***** was still alive!!!!!!! /SPOILERS

edited August 2012 in The Walking Dead
So I was doing a second playthrough of Ep 2 last night and I noticed closely that Larry was still alive, he was talking in his breath before Kenny smashed his head and brains in.

Sorry if I'm late on this just noticed this!
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  • edited July 2012
    how could be breath with no pulse or hearth beat? :)
  • edited July 2012
    Cornson wrote: »
    how could be breath with no pulse or hearth beat? :)

    Just cause you can't feel a pulse doesn't mean it isn't there, if it's weak or you're taking it from the wrong spot. And it's already been confirmed by TTG that Larry does infact breathe if you do CPR quick enough.
  • edited July 2012
    Jonttu1 wrote: »
    Just cause you can't feel a pulse doesn't mean it isn't there, if it's weak or you're taking it from the wrong spot. And it's already been confirmed by TTG that Larry does infact breathe if you do CPR quick enough.
    No pulse on the wrist simply means the systolic blood pressure is below 100.

    But Larry was dead. A heart attack that severe(Unconcious and not breathing after 3 seconds?) and you need a defibrillator to restart the heart. You can do CPR all you want, its not gonna make a difference.
  • edited July 2012
    Isn't the real question: Were those the dying breaths of human Larry or the first breaths of zombie Larry?
  • edited July 2012
    2 things:

    Telltale did say that they put Larry being briefly revived into the game as an Easter egg, so the argument kinda doesn't even exist... Do CPR well, he's alive.

    Second, not everyone has played through ep two. You probably shouldn't put a huge spoiler as your thread title...
  • edited July 2012
    Mermaid wrote: »
    Isn't the real question: Were those the dying breaths of human Larry or the first breaths of zombie Larry?

    Good call!
  • MarkDarinMarkDarin Former Telltale Staff
    edited July 2012
    Mermaid wrote: »
    Isn't the real question: Were those the dying breaths of human Larry or the first breaths of zombie Larry?

    That is exactly the question I was trying to raise there. Good catch!
  • edited July 2012
    Reaver_88 wrote: »
    Telltale did say that they put Larry being briefly revived into the game as an Easter egg, so the argument kinda doesn't even exist... Do CPR well, he's alive.

    Again.
    A heart attack that severe and Larry is gone, that heart stopped for a reason.
    It doesnt matter how well you do CPR without a defibrillator. Unless walking dead is like those 80's hospital tv shows...
  • BSMBSM
    edited July 2012
    I could swear that I saw him open his eyes and mouth, briefly, before Kenny a-salted (sorry) him.
  • edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    Again.
    A heart attack that severe and Larry is gone, that heart stopped for a reason.
    It doesnt matter how well you do CPR without a defibrillator. Unless walking dead is like those 80's hospital tv shows...

    This is most definitely true, but it's a video game with zombies... Think I can suspend my disbelief to the degree that CPR could save him...
  • edited July 2012
    i played it two different times, well my girl played one.

    first time, she wasnt tapping X quick enough and kenny dropped it on larry

    second time, i played and tapped X immediately, larry took a gasp for air (his mouth opens and chest moves) then kenny dropped the salt brick on him anyways. pissed me off so much that im going to murder kenny and his family if i get the chance
  • edited July 2012
    BSM wrote: »
    I could swear that I saw him open his eyes and mouth, briefly, before Kenny a-salted (sorry) him.

    So he became a zombie then.
  • edited July 2012
    Mermaid wrote: »
    Isn't the real question: Were those the dying breaths of human Larry or the first breaths of zombie Larry?

    either way, kenny could have waited the extra 30 seconds to find out.

    hell, just use a belt to tie up his legs.
  • edited July 2012
    marcu5 wrote: »
    either way, kenny could have waited the extra 30 seconds to find out.

    hell, just use a belt to tie up his legs.

    A salt lick is a bad weapon for a moving target - and his head would have moved with noone daring to hold it in place.
  • edited July 2012
    Mermaid wrote: »
    A salt lick is a bad weapon for a moving target - and his head would have moved with noone daring to hold it in place.

    i disagree. only takes a few seconds to see if the person awakening is a zombie or human. you can't move much with your legs bound. the way i see it, kenny is a murderer. i wish i had the option to do something similar to duck when everyone thought he was bit.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited July 2012
    Do zombies even breathe? Well, I assume that a lot of the sounds they make are somehow related to heavy breathing, so, OK. ;)
  • edited July 2012
    Do zombies even breathe? Well, I assume that a lot of the sounds they make are somehow related to heavy breathing, so, OK. ;)

    LeChuck did a lot of breathing as a zombie - and he even talked!
    So does Mona in A Vampyre Story (assuming zombies and vampires are pretty much alike ;) )
  • edited July 2012
    You killed my larry!!!
  • edited July 2012
    did someone try not to choose between kenny and lily (letting the time pass)? what happens then?
  • edited July 2012
    Cornson wrote: »
    how could be breath with no pulse or hearth beat? :)

    who are we to guess she was measuring it properly? seems like she was even doing cpr wrong because soon as i started; he gasped for air
  • edited July 2012
    big-augen wrote: »
    did someone try not to choose between kenny and lily (letting the time pass)? what happens then?

    If you let the timer run out, Kenny pushes you out of the way and drops the saltlick on his head.

    I think if you play it out this way they are both upset with you, but I didn't play it out far enough to see who helps you against the first brother or whether Lilly will shoot the 2nd brother when he's trying to push your face onto the electric fence.
  • edited July 2012
    marcu5 wrote: »
    i played it two different times, well my girl played one.

    first time, she wasnt tapping X quick enough and kenny dropped it on larry

    second time, i played and tapped X immediately, larry took a gasp for air (his mouth opens and chest moves) then kenny dropped the salt brick on him anyways. pissed me off so much that im going to murder kenny and his family if i get the chance

    You'd kill a kid for something his dad did? He wasn't even there nor the wife, and I thought we had gone past the whole "Sins of the father" thing centuries ago... :P
  • edited July 2012
    larry was alive and wasn't a zombie, because his skin wasn't greyish like when the teacher/student died in the truck.


    i didn't knew what to say when i tried to give CPR to the guy and i just saw a salt lick falling on my left lol.
  • edited July 2012
    Do zombies even breathe? Well, I assume that a lot of the sounds they make are somehow related to heavy breathing, so, OK. ;)

    I think they do - they mumble and growl a bit... so must have been some kind of breathing there. :D
  • edited July 2012
    L O L, i tried to resussitate Larry when kenny came along a whoop, blood and brains everywhere, all over the floor and all over lilly, i laughed so hard :)
  • edited July 2012
    Jazzy wrote: »
    You'd kill a kid for something his dad did? He wasn't even there nor the wife, and I thought we had gone past the whole "Sins of the father" thing centuries ago... :P

    no, i'd kill the kid because he's slow as rocks and got herschels son killed; thus getting us kicked off the farm
  • edited July 2012
    I keep seeing you guys say that larry had no pulse and that was no saided in the converstation. Lilly said "he stopped breathing and he had a heart attack" Lee ask's " is he breathing and lilly says no i don't think so then lee say keep and eye on his pulse" and starts working on him and kenny does his dick move. where in that conversation did they say he had no pulse. No where
  • edited July 2012
    Saylenia wrote: »
    I keep seeing you guys say that larry had no pulse and that was no saided in the converstation. Lilly said "he stopped breathing and he had a heart attack" Lee ask's " is he breathing and lilly says no i don't think so then lee say keep and eye on his pulse" and starts working on him and kenny does his dick move. where in that conversation did they say he had no pulse. No where

    If he had a severe enough heart attack that he was no longer breathing, we can assume he has no pulse. Otherwise, the chest compressions from CPR would have been useless.

    If the only thing that was wrong with him was that his heart beat was arrhythmic, then he would have eventually died anyway, because we didn't have a defribillator.
  • edited July 2012
    big-augen wrote: »
    did someone try not to choose between kenny and lily (letting the time pass)? what happens then?

    It's pretty much the same as siding with Lily. Kenny still kills Larry on his own, he's still pissed at Lee, and Lily still has your back from that point on. I suppose there could be more repercussions Lily-wise in future episodes, but there aren't any in this one.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    i really hope that i have to choose romantically between lily and carley if she's alive because i'm good friends with both on my third playthrough the Fuck kenny playthrough
  • edited July 2012
    Jazzy wrote: »
    You'd kill a kid for something his dad did? He wasn't even there nor the wife, and I thought we had gone past the whole "Sins of the father" thing centuries ago... :P

    Hell, I'd kill Duck just to spare myself from having to take an Excedrin as result of his "nails on a chalkboard" voice. The fact I'd be sparing a bunch of other people from having to take excedrin? Bonus!

    "Oh damn Kenny, sorry man, I thought he was a Walker that was huffing a tank of helium for fun"

    Besides, I'm not at all convinced Duck's a kid. My theory is that he's actually all of the entropy and nightmarish horror of a zombie apocalypse in corporeal form.
  • JenniferJennifer Moderator
    edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    No pulse on the wrist simply means the systolic blood pressure is below 100.

    But Larry was dead. A heart attack that severe(Unconcious and not breathing after 3 seconds?) and you need a defibrillator to restart the heart. You can do CPR all you want, its not gonna make a difference.
    I was unconscious and not breathing for more much longer than three seconds with no heart beat. I was so forgone, I was turning blue. My sister brought me back with CPR, no defibrillator was needed.
  • edited July 2012
    Honestly I think that's what Larry would have wanted... he was so worried about being stuck in the drug store with little tiny Duck.. I think he'd rather have someone smash his brains in than taking the chance he might come back and eat his daughter and who knows who else in the room. Larry was an ass, but he loved his daughter and would do anything to protect her, and wouldn't want to risk coming back and hurting her. If it were Lee or Kenny down there I'm sure he would do the exact same thing without hesitation!
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    i really hope that i have to choose romantically between lily and carley if she's alive because i'm good friends with both on my third playthrough the Fuck kenny playthrough

    Dude, it is really cool in my playthrough on how I started siding with Kenny in episode one, and when they thought Duck was bit, I misclicked on "Let's reason with them!" From then on you could feel tension rising, until the Larry situation, when I completely turned on Kenny for murdering Larry. Now me and Kenny are at each others throats big time.
  • edited July 2012
    I can't believe people think Larry is alive. Am I the only one who saw the salt lick crush his head? There was no chance of LArry reanimating as a zombie because, I thought, Kenny crushed his skull. Did I miss something?
  • edited July 2012
    I can't believe people think Larry is alive. Am I the only one who saw the salt lick crush his head? There was no chance of LArry reanimating as a zombie because, I thought, Kenny crushed his skull. Did I miss something?

    Uhm... no after the salt lick we can all safely assume that he is really dead!

    question is, was he really dead before the salt lick, cause if you do cpr quick enough then he gasps for air just before the salt lick hits his head...

    question is, was he a zombie now or did he regain consciousness. i think he was alive...
  • edited July 2012
    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok....now i get it. yeah he probably was about to reanimate then
  • edited July 2012
    his mouth opens a little like he's taking a breath just before the salt lick crushes his head
  • edited July 2012
    I guess since TTG confirmed that Larry was alive (I didn't see the confirmation, but I guess others did) he wasn't quite dead yet. Kenny jumped the gun, it would've been the right call if you knew you couldn't revive him, but even if you have a heart attack you don't just die. If that were the case, no one would ever need to get the paddles because you just declare him dead on the spot.

    I don't think I'm going hold it over Kenny, but he does need to relax. The tension he is causing is bad for the group.
  • edited July 2012
    larry was alive and wasn't a zombie, because his skin wasn't greyish like when the teacher/student died in the truck.


    i didn't knew what to say when i tried to give CPR to the guy and i just saw a salt lick falling on my left lol.

    Huge difference between Larry and the teacher/student.

    Teacher - leg chopped off, Student - Shot

    Both of those guys bled out, which I'm assuming was the cause of the greyish color.

    Larry wasn't "dead" long enough for his skin to change colors.

    Also. To me it doesn't really matter if he was dead or not. You can't take the chance and be locked in a freezer with Zombified Larry.
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