable.
Doug or Carley?
Doug. He's a nerd, we should stick together :-). + That radiojournalist apered to be dumb as cork - can't handle herself even with the gun in her hands. + she probably wouldn't "give" me >_>. (But Lee has a chance)
The only one I went with that wasn't with the masses was saving Doug. My rationale was that he would be more useful going forward. Of course once I saved him and he said I should have saved Carly instead I began to regret my decision...
I was honest with the guy. It seemed like he didn't trust me already so I felt like he would see through my lies.
Shawn or Duck:
I actually hesitated too long and Duck's Dad came for him, and I tried to save Shawn but he died. Kenny wasn't mad for some reason, and Hershel wasn't either, so I guess I won both of them over.
Kenny:
Kenny of course. I don't know why you'd choose the other option... that guy was a completely jerk and it was obvious the child wasn't bit.
Irene:
I gave the gun to her. I didn't see how or why she'd threaten anyone with it, and I would want to end my own life as well if I had been in her situation.
Doug or Carley?
This was a tough choice. I liked Doug and only partially liked Carley, (Really Carley? You don't know what batteries are, and on top of that, DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THEM IN?) but Carley had the gun and I've always been a "women and children first" kind of guy.
Plus, looking at both of their positions, Doug seemed the most likely to die even with help.
I agree with every thing you said and all those things happened to me. I didn't realize that I was supposed to save one of them and I figured that me trying to save shawn was just in vain and that Duck was gonna live no matter what.
1) Clementine, self explanatory.
2) Kenny. Good leader (if I can't be the groups leader I want Kenny to be the Leader), has a fishing boat and knows how to use it, and he likes me.
3) Karly. She is the closest thing to a medic we have and she keeps Kenny happy..
4) Lilly. Must have gone true basic military training and she is a mechanic, so hopefully she can either fix our cars if they brake or help us in a pinch if we get in contact with the local military (she used to be lower on the list until i saw the trailer the next episode.
5) Doug. His technical skills will hopefully come in handy, even if the power's out. And even though he seems depressed about Carley's death, he likes me.
6) Glen. even if he is gone he ranks higher than Duck and Larry.
7) Random stranger.
8) Duck. He is more on my Kill List than on my Survivor Priority List, gotta keep spoiling the kid for now though, i need Kenny and Karly's Loyalty more than I need to kill Duck, but the first chance I'll get, where I can get away with it I'll dump him in a trunk or toss him in a well.
9) Larry. Killing Larry is on the top of my to do list, its even higher than finding shelter for the group, not as high as gaining everyones trust though...
But i have to kill Larry before he tels anyone that I am a Convicted murderer with him gone, no one in the group knows my secret!
Herschel: I completely lied through my teeth and said I fell down running from the Zombies. He still didn't believe me. The option I chose seemed to make the conversation brief. I'm sure he wanted to ask more, maybe on a next play through, I'll mix truth and lie and muddle the story.
Shawn or Duck: Shawn easily. He brought me some place safe temporarily, and I thought if he had survived he would have been a more useful asset to immediate survival. The child is useless. In a real life situation I would even question bringing Clementine. I would have probably killed her in her sleep, but she's here, and I've been taking great care of her, and I like her character alot. I did not scold Kenny on the farm or in the pharmacy, he messed up, he knew he messed up, there was no point.
Kenny or Larry: I mostly sided with Kenny, but I did choose the option if Duck was bitten I would throw him outside as well. In the end he stills considers me a friend.
Irene: I would have shot her myself, I don't know if its possible. The dialouge I chose, she took the gun and killed herself, a stronger woman than I. I don't think I have the gonads to kill myself. I'd prefer to go on bended knee and have someone do it for me before I became a danger to everyone.
Carley or Doug: This one truly made me feel horrible. I liked both characters, even if Carley knew about me. Whereas I had no qualms about letting Duck die. Although I did give the kid Candy as well as Clementine, and I gave Carley candy too. Fitting I was kind to her before the end. Continuing on; this one I let play out to the wire. I chose painfully Doug, simply I thought if we encountered any further electronics or technology that could benefit the group he might be useful.
Larry will die the first chance I get. I don't need unstable hot heads in the group.
Hershel
Lied to him, it's none of his business and my chance of staying there would diminish if he knew I was a criminal
Shawn or Duck
I chose Shawn because seriously I hated Duck the moment I saw him and heard his name. Shawn seemed useful and cool and Duck was the one who ran him over. Sadly he still survived.
Kenney
I sided with Larry, yes the guy is a mega douche and Kenny is a good guy but I seriously hate Duck, I wouldn't side with someone like Larry and I was intent on making him die from not getting his medicine in time but it wasn't to be
Irene
I gave her the gun, it was her choice and she was dead anyway.
Doug or Carley?
Saved Carly for the off chance I could bang her as I'd be all hey remember that time I saved you, since that seemed to do the trick for someone with the proportions of Doug. That and we need someone good with weapons more than anything plus doug is too close sounding to duck. This was a tougher choice than I expected and it pains me that Larry and duck survived whilst Doug didn't.
Hershal
I have zero clue what I did. I was planning to lie saying I was driving home and crashed, which is why I was close to Clem, but then Lee flat out told him the truth so truth I guess.
Duck or Shawn?
Shawn. I shall avenge him soon enough...
Who to side in the argument?
Kenny. I hate duck, but Larry is worse.
Give the chick the gun?
No, had to keep up the "nice guy" act.
Doug or Carley?
Doug. Carley is an idiot for reasons I've already stated.
Everyone's missing something important though, what are you suposed to do with Larry? i mean he trys to kill you but having his daughter on your side would be convinent. Oh yeah, and he knows your secret. I may just leave his butt in the forest by accident.
Herschel: I lied to him about my past because at this point I didn't even known what I've done myself (could be because I'm german and the police officer at the beginning had such a hillbilly slang and I couldn't understand all of it... THAY TOK OUA YOBS!!!)
Shawn or Duck: Duck... because you know... he's just a kid... a freakin' annoying little brat but still an innocent kid... and I thought Shawn would be strong enough to free his legs more easily than a kid sitting on a tractor grabbed by his shoulders from behind... weak Shawn, weak!
Kenny or Larry: Kenny here. I just knew that Duck wasn't bitten by that (stupid) zombie (if I was that zombie I would've bitten the sh*t out of this annoying human being). At first I've tried to calm them down by not ally with one of them keeping myself a bit out of the line of fire but then I got on Kenny's side because Larry was so full of hate and anger and I hate this kind of people more than an annoying child.
Irene: Gave her the gun. She was done anyway and depending on other zombie movies I know what happens when you leave the bitten alive for too long... BRAINS!
Carley or Doug: Carley. Because she had the gun and she is more charming then Doug. And the fact that the ingame character "Doug" is an employee (or a friend) at ttg made my decision even more easier still having some frustration in my stomach because of the launch problems. Eat this, ingame Doug!
Larry: Larry knows my secret, Larry has to die... ehehehehe.
Night or day:
I chose night because it would be harder for the zombies to see the group.
Herschel:
I told him that I fell down, which he later said was a lie. But I did fall! Though I was in a car at the time. He even tells me to become a better liar, so I don’t think he really cares.
Shawn or Duck:
My first instinct was to save Shawn. He seemed like an easygoing guy who wouldn’t cause any trouble. Duck on the other hand: I believed that Kenny should grab if he’s worth anything. But my first line of thought was that the kid is so noisy he’s only going to attract more zombies. I’d be better off with a full grown adult.
Kenny or Larry:
Easiest decision. I went with Kenny. One could tell that Duck wasn’t bit and Larry + his daughter needed a slap. Actually I tried to make Kenny knock Larry out… but Kenny hits like he has limp wrists, and then went down like a sack of potatoes. Later I berated him for running off when Shawn was stuck under the tractor.
Irene:
I gave her the gun, I didn’t even think about her turning it on us. She seemed pretty intent on dieing.
Carley or Doug:
Choose Carley because I think the only time I’m going to need a computer in a zombie apocalypse is when I bashing a walker’s head in with it.
Hershel
Lied my ass off. This was the "Selfish Lee" play through, so I wasn't letting anyone, except Clem, know anything about Lee. Strangely though, the stats say I was honest. *shrug*
Shawn/Duck
Shawn. "Selfish Lee" cannot stand the loudmouthed little twerp or his family. Wished Kenny had been just a bit more chicken-hearted and didn't come to his son's rescue.
Kenny/Larry
Larry. Again with the Duck hate. Is there any way to get this twit killed? I know... not this episode at least. But a fella can hope.
Irene
Gave her the gun. Carley didn't want to, so I told her, "Then shoot her." That went over like a fart in a diving helmet. Gave me a great laugh though
Doug/Carley
Doug. Saved Carley the first time. Thought Doug might be a little more appreciative than, "Wish you had saved her instead." Bah! What a twit.
As a side note, I was as mean as possible to Kenny and his family throughout the play, and laughed my ass off at the end of the drug store escape. Kenny's line of, "I'm not letting anyone else get eaten today... even if he is an asshole," was just plain awesome.
Doug or Carly
I saved Carly because she was willing to trust me regarding my past, and assisting me in keeping quiet about it. She carries a gun and could have made my life miserable with the group. I felt pretty good about that decision when Lilly's dad was threatening to reveal my past.
A quick head count tells me that I saved the gun-toting girl that was already on my side of that issue, I also told quite a bit to Clem about it. So if he wants to stir the pot, he'll tell the couple whose kid I saved, and his own daughter. I like my chances with that. Him and his daughter can go take a hike... I'd rather they left than risk him screwing up my chances with a larger group who may not be willing to see past my previous actions.
I'm gonna play the game as if I was Lee and I was a convicted murderer, who was just lucky enough to avoid getting jailed by a freak accident.
Day or night
I chose the safety of the sunlight, it's much better to see the zombies coming, and really, should I give up on the only sense that I have that actually is superior to the zombies? (sight)
Hershel
I chose sticking to the truth, or at least enough of it to keep Hershel of my back (I got a ride with a police officer and I was in a car crash. That's really close to the actual truth as possible, Hershel doesn't need to know I was cuffed on the back seat, and not sitting in the passenger seat) there is no way in hell I'll go around telling people I'm a convicted felon!
And the more truth there is in a lie the easier it is to get away with it. (the best lie is wrapped closely together with the truth, at least that is my experience)
I chose the "good samaritan option" answer when Shawn asked me if Clementine was my daughter, and it payed out later when I talked to Hershel, because he believed my story.
Katja
there wasn't really any event concerned Katja but I still felt like explaining what I said to her. I made sure to cover my back and not to elaborate why I used to teach, and quickly changed subject to "who wouldn't go back to how it was before" (even though i wouldn't, I would be in Jail if the zombie apocalypses never had happened)
I'm trying to keep my crime a secret and I will pretty much go to any length to keep it that way!
Shawn or Duck?
I chose to save Duck, this time around, even though I really want him dead, he is a huge risk, not only to my life but also anyone in the group. But I have to keep Kenny and Katja as happy as possible to make sure I get a spot on that boat.
Getting off the farm as fast as possible is also a good idea, I don't think It would be a good idea for me to stick around on the farm when Rick and the rest of the people from the comic book/TV series showed up, I can't see how Rick and Shane will react positively towards me after they realize who I am, and sure they might not realize who I am, but I can't take that chance.
Larry or Kenny?
I chose to stay as neutral true out the who conversation, I have no reason to make any enemies! (Kenny got really pissed at me for not defending Duck though...)
Inside the drug store
Talking to Kenny and his family: Even though I am sure that the act of both of us saving Duck, which ended up killing Shawn was our fault I told Kenny It wasn't, I don't need Kenny second guessing himself, or getting some kind of guilt trip later. (still working towards gaining Kenny's friendship/loyalty so I'll get a spot on that boat) I even gave Duck one of the energy bars.
I also gave Clementine a energy bar, I need to keep her liking me! I have also made sure to spreed the information about Clementine's dead parents to all the people I could to show what good person I am, taking care of Clementine and all.
I also made sure not to tell Clementine about my secret, I just said the guy I killed was a walker, I just hope that won't come around biting me in the ass, Because I would hate having to kill Clementine, she is the perfect way to make me seem trustworthy to any stranger I might come across and let's not forget the group either, I still need to make them trust me, else I will never be able to become a trusted member of the group. If by some chance my secret gets out in the open I need the people in the group to trust me enough to side with me even though I am a convicted murderer.
When Carley revealed she knew my secret I made sure that she was thinking I trusted her, but at the same time I made a mental note about killing her as soon as possible! That secret gonna stay buried no matter what!
Irene
I chose the mercy option (to give Irene the gun) so she could kill herself, It was the right thing to do and had I been in her shoes that is also what I would hope anyone else would do to me if it were the other way around.
Doug or Carley?
This was the easiest choice of the "hard choices" for me. I chose to save Doug. Even though Carley knew her way around a gun she knew I was a convicted murderer, and anyone with that information will end up getting killed eventually, without me being blamed for the death of that individual of cause Just for that reason I chose to not help Carley, and the fact that Doug is some sort of electronic genius and doesn't panic when faced with the walkers is just a huge plus, he did save Carley, so he must be at least semi useful in combat, even though It really sucked to leave that gun behind.......
Afterthoughts
I do morn the loss of the gun, but it was a necessary sacrifice, I would have traded that gun 100 times over to protect my secret.
I also need to kill Larry asap! not only because the bastard knows my secret but the prick tried to kill me! And he also threatened to reveal my secret! (just knowing it is a death sentence, but threatening to reveal it and trying to kill me, now that's just crossing the line! Now It's personal!
As a last note I also need to see if I can get rid of Duck, not necessarily killing him, but if I have to, then I guess I have to. Duck have clearly proven that he is a danger for the group when he drove the tractor over Shawn's leg, and it's just a matter of time before he gets me or someone else killed, again.
And I'm actually really happy with all the choices I chose throughout this playthrough, I can't find a single detail I would do in any other way.
Survivor Priority List:
1) Clementine. Getting Clementine to like me is my top priority! because it will be much easier for people to trust me, if Clementine trusts me as well! because who would expect the loving Lee, the guy who adopted and protected the poor little orfened Clementine, of being a convicted murderer? and Clementine is the perfect way to make me seem trustworthy to any stranger I might come across.
2) Kenny. He is a Good leader and he has a fishing boat, and not one of those rich man yacht but a real fishing boat and knows how to use it + the fact that he likes me.
3) Karly. She is the closest thing to a medic we have and she keeps Kenny happy, she also likes me sins I saved duck at the farm.
4) Doug. His technical skills will hopefully come in handy, even if the power's out, he likes me.
5) Lilly. Must have gone true basic military training since she is a air force mechanic, so hopefully she knows enough about engines to fix our cars if they brake down or at the very least help us in a pinch if we get in contact with the local military, and she likes me. (was really hard to make her and Kenny like me at the same time but i figured out how to do it!)
6) Glen. even if he is gone he ranks higher than Duck and Larry.
7) Random stranger.
8) Duck. He is more on my Kill List than on my Survivor Priority List, gotta keep spoiling the kid for now though, i need Kenny and Karly's Loyalty more than I need to kill Duck, but the first chance I'll get, where I can get away with it I'll dump him in a trunk or toss him in a well.
9) Larry. Killing Larry is on the top of my to do list, its even higher than finding a new gun for the group, not as high as gaining everyones trust though, but damn it's close! But that can change really fast! with Larry's temper and all so I have to kill Larry before he tels anyone that I am a Convicted murderer with him gone, no one in the group knows my secret, sins I already got rid of Carley.
Day or Night
Night. Lee’s a fugitive and there’s no telling just how out of control things are yet. Figured the two could travel more ground a little more freely under cover of darkness. And it might make it a little more easy to pass Lee off as Clementine’s dad.
Hershel
Managed to accidentally outright lie to him. I was trying to play it close to the vest with more sins of omission (since it's early in the game and it's unclear to the player whether Lee has actually killed before) but the options were a little more limited than expected. So yeah, wound up flat out lying by mistake and he gave me an earful. He's not my friend.
Shawn or Duck
I saved Shawn but I was still futzing about with the controller and its lack of an "invert Y axis" setting so I didn't pan over to Duck in time. I'm a Dad with a 3 year old and would have chosen Duck if I was there, no question, even though a goof like Duck is much more of a liability than an asset.
Kenny
Dude. Totally Kenny and for a reason nobody's voiced here yet. I'll explain in the next paragraph but before that - Yeah, Larry's an ass, 'nuff said there. If there was a "Lock Larry outside and make it look accidental" option, I would have done it in a heartbeat. It's only the social order of "we're all reasonable people here" vibe that kept me from putting Larry in his place. Kenny's family and Lee are between a rock and a hard place here, so stepping lightly, appealing to people's better good and innate compassion seemed like a more viable choice.
Ok. Let me preface here, my intent is not to troll. But I'm gonna break down a situation that I'm sure the writers have already debated up at the Telltale Games water cooler. Race is tricky to talk about.
Call me prescient but from the first interactions with Larry, I was like "Larry's a racist who has it out for Lee." before you jump on the "he's a troll" wagon, hear me out and maybe it makes for some further compelling discussion down the line.
Fast forward a few scenes to Larry's other interactions with Lee. Between the lean looks he was giving Lee, his absolute lack of gratitude for Lee saving his life and his eventual "Keep your eyes off my daughter" chat, I think the subtext the writers are dancing around is that Larry's a really stressed out, scared guy who it also racist. Not in a blatant, "redneck flying a rebel flag yee-haw" caricature kind of racist, but in an "old guy from a different age" racist. It was the “don’t touch my daughter” talk that cinched it for me.
I’m a white guy who lives in Atlanta and has a mixed race family. Back when we lived in Memphis, my wife and I got that look that the artists captured in Larry's face. Yeah, I know Larry's "I know who you are, you convicted murderer" song and dance is in there and Larry references Lee being on trial, but if I were in Lee's place I'd be walking on eggshells around Larry because I was a black man in a physically restricted, tense environment with an angry, scared, old white guy. Again, I'm not looking to troll with that sentiment or anything, but I think that in a real world, Lee would have very valid concerns with not only being a convicted murderer but being a black man - in the outskirts of a southern city with lingering racial tensions – in a society that is rapidly deteriorating into lawlessness.
...and for the record, all that speculation aside, just on practicality alone, Larry's got that heart condition, he's out of shape, exhibits generally poor fly-off-the-handle judgment. The dude is a liability for those reasons alone and the sooner he's out of the picture, the better. I think his best place in the group would be as zombie bait. Remember, in a race away from a zombie, you don’t have to be fastest runner, just the second slowest runner..
Irene
Didn't give her the gun. Was saving a bullet. Pure practical concerns since no one has yet waved around a bag of ammo clips and said "Look! We got a zillion of 'em!" I would have offered to use the axe if there was an option to do so. The whole time I was thinking “We got rid of all the zombies and she still doesn’t want out. She’s either freakishly irrational (in which case why add her to the group?) or she’s been bitten and wants to keep other people safe.” So while the scene was playing out on the screen I was screaming “Don't open the damn door!!”
Doug or Carley
Carley's shown that she can shoot. The best case scenario I was hoping for was "Lee saves Carley, Carley then plugs the zombies, saving Doug." Doug may have had a moment of glory where he saved Carley in the past but physically he may be a liability.
My wife posited an interesting thought, though, especially looking at the stats at the end of the game which show more people saving Carley than Doug by a large margin: it's interesting that gamers (generally speaking but by no means always) are Doug, technically savvy, maybe a little thick-in-the-middle, can certainly change some damn batteries on their own with no help and could probably have a moment of glory like saving Carley but that gamers chose not to save a character they might closely identify with and saved the skirt instead.
Of course, my wife’s a PhD in the social sciences and was already trying to figure out the ethical ramifications of using TTG's post-game statistics in a scholarly paper if no study participants (i.e. gamers) knew their ethical decisions were being tracked...
Day. It's easier see dangers far aside and I didn't want to wait there more than necessary. Besides, neighbourhood looked clear and I also wanted to take advantage from that.
Hershel
I lied. I was afraid of him knowing the truth from me and being kicked from the farm. Lee doesn't know Hershell so...
He catches me lying anyway. ("I thought that you said we", silly me... )
Shawn or Duck
Duck. Kids goes first to me but I felt bad to myself for letting Shawn there though.
Kenny or Larry
Kenny, of course. I gave the reason to Lilly though when she says that they have taken so many risks to save us. I thanked to them and ask all to settle down but this old butthead starts yelling that Duck was bitten. Geez... I chose to reason with him but it's impossible so I said that if he wants to touch any from Kenny's family he has to kill Lee first and that he is ready to fight anytime. Hehehehe.
I thought that as newcomers shouldn't punch to anybody as soon an argue appears. I don't want to precipitate, only in self-defense or in legitimate defense to Kenny's family or Clementine.
Irene
I'm surprised that most people says "I won't give her the gun because it's a bullet waste" before to "She wants suicide. Are we sure that there are no more options?".
As first dialogue we can offer Irene to come with us and look for some cure but I am not naive. That's not possible, all knows that she it's infected and we all know how it comes to end.
I said that's ok, that she could stay there and not come with us. Then I REFUSE to give her the gun just because I don't want to be involved in any suicide, I'm sorry for her, but NO. Not like this. This is not mercy to me (yet), it's just suicidal.
Doug or Carley
I'm sorry for Doug but I picked up Carley. Why? She's a good shooter. She's our Andrea. All groups need an Andrea, a good shooter Lee will change the batteries and so, he manages so good, hahaha.
Doug was (is) a nice guy but I made my choice. Both have interesting abilities (Carley: shoot, Doug: Electronics) but in this world without electric power... well, the electronics have no sense. MAYBE he's good reparing non-electronic things and building up some useful stuff but... I don't think so, I'm not sure. Well, I made my choice, I have to live with it.
Hershel
I lied to Hershel because I never liked him in the comics. I was also trying to attract as little attention to myself as possible.
Shawn or Duck
I chose to save Shawn because he was the one who saved me from Atlanta (it's only right to reciprocate, right?). Besides, I'm not sure if a kid like Duck would help me in the future. Not only is he a little thick but also very annoying. I was one of the ones who tried to get him killed.
Kenney
I thought Duck really got bit so I sided with Larry towards the end. If someone is bit then it only makes sense to dispatch them, right? I wasn't really thinking about the boat thing because Duck seemed to be more of an immediate problem.
Irene
I chose to keep the gun because I wouldn't want to hand over my gun over to a woman who is about to break down mentally. Moreover, what if she chooses to shoot us instead? I would have given her the easy way out if I was given the option to.
Doug or Carley?
I chose Carley because I thought I could save both of them. Save Carley > Carley shoots zombie grabbing Doug. Of course, that didn't happen and Doug became the sacrifice. At least I have a good shot and a possible romantic partner :-).
*Spoilers* Do not read any further if you have not completed the game.
Title say's it all. What was your reasoning behind the 5 major choice's in the game?
I know it's a game and all and some of you just made the choice's to see the various outcome's but I would like to know what your reasoning would be behind the choice's that are presented in the game if you yourself were in Lee's shoe's?
Hershel
I wouldn't lie to Hershel about killing the guy cause honestly telling the truth would probably get you a lot further in that situation than a lie. Yea a lie would get the suspicion off of you for the time being but get caught and you're screwed.
Shawn or Duck
I chose Shawn on the first play through because he seemed the better choice. Now I know that seems morally wrong but Shawn would be of way better help than some kid. Look at how Sophia ended up in the TV series. Also Duck had a better chance of getting away than Shawn, probably. *Edit* Not completely knocking how useful kids would be in these situations cause Clem did bring Lee the hammer. and if Clem was in Ducks place then the choice would be quite simple. Lol sorry Shawn >_<
Kenney
I sided with Kenny because everybody needs a bro to watch your back in moments like these and that is proven later in the game, and he has a boat, everybody needs a boat. Also going on and on about killing someone's kid without knowing all the fact's is stupid and dangerous.
Irene
I chose not to give Irene the gun simply because I would shoot her myself and save her from that burden. I would want it the same if it were the other way around.
Doug or Carley?
Again first play through I chose Carley because she saved Lee and seems like she knows her way around a gun and shes a woman, never can go wrong saving a damsel in distress. Sorry Doug >_>
So those are my reasons, let's hear yours.
I'm playing Lee as a person who is making a RAPID transition from the rules that apply in the old world (now in its death throws) and the rules that apply in the zombie appocalypse (ZA - new world)
Hershel - told him the truth. I would have told him I'm an escaped muderer if that option existed. Hershel follows the rules of the old world and would have agonized for days in moral conflict and ultimately done nothing. At least I'm not a liar....just a killer.
Shawn or Duck - Shawn. The improved farm defenses are not going to build themselves.
Kenny - I sided with Kenny and would have shot Larry and Lilly if I had a gun at the time. Larry and Lilly need to go away, by whatever means necessary, I'm the leader of the group and they don't appear to be fully on board with that fact.
Irene - I opted not to give her the gun. Yes, she needed to die....but quietly. Lee has an axe and a willing customer. Problem solved.
Doug or Carley - Carley. In the heat of the moment, our defenses were collapsing with Doug barely holding (but still keeping the zombies outside)and Carly being overrun with zombies in the room. The goal was to keep the zombies out until Kenney came back with the truck....mission accomplished.
In retrospect, I still would have opted to save Carley. I can't explain why Lee did not keep the shotgun (could still apply rifle butt to zombie head) or the slightly used claw hammer recovered from Sandy but Carley sets a good example to Lee about having a weapon, keeping the weapon and using the weapon as needed.
Hershel: I told the truth until he asked who I was with in the car, I said "nobody" and he caught on to my lie. I don't want people judging my Lee without knowing him first so I'll probably tell them of my crime in later episodes.
Shawn or Duck: I made my choice before it was even presented to me. I saved Duck because he was a kid, only choice I made on instinct really.
Kenney: I told him to knock Larry out, ended in failure but showed my loyalty, plus I clearly saw with my own eyes that Duck wasn't bitten.
Irene: I told Carley to give her the gun but when she said no, I told her to shoot her then. she called me crazy and just gave Irene the gun. I liked this scene because it showed that my Lee isn't afraid to make the tough choices.
Doug or Carley: It took me a little contemplation to decide but ultimately I chose to save Doug, just because while contemplating I realized that Doug hasn't really shown that he was capable of protecting himself while Carley did. The way I see it, Doug was the real damsel in distress.
Comments
I couldn't agree more. I can't stop LMAO at some of these rationalization. Keep them coming folks.
Shawn or Duck (Shawn, duck's a kid and a kid who got shawn killed.)
Irene (she shot herself, I watched.)
doug or Carley (Carley, though their both idiots that have no reason to be alive given to how dumb they both proven to be.)
sided with Kenny until a bite shows up, then its CLOBBERING TIME!!!!
either that or send him to hersel.
Honest: Because it's hard for someone to trust you when they discover that you have been lying to them (also hershel in the comic was pretty bad ass :P)
Shawn or Duck
Duck: Shawn leg was stuck because of the tractor, so i though i help duck first than put the tractor in reverse so Shawn would be able to break free, but he didn't make it. (sorry for the bad English)
Irene
Gave the gun: Because it was the humane thing to do. Once you're bitten there isn't a turning back. Letting her suffer and slowly dying isn't moral.
Doug or Carley
Carley: Because she was attractive (petty reason i know (-_-")) but also because she got a gun and was good with it, while i thought that doug was out of shape and he didn't seem that have any martial skills.
I told Hershel the truth because chances are it will come out one way or another, and it's best to not have lied.
Shawn or Duck
Shawn 'cause Duck's the one that ran over him in the first place.
Kenney
Like everyone else, I sided with Kenney. Larry should get thrown to the walkers. Just saying.
Irene
I gave her the gun because that's what I would have wanted.
Though on the subject of that choice, I got really pissed at Glen's reaction to it. Would he have rather she died from a torturous fever and then come back to literally bite him in the ass?
Doug or Carley?
I went with the unpopular choice here and chose Doug. Why? Because Carley could work a simple radio -_- First, she tries turning it on while there are no batteries in it. Then she says she "Wouldn't know what to look for" when it comes to searching for batteries. THEN she puts them in the wrong way. Pretty soon she'll be holding her gun backwards and shooting herself in the head. Also, she even said that Doug had saved her earlier, ergo, we know that Doug doesn't panic and run away in stressful situations, he will help. Plus, it was thanks to Doug's electronic skills that we were able to distract the walkers long enough to get the keys from Lee's brother. Who knows what else he can do?
And my list is:
1. Clementine (Obviously...)
2. Kenney (He has a boat. Need I say more? Plus he saved Lee from the walker at the end of the episode)
3. Doug/Carley (As I said, his electronic skills and bravery will be useful. Carley because she has good aim and seems trustworthy enough...*for now*)
4. Duck (save the kid, save the world (by getting Kenney to let me use his boat XD))
5. Katjaa (To keep Kenney happy)
I didn't put Lilly on there because we already know she lives because of the comics. And Larry doesn't deserve to be up there.
Daytime travel
Daytime travel seemed like a no-brainer. The only thing worse than running across a horde of flesh-eating zombies is running across hordes of flesh-eating zombies that you can't see.
Hershel
Honesty.
Lee struck me as a guilt-ridden but honest type of guy so I was honest with Hershel. I was honest about Lee's past as much as possible with everyone actually. I'd rather not have Lee's past railroaded by the plot and allow people to leverage it over him. Poor guy suffered enough. Hell, everyone's suffered enough to survive through a Zombocalypse.
Shawn or Duck
Duck (though tried for both).
I liked Kenny and wanted to protect his family. Paternal instincts kicked in as well to save the kid...no matter how much he quacks.
Kenney or Larry Argument
Larry (unintentionally)
I actually tried to play peacemaker on this one and didn't side with anyone until my hand was forced. Strangely enough, Lee getting in Larry's face and giving a "I'll beat that ass!" speech that would've made King Leonidas proud equaled me siding with Larry. Thanks Telltale!
Larry: This is madness! The kid's been bitten!
Lee: Madness? *dramatic pause as Lee looks to Clementine*
*Clementine gives a thumbs-up*
Lee: This...is...DRUGSTORE!!! *legkick's Larry through the boarded window out into the street*
*Zombies nom nom a bewildered Larry*
Irene
Did not give gun.
I chose not to give Irene the gun because she was obviously deteriorating emotionally and physically and I didn't want to jeopardize the safety of Carley and Glen (which ironically, is exactly what happened). Plus, if my time in Cub Scouts taught me anything it's "never give a gun to a psycho zombie lady".
Doug or Carley?
Carley (though again tried for both).
This one was pretty easy. Carley all the way. With better character development and a headshot count to rival a Call of Duty leaderboard, Doug was doomed to become an all you can eat zombie feast. I hope they choke on his sandals. Nice try Telltale in attempting to squeeze in a little empathy for Doug as he wrestled the door shut with Lee. Too bad my response was "Shut up, Doug!"
If that scene was a Jordan vs Bird commercial circa late-90's Lee would've grabbed the purse, thrown it at the zombies clutching Doug (freeing him), then ricocheting off a zombie head to Carley with enough time for her to get to the ammo clip. High-fives and gatorade showers would've followed. Possibly a Big Mac.
I didn't choose between Duck and Shawn - It was not my option...I just lost time to decide and Lee was stuck.
I wasn't aware that was an option! Time for a fiftieth playthrough!
Yeah!
When I saw I had to decide...I got stuck. I didn't choose..... Lee got stuck and the game acted by itself... I won't tell what happened
I chose to save duck. I hate the kid, he's very annoying, but you gotta save the kid. Plus I hated Herschel.
I didn't lie to Herschel, but he still treated me like crap and was suspicious the whole time.
I was trying to be diplomatic in the situation between Larry and Kenny and I thought when I said about negotiating I thought we were negotiating with Larry but it said I sided with him, which wasn't what I was trying to do. I was just trying to calm people down and rationally look at the situation. Kenny wasn't angry with me or anything and Larry still hated me.
I didn't give the gun to Irene. I was thinking there'd be an option for me to shoot her but there wasn't. She was talking about being a Christian so I didn't think she'd kill herself since that's usually considered to be a bad thing, but she did.
I saved Carley. She needed help, she screamed that she was out of ammo and it was in her purse, so I hardly think the argument that she had a gun was valid. Yeah Doug could have been more useful and my real life brother's name is Doug but in this game Doug was just kinda boring, the whole keep a secret with Carley should make for great drama later on.
Hershel
Didn't exactly lie, yet I tried to omit all particulars; better for people not to know this guy is a criminal if I want to make allies
Shawn or Duck?
I wanted to save both so the most reasonable choice for me was to save Duck and drive the tractor behind to free his leg; I was wrong at the end, but it was worth a try
Kenney or Larry Argument
It was such a petty argument for me so I chose to make Larry shut up by hitting his face so I could check on Clementine fast; the fact she was saying there was someone there looked like the priority for me.
Irene
Didn't give her the gun; no way I handle an useful weapon to a zombie, even if in transiction. That could be useful later on; I would have accepted to kill her when she asked though.
Doug or Carley?
This was the hardest; once again I tried to save both, but the choice didn't look so easy this time. Saving Doug seemed easier though and Carley looked to be close enough to her purse so I went with Doug, hoping he would run to her fast enough. I do realize her gun could have helped Doug from the distance, but I instinctively went to Doug when I had the choice.
Anyway I would like to know if the choices will have a deeper impact and that they will carry over significantly to next games; if we won't see the people we managed to save anymore in next episodes it would be quite a disappointment.
I figure if people trust you they'll be more inclined to back you up. Lying would only cause things to go sideways if they find out. What's done in the past doesn't really matter any longer anyway. Or well, I didn't get the feeling that Lee could've done something terrible enough to the point where you have to lie about it. He may have killed a guy, but I believed it was partially justified or at least understandable, and I believed others would believe it. So I was as honest as could be.
Shawn or Duck
I copped out on this one. I tried saving Shawn, hit the zombie with the plank and made the fence collapse. Felt that was the shittiest thing ever and would make me a pariah to everyone and reloaded the save. Anyway, the reason I first went for Shawn was that he had skillsets that would be useful and also seemed like an alright guy. Sorry Duck, but this is about survival.
Kenny
Sided with Kenny since I found it obvious Duck had not been bit and the guy was being a total crazy asshole. I tried my best to reason with him first though.
Irene
Gave her the gun. Mercy. She was going to die anyway and wanted to spare herself and others.
Doug or Carley?
Again I prioritized who I thought would be the most important for our group's survival. Instinctively my thoughts went to the person who had just shot like eight zombies in the face, saving multiple people. I liked Doug though, so that made me a bit sad.
Day or night
Chose night, sins I'm a fugitive and I though I would have a better chance avoiding the cops if I went out at night, which was a big mistake because I ran right in to Officer Mitchel... But luckily he didn't recognize me (would have sucked if he had, and then get arrested or shot and then have failed so fast!)
Hershel
I chose sticking to the truth, or at least enough of it to keep Hershel of my back (I got a ride with a police officer and I was in a car crash. That's really close to the actual truth as possible, Hershel dossent need to know I was cuffed on the back seat, and not sitting in the passenger seat) there is no way in hell I'll go around telling people I'm a convicted felon!
And the more truth there is in a lie the easier it is to get away with it. (the best lie is wrapped closely together with the truth, at least that is my experience)
I chose the "I'm some guy" answer when Shawn asked me if Clementine was my daughter, and it payed out later when I talked to Hershel, because he believed my story.
Katja
there wasn't really any event concerned Katja but I still felt like explaining what I said to her. I made sure to cover my back and not to elaborate why I used to teach, and quickly changed subject to "who wuddent go back to how it was before" (even though i wuddent, I would be in Jail if I could)
So I'm trying to keep my crime a secret and I will pretty much go to any length to keep it that way!
Shawn or Duck?
I chose to save Shawn, the reason? Simply because I was on Hershel's farm and I wanted to gain his trust so I could stay there, and in a world where the dead walk the earth I would much rather have a friend who is the son of the owner on the farm I'm working and living on! Than having some snot nosed kid running around getting in to all sort of trouble! (I've seen what a pain in the ass Carl have been in the TV series and there is just no way he is getting me or anyone in my group killed!)
Or at least stay at the farm for a little while, though I wanted to be out of there before Rick and the rest of the people from the comic book/TV series showed up (there is just no way I'm gonna hang out with any cops that might know I'm a convicted felon)
Shawn sadly ended up dying because Kenny ran of with his son instead of helping me push the tractor away from Shawn leg!
Kenny/Hershel
I scolded Kenny In the hopes of me being able to stay at Hershel's farm, but to no avail, I still got kicked off the farm even though Hershel believed in my story (god damn it!) So not only did I get kicked of the farm, I also made Kenny dislike at me for saying he killed Shawn, or at least might have been able to save Shawn if he had just helped me push the tractor away from Shawn's leg... (fuck!, I need to make up with Kenny now! when Hershel's farm is out of the question Kenny's boat is now the best choice for my survival)
Just when I got to the drug store
I chose to stay as neutral true out the conversation, I have no reason to make any enemies! (so I ended up not backing Kenny in the start of the conversation) Or at least stay neutral until that was impossible, and then I step up saying No to Larry about kicking Duck out of the store before we know for sure if he was bitten or not. (making Kenny notice my loyalty towards him and his family, though had Duck been bitten I would have agreed with Larry...)
A little later in the drug store
Talking to Kenny and his family: Even though I am sure that Kenny killed Shawn by not helping me push the tractor of Shawn's leg I did what I could to make Kenny think he didn't think that. (still working towards gaining Kenny's friendship/loyalty so I'll get a spot on that boat) I even gave Duck one of the energy bars.
I also gave Clementine a energy bar, I need to keep her liking me! It will be much easier for people to trust me if Clementine trusts me as well! So getting her to like me is top priority, because who would expect the loving Lee, the guy who adopted and protected the poor little orfened Clementine, of being a convicted murderer? I have also made sure to spreed the information about Clementine's dead parents to all the people I could to show what good person I am, taking care of Clementine and all.
I also made sure not to tell Clementine about my secret, I just said the guy I killed was a walker, I just hope that won't come around biting me in the ass, Because I would hate having to kill Clementine, she is the perfect way to make me seem trustworthy to any stranger I might come across and let's not forget the group either, I still need to make them trust me, else I will never be able to become the leader of the group (it's not my group yet, but I'm doing everything I can to make it mine, saying Lilly is losing control of the group and making sure Kenny won't get in my way by keeping him second guessing him self with his part in Shawn's death, if that option ever comes up again) If by some chance my secret gets out in the open I need the people in MY! group to trust me enough to side with me even though I am a convicted murderer.
When Carley revealed she knew my secret I made sure that she was thinking I trusted her, but at the same time I made a mental note about killing her as soon as possible! That secret gonna stay buried no matter what!
Irene
I chose the mercy option (to give Irene the gun) so she could kill herself, even though what I really wanted was to shot her myself, just to make sure she would do it properly (as in, in the head) just to make sure she did not waste any bullets, and I also found it important to show the group that I would not be able to just off one of them if they got infected (even though that is exactly what I would do, but I needed to gain their trust, it's pretty hard making people trust you when you go around killing other people, even if those people are infected) And I also chose the mercy option because that is what I would hope anyone else would do to me if it were the other way around.
Doug or Carley?
This was the easiest choice of the "hard choices" for me. I chose to save Doug. Even though Carley knew her way around a gun she knew I was a convicted murderer, and anyone with that information will end up getting killed eventually, actually as fast as possible, without me being blamed for the death of that individual of cause....
Afterthoughts
I do morn the loss of the gun, but it was a necessary sacrifice, I would have traded that gun 100 times over to protect that secret.
I also need to kill Larry asap! not only because the bastard knows my secret but the prick tried to kill me! And he also threatened to reveal my secret! (just knowing it is a death sentence, but threatening to reveal it and trying to kill me, now that's just crossing the line! Now It's personal! And I even did everything I could to save him by getting his fucking pills!)
As a last note I also need to see if I can get rid of Duck, not necessarily killing him, but if I have to, then I guess I have to. Duck have clearly proven that he is a danger for the group when he drove the tractor over Shawn's leg, and it's just a matter of time before he gets me or someone else killed, again.
Survivor Priority List:
1) Clementine, self explanatory.
2) Kenny. Good leader (if I can't be the groups leader I want Kenny to be the Leader), has a fishing boat and knows how to use it, and he likes me.
3) Karly. She is the closest thing to a medic we have and she keeps Kenny happy..
4) Lilly. Must have gone true basic military training and she is a mechanic, so hopefully she can either fix our cars if they brake or help us in a pinch if we get in contact with the local military (she used to be lower on the list until i saw the trailer the next episode.
5) Doug. His technical skills will hopefully come in handy, even if the power's out. And even though he seems depressed about Carley's death, he likes me.
6) Glen. even if he is gone he ranks higher than Duck and Larry.
7) Random stranger.
8) Duck. He is more on my Kill List than on my Survivor Priority List, gotta keep spoiling the kid for now though, i need Kenny and Karly's Loyalty more than I need to kill Duck, but the first chance I'll get, where I can get away with it I'll dump him in a trunk or toss him in a well.
9) Larry. Killing Larry is on the top of my to do list, its even higher than finding shelter for the group, not as high as gaining everyones trust though...
But i have to kill Larry before he tels anyone that I am a Convicted murderer with him gone, no one in the group knows my secret!
Day or Night: I picked Day because it's easy to see the walkers and because i know they're usually out more during the night and it would be harder to see them, i used common-sense basically..
Hershel: I was honest the first playthrough because of course, i know nothing of my character. lol, so i used common-sense.
Shawn or Duck: I saved Duck because in my mind i thought, NOOO!!! Clementine won't have a kid to play with or communicate with, she'd be stuck with all these old adults!!! lol, so i saved him instead of my first playthrough. I kind of regret it now since he gets saved either way.
Kenny: I sided with him when it came down to the fight between him and Larry, and i always made the "Loyal and commited" choices because he was the only guy i thought would be of any good use to me for the moment since we got kicked out of Hershel's. Then the people in the Drug Store had a temper, blah blah blah blah blah!!
Arguing about a poor kid who didn't even get bitten. That Larry guy, i want to personally rip his throat out :O if i had the option to get his pills, i wouldn't. What he did after was a d*ck move. I didn't tell Kenny to kick his a** though or start any fighting, i tried reasoning.
In the Drugstore: I did all i could, searched all i could, conversate with each character and most importantly i took care of Clementine and never once neglected her, but i hid and ignored the truth behind Lee's story. I gave her the energy bar, gave duck one aswell, gave the reporter one too.
I fixed the radio inside of the drugstore, with the two batteries that were missing.
I hid the truth from everyone, and lied to Carley.
Irene: I didn't give her the gun because of the simple fact that it just seemed wrong, even though she was bitten two more walkers wouldn't really hurt to have roaming because there's already a ton-load out front of the drugstore. I regret that move too, because of what she did and how messed up it ended. At least i showed Glenn and Carley that i wasn't so much of a bad guy trying to reason with the problem.
Carley or Doug: I chose Doug because he saved Carley in a situation so i didn't think she was really a big "shot" although she had saved me. She's a reporter and what's going on in the city kept repeating in my head..all she wants to do is cover this story and expose me too (for being a "murderer") Also, i chose Doug because he is a nerd and nerds can come in handy when problem solving, lol.
Basically, i looked at it as if "I" myself were in this position in the first playthrough, and i was indeed shocked with the results/consequences.
Day/Night
Drugstore
I tried to be as honest as posible with a lil' not "yoir business" line in the barn
Shawn or Duck
Choosed Shawn. Same reasons.
Irene
I handed her the gun. But, imho, it's very dangerous to arm someone mentaly unstable.
Doug or Carley?
Doug. He's a nerd, we should stick together :-). + That radiojournalist apered to be dumb as cork - can't handle herself even with the gun in her hands. + she probably wouldn't "give" me >_>. (But Lee has a chance)
I agree with every thing you said and all those things happened to me. I didn't realize that I was supposed to save one of them and I figured that me trying to save shawn was just in vain and that Duck was gonna live no matter what.
That. Is. Hilarious.
Shawn or Duck: Shawn easily. He brought me some place safe temporarily, and I thought if he had survived he would have been a more useful asset to immediate survival. The child is useless. In a real life situation I would even question bringing Clementine. I would have probably killed her in her sleep, but she's here, and I've been taking great care of her, and I like her character alot. I did not scold Kenny on the farm or in the pharmacy, he messed up, he knew he messed up, there was no point.
Kenny or Larry: I mostly sided with Kenny, but I did choose the option if Duck was bitten I would throw him outside as well. In the end he stills considers me a friend.
Irene: I would have shot her myself, I don't know if its possible. The dialouge I chose, she took the gun and killed herself, a stronger woman than I. I don't think I have the gonads to kill myself. I'd prefer to go on bended knee and have someone do it for me before I became a danger to everyone.
Carley or Doug: This one truly made me feel horrible. I liked both characters, even if Carley knew about me. Whereas I had no qualms about letting Duck die. Although I did give the kid Candy as well as Clementine, and I gave Carley candy too. Fitting I was kind to her before the end. Continuing on; this one I let play out to the wire. I chose painfully Doug, simply I thought if we encountered any further electronics or technology that could benefit the group he might be useful.
Larry will die the first chance I get. I don't need unstable hot heads in the group.
Hershel
Lied to him, it's none of his business and my chance of staying there would diminish if he knew I was a criminal
Shawn or Duck
I chose Shawn because seriously I hated Duck the moment I saw him and heard his name. Shawn seemed useful and cool and Duck was the one who ran him over. Sadly he still survived.
Kenney
I sided with Larry, yes the guy is a mega douche and Kenny is a good guy but I seriously hate Duck, I wouldn't side with someone like Larry and I was intent on making him die from not getting his medicine in time but it wasn't to be
Irene
I gave her the gun, it was her choice and she was dead anyway.
Doug or Carley?
Saved Carly for the off chance I could bang her as I'd be all hey remember that time I saved you, since that seemed to do the trick for someone with the proportions of Doug. That and we need someone good with weapons more than anything plus doug is too close sounding to duck. This was a tougher choice than I expected and it pains me that Larry and duck survived whilst Doug didn't.
Question to those who sided with Larry. Does he still sucker punch you and demand you stay away from Lily?
yes and kenny still comes to save you even if you treated him like manure.
I have zero clue what I did. I was planning to lie saying I was driving home and crashed, which is why I was close to Clem, but then Lee flat out told him the truth so truth I guess.
Duck or Shawn?
Shawn. I shall avenge him soon enough...
Who to side in the argument?
Kenny. I hate duck, but Larry is worse.
Give the chick the gun?
No, had to keep up the "nice guy" act.
Doug or Carley?
Doug. Carley is an idiot for reasons I've already stated.
Shawn or Duck: Duck... because you know... he's just a kid... a freakin' annoying little brat but still an innocent kid... and I thought Shawn would be strong enough to free his legs more easily than a kid sitting on a tractor grabbed by his shoulders from behind... weak Shawn, weak!
Kenny or Larry: Kenny here. I just knew that Duck wasn't bitten by that (stupid) zombie (if I was that zombie I would've bitten the sh*t out of this annoying human being). At first I've tried to calm them down by not ally with one of them keeping myself a bit out of the line of fire but then I got on Kenny's side because Larry was so full of hate and anger and I hate this kind of people more than an annoying child.
Irene: Gave her the gun. She was done anyway and depending on other zombie movies I know what happens when you leave the bitten alive for too long... BRAINS!
Carley or Doug: Carley. Because she had the gun and she is more charming then Doug. And the fact that the ingame character "Doug" is an employee (or a friend) at ttg made my decision even more easier still having some frustration in my stomach because of the launch problems. Eat this, ingame Doug!
Larry: Larry knows my secret, Larry has to die... ehehehehe.
I chose night because it would be harder for the zombies to see the group.
Herschel:
I told him that I fell down, which he later said was a lie. But I did fall! Though I was in a car at the time. He even tells me to become a better liar, so I don’t think he really cares.
Shawn or Duck:
My first instinct was to save Shawn. He seemed like an easygoing guy who wouldn’t cause any trouble. Duck on the other hand: I believed that Kenny should grab if he’s worth anything. But my first line of thought was that the kid is so noisy he’s only going to attract more zombies. I’d be better off with a full grown adult.
Kenny or Larry:
Easiest decision. I went with Kenny. One could tell that Duck wasn’t bit and Larry + his daughter needed a slap. Actually I tried to make Kenny knock Larry out… but Kenny hits like he has limp wrists, and then went down like a sack of potatoes. Later I berated him for running off when Shawn was stuck under the tractor.
Irene:
I gave her the gun, I didn’t even think about her turning it on us. She seemed pretty intent on dieing.
Carley or Doug:
Choose Carley because I think the only time I’m going to need a computer in a zombie apocalypse is when I bashing a walker’s head in with it.
Day or night
Night just to see the difference.
Hershel
Lied my ass off. This was the "Selfish Lee" play through, so I wasn't letting anyone, except Clem, know anything about Lee. Strangely though, the stats say I was honest. *shrug*
Shawn/Duck
Shawn. "Selfish Lee" cannot stand the loudmouthed little twerp or his family. Wished Kenny had been just a bit more chicken-hearted and didn't come to his son's rescue.
Kenny/Larry
Larry. Again with the Duck hate. Is there any way to get this twit killed? I know... not this episode at least. But a fella can hope.
Irene
Gave her the gun. Carley didn't want to, so I told her, "Then shoot her." That went over like a fart in a diving helmet. Gave me a great laugh though
Doug/Carley
Doug. Saved Carley the first time. Thought Doug might be a little more appreciative than, "Wish you had saved her instead." Bah! What a twit.
As a side note, I was as mean as possible to Kenny and his family throughout the play, and laughed my ass off at the end of the drug store escape. Kenny's line of, "I'm not letting anyone else get eaten today... even if he is an asshole," was just plain awesome.
So does Carley... are you gonna kill her to?
Well, at least she swore not to tell anybody about my past so I guess she's save... FOR NOW!
I saved Carly because she was willing to trust me regarding my past, and assisting me in keeping quiet about it. She carries a gun and could have made my life miserable with the group. I felt pretty good about that decision when Lilly's dad was threatening to reveal my past.
A quick head count tells me that I saved the gun-toting girl that was already on my side of that issue, I also told quite a bit to Clem about it. So if he wants to stir the pot, he'll tell the couple whose kid I saved, and his own daughter. I like my chances with that. Him and his daughter can go take a hike... I'd rather they left than risk him screwing up my chances with a larger group who may not be willing to see past my previous actions.
I dident take the chance and saved Doug just because Carley knew Lee's secret
I'm gonna play the game as if I was Lee and I was a convicted murderer, who was just lucky enough to avoid getting jailed by a freak accident.
Day or night
I chose the safety of the sunlight, it's much better to see the zombies coming, and really, should I give up on the only sense that I have that actually is superior to the zombies? (sight)
Hershel
I chose sticking to the truth, or at least enough of it to keep Hershel of my back (I got a ride with a police officer and I was in a car crash. That's really close to the actual truth as possible, Hershel doesn't need to know I was cuffed on the back seat, and not sitting in the passenger seat) there is no way in hell I'll go around telling people I'm a convicted felon!
And the more truth there is in a lie the easier it is to get away with it. (the best lie is wrapped closely together with the truth, at least that is my experience)
I chose the "good samaritan option" answer when Shawn asked me if Clementine was my daughter, and it payed out later when I talked to Hershel, because he believed my story.
Katja
there wasn't really any event concerned Katja but I still felt like explaining what I said to her. I made sure to cover my back and not to elaborate why I used to teach, and quickly changed subject to "who wouldn't go back to how it was before" (even though i wouldn't, I would be in Jail if the zombie apocalypses never had happened)
I'm trying to keep my crime a secret and I will pretty much go to any length to keep it that way!
Shawn or Duck?
I chose to save Duck, this time around, even though I really want him dead, he is a huge risk, not only to my life but also anyone in the group. But I have to keep Kenny and Katja as happy as possible to make sure I get a spot on that boat.
Getting off the farm as fast as possible is also a good idea, I don't think It would be a good idea for me to stick around on the farm when Rick and the rest of the people from the comic book/TV series showed up, I can't see how Rick and Shane will react positively towards me after they realize who I am, and sure they might not realize who I am, but I can't take that chance.
Larry or Kenny?
I chose to stay as neutral true out the who conversation, I have no reason to make any enemies! (Kenny got really pissed at me for not defending Duck though...)
Inside the drug store
Talking to Kenny and his family: Even though I am sure that the act of both of us saving Duck, which ended up killing Shawn was our fault I told Kenny It wasn't, I don't need Kenny second guessing himself, or getting some kind of guilt trip later. (still working towards gaining Kenny's friendship/loyalty so I'll get a spot on that boat) I even gave Duck one of the energy bars.
I also gave Clementine a energy bar, I need to keep her liking me! I have also made sure to spreed the information about Clementine's dead parents to all the people I could to show what good person I am, taking care of Clementine and all.
I also made sure not to tell Clementine about my secret, I just said the guy I killed was a walker, I just hope that won't come around biting me in the ass, Because I would hate having to kill Clementine, she is the perfect way to make me seem trustworthy to any stranger I might come across and let's not forget the group either, I still need to make them trust me, else I will never be able to become a trusted member of the group. If by some chance my secret gets out in the open I need the people in the group to trust me enough to side with me even though I am a convicted murderer.
When Carley revealed she knew my secret I made sure that she was thinking I trusted her, but at the same time I made a mental note about killing her as soon as possible! That secret gonna stay buried no matter what!
Irene
I chose the mercy option (to give Irene the gun) so she could kill herself, It was the right thing to do and had I been in her shoes that is also what I would hope anyone else would do to me if it were the other way around.
Doug or Carley?
This was the easiest choice of the "hard choices" for me. I chose to save Doug. Even though Carley knew her way around a gun she knew I was a convicted murderer, and anyone with that information will end up getting killed eventually, without me being blamed for the death of that individual of cause
Afterthoughts
I do morn the loss of the gun, but it was a necessary sacrifice, I would have traded that gun 100 times over to protect my secret.
I also need to kill Larry asap! not only because the bastard knows my secret but the prick tried to kill me! And he also threatened to reveal my secret! (just knowing it is a death sentence, but threatening to reveal it and trying to kill me, now that's just crossing the line! Now It's personal!
As a last note I also need to see if I can get rid of Duck, not necessarily killing him, but if I have to, then I guess I have to. Duck have clearly proven that he is a danger for the group when he drove the tractor over Shawn's leg, and it's just a matter of time before he gets me or someone else killed, again.
And I'm actually really happy with all the choices I chose throughout this playthrough, I can't find a single detail I would do in any other way.
Survivor Priority List:
1) Clementine. Getting Clementine to like me is my top priority! because it will be much easier for people to trust me, if Clementine trusts me as well! because who would expect the loving Lee, the guy who adopted and protected the poor little orfened Clementine, of being a convicted murderer? and Clementine is the perfect way to make me seem trustworthy to any stranger I might come across.
2) Kenny. He is a Good leader and he has a fishing boat, and not one of those rich man yacht but a real fishing boat and knows how to use it + the fact that he likes me.
3) Karly. She is the closest thing to a medic we have and she keeps Kenny happy, she also likes me sins I saved duck at the farm.
4) Doug. His technical skills will hopefully come in handy, even if the power's out, he likes me.
5) Lilly. Must have gone true basic military training since she is a air force mechanic, so hopefully she knows enough about engines to fix our cars if they brake down or at the very least help us in a pinch if we get in contact with the local military, and she likes me. (was really hard to make her and Kenny like me at the same time but i figured out how to do it!)
6) Glen. even if he is gone he ranks higher than Duck and Larry.
7) Random stranger.
8) Duck. He is more on my Kill List than on my Survivor Priority List, gotta keep spoiling the kid for now though, i need Kenny and Karly's Loyalty more than I need to kill Duck, but the first chance I'll get, where I can get away with it I'll dump him in a trunk or toss him in a well.
9) Larry. Killing Larry is on the top of my to do list, its even higher than finding a new gun for the group, not as high as gaining everyones trust though, but damn it's close! But that can change really fast! with Larry's temper and all so I have to kill Larry before he tels anyone that I am a Convicted murderer with him gone, no one in the group knows my secret, sins I already got rid of Carley.
Night. Lee’s a fugitive and there’s no telling just how out of control things are yet. Figured the two could travel more ground a little more freely under cover of darkness. And it might make it a little more easy to pass Lee off as Clementine’s dad.
Hershel
Managed to accidentally outright lie to him. I was trying to play it close to the vest with more sins of omission (since it's early in the game and it's unclear to the player whether Lee has actually killed before) but the options were a little more limited than expected. So yeah, wound up flat out lying by mistake and he gave me an earful. He's not my friend.
Shawn or Duck
I saved Shawn but I was still futzing about with the controller and its lack of an "invert Y axis" setting so I didn't pan over to Duck in time. I'm a Dad with a 3 year old and would have chosen Duck if I was there, no question, even though a goof like Duck is much more of a liability than an asset.
Kenny
Dude. Totally Kenny and for a reason nobody's voiced here yet. I'll explain in the next paragraph but before that - Yeah, Larry's an ass, 'nuff said there. If there was a "Lock Larry outside and make it look accidental" option, I would have done it in a heartbeat. It's only the social order of "we're all reasonable people here" vibe that kept me from putting Larry in his place. Kenny's family and Lee are between a rock and a hard place here, so stepping lightly, appealing to people's better good and innate compassion seemed like a more viable choice.
Ok. Let me preface here, my intent is not to troll. But I'm gonna break down a situation that I'm sure the writers have already debated up at the Telltale Games water cooler. Race is tricky to talk about.
Call me prescient but from the first interactions with Larry, I was like "Larry's a racist who has it out for Lee." before you jump on the "he's a troll" wagon, hear me out and maybe it makes for some further compelling discussion down the line.
Fast forward a few scenes to Larry's other interactions with Lee. Between the lean looks he was giving Lee, his absolute lack of gratitude for Lee saving his life and his eventual "Keep your eyes off my daughter" chat, I think the subtext the writers are dancing around is that Larry's a really stressed out, scared guy who it also racist. Not in a blatant, "redneck flying a rebel flag yee-haw" caricature kind of racist, but in an "old guy from a different age" racist. It was the “don’t touch my daughter” talk that cinched it for me.
I’m a white guy who lives in Atlanta and has a mixed race family. Back when we lived in Memphis, my wife and I got that look that the artists captured in Larry's face. Yeah, I know Larry's "I know who you are, you convicted murderer" song and dance is in there and Larry references Lee being on trial, but if I were in Lee's place I'd be walking on eggshells around Larry because I was a black man in a physically restricted, tense environment with an angry, scared, old white guy. Again, I'm not looking to troll with that sentiment or anything, but I think that in a real world, Lee would have very valid concerns with not only being a convicted murderer but being a black man - in the outskirts of a southern city with lingering racial tensions – in a society that is rapidly deteriorating into lawlessness.
...and for the record, all that speculation aside, just on practicality alone, Larry's got that heart condition, he's out of shape, exhibits generally poor fly-off-the-handle judgment. The dude is a liability for those reasons alone and the sooner he's out of the picture, the better. I think his best place in the group would be as zombie bait. Remember, in a race away from a zombie, you don’t have to be fastest runner, just the second slowest runner..
Irene
Didn't give her the gun. Was saving a bullet. Pure practical concerns since no one has yet waved around a bag of ammo clips and said "Look! We got a zillion of 'em!" I would have offered to use the axe if there was an option to do so. The whole time I was thinking “We got rid of all the zombies and she still doesn’t want out. She’s either freakishly irrational (in which case why add her to the group?) or she’s been bitten and wants to keep other people safe.” So while the scene was playing out on the screen I was screaming “Don't open the damn door!!”
Doug or Carley
Carley's shown that she can shoot. The best case scenario I was hoping for was "Lee saves Carley, Carley then plugs the zombies, saving Doug." Doug may have had a moment of glory where he saved Carley in the past but physically he may be a liability.
My wife posited an interesting thought, though, especially looking at the stats at the end of the game which show more people saving Carley than Doug by a large margin: it's interesting that gamers (generally speaking but by no means always) are Doug, technically savvy, maybe a little thick-in-the-middle, can certainly change some damn batteries on their own with no help and could probably have a moment of glory like saving Carley but that gamers chose not to save a character they might closely identify with and saved the skirt instead.
Of course, my wife’s a PhD in the social sciences and was already trying to figure out the ethical ramifications of using TTG's post-game statistics in a scholarly paper if no study participants (i.e. gamers) knew their ethical decisions were being tracked...
More that I think about it and read these reply's saving Doug may not be so bad >.> lol. bro's before ho's HaH!
Day. It's easier see dangers far aside and I didn't want to wait there more than necessary. Besides, neighbourhood looked clear and I also wanted to take advantage from that.
Hershel
I lied. I was afraid of him knowing the truth from me and being kicked from the farm. Lee doesn't know Hershell so...
He catches me lying anyway. ("I thought that you said we", silly me...
Shawn or Duck
Duck. Kids goes first to me but I felt bad to myself for letting Shawn there though.
Kenny or Larry
Kenny, of course. I gave the reason to Lilly though when she says that they have taken so many risks to save us. I thanked to them and ask all to settle down but this old butthead starts yelling that Duck was bitten. Geez... I chose to reason with him but it's impossible so I said that if he wants to touch any from Kenny's family he has to kill Lee first and that he is ready to fight anytime. Hehehehe.
I thought that as newcomers shouldn't punch to anybody as soon an argue appears. I don't want to precipitate, only in self-defense or in legitimate defense to Kenny's family or Clementine.
Irene
I'm surprised that most people says "I won't give her the gun because it's a bullet waste" before to "She wants suicide. Are we sure that there are no more options?".
As first dialogue we can offer Irene to come with us and look for some cure but I am not naive. That's not possible, all knows that she it's infected and we all know how it comes to end.
I said that's ok, that she could stay there and not come with us. Then I REFUSE to give her the gun just because I don't want to be involved in any suicide, I'm sorry for her, but NO. Not like this. This is not mercy to me (yet), it's just suicidal.
Doug or Carley
I'm sorry for Doug but I picked up Carley. Why? She's a good shooter. She's our Andrea. All groups need an Andrea, a good shooter
Doug was (is) a nice guy but I made my choice. Both have interesting abilities (Carley: shoot, Doug: Electronics) but in this world without electric power... well, the electronics have no sense.
I lied to Hershel because I never liked him in the comics. I was also trying to attract as little attention to myself as possible.
Shawn or Duck
I chose to save Shawn because he was the one who saved me from Atlanta (it's only right to reciprocate, right?). Besides, I'm not sure if a kid like Duck would help me in the future. Not only is he a little thick but also very annoying. I was one of the ones who tried to get him killed.
Kenney
I thought Duck really got bit so I sided with Larry towards the end. If someone is bit then it only makes sense to dispatch them, right? I wasn't really thinking about the boat thing because Duck seemed to be more of an immediate problem.
Irene
I chose to keep the gun because I wouldn't want to hand over my gun over to a woman who is about to break down mentally. Moreover, what if she chooses to shoot us instead? I would have given her the easy way out if I was given the option to.
Doug or Carley?
I chose Carley because I thought I could save both of them. Save Carley > Carley shoots zombie grabbing Doug. Of course, that didn't happen and Doug became the sacrifice. At least I have a good shot and a possible romantic partner :-).
I'm playing Lee as a person who is making a RAPID transition from the rules that apply in the old world (now in its death throws) and the rules that apply in the zombie appocalypse (ZA - new world)
Hershel - told him the truth. I would have told him I'm an escaped muderer if that option existed. Hershel follows the rules of the old world and would have agonized for days in moral conflict and ultimately done nothing. At least I'm not a liar....just a killer.
Shawn or Duck - Shawn. The improved farm defenses are not going to build themselves.
Kenny - I sided with Kenny and would have shot Larry and Lilly if I had a gun at the time. Larry and Lilly need to go away, by whatever means necessary, I'm the leader of the group and they don't appear to be fully on board with that fact.
Irene - I opted not to give her the gun. Yes, she needed to die....but quietly. Lee has an axe and a willing customer. Problem solved.
Doug or Carley - Carley. In the heat of the moment, our defenses were collapsing with Doug barely holding (but still keeping the zombies outside)and Carly being overrun with zombies in the room. The goal was to keep the zombies out until Kenney came back with the truck....mission accomplished.
In retrospect, I still would have opted to save Carley. I can't explain why Lee did not keep the shotgun (could still apply rifle butt to zombie head) or the slightly used claw hammer recovered from Sandy but Carley sets a good example to Lee about having a weapon, keeping the weapon and using the weapon as needed.
Shawn or Duck: I made my choice before it was even presented to me. I saved Duck because he was a kid, only choice I made on instinct really.
Kenney: I told him to knock Larry out, ended in failure but showed my loyalty, plus I clearly saw with my own eyes that Duck wasn't bitten.
Irene: I told Carley to give her the gun but when she said no, I told her to shoot her then. she called me crazy and just gave Irene the gun. I liked this scene because it showed that my Lee isn't afraid to make the tough choices.
Doug or Carley: It took me a little contemplation to decide but ultimately I chose to save Doug, just because while contemplating I realized that Doug hasn't really shown that he was capable of protecting himself while Carley did. The way I see it, Doug was the real damsel in distress.