Larry got his own support group now? (SPOLIERS)

So I got thru my first run of TWD Ep II and in the ending stats I saw that 65% had tried to save Larry. This seems strange to me since I have seen noting but hate for Larry around the forum,but I like Larry. I wanted Duck out on his ass just as much as Larry did but I could not say that about Kennys boy, Kenny has a bout after all.

But to the point, have everyone suddenly change thier mind about Larry or do you have your own agenda like Kenny? Only he killed Larry...

Edit:I reserve myself for might have read the stats wrong(But I did not)
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  • edited June 2012
    It has to do more with trying to save someone versus preemptively killing them. Sure they hate him, but it doesn't mean everyone wants to just kill him. I personally figured he was screwed either way, so I figured I'd do the nice thing and try and help.
  • edited June 2012
    There is only one right choice in that scene, the devs kinda messed up. No matter what your only option is to try and save him, why?.

    because if your so worried about him changing to a zombie, then just sit ready nearby with that salt stone and then crash his head in 1 sec.

    It makes no sense to just kill him none what so ever. Its not like he is gonna turn in 1sec and fly up onto his feet in that same 1 sec and then kill everyone in the room.

    You dont kill people you have a chance of saving.
  • edited June 2012
    I'll chalk it up to good writing. In EP1 Kenny was just looking after his family and Lee was around a group he wasn't familiar with and didn't know what to expect.

    In EP2 that looking after his family started turning into downright selfishness and Lily seemed extremely tired and was taking the blame for any problems that cropped up. I did it more for her than anything.

    The horrible spoiler related stuff she'll end up doing in the comics really sucks though.
  • edited June 2012
    Bikes wrote: »
    It has to do more with trying to save someone versus preemptively killing them. Sure they hate him, but it doesn't mean everyone wants to just kill him. I personally figured he was screwed either way, so I figured I'd do the nice thing and try and help.

    Maybe I were naive to think I could save his sorry ass. but I would have stabalized the group and the only one who knows Lee is a killer would have won his life.

    instead its fuc*ed up worse then ever before... not that thier was much before but still
  • edited June 2012
    larry was a dick but i still didnt want his blood on my hands, anyway i thought maybe he really wasnt dead and thought i at least wait for him to turn before kenny can say "i told you so"

    i was very shocked when kenny killed him beacuse i swear to god he gasped just before his brains got smashed in.
  • edited June 2012
    personally, I didnt even attempt to save Larry. After that punch in EP1 in the drugstore where he tried to leave Lee for the walkers, I swore Larry would die as soon as was possible. I was a little surprised to see how my score on that was like 16% in the minority. But I figured, if he didnt die then, I would possibly have to fight him as a walker or later on. Lee killed his brother getting the keys to the pharmacy to save Larry just to have Larry try to kill him.. Dude had to go.
  • edited June 2012
    WowMutt wrote: »
    Lee killed his brother getting the keys to the pharmacy to save Larry just to have Larry try to kill him...

    Lee's brother was already dead. Thank kind of sentimentality has no place in a zombie apocalypse.
  • edited June 2012
    Gennadios wrote: »
    Lee's brother was already dead. Thank kind of sentimentality has no place in a zombie apocalypse.

    True, his brother was already a walker, but to have to risk his own life, finish off his own brother, just to save the life of someone that would try to kill him after, put Larry on the short list!
  • edited June 2012
    Since the end of episode 1 up to the point I had to make this decision I kept telling myself the first chance I got I'd take Larry out, especially after he knocked me out at the drugstore. But, that's surprisingly not what happened. My gut reaction was to try saving him even though he was a jerk towards me. And, it honestly made me feel sick to my stomach holding Lilly back when I played through again to see what would happen if I picked to help kill Larry. :(
  • edited June 2012
    Gennadios wrote: »
    Lee's brother was already dead. Thank kind of sentimentality has no place in a zombie apocalypse.

    Exactly killing a walker is a merciful thing, while in the normal world killing a human is murder. That's why a zombie apocalypse would mentally own people.
  • edited June 2012
    Like it's been said before, I don't buy the we can't kill him when he comes back thing. Walkers are genuinely slow to reanimate and less of a threat alone (going off the lore). Also the hypocrisy was high with Kenny, who didn't want us to kill his own son with that whole thing. Man Kenny is one spineless weak individual, feel sorry for his family when I kick him out.
  • edited June 2012
    Larry was an a****** yes, but he was the only family Lilly had. That's why I tried to save him.
  • edited June 2012
    Masta23 wrote: »
    Larry was an a**** yes, but he was the only family Lilly had. That's why I tried to save him.

    I know, and perhap's their will be reprocussions with killing her dad in a future episode. But after he tried to kill Lee in EP1, and not wanting to risk fighting him as a walker in a locked meat locker, I took it as the only thing to do.

    Like I said in another thread here, I played EP2 much more heartless and with survival as the focus more than making pal's!

    Edit to add: With the exception of Kenny. He's got a boat.. that is my ultimate goal! Keep Lee, Clem and Kenny and his family alive in order to get to the boat.
  • edited June 2012
    I chose to attempt to save Larry.

    I am not going have killing him on my hands, and besides that, he did save my life at the beginning of episode 2.
  • edited June 2012
    WowMutt wrote: »
    I know, and perhap's their will be reprocussions with killing her dad in a future episode. But after he tried to kill Lee in EP1, and not wanting to risk fighting him as a walker in a locked meat locker, I took it as the only thing to do.

    Like I said in another thread here, I played EP2 much more heartless and with survival as the focus more than making pal's!
    On this playthrough, my Lee is not a monster. He tries to see the good in everyone. I began to understand that Lilly and Larry need one another. It would have been heartless to side with Kenny.
  • edited June 2012
    I need to save clem at all costs and Larry never did anything to show that he was on the level with all the complaining he did. To be honest I don't care much for Lily either.

    So obviously I agree, I didn't understand why so many people were trying to save him.
  • edited June 2012
    I tried to save him. Don't get me wrong -- I hated Larry. I too swore I would leave him behind if given the chance after Episode 1... But well, Clementine was there. I didn't want her to witness that.
  • edited June 2012
    iamhere wrote: »
    larry was a dick but i still didnt want his blood on my hands

    Think how lilly feels, she got it all over her face!
  • edited June 2012
    Gman5852 wrote: »
    I chose to attempt to save Larry.

    I am not going have killing him on my hands, and besides that, he did save my life at the beginning of episode 2.

    But that is only becouse you gave him the axe instead of giving it to Mark,would that have changed your choise?
  • edited June 2012
    I hated Larry before I got to understand him. I read his profile on the main page a while back and it said he was a retired army commander. After I read that, I can understand his disgust in a convicted murderer.

    I know Lee claims self defense but to a man with serious discipline like Larry, Lee is seriously lacking. Lee told Carley in my game that he knew about the affair. So something must have happened to set everything off. Maybe he snapped, maybe he didn't but Larry doesn't give a crap.

    Kenny totally became the new "bad guy". Had to be someone.
  • edited June 2012
    A crayz little idea just came to mind...

    What if Larry knew something about Kenny? Something bad enough to make Kenny wanna get rid of him as fast as possible? Its been 3 months since ep I right? Much could have happend.
  • edited June 2012
    I killed Larry.... Yes he was a jerk but i understood he was good on the inside... Still.. I killed em. Kenny is meh bro. I dont want to f*** that up. Anyway if he turned even though walkers are slow, i still dont want to take the chance of someone getting bit.
  • edited June 2012
    Make no mistake. I would have killed Larry eventually, but that was not the right time. I chose to save him, if he had woken up fine, if he turned into a Walker he would be bludgeoned.

    My plan for Larry was similar to what he did to me, leave me for dead in a crucial situation, but make sure he couldn't get out alive, but not like that, not the way Kenny did it. Absolute coward.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited June 2012
    Kennys dark secret is he's floridian
  • edited June 2012
    RMJ1984 wrote: »
    There is only one right choice in that scene, the devs kinda messed up. No matter what your only option is to try and save him, why?.

    because if your so worried about him changing to a zombie, then just sit ready nearby with that salt stone and then crash his head in 1 sec.

    It makes no sense to just kill him none what so ever. Its not like he is gonna turn in 1sec and fly up onto his feet in that same 1 sec and then kill everyone in the room.

    You dont kill people you have a chance of saving.

    /thread

    But if we need additional reasons, Larry does loosen up a bit if you tell Mark you think he's just protecting his daughter (who then tells Larry) and I think he would have warmed up to you eventually if you kept exercising patience.
  • edited June 2012
    I hated the guy so much that I wished it was me that smashed his head instead of Kenny he was a asshole and he was always threatening to tell the group about what Lee did. He needed to be GONE!!!!!!!!!
  • edited June 2012
    Larry was also the only one left (other then Clem maybe) who knew Lee's Secret. I still think Larry would have been a character you could have won over through good deeds. Possibly saved his daughter from some rampaging rapist or something ;) However, if you saved Doug, now your as clean as a new school chalkboard. No one knows you actually are a convict. Possible benefits, and consequences anyone?
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited June 2012
    RMJ1984 wrote: »
    You dont kill people you have a chance of saving.

    That's it, China.

    Whatever Larry had done to Lee, however grumpy he was, he was just trying to protect his daughter (and Clementine!!) from potential threats. He was helping the group as much as he could with his physical strength. And shortly before his death, we could even see him socializing with other people again. But even if he didn't do all that, killing him without being absolutely sure that he'd turn into a zombie... I think that would have been the wrong call.
  • edited June 2012
    I tried to save him but not for him or for Lilly. I did it just so Clementine didn't have to see him get murdered. I hear that if you kill him, she asks you why you did it and looks at you as a murderer from that point on. I'm glad I don't have to deal with that. Even though I hated Larry more than anyone else in the group, I don't regret my decision.
  • edited June 2012
    Kenny hopefully can die in the next episode. I have a fealing lilly is going to leave soon. ='(
  • edited June 2012
    Well i couldn´t have cared less if the a** died, but his daughter is important for the group and actually the player learns to understand her. So i at least tried to help her and so help Larry.

    Quite tricky situation all in all, well done Telltale.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited June 2012
    ruairi46 wrote: »
    Kenny hopefully can die in the next episode. I have a fealing lilly is going to leave soon. ='(

    They must be careful on whom they tread now. You have established a lot of group dynamics. Kill a character, kill the group dynamics. If they kill off Kenny or Lilly in episode three, was it even of any worth to establish, inch by inch, that they must hate each other to the core (if Kenny killed her father, that is)?
  • edited June 2012
    I sided with Kenny in bashing the Larry's ¿corpse? head off. I can't forget the fact that Larry TRIED TO KILL LEE IN THE DRUGSTORE.

    He had a heart attack, he doesn't breathe... enough for me. If we weren't act quickly he would become to a zombie and the situation would be worse.

    Lilly didn't help me out when I was fighting in the last scene. It's normal...

    I tried to give her food at the beginning but told me that she didn't want anything from me. I told her "Ok, crap for you, I'll keep it". I don't side with her or her father at anytime. I think she sees Lee as an enemy now, lol. Of course, in the episode ending, Kenny now ASK Lee to come with him and their family in the RV. He's not suggesting, ASK to Lee.

    Here my two cents.
  • edited June 2012
    iamhere wrote: »
    larry was a dick but i still didnt want his blood on my hands, anyway i thought maybe he really wasnt dead and thought i at least wait for him to turn before kenny can say "i told you so"

    i was very shocked when kenny killed him beacuse i swear to god he gasped just before his brains got smashed in.

    Confirmed by a developer/moderator in another thread. If you perform CPR quickly enough, Larry does breathe in.

    I chose to 'save' Larry. It was a huge defining moment for Lee and Kenny, who until that point had been very close. All through episode one, I found myself siding with Kenny. Episode 2, I started sympathizing with Lily. Larry never meant anything to me personally-- but he wasn't dead yet.

    I didn't care who was the group leader, I didn't really care who my friends were and weren't-- Larry wasn't dead yet. If we could save him by trying CPR for a few minutes, then we had one more asset in the long run.

    I thought Kenny was out of line, but I'm not calling for his head. The group has had enough time to adapt to the new world and figure out where they stand on issues of moral complexity. I'm not about to begrudge Kenny for being willing to make calls that I (and by extension Lee) wouldn't make. I just think it's becoming time for the group to recognize where they stand on certain issues and break off if necessary.

    Edited to add: I'm also sure that if it comes down to Duck or Clem, Kenny will find the next salt lick and personally write Clem's name on it. Between running from Shawn in Ep 1, to killing a member of our group who breathed in after CPR, I have no doubts where Kenny will fall when it comes to anything involving the safety of his son. The safety of the group is not Kenny's priority, and I would very much like to leave Kenny's company as soon as possible. For Clem's safety.
  • edited June 2012
    Confirmed by a developer/moderator in another thread. If you perform CPR quickly enough, Larry does breathe in.

    I chose to 'save' Larry. It was a huge defining moment for Lee and Kenny, who until that point had been very close. All through episode one, I found myself siding with Kenny. Episode 2, I started sympathizing with Lily. Larry never meant anything to me personally-- but he wasn't dead yet.

    I didn't care who was the group leader, I didn't really care who my friends were and weren't-- Larry wasn't dead yet. If we could save him by trying CPR for a few minutes, then we had one more asset in the long run.

    I thought Kenny was out of line, but I'm not calling for his head. The group has had enough time to adapt to the new world and figure out where they stand on issues of moral complexity. I'm not about to begrudge Kenny for being willing to make calls that I (and by extension Lee) wouldn't make. I just think it's becoming time for the group to recognize where they stand on certain issues and break off if necessary.

    Edited to add: I'm also sure that if it comes down to Duck or Clem, Kenny will find the next salt lick and personally write Clem's name on it. Between running from Shawn in Ep 1, to killing a member of our group who breathed in after CPR, I have no doubts where Kenny will fall when it comes to anything involving the safety of his son. The safety of the group is not Kenny's priority, and I would very much like to leave Kenny's company as soon as possible. For Clem's safety.

    If Kenny tries to kill clem i swear to god i will kill that man. Clem is the best.
  • edited June 2012
    I tried to save Larry because I wanted to be on Lilly's good side.

    Though due to the comics I don't think she's going to stay until the end of episode 5. So Carley comes before Lilly ;o
  • edited June 2012
    Let's make a Larry support group thread then. lol. I also disliked Larry at first, but ehh...
  • edited June 2012
    TG77lead wrote: »
    If Kenny tries to kill clem i swear to god i will kill that man. Clem is the best.

    I didn't realize how much I loved her until 2. I mean, I have a soft spot for kids-- but her reaction when Kenny bashed in Larry's head? I will cut anyone who messes with her.

    At dinner, when Denny grabbed her, my reaction was literally: "I will kill you dude". Luckily, that was also the only choice I could read on the dialogue wheel in my blind rage.

    But yeah, to get back on topic: If Lee, Duck, and Clem were in a situation where zombies were bearing down on them: I feel confident that my Lee would be zombie bait so the kids make a break for it. If Kenny, Duck, and Clem were in the same situation, I'm pretty sure that Clem is getting tripped and left for dead.

    No matter how much Kenny makes comments about how protecting children is what "real men do", Duck will always be his priority. And that's okay. Clem is mine. I just think we'll make different sacrifices to ensure the survival of the people we care about.
  • edited June 2012
    If we junped from the end of episdoe one right to this point i might have helped kill Larry, but a lot happened between me and Larry in episode 2 that changed my views on him. When Mark asked me why he was a such an asshole to me i said its because hes looking out for Lily, this came out in conversation later and larry gave a halfass apologie (which is a lot comming from larry) also he saved my life, while giving him the axe is determinant he still could have let me die then kill the zombie, or accidentally kill me. After my conversation with Lily about him being hardened and loosing everyone but Lily i also understood more about him. Finally in the meat locker i said i wasent his enemy as and he responded as if im a threat. My reasoning behind this is that Larry only sees Lee as a threat becasue of his murder and fears that he might do something to harm anyone, i had a feeling that if you saved his life his tune twords lee would have changed, especially if he found out Kenny wanted to smash his head in and Lee defended him instead of getting rid of (in my case) the only person who knows about his past. As much of an asshole Larry was his death hit me hard, he will be missed
  • edited June 2012
    Confirmed by a developer/moderator in another thread. If you perform CPR quickly enough, Larry does breathe in.

    I chose to 'save' Larry. It was a huge defining moment for Lee and Kenny, who until that point had been very close. All through episode one, I found myself siding with Kenny. Episode 2, I started sympathizing with Lily. Larry never meant anything to me personally-- but he wasn't dead yet.

    I didn't care who was the group leader, I didn't really care who my friends were and weren't-- Larry wasn't dead yet. If we could save him by trying CPR for a few minutes, then we had one more asset in the long run.

    I thought Kenny was out of line, but I'm not calling for his head. The group has had enough time to adapt to the new world and figure out where they stand on issues of moral complexity. I'm not about to begrudge Kenny for being willing to make calls that I (and by extension Lee) wouldn't make. I just think it's becoming time for the group to recognize where they stand on certain issues and break off if necessary.

    Edited to add: I'm also sure that if it comes down to Duck or Clem, Kenny will find the next salt lick and personally write Clem's name on it. Between running from Shawn in Ep 1, to killing a member of our group who breathed in after CPR, I have no doubts where Kenny will fall when it comes to anything involving the safety of his son. The safety of the group is not Kenny's priority, and I would very much like to leave Kenny's company as soon as possible. For Clem's safety.

    heed Herschels warnings :D
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