i wouldnt pass telltale up for your countries law, but rather game quality and misrepresentation.
yeah, the game doesnt have a load of options for you to pick from, despite the steam advertisement spam page saying otherwise. its fun the first play through. thats about it. perhaps the next episodes will change that, but since its from a comic with set story, i doubt it.
i didnt have any issues with the sound like some complain of, and the graphics are reasonable (though not up to todays standards.)
the console port is kinda sloppy too. just some thoughts
That's your right. But why bother and still coming back here? I don't think that things will change soon and there were some suggestions of how to get the game anyway.
Honestly, I think people don't look for solutions or ways to get the name, then they come to complain....it's easier!
Too much "mimimi" to me....
I would have thought the reason for coming here and posting was fairly obvious. If I wanted to voice my complaint in a forum that might have some effect, why not at the forum run by the developer. I am not the only kiwi here that has said something.
i wouldnt pass telltale up for your countries law, but rather game quality and misrepresentation.*
yeah, the game doesnt have a load of options for you to pick from, despite the steam advertisement spam page saying otherwise. its fun the first play through. thats about it. perhaps the next episodes will change that, but since its from a comic with set story, i doubt it.
*i didnt have any issues with the sound like some complain of, and the graphics are reasonable (though not up to todays standards.)*
the console port is kinda sloppy too. just some thoughts
What?
I seriously hope you are both having a laugh. As has been repeatedly said. NZ HAS an R18 rating. It is Australia that doesn't. I am absolutely positive that if the game wasn't released in the Netherlands but the rest of Europe there world be complaints, or if the game wasn't released in Canada, but across the border in US.
Haven't we already had a post from a telltale employee explaining that
New Zealend is considered part of Australias market share. if Telltale can't make money off of Australia's audience then it's not economically feasible to release it in NZ because they aren't making enough money to be worth it. I mean i feel similarly i live in a state and city that never gets a decent anime/gaming/comic convention in my city because it's not worth the companies or celebrities time.
I didnt state I wouldnt be boycotting this game. I am no longer going to support this company at all. I enjoyed Sam and Max, as well as Tales from Monkey Island. Everything else though has been substantially worse, or dumbed down to appeal to toddlers apparently (Jurassic Park is appalling). Add to this the fact they they wont bother to get it rated for NZ. They can, but they refuse to do it. It's the final straw. This company has become a joke. Making progressively easier and more boring games and then knowingly telling an entire country that we arent worth it. I had hope for TWD that finally Telltale might make a decent game again.
Oh I have a high end gaming PC so I can get this any time I want. That is actually beside the point. The issue is that Telltale consciously decided that my country was not worth the tiny monetary investment for the console fans of the genre. As a result I will not buy another Telltale game ever.
The reason I posted this was to let Telltale know that they have lost a fan (granted one that had been losing faith over time, but still a fan), and this sort of action is unacceptable.
I am glad that there are a number of new or refreshed adventure games coming out over the next year or two, then maybe we'll see some decent games in the space.
I didnt state I wouldnt be boycotting this game. I am no longer going to support this company at all. I enjoyed Sam and Max, as well as Tales from Monkey Island. Everything else though has been substantially worse, or dumbed down to appeal to toddlers apparently (Jurassic Park is appalling). Add to this the fact they they wont bother to get it rated for NZ. They can, but they refuse to do it. It's the final straw. This company has become a joke. Making progressively easier and more boring games and then knowingly telling an entire country that we arent worth it. I had hope for TWD that finally Telltale might make a decent game again.
Oh I have a high end gaming PC so I can get this any time I want. That is actually beside the point. The issue is that Telltale consciously decided that my country was not worth the tiny monetary investment for the console fans of the genre. As a result I will not buy another Telltale game ever.
The reason I posted this was to let Telltale know that they have lost a fan (granted one that had been losing faith over time, but still a fan), and this sort of action is unacceptable.
I am glad that there are a number of new or refreshed adventure games coming out over the next year or two, then maybe we'll see some decent games in the space.
It's so dramatic. How could TTG dare to commit this mortal sin that is unforgivable? I ask all NZ nationalists to unite and bring down this dragon of filth and corruption. Why did the US army help the people of Libya, but not here? Does this mean that TTG and the US army both work together to bring down NZ??? One dares not think of such injustice.
Don't you think that your reaction might be a little tiny bit extreme? Nobody insults NZ. ... Anyway, I'm definetly bored of this thread now. Please don't declare war on me because I ignore the agony of NZ.
Guys from NZ and Australia....I know it's not good but what if you buy pc versions?
Or even, buy pc version and wait for the 5 episodes..then you can buy it on ebay for example...
There ya go, bitch at telltale games because your country has strange censorship laws.
Makes sense....
The funny thing is Aussies love to state how "free and liberal" the country is but even as an Aussie myself I have to say we do have very restrictive laws which a lot of times do not make sense. We live in a nanny state especially where I live, capitol city of all nanny states but most people here dont like to admit it. I certaintly dont blame telltale games for this but still feel disappointed that our country cant get its head out of its arse and sort the whole ratings system for games already. Its ridiculous.
Instead of taking that chance, and potentially losing a lot of money over nothing, Telltale are waiting until Australia implements an R18+ rating for games (1/1/2013).
I'm a big gaming company, but I can't afford/be bothered to take the effort to let Austrlian/NZ gamers know in advance that we won't be even attempting to pay the once off fee of $1,210* to have our game and all further chapters classified!
It's not the fact that they didn't try to have it classified that annoys me (Ok, maybe a little) - it's the fact that they didn't let know until the actual release date that they didn't feel like trying, and even now they don't seem to care or feel like apologising for that. THAT's the reason I will never buy another Telltale game. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I STILL don't believe they've released a statement beyond the "Due to the OFLC..." (Which is an office that doesn't even exist anymore! Shows what research and effort Telltale put into that decision). Have they actually confirmed they are waiting for the R18+ rating, or is that just speculation?
Also, the response of "You guys just want something to complain about! You have plenty of options to buy it, just go break the Xbox/PSN TOS, or enter a legal grey area at best (at worst flat out illegal) and buy an unclassified game on steam!" ...Can't you see how silly that response is? Even just a little?
If you have a high end gaming PC. Why not just purchase the game on that? For example if the is game reviewed to have a bad port to a certain console or for the PC I would avoid buying it on that platform and go for the one that is praised upon performing better rather than just avoiding the game all together. Specially if I was looking forward to it.
I have to say Telltale games did not make a good first impression for me although I enjoyed the walking dead very much and think you are being a little quick to judge why not just get the game on PC?
If you have a high end gaming PC. Why not just purchase the game on that? For example if the is game reviewed to have a bad port to a certain console or for the PC I would avoid buying it on that platform and go for the one that is praised upon performing better rather than just avoiding the game all together. Specially if I was looking forward to it.
I have to say Telltale games did not make a good first impression for me although I enjoyed the walking dead very much and think you are being a little quick to judge why not just get the game on PC?
I don't know about others here. But I for one have repeatedly said, my PC (Laptop) won't run it. It has 2gb RAM, and no dedicated graphics. Yes I could build a PC I guess. But that will run me out at about $1500 by the time I buy everything required. Just to play this one game. TTG have made it clear they don't see NZ as a viable market. So I really don't fancy spending as much as TTG would need to spend to get this game rated for my entire country.
So again, I have consoles for gaming. And as long as TTG take this stance with NZ, I won't buy their game.
So you don't buy the games because you can't buy the games and should TTG finally manage to make the games available to you, you won't buy them any longer?
This world is getting too complicated for me. :rolleyes:
Aren't they released online and therefore available to anyone who has the internet?
Ya, I'm in "Australia" & yet
why yes, I can buy it & play it
cryocore I don't know where u got ur intel, but if its in a store, u may have misunderstood them.
I ask the same thing in the store & they say they don't sell them.
Not because of some law, but because the game is only available online for now.
When the game is fully completed (all 5 episodes) than we'll have it in the stores.
The same thing happened with Tales of Monkey Island
I don't know about others here. But I for one have repeatedly said, my PC (Laptop) won't run it. It has 2gb RAM, and no dedicated graphics. Yes I could build a PC I guess. But that will run me out at about $1500 by the time I buy everything required. Just to play this one game. TTG have made it clear they don't see NZ as a viable market. So I really don't fancy spending as much as TTG would need to spend to get this game rated for my entire country.
So again, I have consoles for gaming. And as long as TTG take this stance with NZ, I won't buy their game.
Chickenman..... I own a computer shop, and I could build you a PC cabable of playing any game on the market and ship it to you for under $1000 easy. Probably more like $750 if you don't need to play new games maxed out.
Just sayin... if you need a PC anyway, don't waste money. Hit me up sometime I'll at least help ya out
You guys in the antipodes get a raw deal on games. My Fiancee is Kiwi and when we visited I couldn't believe the price and poor availability of games.
Made me consider setting up a business to rival Gamestop. NZ $140 for any game is a rip off considering exchange rates and the fact brand-new games in the UK could be bought for around $70 in a supermarket.
You guys in the antipodes get a raw deal on games. My Fiancee is Kiwi and when we visited I couldn't believe the price and poor availability of games.
Made me consider setting up a business to rival Gamestop. NZ $140 for any game is a rip off considering exchange rates and the fact brand-new games in the UK could be bought for around $70 in a supermarket.
or £30-40
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Get PCs their much better and you will never have this problem again.
I live in New Zealand. Telltale has decided not to release these games here because of the backwards ratings laws in Australia. New Zealand is NOT Australia. Just as Canada is not the United States.
Frankly this is pathetic, and short sighted.
Really hate to burst the bubble but issues like this normally not dev's fault.
.......I know of a good couple hundred people from Steam who won't buy from TTG any longer, due to the whole release date nonsense.
Keep an eye on the number of people who have suggested the game, it keeps dropping.
OHHH, MY GAWD!!!
A good hundered people on Steam, you actually found A GOOD HUNDERED PEOPLE ON STEAM, run for the hills!!! That you all didn't start an "Occupy Telltale" movement on Facebook is beyond me sir!!! Or maybe you where choosen as a spokesman for this group of "Let's hide behind DFKTR's" to go and really tell it to them on the Forums... and in that sir, you couldn't deliver!
One simple, remark now if you will... Next time wait for the entire game to be finished then you don't have to nag...
Still though, he makes a good point.
It's not that the games are entirely unavailable to him, just not on console.
They've been available to him all along. And if he's got a problem with them not being released in his country on console, that's hardly TTG's fault because they offer it universally on PC. If the guy really has a problem with this he should take it up with his government, and not pick on TTG because they are the easier target.
Maybe the 'Steam boycott' won't last, but i'm sure TTG will have a hard time coping with the close to 100 claims filed with the Better Business Bureau over the past 24 hours....
No game will ever be boycotted because the standard consumer doesn't know how to stand up to big companies, e.g. Mass effect 3, promised a decent ending, people got an unfinished product, then after a while revealed they are releasing a second ending as dlc, what sort of madness is this, they demand extra money for a substandard game, this will keeP happening until People learn to close their wallets or at least wise up a bit..
the other flip side to a boycott is for as many of them that won't buy theres probably at least 2 others who think a boycott is a load of bull poo and so the more anti boycotters there are the more meaningless the boycott is..like when something sells over a million times
which for me has been proved on here for the 10-20 or so no more monies for ttg group there are at least 40 or so who even despite the delay will stick with ttg
(numbers or not confirmed but an estimate and or pure guess work)
omnom did you play saints row 3 ? if so would you agree the dlc was garbage ?
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yeah, the game doesnt have a load of options for you to pick from, despite the steam advertisement spam page saying otherwise. its fun the first play through. thats about it. perhaps the next episodes will change that, but since its from a comic with set story, i doubt it.
i didnt have any issues with the sound like some complain of, and the graphics are reasonable (though not up to todays standards.)
the console port is kinda sloppy too. just some thoughts
Too much "mimimi" to me....
Well, this guy found the solution.
Its not available in his country, so he wont buy it. Problem solved right there.
I would have thought the reason for coming here and posting was fairly obvious. If I wanted to voice my complaint in a forum that might have some effect, why not at the forum run by the developer. I am not the only kiwi here that has said something.
So it's not about me me me.
What?
I seriously hope you are both having a laugh. As has been repeatedly said. NZ HAS an R18 rating. It is Australia that doesn't. I am absolutely positive that if the game wasn't released in the Netherlands but the rest of Europe there world be complaints, or if the game wasn't released in Canada, but across the border in US.
New Zealend is considered part of Australias market share. if Telltale can't make money off of Australia's audience then it's not economically feasible to release it in NZ because they aren't making enough money to be worth it. I mean i feel similarly i live in a state and city that never gets a decent anime/gaming/comic convention in my city because it's not worth the companies or celebrities time.
Oh I have a high end gaming PC so I can get this any time I want. That is actually beside the point. The issue is that Telltale consciously decided that my country was not worth the tiny monetary investment for the console fans of the genre. As a result I will not buy another Telltale game ever.
The reason I posted this was to let Telltale know that they have lost a fan (granted one that had been losing faith over time, but still a fan), and this sort of action is unacceptable.
I am glad that there are a number of new or refreshed adventure games coming out over the next year or two, then maybe we'll see some decent games in the space.
It's so dramatic. How could TTG dare to commit this mortal sin that is unforgivable? I ask all NZ nationalists to unite and bring down this dragon of filth and corruption. Why did the US army help the people of Libya, but not here? Does this mean that TTG and the US army both work together to bring down NZ??? One dares not think of such injustice.
Don't you think that your reaction might be a little tiny bit extreme? Nobody insults NZ. ... Anyway, I'm definetly bored of this thread now. Please don't declare war on me because I ignore the agony of NZ.
Kind of like Mexico and the US.
Or even, buy pc version and wait for the 5 episodes..then you can buy it on ebay for example...
It's more like an additional state that runs by its own laws. So more like Hawai'i.
The funny thing is Aussies love to state how "free and liberal" the country is but even as an Aussie myself I have to say we do have very restrictive laws which a lot of times do not make sense. We live in a nanny state especially where I live, capitol city of all nanny states but most people here dont like to admit it. I certaintly dont blame telltale games for this but still feel disappointed that our country cant get its head out of its arse and sort the whole ratings system for games already. Its ridiculous.
Ah, Australians. We're a refined and elegant people.
I'm a big gaming company, but I can't afford/be bothered to take the effort to let Austrlian/NZ gamers know in advance that we won't be even attempting to pay the once off fee of $1,210* to have our game and all further chapters classified!
It's not the fact that they didn't try to have it classified that annoys me (Ok, maybe a little) - it's the fact that they didn't let know until the actual release date that they didn't feel like trying, and even now they don't seem to care or feel like apologising for that. THAT's the reason I will never buy another Telltale game. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I STILL don't believe they've released a statement beyond the "Due to the OFLC..." (Which is an office that doesn't even exist anymore! Shows what research and effort Telltale put into that decision). Have they actually confirmed they are waiting for the R18+ rating, or is that just speculation?
Also, the response of "You guys just want something to complain about! You have plenty of options to buy it, just go break the Xbox/PSN TOS, or enter a legal grey area at best (at worst flat out illegal) and buy an unclassified game on steam!" ...Can't you see how silly that response is? Even just a little?
*Source - http://www.classification.gov.au/Applyforclassification/Feesforclassification/Pages/FeesforclassificationComputergames.aspx
Haha, that is almost certainly the first time I've seen the word "bogan" used on this forum. The Aussie is strong with this one.
I love trying to explain the word 'bogan' to my American relatives. No one outside Australia has even heard the term.
I have to say Telltale games did not make a good first impression for me although I enjoyed the walking dead very much and think you are being a little quick to judge why not just get the game on PC?
I don't know about others here. But I for one have repeatedly said, my PC (Laptop) won't run it. It has 2gb RAM, and no dedicated graphics. Yes I could build a PC I guess. But that will run me out at about $1500 by the time I buy everything required. Just to play this one game. TTG have made it clear they don't see NZ as a viable market. So I really don't fancy spending as much as TTG would need to spend to get this game rated for my entire country.
So again, I have consoles for gaming. And as long as TTG take this stance with NZ, I won't buy their game.
Now that... made my day!!!
Ya, I'm in "Australia" & yet
why yes, I can buy it & play it
cryocore I don't know where u got ur intel, but if its in a store, u may have misunderstood them.
I ask the same thing in the store & they say they don't sell them.
Not because of some law, but because the game is only available online for now.
When the game is fully completed (all 5 episodes) than we'll have it in the stores.
The same thing happened with Tales of Monkey Island
But the comics take 2 minutes and take another month.
Quit complaining, they told you up-front they will be 2 hours and that it would be monthly(although they did fail on that part).
Chickenman..... I own a computer shop, and I could build you a PC cabable of playing any game on the market and ship it to you for under $1000 easy. Probably more like $750 if you don't need to play new games maxed out.
Just sayin... if you need a PC anyway, don't waste money. Hit me up sometime I'll at least help ya out
Made me consider setting up a business to rival Gamestop. NZ $140 for any game is a rip off considering exchange rates and the fact brand-new games in the UK could be bought for around $70 in a supermarket.
or £30-40
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Get PCs their much better and you will never have this problem again.
Nope, just the cost of constantly upgrading your system instead.
We've been there four pages and one month ago.
Your loss OP not TT's.
Keep an eye on the number of people who have suggested the game, it keeps dropping.
OHHH, MY GAWD!!!
A good hundered people on Steam, you actually found A GOOD HUNDERED PEOPLE ON STEAM, run for the hills!!! That you all didn't start an "Occupy Telltale" movement on Facebook is beyond me sir!!! Or maybe you where choosen as a spokesman for this group of "Let's hide behind DFKTR's" to go and really tell it to them on the Forums... and in that sir, you couldn't deliver!
One simple, remark now if you will... Next time wait for the entire game to be finished then you don't have to nag...
Still though, he makes a good point.
It's not that the games are entirely unavailable to him, just not on console.
They've been available to him all along. And if he's got a problem with them not being released in his country on console, that's hardly TTG's fault because they offer it universally on PC. If the guy really has a problem with this he should take it up with his government, and not pick on TTG because they are the easier target.
Yup, because when people on Steam say they will boycott something they really mean it!
which for me has been proved on here for the 10-20 or so no more monies for ttg group there are at least 40 or so who even despite the delay will stick with ttg
(numbers or not confirmed but an estimate and or pure guess work)
omnom did you play saints row 3 ? if so would you agree the dlc was garbage ?