Random odd thought that this thread has evoked....does anyone else think it's sort of ummm weird that before you had to choose between Carley and Doug, they were hinting at a romance developing between the two of them? Not just that, BUT that the two characters wound up being interchangeable so in essence they were planning to have them in love with themselves???
...BUT that the two characters wound up being interchangeable so in essence they were planning to have them in love with themselves???
Somewhat interchangeable, but still very opposite personalities, like two sides of a coin. That romantic inclination made some sense to me considering Doug saved Carley. I kinda felt Carley was coming off a little desperate with Lee.
Somewhat interchangeable, but still very opposite personalities, like two sides of a coin. That romantic inclination made some sense to me considering Doug saved Carley. I kinda felt Carley was coming off a little desperate with Lee.
Hmm, well Lee saved her as well, and she originally had a black and white view of him as she knew of his past but realized he was a great guy. I mean, in 3-4 months and seeing that person every day, it's pretty easy to fall for them, imo. Especially when they've both got a secret together, so there's trust, and have each other's backs a lot.
I thought it was pretty normal, and not saying that you are doing this, but it irks me so much when I go on Youtube or other places and see people calling Carley names just because she fell for Lee after she had a crush on Doug, when it's totally normal considering the circumstances imo. ):
Lilly also had, and she's at the top of my list of Hatred!
if that were true that you speak, WHY I and some others do not like Lilly and Christa???more especially Lilly, WHY????
Carley is my favorite character of ALL because of how she is!
Oh my god, I got a pretty good laugh out of this. Genius
Carley was being accused head on by Lilly. And it's good that somebody got the guts to tell Lilly the truth. If anyone seriously thinks people like Carley "just because of her boobs", then that's rather ignorant, since you're saying the only reason to like her would be because she's a female. There WAS an undeniable gender bias in episode 1, but obviously people like Carley for a number of reasons that come up from the episodes after that you'd know if you looked at the posts in this thread. I know I don't like her just because she's a girl, and I'm a girl.
Also not correct in any way, as Lilly has boobs (and even bigger) than Carley and most people hate her, Christa has boobs and I don't like her.
Yet nobody would say these kinds of things for a male character.
Oh my god, I got a pretty good laugh out of this. Genius
I will defend Carley's honor and her height.
As someone else pointed out, she's the only one who brought a gun to the ZA. I have a feeling that I'm going to be saying "I wish Carley was here." hundreds of times while going through the horror that is Savannah in episode 4.
As someone else pointed out, she's the only one who brought a gun to the ZA. I have a feeling that I'm going to be saying "I wish Carley was here." hundreds of times while going through the horror that is Savannah in episode 4.
Exactly that was going through my mind, as well. Actually, ever since after Carley died it's all that's been going through my head, ugh. ): The game feels pretty different without her, and not to mention with most of the original cast being dead/gone. Yet at the same time it doesn't. Such is The Walking Dead game. Let's all hope for references to her.
Is it really good to insult a clearly unhinged woman whos carrying a gun? And then to turn your back on said gun-toting-crazy-woman?
She may have rescued us in ep1 and helped out in ep2 but damn she really cocked up during that scene.
It's good that someone finally told her about it, but she did make a mistake there. Not saying she didn't. But it's not much compared to Ben and Lilly. I understand though since if I was her, I would be pissed as hell too that someone is not only accusing me of doing something that I didn't do, she also brought up Carley's family and wanted Lee to go on her side. But yeah, mistake on her part.
To be fair, I don't think anybody saw that coming. I didn't. Did you?
As unhinged as Lilly was, murder was something else and surprised many.
Exactly. Carley may have chosen a bad time to tell Lilly off, but it was completely understandable and nobody thought Lilly would resort to straight up murder. That's why I can only say Carley made a bit of a mistake, I can't blame her like some people can. What was she going to know, that what she'd say would end up resulting in her death?
To be fair, I don't think anybody saw that coming. I didn't. Did you?
As unhinged as Lilly was, murder was something else and surprised many.
Don't get me wrong, I was as surprised as anyone. But I'd like to think if I was in an argument with someone in that situation and I knew they were armed I'd keep one eye on them and a hand on my gun until the situation was diffused.
As a piece of drama, it was top notch and I admit hindsight is great for me to make comments like that. In the heat of the moment mistakes are made but TWD hasn't been known to reward folks for making mistakes and they didn't with Carley either.
Don't get me wrong, I was as surprised as anyone. But I'd like to think if I was in an argument with someone in that situation and I knew they were armed I'd keep one eye on them and a hand on my gun until the situation was diffused.
As a piece of drama, it was top notch and I admit hindsight is great for me to make comments like that. In the heat of the moment mistakes are made but TWD hasn't been known to reward folks for making mistakes and they didn't with Carley either.
At least I had enough sense around to me NOT take the blame myself. As soon as I saw the "I did it" option, I took one look at Lilly and said "Nope, not sayin that." Lilly was freaking crazy, and I was too scared to even draw her ATTENTION toward me again, let alone say I was the one stealing the supplies. I actually felt like crap after Carley died, because I helped kill Larry and was too scared to take the fall so Carley didn't have to. I actually thought I was the reason she got shot.
Why is everyone so in love with Carley? Yeah her getting shot was bad, but honestly I was more mad about Doug getting shot.
If you are a Carley fan why do you like her character so much? For the fact she was a possible romance? Or that she was uber cute trying to put in batteries?
Actually, had Doug been the one to confront me in the office in episode 1, and not Carly...I would have likely chosen Doug my first time. However, she was the gun toting-hero, and I was going to value that more than someone who likely wouldn't be that useful outside of programming remotes.
I'm sorry, but that's how I called it. If there was an option to save both, then yes, I would have done that, so I made the best call in my mind. I will be going through the game again to see what his story and outcome are like, but from what I hear, yeah, Carly is the better option.
After Lee's she is perhaps the most useful member of your group. She obviously isn't gifted with electronics or computers, but in that is hardly a drawback in an era where the power grid is offline and where surviving zombie attacks or bandit raids is a more pressing concern than getting a radio operational. She has a skillset that is far more useful: fearlessness in combat and a proficiency with firearms.
The other reason why I like Carley is that she was for the most part, a moral person. She risks her own life and rushes out to rescue Lee, Clem and Kenny's family when they get trapped by zombies early in the game, even though they were strangers. She also knows Lee's past but does not tell the others, and is the first among the group to be willing to give Lee a second chance. She is more concerned with the well being of Clementine than herself when you are short of food, and she tries to defend Ben from Lilly. (he was just a kid)
Her one stumble was not wanting to save the trapped girl at the motel. But considering the place was overrun with zombies, it was understandable, and everyone is allowed a few mistakes in the zombie apocalypse.
She saved your life numerous of times.
She saved Clem numerous of times.
If she was a real life person she would probably be pretty.
She doesn't take any shit.
She is caring.
She is considerate.
She is kind.
She is a good person.
She can hold her own.
She is a great shot.
Exactly. Carley may have chosen a bad time to tell Lilly off, but it was completely understandable and nobody thought Lilly would resort to straight up murder. That's why I can only say Carley made a bit of a mistake, I can't blame her like some people can. What was she going to know, that what she'd say would end up resulting in her death?
I'm getting really tired of people saying that Carley made a mistake by telling Lilly off. Yes she did, but everyone else turned away from a woman that has proven to be slightly less than mentally stable and is holding a gun. I would think that after surviving for around three months they would know better than that.
The first time I played, I picked Doug. Mostly because I wasn't really thinking and I thought I would be able to save both.. but then after that ordeal I went to talk to Doug, he said something like "I wish you saved her instead" -_-'' FINE! I replayed and let the walkers take him away.
I'm getting really tired of people saying that Carley made a mistake by telling Lilly off. Yes she did, but everyone else turned away from a woman that has proven to be slightly less than mentally stable and is holding a gun. I would think that after surviving for around three months they would know better than that.
Carley didn't make a mistake at all. She was absolutely right in what she said to Lilly, and was also right in trying to get her to back off for a moment. At the end of the day Ben was just a kid, as far as they knew they hadn't lost anyone in the bandit attack (Duck's bite not yet revealed), and Lilly was throwing around a lot of accusations without any evidence to back them up.
The only person who made a mistake during that scene was Lilly, when she decided to commit an act of cold-blooded murder and endanger the entire group, by robbing it off someone who was both completely loyal and the most skilled out of the bunch with a pistol.
No one could have envisioned Lilly flying so far off the handle that she'd murder another group member without any justification.
I'm not going to go into detail on her skill when it comes to a gun, although that was a pretty good factor that I know made a lot of us take a second glance at her. That's obvious and I don't think anyone will disagree this point.
I liked her relationship with Lee. Not in a "I'm a horny teenager that wants to see sexual stuff" way, but it was sweet. Those two would have clicked perfectly. They would make a good team; I could see them always taking down zombies together and having each other's backs. :]
Carley was pretty, and I do admit looks can either make me more fond of a character or dislike them more. I'm a straight girly, and if I ever get stuck in the apocalypse, I'd like to look as nice as she managed to.
She was also reasonable. I agreed with her on almost everything she had to say/do. She didn't lose her temper and force herself too far into the spotlight (apart from the time it cost her her life) or hide in the shadows. She didn't get involved when it wasn't necessary. She dropped the subject and didn't bring it up again when Lee voiced his annoyance at her asking what happened in the meat locker at the St. John's farm.
She had a good sense of humor, too. She made me laugh multiple times. How can you not love somebody with such a cute and light personality? Even in the midst of fighting Walkers, she didn't shut down. She managed to keep things amusing.
I'm not going to go into detail on her skill when it comes to a gun, although that was a pretty good factor that I know made a lot of us take a second glance at her. That's obvious and I don't think anyone will disagree this point.
I liked her relationship with Lee. Not in a "I'm a horny teenager that wants to see sexual stuff" way, but it was sweet. Those two would have clicked perfectly. They would make a good team; I could see them always taking down zombies together and having each other's backs. :]
Carley was pretty, and I do admit looks can either make me more fond of a character or dislike them more. I'm a straight girly, and if I ever get stuck in the apocalypse, I'd like to look as nice as she managed to.
She was also reasonable. I agreed with her on almost everything she had to say/do. She didn't lose her temper and force herself too far into the spotlight (apart from the time it cost her her life) or hide in the shadows. She didn't get involved when it wasn't necessary. She dropped the subject and didn't bring it up again when Lee voiced his annoyance at her asking what happened in the meat locker at the St. John's farm.
She had a good sense of humor, too. She made me laugh multiple times. How can you not love somebody with such a cute and light personality? Even in the midst of fighting Walkers, she didn't shut down. She managed to keep things amusing.
totaly agree with it, she was just awesome. too bad there wasn't a way to save her life
this was actually the first game in a long time i thought: i really want to play this. and after a few hours i quit because i cant do anything to save carley. im still not playing the game because it hurts when people mention her name
I like Carley for her selflessness. She risked her life rushing out to save Lee and company when they first got to Macon. She stood up for the newcomers when Larry and Lilly wanted them out. Later, she went with Lee to rescue Glenn even though she could have stayed in the fortified drugstore. She also gave Lee a second chance at the drugstore despite his past, and kept silent. If she told others, you can bet Larry and Lilly would really push to kick Lee out to the herd. These were the initial reasons that made me like Carley initially, and in fact made me instinctively save her in Episode 1. After all, it seemed only right to save the person who save you. It also assured me Carley was a woman who would always have my back when in trouble. In times like an ZA, having selfless group members is the difference between getting saved or left behind.
Episode 2 showed proved how awesome of a sidekick Carley was, especially when she showed up at the right moment to save Lee.
By Episode 3, I really appreciate that humanness Carley represented in the story. She gave up her own rations so you and Clem can eat! The romance arc just added to her character in this humanness regard. In fact, I think the romance arc was added by TTG as a "teaser" to the possibility of hope only to effectively tear it away. I don't know about the rest of you, but after Lilly offed her, I definitely noticed how lonely I felt without Carley to act as a balance to the increasingly brutal group dynamics. I could no longer count on anyone to always have my back based on my previous choices. This is why I appreciate Carley as a character.
I like Carley for her selflessness. She risked her life rushing out to save Lee and company when they first got to Macon. She stood up for the newcomers when Larry and Lilly wanted them out. Later, she went with Lee to rescue Glenn even though she could have stayed in the fortified drugstore. She also gave Lee a second chance at the drugstore despite his past, and kept silent. If she told others, you can bet Larry and Lilly would really push to kick Lee out to the herd. These were the initial reasons that made me like Carley initially, and in fact made me instinctively save her in Episode 1. After all, it seemed only right to save the person who save you. It also assured me Carley was a woman who would always have my back when in trouble. In times like an ZA, having selfless group members is the difference between getting saved or left behind.
Episode 2 showed proved how awesome of a sidekick Carley was, especially when she showed up at the right moment to save Lee.
By Episode 3, I really appreciate that humanness Carley represented in the story. She gave up her own rations so you and Clem can eat! The romance arc just added to her character in this humanness regard. In fact, I think the romance arc was added by TTG as a "teaser" to the possibility of hope only to effectively tear it away. I don't know about the rest of you, but after Lilly offed her, I definitely noticed how lonely I felt without Carley to act as a balance to the increasingly brutal group dynamics. I could no longer count on anyone to always have my back based on my previous choices. This is why I appreciate Carley as a character.
I also picked doug first but in my second play through i saved carley and realized that with her saved, i could tell the group my past and everyone was more accepting and happy that i was honest with them, unlike when lily tells out secret and everyone is upset with us.
This is what happened to me, too. I like both characters, but I like Carley's in-game benefits more.
I like the Action Girl type. And she and Lee would've been cute.
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Somewhat interchangeable, but still very opposite personalities, like two sides of a coin. That romantic inclination made some sense to me considering Doug saved Carley. I kinda felt Carley was coming off a little desperate with Lee.
Yeah I know! Throw in one little I-love-Doug-mug and suddenly you're "odd". :eek:
Oh, that dude who got pulled out a window in episode one? =V
Hmm, well Lee saved her as well, and she originally had a black and white view of him as she knew of his past but realized he was a great guy. I mean, in 3-4 months and seeing that person every day, it's pretty easy to fall for them, imo. Especially when they've both got a secret together, so there's trust, and have each other's backs a lot.
I thought it was pretty normal, and not saying that you are doing this, but it irks me so much when I go on Youtube or other places and see people calling Carley names just because she fell for Lee after she had a crush on Doug, when it's totally normal considering the circumstances imo. ):
Yeah, that dorky guy who wore socks with his sandals that Carley thought was cute (laser pointer...:rolleyes:).
No I stated my personal opinion; The Walking Dead presents speed dating, zombie style. Get'em while they're still warm! Supplies limited.
Carley:
-Fights with Lilly
-Escalates Lilly
-Provoked Lilly and got herself shot
Doug:
-Attempts to diffuse situation
-Protects Ben
-Tries to calm Lilly down
-Dies sacrificing himself to save someone else.
I have come to the conclusion the only reason people like Carley is because she has boobs.
:rolleyes: Lilly also has boobs, yet I hate her.
Also, to my knowledge Doug is not directly accused of being the traitor.
Her breast are pretty small. I mean, they look good on her b/c she's short, but they don't look big. Lilly has bigger breast.
But I like Carley b/c she think I should be the leader and gives me kisses.
if that were true that you speak, WHY I and some others do not like Lilly and Christa???more especially Lilly, WHY????
Carley is my favorite character of ALL because of how she is!
Stop calling her small! :mad:
Oh my god, I got a pretty good laugh out of this. Genius
Carley was being accused head on by Lilly. And it's good that somebody got the guts to tell Lilly the truth. If anyone seriously thinks people like Carley "just because of her boobs", then that's rather ignorant, since you're saying the only reason to like her would be because she's a female. There WAS an undeniable gender bias in episode 1, but obviously people like Carley for a number of reasons that come up from the episodes after that you'd know if you looked at the posts in this thread. I know I don't like her just because she's a girl, and I'm a girl.
Also not correct in any way, as Lilly has boobs (and even bigger) than Carley and most people hate her, Christa has boobs and I don't like her.
Yet nobody would say these kinds of things for a male character.
I will defend Carley's honor and her height.
As someone else pointed out, she's the only one who brought a gun to the ZA. I have a feeling that I'm going to be saying "I wish Carley was here." hundreds of times while going through the horror that is Savannah in episode 4.
lol funny, yesterday when I saw the trailer of Ep4, I said exactly that.
But life still goes.
Exactly that was going through my mind, as well. Actually, ever since after Carley died it's all that's been going through my head, ugh. ): The game feels pretty different without her, and not to mention with most of the original cast being dead/gone. Yet at the same time it doesn't. Such is The Walking Dead game. Let's all hope for references to her.
Is it really good to insult a clearly unhinged woman whos carrying a gun? And then to turn your back on said gun-toting-crazy-woman?
She may have rescued us in ep1 and helped out in ep2 but damn she really cocked up during that scene.
It's good that someone finally told her about it, but she did make a mistake there. Not saying she didn't. But it's not much compared to Ben and Lilly. I understand though since if I was her, I would be pissed as hell too that someone is not only accusing me of doing something that I didn't do, she also brought up Carley's family and wanted Lee to go on her side. But yeah, mistake on her part.
To be fair, I don't think anybody saw that coming. I didn't. Did you?
As unhinged as Lilly was, murder was something else and surprised many.
Agreed. That's why I do not blame Carley. There have been tense arguments already that did not end in violence, so it's not like they saw it coming.
Exactly. Carley may have chosen a bad time to tell Lilly off, but it was completely understandable and nobody thought Lilly would resort to straight up murder. That's why I can only say Carley made a bit of a mistake, I can't blame her like some people can. What was she going to know, that what she'd say would end up resulting in her death?
Don't get me wrong, I was as surprised as anyone. But I'd like to think if I was in an argument with someone in that situation and I knew they were armed I'd keep one eye on them and a hand on my gun until the situation was diffused.
As a piece of drama, it was top notch and I admit hindsight is great for me to make comments like that. In the heat of the moment mistakes are made but TWD hasn't been known to reward folks for making mistakes and they didn't with Carley either.
At least I had enough sense around to me NOT take the blame myself. As soon as I saw the "I did it" option, I took one look at Lilly and said "Nope, not sayin that." Lilly was freaking crazy, and I was too scared to even draw her ATTENTION toward me again, let alone say I was the one stealing the supplies. I actually felt like crap after Carley died, because I helped kill Larry and was too scared to take the fall so Carley didn't have to. I actually thought I was the reason she got shot.
What about the breasts?
jk jk
I'm sorry, but that's how I called it. If there was an option to save both, then yes, I would have done that, so I made the best call in my mind. I will be going through the game again to see what his story and outcome are like, but from what I hear, yeah, Carly is the better option.
The other reason why I like Carley is that she was for the most part, a moral person. She risks her own life and rushes out to rescue Lee, Clem and Kenny's family when they get trapped by zombies early in the game, even though they were strangers. She also knows Lee's past but does not tell the others, and is the first among the group to be willing to give Lee a second chance. She is more concerned with the well being of Clementine than herself when you are short of food, and she tries to defend Ben from Lilly. (he was just a kid)
Her one stumble was not wanting to save the trapped girl at the motel. But considering the place was overrun with zombies, it was understandable, and everyone is allowed a few mistakes in the zombie apocalypse.
She saved Clem numerous of times.
If she was a real life person she would probably be pretty.
She doesn't take any shit.
She is caring.
She is considerate.
She is kind.
She is a good person.
She can hold her own.
She is a great shot.
Yeeaahh... because Lily was just really useful and stable at that point.
Come to think of it though, Doug did too in my other playthrough so I'm ok with both of em
I saved Carley and abandoned Lilly on the side of the road.
I'm getting really tired of people saying that Carley made a mistake by telling Lilly off. Yes she did, but everyone else turned away from a woman that has proven to be slightly less than mentally stable and is holding a gun. I would think that after surviving for around three months they would know better than that.
Carley didn't make a mistake at all. She was absolutely right in what she said to Lilly, and was also right in trying to get her to back off for a moment. At the end of the day Ben was just a kid, as far as they knew they hadn't lost anyone in the bandit attack (Duck's bite not yet revealed), and Lilly was throwing around a lot of accusations without any evidence to back them up.
The only person who made a mistake during that scene was Lilly, when she decided to commit an act of cold-blooded murder and endanger the entire group, by robbing it off someone who was both completely loyal and the most skilled out of the bunch with a pistol.
No one could have envisioned Lilly flying so far off the handle that she'd murder another group member without any justification.
I liked her relationship with Lee. Not in a "I'm a horny teenager that wants to see sexual stuff" way, but it was sweet. Those two would have clicked perfectly. They would make a good team; I could see them always taking down zombies together and having each other's backs. :]
Carley was pretty, and I do admit looks can either make me more fond of a character or dislike them more. I'm a straight girly, and if I ever get stuck in the apocalypse, I'd like to look as nice as she managed to.
She was also reasonable. I agreed with her on almost everything she had to say/do. She didn't lose her temper and force herself too far into the spotlight (apart from the time it cost her her life) or hide in the shadows. She didn't get involved when it wasn't necessary. She dropped the subject and didn't bring it up again when Lee voiced his annoyance at her asking what happened in the meat locker at the St. John's farm.
She had a good sense of humor, too. She made me laugh multiple times. How can you not love somebody with such a cute and light personality? Even in the midst of fighting Walkers, she didn't shut down. She managed to keep things amusing.
totaly agree with it, she was just awesome. too bad there wasn't a way to save her life
this was actually the first game in a long time i thought: i really want to play this. and after a few hours i quit because i cant do anything to save carley. im still not playing the game because it hurts when people mention her name
Episode 2 showed proved how awesome of a sidekick Carley was, especially when she showed up at the right moment to save Lee.
By Episode 3, I really appreciate that humanness Carley represented in the story. She gave up her own rations so you and Clem can eat! The romance arc just added to her character in this humanness regard. In fact, I think the romance arc was added by TTG as a "teaser" to the possibility of hope only to effectively tear it away. I don't know about the rest of you, but after Lilly offed her, I definitely noticed how lonely I felt without Carley to act as a balance to the increasingly brutal group dynamics. I could no longer count on anyone to always have my back based on my previous choices. This is why I appreciate Carley as a character.
Episode 2 showed proved how awesome of a sidekick Carley was, especially when she showed up at the right moment to save Lee.
By Episode 3, I really appreciate that humanness Carley represented in the story. She gave up her own rations so you and Clem can eat! The romance arc just added to her character in this humanness regard. In fact, I think the romance arc was added by TTG as a "teaser" to the possibility of hope only to effectively tear it away. I don't know about the rest of you, but after Lilly offed her, I definitely noticed how lonely I felt without Carley to act as a balance to the increasingly brutal group dynamics. I could no longer count on anyone to always have my back based on my previous choices. This is why I appreciate Carley as a character.
I like the Action Girl type. And she and Lee would've been cute.