Could TWD actually happen?
First thing, THIS IS NOT a thread to argue, prove or disprove anything religious. I'm just sayin....
OK if one believes the bible then a zombie Apocalypse is eminent.
Revelation 20:12
"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."
Revelation 20:13
"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."
Could be taken either way but I'm keeping a shotty handy just in case!:D
OK if one believes the bible then a zombie Apocalypse is eminent.
Revelation 20:12
"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."
Revelation 20:13
"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."
Could be taken either way but I'm keeping a shotty handy just in case!:D
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is this related to the face chomping bath salts guy ?
of so thats been done already
I DO believe that there might be diseases that affect brain functions in living - Mad Cow, rabies, etc. Viruses may mutate and become more virulent. So there is still a small chance that it will happen. SARS killed us quite quickly, so if a virus mutates and becomes highly contagious like that? Who knows?
But I don't think a virus can result in the dead coming back to life. Affects the living, maybe, but not the other way round.
What you believe really has no merit on what actually happens. If one believes in the bible, a zombie apocalypse may be imminent. But it may also not be. Also, a ravenous bunny apocalypse may be imminent.
Also, even if we all accepted the assumption that the Bible was a sneak-peak into the future, I'm sure I'm not the first person to have said that that book is subjected to a bajillion and one interpretations.
Firstly, I'd say that the dead rising for judgment isn't quite the same as zombies turning up. There aren't an awful lot of zombies in the Bible, seeing as how zombies come from a different cultural background to the ancient Hebrews in the desert.
Secondly, the Bible doesn't say when the end of the world is going to happen, so I'm not sure on what basis it can be said to imminent, let alone emminent.
It's more likely that we'll face more wars. The populations and social problems in India, China and Russia might trigger something. Who knows.
Later we might have some new super diseases that kill a lot of people. Maybe that's somehow similar to your zombies.
wouldn't this be someone more believing in Nostradamus or Mayains? I know neither of them state zombies in their predictions, but the bible really never tell of a date for the world to end. The booke does vaguly describe it, but not really wanting to get in to alll that lol:p
The smell. We will smell them. So the minute we are in zombie territory, we will know.
One major difference between the dead of Judgement and the dead of Zombies is that the traditional Jewish ideology is a mass resurrection. So everyone who has ever died rises. And they never die again, except sinners in faiths such as Jehovah's witnesses I think. Resurrection is an ever-life; a person who is resurrected is immune to being killed or destroyed.
Excluding black magic, Zombie methodology is more specific than "everyone" and is a revival of the dead. Examples: Everyone that died since time X becomes a zombie, you can stop a zombie with a decapitation, only bite victims turn, etc....
Revival means they can be killed or destroyed again.
But in real-world terms, a body just isn't going to be very functional after brain-death. Walking requires a degree of muscular coordination that the brain handles without our being consciously aware of it most of the time (at least in humans; I know some large animals have assistant brains to help manage the lower extremities.)
Beyond brain-death, an energy input of some kind is needed, along with a digestive process to extract energy from that input. Biology and all the physics of life and locomotion are pretty delicately balanced, and any corpse with head or torso damage would have a hard time getting around. How do you maintain balance with an inner-ear that's decaying? How do you walk if your rib cage, spine or hip has a big chunk out of it? How do you pursue prey with no functional sensory organs?
Even basics that might seem optional, like breathing, are necessary to support the chemical reactions that allow muscles to move. A few hours of anaerobia would likely immobilize a zombie with no respiratory exchange going on; there just wouldn't be any stored energy available to make movement happen, and no way to convert fat into calories. A corpse starts to break down fairly quickly, so without some sort of replacement for those functions and support structures, and some way to inhibit bacterial growth and consumption of the flesh, a non-living person is not going anywhere.
Now, that doesn't mean zombie-LIKE behavior couldn't be produced by some sort of infection or parasite. The classic Haitian zombie concept, where drugs and psychological techniques are used to enslave a living individual, could also be plausible under the right circumstances. But walking corpses aren't very workable when you look at the mechanics of it.
The recent game "Dead Island" also adopts this concept, of the Infected, where the lead player characters are surviving only because they have a natural immunity to an infectious condition.
But I don't think that's what most people think of when they think of "zombies" -- walking corpses are still scarier than madpersons. "The Monkey's Paw" is still pretty damn scary and we never even SEE the zombie!
Well I don't think some dessert nomads who wrote the bible more then 2000 years ago knew anything about the cosmos, predict the future or even had the understanding of what God is.
Next to that, those pages are only talking about judging people. Not that they would roam this earth an slaughter anyone.
Everyone ever lived will be judged. You have a high fantasy you could even think the Bible would talk about a Zombie Apocalypse as we known them from movie's.l
What? Who fantasises about zombies?!
But pretending it was, it wouldn't last very long if they're the slow shambling zombies from Walking Dead.
Most people could survive taking out atleast a couple zombies with him, even 50% of the people that died took atleast 2 zombies down with him (I feel like I'm being more generous to the zombies) then we'd break even.
Now there will be old people, cripples etc that may not even be able to take out a single zombie. However for the rest of us us could make a weapon out of virtually anything. The only thing I'd really be worried about is other survivors, not zombies.
(which of course is always a concern for the walking dead series)
Not to mention the massive amount of zombies that would be taken out by the more organized people, or people with firearms.
Even World War Z failed to paint a picture of walking dead really being a threat, though it did an amazing job nonetheless.
Though WWZ's zombies were fast. That would indeed be scary
This is why you never see zombie movies which take place in winter.
So our ultimate weapon would be a snow cannon.
that incident is entirely unfit as discussion material on this forum.
what's wrong with that? I thought this thread about zombie apoc?
Kirkman himself has already told people off who thought that the incident coryay referred to was a cool real-life thing to discuss in connection with TWD - which is nothing but fiction after all.
I'm sorry, but it has no place on this forum - except maybe in the general chat category, which naturally has nothing to do with TWD.
Because I'm the chosen one.
(in zombieland the viru is a variation of rabies, i believe,...so people are actually alive...but are dumb, angry and hungry)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3aMcVsjrNg
Add to those 7 the fact the human jaw can't even penetrate denim, any uprising would end before it begins.
To have a chance the zombies would need at the very least animal cunning intelligence and resort to predatory tactics, hiding until they had built up their numbers, and even that's not really possible on a national scale, a lonely town or two is the most they could hope for. So a straight-up zombie arises and starts munching is out.
Now, if the human population was wiped out by an airborne disease first, say 90% of the population, the dead then rising up later as zombies, then they may get a chance to get going. The problem here though is that there would have to be a substantial amount of time between the infection starting and people rising as zombies, as the moment the first zombie rears his head there is going to be a reaction. Governments would resort not just to quarantine measures but scorched earth measures the moment they realised that people were turning into zombies as a result of the infection. To avoid them having the chance the infection would have to either take a while to kill people or not raise them up as zombies until some time later, after the infection had gone world wide. The best chance this method would have would be to become something akin to an airborne version of HIV: remain dormant within it's hosts but communicable so that it can pass throughout the population. Then something would trigger it that would cause it to kill all it's infected hosts within a matter of days of each other, raising them up to munch on people as they are still struggling to save the last of the infected from dying...
I put way too much thought into this...
The problem with that one is that many of their reasons are based on the effects of cold and maggots and suchlike on the dead body, forgetting that they are already presuming that the dead can come back from the dead and so it should be safe to assume that you can stretch the logic that bit further and assume that they have some form of immunity to the usual rotting corpse stuff. They should really have looked at the logistical reasons as to why a zombie apocalypse would fail, such as how many numbers they would need to actually get a decent apocalypse going.