Telltale Crossed The Line

edited October 2012 in The Walking Dead
Is there are anything TTG can do that will make you quit playing?

A lot of people said they're done after Carley was killed. We'll see. Is there anything they can do, of have done, that will have you calling it quits?

For me, if they kill Clem in episode 4 I would not buy episode 5. They would have killed off the last fuck I gave.

I would just move on after that. I wouldn't even be a little curious what happened next.
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  • edited September 2012
    If they bring back Carley, I'm done.
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    If they bring back Carley, I'm done.

    haha that would be the cheesiest move ever.
  • edited September 2012
    Nah, I've bought everything from Telltale and loved pretty much all of it. I'm not really the sort to get outraged by a story's events. The more deaths the better. They'd have to do something uncharacteristically bad to change my mind, and I'd still finish the game. Then their next two releases would have to be abysmal to sour my favor, and I think Harrison Pink would have to shoot my mom or something.

    And even then, I'd still come back for another Sam and Max season.
  • edited September 2012
    Ewok dance routine at the end.

    Short of that.

    Nah.
  • edited September 2012
    After episode 3, TWD is too bleak (for me). Not just the murders, but the suicide, deaths, and the team interactions. I came to the forums to see how other people responded to TWD and if they perceive TWD the same way. It seems like the consensus is that TWD is hopeless, and that's what people like about it. So, I think TTG is faithful to the TWD with episode 3, and there's no reason for me to get another season.

    I'm not really interested in playing to find out when people die. Since I have the season, I'll give episode 4 a chance. Maybe episode 3 was just how the writers wanted to take the narrative to an emotional low point. But I don't think so. I think it will stay miserable, but now the choices will have no have emotional impact because it's obvious that the characters have no future.

    So, I'm not looking for anything particular in episode 4, just whether episode 3 broke the immersion for me completely by revealing too much about how TWD works.

    I still like Telltale, though. It's more that TWD is not for me; it's not an issue with Telltale.
  • edited September 2012
    clem and lee have plot armor till season 2..

    if ben survives and becomes lee's bff i'm done..
  • edited September 2012
    Lol.
  • edited September 2012
    what do you mean Bff? boy friend forever? lol
  • edited September 2012
    I think it means best friend forever: Eek:, if that happens ... then I'll stop.
  • edited September 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    Is there are anything TTG can do that will make you quit playing?

    A lot of people said they're done after Carley was killed. We'll see. Is there anything they can do, of have done, that will have you calling it quits?

    For me, if they kill Clem in episode 4 I would not buy episode 5. They would have killed off the last fuck I gave.

    I would just move on after that. I wouldn't even be a little curious what happened next.

    No. They can kill off my Lee and I would still want to see how the series ends.
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    If they bring back Carley, I'm done.

    It looks like Cyreen and I actually agree on something :eek: That has been my biggest fear. With all the bring Carley back talk...blecch
  • edited September 2012
    No way they are going to bring Carley back. I think being shot in the face and left there is a pretty definitive "she's not coming back". People just have to get used to the idea that she is gone. I liked Carley too but I dont desire to have her come back, or anyone else that we lost. We have to move on.
  • edited September 2012
    KCohere wrote: »
    No way they are going to bring Carley back. I think being shot in the face and left there is a pretty definitive "she's not coming back". People just have to get used to the idea that she is gone. I liked Carley too but I dont desire to have her come back, or anyone else that we lost. We have to move on.

    I think most people that talk about bringing Carley back ("Hur dur, carley shot in face, she alive hur dur") are trolling, seriously, you can't get so attached to a video-game character for so long after she's dead already.

    But if they brought Carley back (which is very, very unlikely), I would stop playing as well.

    And well, if Clementine died... I would still buy season 2, even if she died on the last episode.
  • edited September 2012
    If Ben and Kenny survive Episode 5...

    Other than that, it's cool i guess
  • edited September 2012
    To me, there are no lines. This is their game, they can go wherever they want with it. I'm just here for the ride.

    Nothing they do is going to make me refuse to finish it.
  • edited September 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    Is there are anything TTG can do that will make you quit playing?

    A lot of people said they're done after Carley was killed. We'll see. Is there anything they can do, of have done, that will have you calling it quits?

    For me, if they kill Clem in episode 4 I would not buy episode 5. They would have killed off the last fuck I gave.

    I would just move on after that. I wouldn't even be a little curious what happened next.

    Nope. I've had a blast playing this game and just love the story. It was fun to play even when it was just Lee at the beginning of e1.

    I know people are upset over the loss of characters they really liked but we are only three episodes into Lee's story. Think about it for a moment. There are plenty of stories worth telling from that hour when the first walker reanimated. TTG picked Lee's story to tell just like Kirkman picked Rick's story. I think the best is yet to come.

    Whether it's too painful to make friends anymore is up to you. People we like are going to die. Maybe we can choose what Lee says from time to time or figure out a puzzle but that's about the limit of our control and Lee's control of this world and the people in it.

    It could be worse, at least e4 and e5 and season 2 don't have us at a farm looking for a missing girl.:D
  • edited September 2012
    To me, there are no lines. This is their game, they can go wherever they want with it. I'm just here for the ride.

    Nothing they do is going to make me refuse to finish it.

    This. I'm seeing it until the end despite my favorite character ever dying, and half of the characters I like being dead. They know what they're doing, and should keep on with their story as they originally planned to. If they decide to bring Carley back or not, they should do it because it was part of what they planned, not according to what people want. There will always be someone who will love TWD no matter what. I'll play it until the end. I mean, why not finish what you've started? And I still love TWD and find episode 3 to be great along with the rest.
  • edited September 2012
    When it comes to story reasons, if Telltale made it nice. No one deserves "plot armor" not even Lee and Clem deserve it, same with Rick and Carl.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited September 2012
    I wonder why the comics do not give rise to such protests. Kirkman has been doing the exact same thing for a fucking decade now. Children killed, babies and mothers killed, suicides, prolonged rape, massive torture. I can absolutely understand why people would call it quits with Clementine's death - and I probably personally would as well - yet why is Kirkman "allowed" to and even praised for breaking those taboos while Telltale is continuously bashed for it? Is that some kind of double standard for the Walking Dead fans?

    Of course they'll cross the line. The original comics series has crossed so many, it's hard to even think of another line it could cross!
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited September 2012
    I wonder why the comics do not give rise to such protests. Kirkman has been doing the exact same thing for a fucking decade now. Children killed, babies and mothers killed, suicides, prolonged rape, massive torture. I can absolutely understand why people would call it quits with Clementine's death - and I probably personally would as well - yet why is Kirkman "allowed" to and even praised for breaking those taboos while Telltale is continuously bashed for it? Is that some kind of double standard for the Walking Dead fans?

    Of course they'll cross the line. The original comics series has crossed so many, it's hard to even think of another line it could cross!

    This may be an fairly simple and stupid answer but.

    I didn't get TWDG because of The Comics, or The Show. To get the comic I either have to pay money and get them online or pay a taxi to take me to a local comic/book store The Show on AMC requires me to have cable and while I do have it It's currently not on yet and i'm missing a few episodes However right up on the front page of Xbox they advertise new games and such. I saw a Walking Dead game remembered it was some sort of zombie show and tried it because I loves me some zombie stuff and so I got the Demo and the voice acting especially of Clem and how the story was a little different depending on if i went at night or said I was the babysitter and all won me over to getting the actual game. I had no back knowledge of TWD universe other then it involved zombies and had a joke about a tank. I expect Clem to be like a little sister in bioshock , Amy from.. Amy, or the girl from I Am Alive, or any number of games where your supposed to protect and play a paternal role. Naturally your "child" is supposed to be in danger so you can save them. But you don't expect any truely terrible things to happen.
  • edited September 2012
    Kill Lee and Clem in episode 5, probably might stop playing the game.
  • edited September 2012
    Vain: He gets a lot of grief for it too. In fact, in issue 102, he gets a lot of mail about his decision to kill
    Glenn
    .

    A few of them are general, some of them insanely passionate, but one is long and crazy - with a bullet list of things Kirkman will need to survive his wrath. It's signed Steven Yuen. The letter alone is worth buying the comic.
  • edited September 2012
    LadyJ wrote: »
    It looks like Cyreen and I actually agree on something :eek:

    I said it with the understanding that it will NEVER happen, why? Because she's ROADKILL.
    I wonder why the comics do not give rise to such protests.

    Does Kirkman have a personal public forum?
    It's signed Steven Yuen.

    LOL ~ that is awesome!
  • edited September 2012
    Vain: He gets a lot of grief for it too. In fact, in issue 102, he gets a lot of mail about his decision to kill
    Glenn
    .

    A few of them are general, some of them insanely passionate, but one is long and crazy - with a bullet list of things Kirkman will need to survive his wrath. It's signed Steven Yuen. The letter alone is worth buying the comic.

    Wait, doesn't Steven Yeun play
    Glenn
    in the TV Show? :D:D:D
  • edited September 2012
    Lol
  • edited September 2012
    Bring back Carley in the end of the Episode 5 like "OMG SHE'S ALIVE". Then she save Clementine from die and Lee die in an epic moment, they kiss each other and end of season 1.

    That would make my day.
  • edited September 2012
    Oh yeah, she's gonna be downright sexy with half her face gone. Come here baby, give us a kiss!

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  • edited September 2012
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  • edited September 2012
    Less soppy romances and more killing and gruesome deaths!!!
    The former is possible in real life, I play games to enjoy the latter without creating trouble for myself... Bring it on Telltale!!! :p
  • edited September 2012
    I wonder why the comics do not give rise to such protests. Kirkman has been doing the exact same thing for a fucking decade now. Children killed, babies and mothers killed, suicides, prolonged rape, massive torture. I can absolutely understand why people would call it quits with Clementine's death - and I probably personally would as well - yet why is Kirkman "allowed" to and even praised for breaking those taboos while Telltale is continuously bashed for it? Is that some kind of double standard for the Walking Dead fans?

    Of course they'll cross the line. The original comics series has crossed so many, it's hard to even think of another line it could cross!

    I didn't have a problem with them killing off Carley and Doug, I had a problem with them dying in the same way.
  • edited September 2012
    trd84 wrote: »
    I didn't have a problem with them killing off Carley and Doug, I had a problem with them dying in the same way.

    This. Same way and more or less same words by both, and low appearance.
  • edited September 2012
    trd84 wrote: »
    I didn't have a problem with them killing off Carley and Doug, I had a problem with them dying in the same way.

    They don't. Carley stands up to an almost insane Lilly and provokes her, ending up getting shot in the face, Doug and Clem see Lilly pulling the gun, but Doug pulls Ben and gets shot in the back of the head. Lilly doesn't feel that much remorse in killing Carley, as she thought she was protecting the group from the traitor, but she shows it when she kills Doug, because the bullet wasn't meant for him.

    It's two different ways to perceive the moment. They were two different characters with two different personalities, and died because of two different reasons.

    And since I saved Doug and she showed remorse, I sort of "forgave" her for the moment and let her into the RV. Had I saved Carley instead, I don't know if it would have played out the same way.
  • I'd only stop playing if Lee & co. Save a Sciencetist who has the "cure" to the zombie virus and he needs upload it to a machine which was secretly built incase a Zombie outbreak ever did occur which is located conveniently in Savannah and Lee needs to sacrifice himself to save the human race.
    I would quit if that was the case but aslong as TellTale keeps the series the way it is i'm staying for round two.
  • edited September 2012
    KCohere wrote: »
    No way they are going to bring Carley back. I think being shot in the face and left there is a pretty definitive "she's not coming back". People just have to get used to the idea that she is gone. I liked Carley too but I dont desire to have her come back, or anyone else that we lost. We have to move on.

    Imagine this, the train is about to get to savannah, your about to finally make it to your destination, then as soon as it parks, you walk outside to find Larry sitting waiting for you as he gets in your face "Wheres my daughter?!"
  • edited September 2012
    Imagine this, the train is about to get to savannah, your about to finally make it to your destination, then as soon as it parts, you walk outside to find Larry sitting waiting for you as he gets in your face "Wheres my daughter?!"




    That would be quite the trick since he is now missing a head.
  • edited September 2012
    KCohere wrote: »
    That would be quite the trick since he is now missing a head.

    Hah thats the point, it would be a big big "WTF" moment, :P
  • edited September 2012
    I wonder why the comics do not give rise to such protests. Kirkman has been doing the exact same thing for a fucking decade now. Children killed, babies and mothers killed, suicides, prolonged rape, massive torture. I can absolutely understand why people would call it quits with Clementine's death - and I probably personally would as well - yet why is Kirkman "allowed" to and even praised for breaking those taboos while Telltale is continuously bashed for it? Is that some kind of double standard for the Walking Dead fans?

    Of course they'll cross the line. The original comics series has crossed so many, it's hard to even think of another line it could cross!

    the biggest difference between the comics/tv show and the game is that in a comic or tv show we are passive observers that try to empathise with the characters in a story we have no control over, in a game we are active participants that SHOULD have some control over what happens, it make us feel responsible for what happens, but a comic or tv show we don't feel responsible we just feel sad that they made bad decisions
  • edited September 2012
    "Larry, how are you still alive? And you...I shot you months ago! I rotted in prison to kill you!"
    "Quite the contrary, Mr. Everett. You see, the other deceased and I have constructed a crude suspension bridge to Venezuela. Once there, I shall lie low and assume odd jobs under the name: Mr. Pilkington; but perhaps I’ve said too much."
  • edited September 2012
    For any of you curious about the actual letter from Steven Yeun that Master of Aeons was talking about, check this link: (spoilers obviously)

    http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/steven-yeun?before=1348100944

    It's hilarious and worth a read!

    Edit: They need to fit a Bruce Campbell type character in this series eventually, haha.
  • edited September 2012
    Imagine this, the train is about to get to savannah, your about to finally make it to your destination, then as soon as it parks, you walk outside to find Larry sitting waiting for you as he gets in your face "Wheres my daughter?!"

    That would be funny as hell hahahaha
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