Why do people want "Season 2" to be Lee and Clementine still?

edited September 2012 in The Walking Dead
Do you not see the writing and original characters they had in these episodes so far? Wouldn't you want new characters and a awesome new scenario?

Why drag on the same story for so long that it's dead and no good anymore? I can see you wanting it now but when it's released I wouldn't be surprised to see 100s of people here whining.

I think Lee has had a long road and deserves a epic ending for episode 5.

Also remember this IS The Walking Dead you can't expect a "Lee AND Clementine" if they will even be in season 2.

Come on wouldn't it be awesome to see other comic characters? Morgan and Duane after him and Rick split up. Fight side by side with Sgt. Abraham?
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  • edited September 2012
    To be perfectly honest I'm kind of over the walking dead comics. There are only so many times you can watch the world shit on somebody before you start wondering what the point is.

    I'd rather just have standalone storylines with different groups of survivors trying to make their way to a safe zone every year than watch the Lee/Clem storyline drag out.
  • edited September 2012
    No, I wouldn't want new main characters for season 2. That's just me, though. I love the drama between Lee and Clementine. I want their story to continue into a new season. It would be nice to meet other characters in season 2 while playing as Lee.
  • edited September 2012
    I want new characters for season 2. Not having to make sure that Lee and Clementine are in Season 2 gives them the freedom to take the ending of this season in any direction they want.
  • edited September 2012
    I wouldn't expect them to be in season 2. The story of Lee and his relationship with Clementine will probably be fully explored and drawn to a conclusion by the end of the first season. Plus with the multiple endings that will (presumably) be at the end of the first season, keeping them for season 2 would be very difficult.
  • edited September 2012
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSLQhj4YF34

    In this interview, it was stated that your saves from season 1 will affect what you do in season 2. Hopefully this means that Lee and Clem are returning.
  • edited September 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSLQhj4YF34

    In this interview, it was stated that your saves from season 1 will affect what you do in season 2. Hopefully this means that Lee and Clem are returning.

    i hope that mean there will be hints and evidence of he first season, but not meaning it will be the same characters
  • edited September 2012
    I am attached to Clem and Lee... the comics have been going on forever with Rick and Carl, why can't Clem and Lee stay alive?
    Saying this, I also would like to see new characters. I wouldn't be upset if season 1 ends with a nice ending for Lee and Clementine. As long as season 2 references season 1, and somehow ties into the comics again, I will be happy. Falling in love with new characters that still tie into the ones we already love makes a fantastic new game.
  • edited September 2012
    Since it was stated that the second season will be influenced by saves from the first, I'm guessing Lee and/or Clem will be in the next season. Personally, I would be fine with that, I'd like new main characters eventually, but not just yet.
  • N7.N7.
    edited September 2012
    Because Lee and Clem are awesome
  • edited September 2012
    I'll be surprised if it's both of them. I like the idea of stand alone stories, but I suppose it may sell more games if they're interdependent.
  • edited September 2012
    Why are you intimidated by how it will end and how season 2 will look like ? Don't you think on the contrary of what might happen ?

    What I mean is that how can you be so certain that Lee would be the main character in season 2 ? Can't it be that maybe they're gonna introduce a new character as the main, while Lee and Clementine might be just a pawn in the game like Kenny, lily etc were!!!! Take PREY for example.....The main character Tommy in prey 1 became just an ordinary character you could just talk to. I don't like Prey 2 as it sucks since they introduced a new character as the main and as how the gameplay is
  • mz3mz3
    edited September 2012
    Intimate relationship between clem and lee
  • edited September 2012
    mz3 wrote: »
    Intimate relationship between clem and lee
    creepy but i laughed a bit when i saw your posts number being 69 :o.

    Thinking about the walking dead and it not really gonna end happy, Im expecting season 2 to have a different group of survivors somewhere else that also are trying to survive the apocalypse and hopefuly come off likeable like lee and clementine. Im not saying i want lee or clementine to die because i hope they survive the last episode, im just thinking that we might see others who try to survive.
  • edited September 2012
    No I wouldn't. People would whine at first about the new characters but pretty soon they'd grow to love them just as much.

    I call it the "Doctor Who mentality".
  • edited September 2012
    I want new people.

    New situations.

    New problems.
  • edited September 2012
    Im for Lee and Clem maybe Kenny also if he alive an act right lol:D
  • edited September 2012
    Perhaps we will play as Christa who had gave birth and/or we will see Lilly back.
  • edited September 2012
    FoxxyFox wrote: »
    Perhaps we will play as Christa who had gave birth and/or we will see Lilly back.

    It would interesting to see Lee and Clem back in season 2 and meet Lilly after what happened to her at the prison.
  • edited September 2012
    I like Dave Fennoys voice. That's why I'd like Lee to continue being the main character.

    *Mimics Dave*
    "Previously on The Walking Dead."
    "Hmmmm"
    "It's nothing"
  • edited September 2012
    People have grown attached to them; really nothing more to it than that. I personally would like them to go through increasingly difficult situations that truly test their morals and relationship to one another rather than getting to know another set of people. Compared to the comic, Lee and Clem have yet to be truly tested the way Rick and his group has. Perhaps that will change in the last two episodes, but I would welcome another season with Lee and Clem.
  • edited September 2012
    Personally I think Lee and Clem should be the main characters in season 2.

    We are introduced to them as the main characters in the entire story, we have gotten to know them and make all of our decisions based on them.

    We also know that all of our season 1 choices will be carried over to season 2, so we know they will survive, but maybe at some point during season 2 something could change.. Maybe Lee die and we continue playing as Clem as the main character.
  • edited September 2012
    WowMutt wrote: »
    Personally I think Lee and Clem should be the main characters in season 2.

    We are introduced to them as the main characters in the entire story, we have gotten to know them and make all of our decisions based on them.

    We also know that all of our season 1 choices will be carried over to season 2, so we know they will survive, but maybe at some point during season 2 something could change.. Maybe Lee die and we continue playing as Clem as the main character.

    unless we meet a super nice Lee replacement straight away Clementine would be in so much danger all the time, who could she trust, how would she survive?
  • edited September 2012
    so we get characters we've seen before so far (ep3) we the player have suffered with lee and clem.

    some of us have bonded with them, some of us want to keep them safe and see them again, to see if they make it...it's called closure to live it is better than to have one scene with an npc or some random dialogue with some randomn survivor who in 2 lines sums up the fate of lee and clem..
  • edited September 2012
    While we're at it, how come everyone wants Nathan Drake in the next Uncharted game. And how come all the Indian Jones movies have Indian Jones in them?? What's that about? Or how come that show Bones still only has those same characters after so long? When is Booth going to die or something, I mean, he is an FBI agent right? They die all the time in movies and junk. After all... clearly it's stupid to keep anyone around for more than 1 season in a series of things. ;)

    Joking aside, the reason is several parts. One reason from a writing perspective is that it is easier to build on the story than make a new one and grow old character's in new ways. From a viewer standpoint, it's easier to care from the start for someone you already care for and keeping characters does not make it less accessible to new people either, it's a win win in that regard. Also, with a high turnover rate for characters as it is there is a need within viewers for some kind of permanence, if everyone is always dead by the end of the season then what's the point? You get numb to it when it happens all the time to everyone and then you move on to something new.

    The fact is that if they plan to keep this game going for a long time, more than two seasons they need something to have it all center on, and that's the Lee/Clem relationship. Especially if you think of her growing up as the game goes on. Now if they only want two season (maybe three) then it's still better to keep Clem and Lee into season two, because it's will make it more shocking if they die at the end of two season, but if they kill (or just move on from) them now then everyone playing season two will not invest as much, they wont care about the characters. We already see this happening, With Doug and Carley, everyone is guessing that Chuck and Omid and Christa are just walker bait or at least doomed in some other way. Could you see a successful show or game where they invoked that same feeling with the main characters... and could you even call them main characters if they die so quick?
  • edited September 2012
    While we're at it, how come everyone wants Nathan Drake in the next Uncharted game. And how come all the Indian Jones movies have Indian Jones in them?? What's that about? Or how come that show Bones still only has those same characters after so long? When is Booth going to die or something, I mean, he is an FBI agent right? They die all the time in movies and junk. After all... clearly it's stupid to keep anyone around for more than 1 season in a series of things. ;)

    Joking aside, the reason is several parts. One reason from a writing perspective is that it is easier to build on the story than make a new one and grow old character's in new ways. From a viewer standpoint, it's easier to care from the start for someone you already care for and keeping characters does not make it less accessible to new people either, it's a win win in that regard. Also, with a high turnover rate for characters as it is there is a need within viewers for some kind of permanence, if everyone is always dead by the end of the season then what's the point? You get numb to it when it happens all the time to everyone and then you move on to something new.

    The fact is that if they plan to keep this game going for a long time, more than two seasons they need something to have it all center on, and that's the Lee/Clem relationship. Especially if you think of her growing up as the game goes on. Now if they only want two season (maybe three) then it's still better to keep Clem and Lee into season two, because it's will make it more shocking if they die at the end of two season, but if they kill (or just move on from) them now then everyone playing season two will not invest as much, they wont care about the characters. We already see this happening, With Doug and Carley, everyone is guessing that Chuck and Omid and Christa are just walker bait or at least doomed in some other way. Could you see a successful show or game where they invoked that same feeling with the main characters... and could you even call them main characters if they die so quick?

    i think the problem with keeping Lee and Clementine is that they will seem immortal if it goes on to long, and we might care less about what we do with them if they seem that way
  • edited September 2012
    i think the problem with keeping Lee and Clementine is that they will seem immortal if it goes on to long, and we might care less about what we do with them if they seem that way

    You do have a point there, but I doubt them lasting two or three season would give people that feeling. It is a balance.
  • edited September 2012
    Personally I would rather see a different story for season 2. Perhaps away from from the east coast and perhaps more towards the west, just a place far away from the comics/tv show that would allow the creators to basically have fun with the story and not need to figure out how to tie in survivors from the comic, if at all.

    The way I see it, if we did get a second season is Clementine wouldn't exactly be the most optimistic caring girl we see now...being a child in this hell, I'd almost wager her to be on Lilly's mental state after so much time.
  • edited September 2012
    i just want clemintine to be the hero of season 2
  • edited September 2012
    define immortal / plot armor..

    lee and or clem can get injured like rick does and still survive..

    or they could kill one of them early on and have the other live on i think seeing how kenny lives on in ep4/ep5 will give us an idea..or not lol
  • edited September 2012
    UnknownFox wrote: »
    Personally I would rather see a different story for season 2. Perhaps away from from the east coast and perhaps more towards the west, just a place far away from the comics/tv show that would allow the creators to basically have fun with the story and not need to figure out how to tie in survivors from the comic, if at all.

    The way I see it, if we did get a second season is Clementine wouldn't exactly be the most optimistic caring girl we see now...being a child in this hell, I'd almost wager her to be on Lilly's mental state after so much time.

    Is a good idea.. Season 2 could even take place several years later.. Clem is a young adult, wise in the ways of a ZA world, a lil badass! Lee could be a memory and Clem is off on her own as the main character leading a entirely new group.
  • edited September 2012
    define immortal / plot armor..

    lee and or clem can get injured like rick does and still survive..

    or they could kill one of them early on and have the other live on i think seeing how kenny lives on in ep4/ep5 will give us an idea..or not lol

    i know where you are coming from because they are immortal up to this point really, but i think the more near death experiences Lee and Clementine have the more obvious it will be, but yeah i think a possibility of injury would help especially permanent injury.

    but to me rick is immortal and his worst injury i have seen for him wasn't as bad as it could have been, it could have been the other hand.
  • edited September 2012
    i think the problem with keeping Lee and Clementine is that they will seem immortal if it goes on to long, and we might care less about what we do with them if they seem that way

    Which can compare to Rick and Carl in the comics...? Honestly, the two seem immortal in the comics. I don't see why having Lee and Clem around for another season will seem like a bad idea on their characters. For all we know, Lee might lose an arm or something, just to make the characters feel "real" and in tone of TWD.
  • ZelZel
    edited September 2012
    I wouldn't mind Clem aging some and playing her without Lee.
  • edited September 2012
    Do you not see the writing and original characters they had in these episodes so far? Wouldn't you want new characters and a awesome new scenario?

    Why drag on the same story for so long that it's dead and no good anymore? I can see you wanting it now but when it's released I wouldn't be surprised to see 100s of people here whining.

    I think Lee has had a long road and deserves a epic ending for episode 5.

    Also remember this IS The Walking Dead you can't expect a "Lee AND Clementine" if they will even be in season 2.

    Come on wouldn't it be awesome to see other comic characters? Morgan and Duane after him and Rick split up. Fight side by side with Sgt. Abraham?
    I think that would be missing the point of the whole Telltale walking dead game experience. As Kirkman said the characters in the comic's stories have already been told, we know about Morgan's experiences through his conversations with the other survivors. Morgan didn't really go anywhere that is how Rick was able to find him. It's more interesting the way they have done the game with fresh characters and small cameo appearances from comic characters to bridge the game to the comic's reality.

    I would like to see Lee and Clementine in season 2. The comics are centered around Rick, the apocalypse is seen through Rick's eyes since he is the main protagonist. I feel that the same could be said for Lee. The story started with him and should end with him. He should just have additional members in his group. Maybe it could be a 10 episode series where the main characters don't die in every episode.
  • edited September 2012
    I would not mine to have Lee and Clem in Season 2 since they are the main characters in this game so why not have them again in season 2. (well that if they have them both life at the end of season 1)
  • edited September 2012
    Gennadios wrote: »
    I'd rather just have standalone storylines with different groups of survivors trying to make their way to a safe zone every year than watch the Lee/Clem storyline drag out.

    Good idea!
  • edited September 2012
    Because its only been one season. why end it before it gets truly started? plus It'll be cool to start off season 2 with a weapon trained Clementine and you get to see how she's matured. I don't think she's gonna be graduated to Walkers this season anyways. I wouldn't mind a new main character though, I'd like to be a Bandit leader or something you know play as the bad guys in TWD universe to really see how cold we'd be willing to get..
  • edited September 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    It would interesting to see Lee and Clem back in season 2 and meet Lilly after what happened to her at the prison.
    I don't think Lilly would have survived the heard of walkers at the prison considering she and her group ran out of ammunition. Even if she had found refuge in a building the sheer numbers of walkers would have starved the group out.

    The walking dead generally moves forward, Kirkman's philosophy. I couldn't see him bringing her back to the story it's not like she was a fan favourite in the comics unlike Morgan she was an antagonist to the grimes family.
  • edited September 2012
    dee23 wrote: »
    I think that would be missing the point of the whole Telltale walking dead game experience. As Kirkman said the characters in the comic's stories have already been told, we know about Morgan's experiences through his conversations with the other survivors. Morgan didn't really go anywhere that is how Rick was able to find him. It's more interesting the way they have done the game with fresh characters and small cameo appearances from comic characters to bridge the game to the comic's reality.

    I would like to see Lee and Clementine in season 2. The comics are centered around Rick, the apocalypse is seen through Rick's eyes since he is the main protagonist. I feel that the same could be said for Lee. The story started with him and should end with him. He should just have additional members in his group. Maybe it could be a 10 episode series where the main characters don't die in every episode.

    I feel the same way. Also, Kirkman has stated that he is "done" with the prison group and Woodbury. We never knew if Lilly survived or not. It would be interesting if Telltale elaborated on the Lilly storyline. I just want to see Lee's reaction to seeing Lilly for a second time.
  • edited September 2012
    I'd rather continue on this story than starting all over with a new one.
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