Yeah I noticed the screen turning red, the same way it does behind the tractor when the bandits shot arrows and at the motor inn when looking at walkers.
Figure if you dilly dally she eats the meat and "dies" or in other words it has such a hard psychological impact on her that it would alter the game in such a way that its no longer the innocent girl you met at first. A lack of protection on Lee's part.
Hard to be a innocent little girl and a cannibal at the same time.
If you let Clem eat the meat, she asks Lee if she will turn into a zombie. Lee explains that's not how it works.
It has been mentioned that they see people's life force...
Maybe they're just really good in that field - walkers, masters of sight, smell and hearing! Clarifying, telling fortunes, parting the veil of the universe's mysteries!
MIght be a second career for them - except they'd work for fresh meat, not for money. Hahaha...
In much of the death scenes of the comics we don't acctually see the kids dying... (spoilers) In Judith, we see a lot of blood, but it's presumed that all that blood it's Lori's. We don't see Duane, Penny or Ben dying. We actually see Ron being bitten. But not a lot of blood. And Billy....damn... we see is deadbody, but not a lot of details... My point: Children can die... Just not much violence, not too many deatails... and low on gore and blood. If a kid dies in the comics, we only see some pictures. If a kid dies on Tv or on the game, we see a video. It's more gross and violent. So if any of the kids die, it wouldn't be shown. Or the kid shows up dead or undead, or we just hear the kid yelling and zombies bitting him.
In much of the death scenes of the comics we don't acctually see the kids dying...
In Judith, we see a lot of blood, but it's presumed that all that blood it's Lori's. We don't see Duane, Penny or Ben dying. We actually see Ron being bitten. But not a lot of blood. And Billy....damn... we see is deadbody, but not a lot of details... [/spoilers] My point: Children can die... Just not much violence, not too many deatails... and low on gore and blood. If a kid dies in the comics, we only see some pictures. If a kid dies on Tv or on the game, we see a video. It's more gross and violent. So if any of the kids die, it wouldn't be shown. Or the kid shows up dead or undead, or we just hear the kid yelling and zombies bitting him.
The first scene in the Walking Dead tv show with the little girl walker, got me hooked. Scenes like that and the one with Sophia, I think are more emotional than actually seeing a kid get killed by zombies.
but do you think they would have ever had her attack one of them and make them bash her brains in with a rock or something? that would be to much, even for the walking dead wouldn't it?
No, I don’t think they would ever have written that scene as her attacking any of the group and them having to brutally kill her. And she was put down in the humane way possible. If Clementine was infected, I suspect Lee would step up do the same w/ her.
But there’s got to be another reason that zombie children are not represented other than the thinking that a TV show/comic/game w/ zombified kiddos might be socially unacceptable?
Likewise, I'm pretty sure we'll see an undead kid at some point, they just tend to be uncommon for some reason aside from squeamishness (personally, my rationalization is that when a group of zombies gets through with them, there's just not enough to come back/be mobile). We see zombie kids in the show, but we don't see them as part of the herd in Atlanta or during the Season 2 finale.
Games have had undead kids before (Dead Space), so it's not without precedent.
The first undead kid we should see is Duck - hell, it may even improve his IQ by a few points. It honestly seems implausible to me that it hasn't happened already, he strikes me as the sort of kid that if you turned around and stopped minding him for even a second, he'd up and drink Draino (seriously, he's the only one in the group who asks what he ate after you tell them it's fresh Mark legs).
I kinda have a feeling Kenny's whole "that was different, Duck wasn't bitten" spiel in the locker is going to bite him in the ass (maybe literally).
Likewise, I'm pretty sure we'll see an undead kid at some point, they just tend to be uncommon for some reason aside from squeamishness (personally, my rationalization is that when a group of zombies gets through with them, there's just not enough to come back/be mobile). We see zombie kids in the show, but we don't see them as part of the herd in Atlanta or during the Season 2 finale.
Games have had undead kids before (Dead Space), so it's not without precedent.
The first undead kid we should see is Duck - hell, it may even improve his IQ by a few points. It honestly seems implausible to me that it hasn't happened already, he strikes me as the sort of kid that if you turned around and stopped minding him for even a second, he'd up and drink Draino (seriously, he's the only one in the group who asks what he ate after you tell them it's fresh Mark legs)....
MMMMMM, Fresh Mark Legs Ohmnomnom!! Can I get some Face to go with that? Maybe a little bath salt for flavor?
I kinda have a feeling Kenny's whole "that was different, Duck wasn't bitten" spiel in the locker is going to bite him in the ass (maybe literally).
Noooo thanks, I drawn the line at Kenny's ass....uck!!
i had a thought about why there are so few zombie children, and it may be because they are the easiest to overpower/kill, so the odds are that out of all the times people have killed zombies a lot of them would be the weaker zombies like children or ones with missing limbs
I want it to be graphic like the killing of Lee's brother and the chopping of the leg for the band teacher.
Lee brother was already a zombie so he had to kill him as for the teacher he was already zombie food if they didn't so I think they had to cut it off that if you wanted to save him.
Likewise, I'm pretty sure we'll see an undead kid at some point, they just tend to be uncommon for some reason aside from squeamishness (personally, my rationalization is that when a group of zombies gets through with them, there's just not enough to come back/be mobile). We see zombie kids in the show, but we don't see them as part of the herd in Atlanta or during the Season 2 finale.
Games have had undead kids before (Dead Space), so it's not without precedent.
The first undead kid we should see is Duck - hell, it may even improve his IQ by a few points. It honestly seems implausible to me that it hasn't happened already, he strikes me as the sort of kid that if you turned around and stopped minding him for even a second, he'd up and drink Draino (seriously, he's the only one in the group who asks what he ate after you tell them it's fresh Mark legs).
I kinda have a feeling Kenny's whole "that was different, Duck wasn't bitten" spiel in the locker is going to bite him in the ass (maybe literally).
If this happen, I'll be one of the happiest people alive.
In much of the death scenes of the comics we don't acctually see the kids dying... (spoilers) In Judith, we see a lot of blood, but it's presumed that all that blood it's Lori's. We don't see Duane, Penny or Ben dying. We actually see Ron being bitten. But not a lot of blood. And Billy....damn... we see is deadbody, but not a lot of details... My point: Children can die... Just not much violence, not too many deatails... and low on gore and blood. If a kid dies in the comics, we only see some pictures. If a kid dies on Tv or on the game, we see a video. It's more gross and violent. So if any of the kids die, it wouldn't be shown. Or the kid shows up dead or undead, or we just hear the kid yelling and zombies bitting him.
You're way off man, sorry. Massive comic book spoilers ahead. Edit: Pretty disturbing spoilers too.
It's in no way presumed that it's all Lori's blood, half the baby is missing when that bullet tears through Lori.
Penny has her teeth ripped out so her uncle can make out with her.
You see the decapitated heads of the Greene twins at the prison. It's an incredibly gory scene.
You see Carl have a chunk of the right side of his face blown off.
Ben and Billy's incident isn't really shown as graphically as the rest, but it leads to an important moment for Carl. One that's just as shocking in my opinion.
You're right about Ron. We see him and his mothers death. We watch Rick cut off her hand to free Carl from her grasp too.
Hell, in the first 5 minutes of season one on the T.V. show, Rick shoots a little girl walker in the face. The medium doesn't matter, sometimes a still picture is more powerful than a moving image. I just don't see your point, sorry. Also, sorry about the formatting.
Vain's comment about violence and death being ok while a boob is censored is hilariously true.
You're way off man, sorry. Massive comic book spoilers ahead. Edit: Pretty disturbing spoilers too.
It's in no way presumed that it's all Lori's blood, half the baby is missing when that bullet tears through Lori.
Penny has her teeth ripped out so her uncle can make out with her.
You see the decapitated heads of the Greene twins at the prison. It's an incredibly gory scene.
You see Carl have a chunk of the right side of his face blown off.
Ben and Billy's incident isn't really shown as graphically as the rest, but it leads to an important moment for Carl. One that's just as shocking in my opinion.
You're right about Ron. We see him and his mothers death. We watch Rick cut off her hand to free Carl from her grasp too.
Hell, in the first 5 minutes of season one on the T.V. show, Rick shoots a little girl walker in the face. The medium doesn't matter, sometimes a still picture is more powerful than a moving image. I just don't see your point, sorry. Also, sorry about the formatting.
Vain's comment about violence and death being ok while a boob is censored is hilariously true.
All of this is what I wanted to point out. (Though I'm not sure about half a baby missing).
Regarding Sophia in the TV series - true, we didn't see her get bit, but we saw her as a zombie and we most definitely saw Rick shoot her. It was absolutely heartbreaking.
Rick also shoots a girl zombie holding a stuffed animal in the pilot episode of The Walking Dead. If you're familiar with the comics (which the game's story is based), than the killing of a kid in this game is very likely.
Rick also shoots a girl zombie holding a stuffed animal in the pilot episode of The Walking Dead. If you're familiar with the comics (which the game's story is based), than the killing of a kid in this game is very likely.
My thoughts regarding kids is from an emotional POV. Yes, Rick shoots a little girl zombie right out the gate in the TV series and while I did flinch, I viewed her as a monster so I was ok w/ it. When he had to shoot Sophia that was a whole different story. I’ve watched that episode at least 6 times, and I cry every friggin’ time. (apparently I’m an emotional cutter but whatever) Will TT put us in the position of having to kill a child that’s been a loved part of our group – I hope not. Could I kill a zombified Duck w/o thinking twice? Um, yes. Which makes me what, a hypocrite child zombie killer? I can live w/ that.
I’ve not read the comics – I have Compendium One but haven’t started reading yet (hangs head in shame). And I have zero zombie game experience (or any game experience). My only experience w/ zombies is TWD TV series which I’m a total geek over. I have read enough on this forum to know that TWD comics get into some sick (or ‘sic’, whichever way your boat floats) territory so I’m prepared and curious to see what TT has in store for us.
If Telltale is going to kill a kid, they have to make it shocking and sad. Well, most of the people hate Duck, so his death would be a joy for those people. Unless, if they do like
AMC did with Sophia, using a character that almost never talked, to an incredible scene
. The only kid's death that would be missed, would be Clementine. But there is no way they are going to kill her.
I can imagine TTG sitting with the cast and going "Ok we need to kill one of you. Lee you have to live till at least episode 5 so it's the others Clementine why should you live" Clementine takes off her sunglasses "Besides Boatloads of money?" TTG guy says "Right ok Next"
Imagine the last episode to feature the hardest choice: die yourself (Lee) or Clem will.
Or, one I just thought of.
Imagine the last episode to feature a hard choice: Save Clem or.. save the rest of the group.
Painstaking moral dilemma. I bet Clem would win with me.
yeah, if it was me or Clementine i would choose Clementine, if it was the rest of the group or Clementine i would choose Clementine, who cares about them.
to me that isnt much of a dilemma though.
if it was Clementine or me and the rest of the group, that would be a dilemma because how would she survive alone? i think i would actually choose me and the group that time because its sort of loose loose for Clementine
Death of children is always something game companies are cautious of. Why? because ignorant parents buy games to babysit their kids and in-turn get shocked and mad when something shocking happens.
The AMC tv show isn't allowed to show the death of a child up close. If it was a paid subscription channel like HBO, they would be able to get away with more.
Since we choose to buy each episode, I wouldn't be surprised if a kid died in a gruesome way in the game but I wouldn't be surprised if it was an off-screen moment.
If Telltale is going to kill a kid, they have to make it shocking and sad. Well, most of the people hate Duck, so his death would be a joy for those people. Unless, if they do like
AMC did with Sophia, using a character that almost never talked, to an incredible scene
. The only kid's death that would be missed, would be Clementine. But there is no way they are going to kill her.
Not until episode 5, depending on certain actions taken in raising her, at least.
Now you say they won't kill duck because people hate him, but people hated Larry and he got the Chomp. *Well, he got the Salt Lick.* Yet they still did it so well, that a lot of the people who hated him still tried to save him. (I'm one of those people.)
A little on child death etc: I don't really care if a kid dies or not. I just like the idea of nobody being safe. Also, eventually I would be awesome if Lee and Clementine end up in the same risk zone, really splitting the story, with Lee surviving or not and the same with Clem. So far, at least during 1st episode, it's all about protecting Clem, but eventually, what if you find her parents, hand her over and decide you have other problems to solve that would change the game completely wouldn't it? If season turns out to contain a new storyline, at least I'd like it to have some connection to the current.
Not until episode 5, depending on certain actions taken in raising her, at least.
Now you say they won't kill duck because people hate him, but people hated Larry and he got the Chomp. *Well, he got the Salt Lick.* Yet they still did it so well, that a lot of the people who hated him still tried to save him. (I'm one of those people.)
Exactly. They used one of the most hated characters, and used him to make an incredible scene. Most of the people that hated Larry, tried to help him. If they can make Duck's death shocking, sad and emotional, even for the haters, then I will clap.
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the last part at the drug store, camera pulls away just as she's getting bit.
So the walkers get me a redbull and then eat me so we feed into each others addictions?
If you let Clem eat the meat, she asks Lee if she will turn into a zombie. Lee explains that's not how it works.
Oh, well pfft.
I always hustled down the stairs cause I thought it was "game over" if she took a bite.
MIght be a second career for them - except they'd work for fresh meat, not for money. Hahaha...
You made me think of chocolates for some reason. Yummeh.
i guess that is sort of a death of a child, but unless you see it happen she could have got away, so i wouldnt say it counted as a death (some would)
the look on lee's face, she didn't get away.
The first scene in the Walking Dead tv show with the little girl walker, got me hooked. Scenes like that and the one with Sophia, I think are more emotional than actually seeing a kid get killed by zombies.
because they were all actually midgets
No, I don’t think they would ever have written that scene as her attacking any of the group and them having to brutally kill her. And she was put down in the humane way possible. If Clementine was infected, I suspect Lee would step up do the same w/ her.
But there’s got to be another reason that zombie children are not represented other than the thinking that a TV show/comic/game w/ zombified kiddos might be socially unacceptable?
But these will only be implied, like with Jolenes daughter.
You will never see a child die like Shawn, Doug... etc
And you won't kill any zombified kids either like Travis or David.
Games have had undead kids before (Dead Space), so it's not without precedent.
The first undead kid we should see is Duck - hell, it may even improve his IQ by a few points. It honestly seems implausible to me that it hasn't happened already, he strikes me as the sort of kid that if you turned around and stopped minding him for even a second, he'd up and drink Draino (seriously, he's the only one in the group who asks what he ate after you tell them it's fresh Mark legs).
I kinda have a feeling Kenny's whole "that was different, Duck wasn't bitten" spiel in the locker is going to bite him in the ass (maybe literally).
Noooo thanks, I drawn the line at Kenny's ass....uck!!
Generally, they can do it. They're not even bound by taboo much. Exaggerated violence is way OK as long as there isn't a hint of nipple...
I hope none of the main children die Duck and Clem. I rather have them alive at the end since it would make me upset to see kids die.
If they do just do it off screen so we don't have to witness it maybe just hear screaming or what not.
I want it to be graphic like the killing of Lee's brother and the chopping of the leg for the band teacher.
Lee brother was already a zombie so he had to kill him as for the teacher he was already zombie food if they didn't so I think they had to cut it off that if you wanted to save him.
yeah, i think it would have far more impact if you were involved, an off screen scream would be lame
that reminds me of an asian horror movie about organ transplants.
If this happen, I'll be one of the happiest people alive.
You're way off man, sorry. Massive comic book spoilers ahead. Edit: Pretty disturbing spoilers too.
Hell, in the first 5 minutes of season one on the T.V. show, Rick shoots a little girl walker in the face. The medium doesn't matter, sometimes a still picture is more powerful than a moving image. I just don't see your point, sorry. Also, sorry about the formatting.
Vain's comment about violence and death being ok while a boob is censored is hilariously true.
All of this is what I wanted to point out. (Though I'm not sure about half a baby missing).
It was a bit of an exaggeration. It's more like a third, heh. You know it's bad because the blanket has pieces flying everywhere.
http://images.wikia.com/walkingdead/images/1/14/WD-_012.jpg
Rick also shoots a girl zombie holding a stuffed animal in the pilot episode of The Walking Dead. If you're familiar with the comics (which the game's story is based), than the killing of a kid in this game is very likely.
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My thoughts regarding kids is from an emotional POV. Yes, Rick shoots a little girl zombie right out the gate in the TV series and while I did flinch, I viewed her as a monster so I was ok w/ it. When he had to shoot Sophia that was a whole different story. I’ve watched that episode at least 6 times, and I cry every friggin’ time. (apparently I’m an emotional cutter but whatever) Will TT put us in the position of having to kill a child that’s been a loved part of our group – I hope not. Could I kill a zombified Duck w/o thinking twice? Um, yes. Which makes me what, a hypocrite child zombie killer? I can live w/ that.
I’ve not read the comics – I have Compendium One but haven’t started reading yet (hangs head in shame). And I have zero zombie game experience (or any game experience). My only experience w/ zombies is TWD TV series which I’m a total geek over. I have read enough on this forum to know that TWD comics get into some sick (or ‘sic’, whichever way your boat floats) territory so I’m prepared and curious to see what TT has in store for us.
Imagine the last episode to feature the hardest choice: die yourself (Lee) or Clem will.
Or, one I just thought of.
Imagine the last episode to feature a hard choice: Save Clem or.. save the rest of the group.
Painstaking moral dillemma. I bet Clem would win with me.
yeah, if it was me or Clementine i would choose Clementine, if it was the rest of the group or Clementine i would choose Clementine, who cares about them.
to me that isnt much of a dilemma though.
if it was Clementine or me and the rest of the group, that would be a dilemma because how would she survive alone? i think i would actually choose me and the group that time because its sort of loose loose for Clementine
Plus you hear the bites.
The AMC tv show isn't allowed to show the death of a child up close. If it was a paid subscription channel like HBO, they would be able to get away with more.
Since we choose to buy each episode, I wouldn't be surprised if a kid died in a gruesome way in the game but I wouldn't be surprised if it was an off-screen moment.
Not until episode 5, depending on certain actions taken in raising her, at least.
Now you say they won't kill duck because people hate him, but people hated Larry and he got the Chomp. *Well, he got the Salt Lick.* Yet they still did it so well, that a lot of the people who hated him still tried to save him. (I'm one of those people.)