So, how are you raising Clementine? [Spoilers]

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  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    how many is a lot, in your eyes?

    "over nine thousand"
  • edited July 2012
    How many is a lot, in your eyes?

    All of them, hopefully. It's heavily implied they raped a little girl. I don't think my Lee can sit still knowing that.
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    All of them, hopefully. It's heavily implied they raped a little girl. I don't think my Lee can sit still knowing that.

    My Lee can sit very still knowing that.

    Because my Lee knows that a axe is not going to win against arrows and shotguns.
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    My Lee can sit very still knowing that.

    Because my Lee knows that a axe is not going to win against arrows and shotguns.

    My lee can grab a Gun... besides, an Axe can be better if you Stealth it up. (Which, I think, might be how it'd go down if you could take them all on.)
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Jolenes hunted most of them down.
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    Pretty much badass tough survivor Clem.

    So many people are still in denial! lol.
  • edited July 2012
    Zombieface wrote: »
    Pretty much badass tough survivor Clem.

    So many people are still in denial! lol.

    If I'd put badass in the title, I bet more people would have voted for it...
  • edited July 2012
    My lee can grab a Gun... besides, an Axe can be better if you Stealth it up. (Which, I think, might be how it'd go down if you could take them all on.)

    True. But I'd like to point out that A) I've only seen them with rifles (wait, was it a rifle that bandit shot his friend with?) and crossbows, not shotguns. B) You'll probably have a choice between taking on their main base or passing by them...

    Besides, if Lee turns into Rambo, they group might not trust him...
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Clem will survive but what her role in the future society will be is the question. could Caring K.I.Q.C.S. be preventing Clem from becoming Queen by trying to treat her like a daughter and not a future queen?
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    True. But I'd like to point out that A) I've only seen them with rifles (wait, was it a rifle that bandit shot his friend with?) and crossbows, not shotguns. B) You'll probably have a choice between taking on their main base or passing by them...

    Besides, if Lee turns into Rambo, they group might not trust him...

    The bandit killed his friend with a Shotgun. I remember it clearly because of a fave commentators "Shotgun Rain" reply to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5ICO6nAn04&feature=relmfu
    (Starts at 1:36)

    Besides, Lee's stated that Lilly keeps them on training schedules. Also, if you have Lee head shot Jolene, it's with a Hunting Rifle. And the weapon Lee uses to kill a Bandit in the Episode 3 trailer is a Hunting Rifle.

    PS: Lee already IS Rambo.
    CapnJay wrote: »
    Clem will survive but what her role in the future society will be is the question. could Caring K.I.Q.C.S. be preventing Clem from becoming Queen by trying to treat her like a daughter and not a future queen?

    Yeah, I'd say the Ruthless route will prepare her to be a REAL Queen some day. XD
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    Clem will survive but what her role in the future society will be is the question. could Caring K.I.Q.C.S. be preventing Clem from becoming Queen by trying to treat her like a daughter and not a future queen?

    It comes down to whether you want her to be Margaret Thatcher or a dainty little princess.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    It comes down to whether you want her to be Margaret Thatcher or a dainty little princess.

    Wendy from Rule of Rose!
  • edited July 2012
    I/my Lee acts the same around Clem as I do around kids in real life - I won't lie. I lack that kiddie sensor that parents have and just come right out with what I'm thinking. I don't swear, but there's no sugar coating. I have Lee be a decent person that knows the world has gone to pot, but has hope for the future and hope that Clem is starting to feel the same.
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    reno2200 wrote: »
    I/my Lee acts the same around Clem as I do around kids in real life - I won't lie. I lack that kiddie sensor that parents have and just come right out with what I'm thinking. I don't swear, but there's no sugar coating. I have Lee be a decent person that knows the world has gone to pot, but has hope for the future and hope that Clem is starting to feel the same.

    Feel the same way. I know that the world is overrun, but still give hope to Clem.
  • edited July 2012
    My lee can grab a Gun... besides, an Axe can be better if you Stealth it up. (Which, I think, might be how it'd go down if you could take them all on.)

    Pfff, they already shoot each other in the face with shotguns, and we know we're not staying at the Inn forever. If I had the option when it came time to leave, I'd just have the group quietly slip out and leave the bandits to rape and murder each other rather than obligingly offering myself, Clem-Clem and the rest of the group as new targets for the lot of them. Discretion is the better part of valor and all, it's not very pragmatic to step in their mess if you don't need to.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Clementine and Mathilda from the Professional are Complete Opposites just something i noticed today
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    CapnJay wrote: »
    Clementine and Mathilda from the Professional are Complete Opposites just something i noticed today

    I was watching that movie about 10 minutes ago! Scary! And it was Leon the Professional :)
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    @BlackmesaExp

    I guess you concede the point that Lee can handle himself in a gunfight? :p
  • edited July 2012
    @BlackmesaExp

    I guess you concede the point that Lee can handle himself in a gunfight? :p

    Danny says that Lee knows how to handle himself, so I guess it's an accepted truth...
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    I was watching that movie about 10 minutes ago! Scary! And it was Leon the Professional :)

    not on Crackle:p
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    not on Crackle:p

    Really? Interesting - particularily since it was originally called just Leon...
    *sprays potted plant*
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Last comment on the professional till back to Clem

    Natalie Portman has never been a better actress then in that movie
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    Last comment on the professional till back to Clem

    Natalie Portman has never been a better actress then in that movie

    Her voice got on my nerves a little bit due to it sounding childish - how old was she supposed to be (I know she lied to Leon) ?

    If Clem was a boy, would we still form a strong attachment with him? And what woul his name be?
  • edited July 2012
    At first i tried to shield her but after watching Lee murder the Brothers St John, and Kenny dropping that block on Larry's face, i don't she'll be the same again.

    I convinced her that we should take the food cause i figured who ever owned the car is likely long dead.

    It definitely felt good to shove that rusty pitch fork in to that Martin Sheen/Illusive Man look-a-like's heart.
  • edited July 2012
    Jedted wrote: »
    It definitely felt good to shove that rusty pitch fork in to that Martin Sheen/Illusive Man look-a-like's heart.

    I haven't done it - is it really that satisfying?
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Her voice got on my nerves a little bit due to it sounding childish - how old was she supposed to be (I know she lied to Leon) ?

    If Clem was a boy, would we still form a strong attachment with him? And what woul his name be?

    Clementine becomes Clem
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    I haven't done it - is it really that satisfying?

    It is when you picture TIM from Mass Effect. :D When i first saw Danny i though, "Hey it's Martin Sheen!".
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    Clementine becomes Clem

    Hershel: What's your name, boy?
    Clem: Cl-Clem...
    Hershel: Odd name for a boy...
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    When i first heard the "Stargazer" I thought "Didn't i just kill you?"
  • edited July 2012
    So, any chance of a cameo zombie appearance of the brothers?
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    Clem is part of the future generations that need to repopulate and rebuild the world. I feel survivng alone doesn't mean anything if the world you survive in lacks any morals, compassion, forgiveness and love. I want Clem to advocate and experience life with morals and as long as I can protect her and her personality I will.
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    So, any chance of a cameo zombie appearance of the brothers?

    I'm more curious if they come back if you spare them.
  • edited July 2012
    Her voice got on my nerves a little bit due to it sounding childish - how old was she supposed to be (I know she lied to Leon) ?

    If Clem was a boy, would we still form a strong attachment with him? And what woul his name be?

    Honestly, I wouldn't have the same bond. I'm protective of women, but I could care less about men. Hell, my disdain for my own gender is probably why I can hate Duck so much.
    Augurk wrote: »
    Clem is part of the future generations that need to repopulate and rebuild the world. I feel survivng alone doesn't mean anything if the world you survive in lacks any morals, compassion, forgiveness and love. I want Clem to advocate and experience life with morals and as long as I can protect her and her personality I will.

    If you don't survive there will be NO future generations. We didn't start with the morality we have today, we developed it. We'll just have to redevelop it as a species.
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    Jedted wrote: »
    I'm more curious if they come back if you spare them.

    As in, alive? At best Danny could have been saved by a quick-thinking Andy fighting of walkers and giving him anesthesia, but I think that they'll both be zombies - when you stab Danny, you stab him in the chest, so he'd become a walker. Killing Andy makes it a 50-50 change of zombification to me...
  • edited July 2012
    If you don't survive there will be NO future generations. We didn't start with the morality we have today, we developed it. We'll just have to redevelop it as a species.

    So you're saying to survive we must first become more savage/oppurtunistic?
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    So you're saying to survive we must first become more savage/oppurtunistic?

    In that world? Yes... Look at the groups that are Thriving, and Compare them to the groups Struggling. The more you cling to the old ways, the more you struggle.
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    In that world? Yes... Look at the groups that are Thriving, and Compare them to the groups Struggling. The more you cling to the old ways, the more you struggle.

    So we have to change to go forward? Instead of devolving (a step backward) we're simply changing (a diagonal evolutionary step).

    Technically, we can't devolve (even if we revert to being "savages") as each child undergoes 200 more mutations than their parents (one of which created red hair)...
  • edited July 2012
    Personally, I'm going for a über-good Clem, who has an excellent moral compass, and who sees my Lee as someone that never steals or jabs people with pitchforks - admittedly, that means she's not very pragmatic, but at least I'm not a monster in her eyes.

    Ya, that world is never coming back, to raise her like that she just ends up starving and/or dead. She needs to learn how to live in this new world. Being opportunistic and looking out of self/group is part of that. I havent told her that her parents are dead yet just because Im not certain if the mom made it out but if she asks I'll tell her the truth, as gently as possible, but honestly
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Xarne wrote: »
    Ya, that world is never coming back, to raise her like that she just ends up starving and/or dead. She needs to learn how to live in this new world. Being opportunistic and looking out of self/group is part of that. I havent told her that her parents are dead yet just because Im not certain if the mom made it out but if she asks I'll tell her the truth, as gently as possible, but honestly

    The World as we knew it is gone. Much like Earth after The Miracle Day {which coincidentally is the exact opposite of The Walking Dead since nobody dies] However unlike Miracle day Jack Harkness {that magnificent bastard] will not be curing the world of the Walkers. However that doesn't mean that things can't get back to Like normal. Cops dispatched to to accidents are also sent to dispatch anyone who turns
  • edited July 2012
    So we have to change to go forward? Instead of devolving (a step backward) we're simply changing (a diagonal evolutionary step).

    Technically, we can't devolve (even if we revert to being "savages") as each child undergoes 200 more mutations than their parents (one of which created red hair)...


    I'd say trying to hold on to the past would be a step back. Surviving is the only way forward. Maybe keep some primitive Honor system, with a bendable sense of morality.
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