The Biggest problem in a Zombie apocalypse is food so
No food= No energy
No Energy= How the fck are you gonna use a bike ??
Bike is useless= You have to walk biggest mistake.
You have a car?= can use it as a mini house.
You have a car?= only press gas you dont need energy for that.
out of gas?= Then your death but its the same for a bike for a bike you need energy for a car gas What's the different ?!?!
So you're saying if you're dying of starvation you'd have enough energy to drive a car? Dude, if you're that weak you're not able to do ANYTHING, regardless of the kind of transportation you have. Like Devlonir said, you can have both bikes and cars, use cars only when you have to, and use the bikes to make quick supply runs. Whatever you find can be stuck into backpacks to carry while on the bike. If you don't think that backpacks would be big enough to carry supplies, the time people would realize bikes are better is when they have used up all their gas, so they wouldn't have much choice, PLUS there are those hiking backpacks. I own one myself, has a storage space of 70 liters which is more than enough space to carry food for a few days for several people...if you can even find that much food after everything has been stripped clean.
@Skizoker You lucky b*stard,you were in an Abrams....here in Greece we've got 170 Leopard 2A6 HEL,183 Leopard 2A4,501 Leopard 1A5 and 390 M-48A5 MOLF.
We learned about the Leopard 1 and 2A6 when we had to do our vehicle ID to make sure we didn't light any up on accident. If my memory serves me right isn't the Leopard 2A6 about the same weight as the Abrams? 63 tons? And doesn't it also have 120mm main gun? If I recall the Leopard isn't anything to scoff at.
My goal is to avoid the walking dead, not attract them. With the Prius you trade off the ability to run over zombies and go off road, but gain the ability to drive through town being noticed less, and needing significantly less fuel.
I too am a believer in the use of bicycles for food runs and Recon. Vehicles are really only useful for finding long term shelter or moves of desperation.
So you're saying if you're dying of starvation you'd have enough energy to drive a car? Dude, if you're that weak you're not able to do ANYTHING, regardless of the kind of transportation you have. Like Devlonir said, you can have both bikes and cars, use cars only when you have to, and use the bikes to make quick supply runs. Whatever you find can be stuck into backpacks to carry while on the bike. If you don't think that backpacks would be big enough to carry supplies, the time people would realize bikes are better is when they have used up all their gas, so they wouldn't have much choice, PLUS there are those hiking backpacks. I own one myself, has a storage space of 70 liters which is more than enough space to carry food for a few days for several people...if you can even find that much food after everything has been stripped clean.
Dude do you have a Fkng brain that works good ?? A BIKE A FKNG BIKE!? one punch in the face and your down like little chicken.
I dont think you will find supply on the corner shop because everything would be stripped clean like you said, so you have to travel far and i dont think you will travel 5 hours with a bike for some shit supply's that you can use for 7 days or something and i think you woul'd be tired and need some food to eat to recover from your 5 hours bike ride and there will be not every where enough meds and food so you will drive your bike use it and use it you will lose fat and get weaker and die. and i dont think your a professional marathon rider.
Some of my goals of survival is to find weapons and supplies, rescue friendly survivors, take care of my family, and avoid walkers at all times. If my jeep gets stuck I can use the winch line to free my car.
In reality what I'd want is a dirtbike. Yeah, they run on fuel but don't need much, have offroad capabilities, are fast and maneuverable, and if you run out of fuel they're light enough to move on your own so you can hide it until you find gas.
I don't think it's going to be possible to go very far with any standard type of car, and what would be the point anyway? Where the hell do you think you're going? I think the guy who said bicycle was thinking in terms of scavenging missions from a home base area rather than travelling. It's much easier to survive in one place than if you keep moving locations. Of course sometimes you have to move locations. But to me a dirtbike is the best trade-off all-around for scavenging and in a pinch you can travel with it although obviously it's not the best vehicle for that. You can always throw the dirtbike in someone's pickup truck though.
We learned about the Leopard 1 and 2A6 when we had to do our vehicle ID to make sure we didn't light any up on accident. If my memory serves me right isn't the Leopard 2A6 about the same weight as the Abrams? 63 tons? And doesn't it also have 120mm main gun? If I recall the Leopard isn't anything to scoff at.
Sorry what does scoff mean?
Leopard 2A6 if I remember correctly is similar to a lot of stats with the M1A2 Abrams and it outperforms it in some sections.If I find some comparison infographics I'll post them!
M1: Hull & turret – 350 mm vs APFSDS, 700 mm vs HEAT[5][nb 1]
M1A1: Hull & turret – 600 mm vs APFSDS, 700 mm vs HEAT[6]
M1A1HA: Hull – 600 mm vs APFSDS, 700 mm vs HEAT, Turret – 800 mm vs APFSDS, 1,300 mm vs HEAT[6][7][nb 2]
M1A2: Hull (turret) – 600 (780 mm) mm vs APFSDS, 800 mm (1,060 mm) vs HEAT[5][not in citation given]
Main
armament 105 mm L52 M68 rifled cannon (M1)
120 mm L44 M256 smoothbore cannon (M1A1, M1A2, M1A2SEP) with 42 rounds
Secondary
armament 1 × .50-caliber (12.7 mm) M2HB heavy machine gun with 900 rounds
2 × 7.62 mm (.308) M240 machine guns with 8,800 rounds (1 pintle-mounted, 1 coaxial)
Engine Honeywell AGT1500C multi-fuel turbine engine
1,500 shp (1,120 kW)
Power/weight 24.5 hp/t (18.27 kW/t)
Transmission Allison DDA X-1100-3B
Suspension Torsion bar
Ground clearance 0.48 m (1 ft 7 in) (M1, M1A1)
0.43 m (1 ft 5 in) (M1A2)
Fuel capacity 500 US gallons (1,900 l; 420 imp gal)
Operational
range M1A2: 426 km (265 mi)
Speed M1A2: Road 56 km/h (35 mph)
Off-road: 40 km/h (25 mph)
Any old banger I can find. But if I got it my way, realistically speaking, then an old red pick up truck (pretty durable, carries plenty of survivors/supplies)
Or, since irony is top of my list when looking for a car in the ZA, then an old ghostbuster's-type, 1959 cadillac hearse! :P
Oh gee aparently in USA it's raining tanks and there's one in every corner....
Well I live in atlanta and he has a point. there are plenty of bases in the US. I hate to sound stereotypical but a lot of people in the US take pride in weapons, and the military. In other countries weapons are almost taboo.
You are right the average person would not have a clue what to do with a tank. But, I just happen to be someone who spent over 10 years on the M1A1 and does know what to do with a tank.
So, I can't change my answer. That is what type of vehicle I would look for first.
Here is a pic of me and my platoon when we were training to go to Bosnia sometime in 1995.
Well, for some reason this forum is only showing a thumbnail version of the picture and I can't figure out how to show a larger size.
Thats really cool! Thank you for your service in the military I admire our soldiers/veterans in the armed forces very much.
For my choice of vehicle I would want this because there are a lot of them around here and I could requisition one easily. Plus having a standard transmission would be beneficial because most people cant drive a manual transmission at all.
Thats really cool! Thank you for your service in the military I admire our soldiers/veterans in the armed forces very much.
For my choice of vehicle I would want this because there are a lot of them around here and I could requisition one easily. Plus having a standard transmission would be beneficial because most people cant drive a manual transmission at all.
Or I would want to get one of these babies :cool:
You're welcome and thank you for the nice comments.
I wouldn't mind having either vehicle you listed for when you don't need 63 tons of steel :cool:
Well I live in atlanta and he has a point. there are plenty of bases in the US. I hate to sound stereotypical but a lot of people in the US take pride in weapons, and the military. In other countries weapons are almost taboo.
Yeah. I'd be hard pressed to find a simple pistol let alone a rifle in the UK, so I'm screwed unless we come across a police HQ or army base, the latter bing highly unlikely!
(In case you didn't know, it's illegal to be in possesion of firearms in the UK. Only special police, spies or the military carry weapons! No gun stores either, which is pretty safe but not when the world goes to shit!)
One important thing to remember is that gasoline has a short shelf life, so unless you know how to refine your own petroleum into gasoline. Diesel is the way to go. Converting a VW Golf Diesel to run on vegetable oil or even a Ford F-350 may be a better long term solution. Here in the NE, many supermarkets were picked clean due to Hurricane Sandy, but there was no shortage of Crisco and Wesson on store shelves.
Yeah. I'd be hard pressed to find a simple pistol let alone a rifle in the UK, so I'm screwed unless we come across a police HQ or army base, the latter bing highly unlikely!
(In case you didn't know, it's illegal to be in possesion of firearms in the UK. Only special police, spies or the military carry weapons! No gun stores either, which is pretty safe but not when the world goes to shit!)
Your semi-right.. I have looked up UK gun laws out of simple curiosity and basically they are not illegal to own, one just needs to apply and show proof for the need of a certain kind of gun.
Your semi-right.. I have looked up UK gun laws out of simple curiosity and basically they are not illegal to own, one just needs to apply and show proof for the need of a certain kind of gun.
yeah there are actually lots of guns in england, but nobody (with the odd exception) wants them in people's houses or just generally in the hands of people that don't need them (self defence doesn't count as needing them), but military bases and police stations would have loads of guns and people that live in the countryside may have some rifles or shotguns for hunting and pest control, and then of course the are illegal guns as well.
i dont get why lee and them didnt just use the train as their base
its basically a frikken armored vehicle
trains require a shit ton of diesel and battery. once it runs out youre screwed. once it hits the end of the train line, youre screwed because it didnt have a rear engine to it. i dont think trains can go backwards considering all the diesel trains i see always has a foward and rear engine. and lastly, they dont know the train system well, they wouldnt know when to switch the tracks to keep from reaching the end.
Doesn't even have to leave the dock. Just raise the gang planks.
Huge kitchens, plenty of entertainment, lots of storage space, great views, build in pool. Built in Generators. hehehe. And if we want we can go to that island that Disney Owns (not densely populated) and clear it out.
Yea, you're trying to be realistic.. The vast majority to survivors in a ZA would not have access to a tank or other military weapons/vehicles. But there are those who could. I remember watching the show as the group passed by over-run military area's and wonder why no one is grabbing the weapons, or vehicles.
well, most of the placement guns you see are M2 50 calibers and such. those are heavy and so is the ammunition from it. i think, i think. just think. that they didnt take the weapons because rick already had a bag of guns and ammunition (plus the fact that lori didnt like guns) and tanks attract alot of noise. they are very. very. loud and you can even feel the tremors from them. walkers will be all over it. you run out of gas? well you got walkers all over you. most military vehicles are loud. some APC's on the other hand, they're moderately quiet and fast and armoured so thats my choice vehicle (LAV-25).
well, most of the placement guns you see are M2 50 calibers and such. those are heavy and so is the ammunition from it. i think, i think. just think. that they didnt take the weapons because rick already had a bag of guns and ammunition (plus the fact that lori didnt like guns) and tanks attract alot of noise. they are very. very. loud and you can even feel the tremors from them. walkers will be all over it. you run out of gas? well you got walkers all over you. most military vehicles are loud. some APC's on the other hand, they're moderately quiet and fast and armoured so thats my choice vehicle (LAV-25).
That isn't entirely true. Tanks used to be very very loud. The M1A1 uses a gas turbine engine and in my opinion makes less noise than an APC.
Now when the main gun fires that is an entirely different story But, I don't think it would be used a whole lot in a zombie apocalypse.
That isn't entirely true. Tanks used to be very very loud. The M1A1 uses a gas turbine engine and in my opinion makes less noise than an APC.
Now when the main gun fires that is an entirely different story But, I don't think it would be used a whole lot in a zombie apocalypse.
I think the noise of the tracks on asphalt are a lot more than an APC does when travelling. And the fact that you can literally feel it in the ground when a tank moves is also very much true.
Don't forget: TWD Armies probably got beaten because their movements probably attracted every zombie in a huge radius to come over towards them. If you already see how strongly they react to one helicopter flying over or a train coming by, how would they react to a tank rolling by?
I think the noise of the tracks on asphalt are a lot more than an APC does when travelling. And the fact that you can literally feel it in the ground when a tank moves is also very much true.
Don't forget: TWD Armies probably got beaten because their movements probably attracted every zombie in a huge radius to come over towards them. If you already see how strongly they react to one helicopter flying over or a train coming by, how would they react to a tank rolling by?
M1A1 have rubber pads on the track and don't make extremely loud noises. It isn't quiet by any means but it doesn't require hearing protection.
Here is a few youtube videos. The only time the tank makes an obscene amount of noise is when you punch it and the turbine winds up really high, it can be pretty tactical if you know what you are doing.
Plus this next video shows you some of the stuff you can get through...
And as to how they would react to a tank rolling by? Do you have any idea what a tank would do to a zombie? You could literally probably drive over thousands of them and nothing they could do would stop the tank.
Tankers call enemy infantry "Track grease" for a reason.
And as to how they would react to a tank rolling by? Do you have any idea what a tank would do to a zombie? You could literally probably drive over thousands of them and nothing they could do would stop the tank.
Tankers call enemy infantry "Track grease" for a reason.
Some impressive vids, and okay.. modern tanks are probably more quiet than old ones. But the point here is not really what you can do while you can use the tank. The risk with a tank is getting a lot of Walker attention.. Indeed, walkers can't stop the tank.. but eventually the tank has to stop regardless. And once the eventual moment occurs you are out of gas and/or ammo and need to get out the chances are very big that your vehicle has attracted more Walkers than it could have killed.
This is exactly why I support the idea of using a bike for missions while having cars/RV's around a base camp if you need to change your area of operation because you are out supplies or there are too many Walkers in the area.
Some impressive vids, and okay.. modern tanks are probably more quiet than old ones. But the point here is not really what you can do while you can use the tank. The risk with a tank is getting a lot of Walker attention.. Indeed, walkers can't stop the tank.. but eventually the tank has to stop regardless. And once the eventual moment occurs you are out of gas and/or ammo and need to get out the chances are very big that your vehicle has attracted more Walkers than it could have killed.
This is exactly why I support the idea of using a bike for missions while having cars/RV's around a base camp if you need to change your area of operation because you are out supplies or there are too many Walkers in the area.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I feel entirely confident I could keep a tank supplied with fuel and if I ever were not able to I guess I would have to find a different mode of transportation.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I feel entirely confident I could keep a tank supplied with fuel and if I ever were not able to I guess I would have to find a different mode of transportation.
This isn't about keeping it supplied. This is that eventually, at one moment, you'll have to get out of the thing again. And the size/sound combination makes it attract a lot of attention. My point is: You will have a lot less rest from Walkers while driving one. And you can't survive just staying inside the tank 24/7.
Not saying it's impossible though. With a support crew and a homebase that you can keep walker free (say, an aircraft hangar where you can drive your tank into and keep all doors closed) you can survive for a long time. But actually going from A to B in it is less practical than other modes of transportation.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I feel entirely confident I could keep a tank supplied with fuel and if I ever were not able to I guess I would have to find a different mode of transportation.
You couldn't keep it supplied with anything else. No decent storage space. Firearms, Ammo, Food. Clothes. All that stuff takes up a lot of space.
And if it's gasoline, then you have the same problem of the fuel breaking down and causing issues. Diesel doesn't have that problem.
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So you're saying if you're dying of starvation you'd have enough energy to drive a car? Dude, if you're that weak you're not able to do ANYTHING, regardless of the kind of transportation you have. Like Devlonir said, you can have both bikes and cars, use cars only when you have to, and use the bikes to make quick supply runs. Whatever you find can be stuck into backpacks to carry while on the bike. If you don't think that backpacks would be big enough to carry supplies, the time people would realize bikes are better is when they have used up all their gas, so they wouldn't have much choice, PLUS there are those hiking backpacks. I own one myself, has a storage space of 70 liters which is more than enough space to carry food for a few days for several people...if you can even find that much food after everything has been stripped clean.
We learned about the Leopard 1 and 2A6 when we had to do our vehicle ID to make sure we didn't light any up on accident. If my memory serves me right isn't the Leopard 2A6 about the same weight as the Abrams? 63 tons? And doesn't it also have 120mm main gun? If I recall the Leopard isn't anything to scoff at.
My goal is to avoid the walking dead, not attract them. With the Prius you trade off the ability to run over zombies and go off road, but gain the ability to drive through town being noticed less, and needing significantly less fuel.
I too am a believer in the use of bicycles for food runs and Recon. Vehicles are really only useful for finding long term shelter or moves of desperation.
Dude do you have a Fkng brain that works good ?? A BIKE A FKNG BIKE!? one punch in the face and your down like little chicken.
I dont think you will find supply on the corner shop because everything would be stripped clean like you said, so you have to travel far and i dont think you will travel 5 hours with a bike for some shit supply's that you can use for 7 days or something and i think you woul'd be tired and need some food to eat to recover from your 5 hours bike ride and there will be not every where enough meds and food so you will drive your bike use it and use it you will lose fat and get weaker and die. and i dont think your a professional marathon rider.
Some of my goals of survival is to find weapons and supplies, rescue friendly survivors, take care of my family, and avoid walkers at all times. If my jeep gets stuck I can use the winch line to free my car.
Ideal for drive-by shooting... ;-)
Of course this is a joke.
In reality what I'd want is a dirtbike. Yeah, they run on fuel but don't need much, have offroad capabilities, are fast and maneuverable, and if you run out of fuel they're light enough to move on your own so you can hide it until you find gas.
I don't think it's going to be possible to go very far with any standard type of car, and what would be the point anyway? Where the hell do you think you're going? I think the guy who said bicycle was thinking in terms of scavenging missions from a home base area rather than travelling. It's much easier to survive in one place than if you keep moving locations. Of course sometimes you have to move locations. But to me a dirtbike is the best trade-off all-around for scavenging and in a pinch you can travel with it although obviously it's not the best vehicle for that. You can always throw the dirtbike in someone's pickup truck though.
Sorry what does scoff mean?
Leopard 2A6 if I remember correctly is similar to a lot of stats with the M1A2 Abrams and it outperforms it in some sections.If I find some comparison infographics I'll post them!
scoff/skôf/
Verb:
Speak to someone or about something in a scornfully derisive or mocking way: "department officials scoffed at the allegations".
Noun:
An expression of scornful derision.
Synonyms:
verb. mock - jeer - deride - gibe - sneer - ridicule - flout
noun. mockery - derision - ridicule - taunt - gibe - jeer
Or in the more common use: To take lightly
Armour 2A6: 3rd generation composite; including high-hardness steel, tungsten and plastic filler with ceramic component.
Main
armament 1 x 120 mm Rheinmetall L55 smoothbore gun[1]
42 rounds
Secondary
armament 2 x 7.62 mm MG3A1[1]
4,750 rounds
Engine MTU MB 873 Ka-501 liquid-cooled V-12 Twin-turbo diesel engine
1,500 PS (1,479 hp, 1,103 kW) at 2,600 rpm
Power/weight 24.1 PS/t (17.7 kW/t)
Transmission Renk HSWL 354
Suspension Torsion-bar suspension
Fuel capacity 1,200 liters[3](317 US gallons; 264 imp. gal)
Operational
range 550 km (340 mi) (internal fuel)
Speed 72 km/h (45 mph)
M1A1 Abrams
Armor Chobham, RH armor, depleted uranium strike plates, Kevlar mesh[citation needed]
M1: Hull & turret – 350 mm vs APFSDS, 700 mm vs HEAT[5][nb 1]
M1A1: Hull & turret – 600 mm vs APFSDS, 700 mm vs HEAT[6]
M1A1HA: Hull – 600 mm vs APFSDS, 700 mm vs HEAT, Turret – 800 mm vs APFSDS, 1,300 mm vs HEAT[6][7][nb 2]
M1A2: Hull (turret) – 600 (780 mm) mm vs APFSDS, 800 mm (1,060 mm) vs HEAT[5][not in citation given]
Main
armament 105 mm L52 M68 rifled cannon (M1)
120 mm L44 M256 smoothbore cannon (M1A1, M1A2, M1A2SEP) with 42 rounds
Secondary
armament 1 × .50-caliber (12.7 mm) M2HB heavy machine gun with 900 rounds
2 × 7.62 mm (.308) M240 machine guns with 8,800 rounds (1 pintle-mounted, 1 coaxial)
Engine Honeywell AGT1500C multi-fuel turbine engine
1,500 shp (1,120 kW)
Power/weight 24.5 hp/t (18.27 kW/t)
Transmission Allison DDA X-1100-3B
Suspension Torsion bar
Ground clearance 0.48 m (1 ft 7 in) (M1, M1A1)
0.43 m (1 ft 5 in) (M1A2)
Fuel capacity 500 US gallons (1,900 l; 420 imp gal)
Operational
range M1A2: 426 km (265 mi)
Speed M1A2: Road 56 km/h (35 mph)
Off-road: 40 km/h (25 mph)
Or, since irony is top of my list when looking for a car in the ZA, then an old ghostbuster's-type, 1959 cadillac hearse! :P
Well I live in atlanta and he has a point. there are plenty of bases in the US. I hate to sound stereotypical but a lot of people in the US take pride in weapons, and the military. In other countries weapons are almost taboo.
A motherfucking Zeppelin.
- doesnt need fuel to stay up in the air
- i can fly wherever the fuck I want
- spit out of the window on pesky little survivors and zombies
Thats really cool! Thank you for your service in the military I admire our soldiers/veterans in the armed forces very much.
For my choice of vehicle I would want this because there are a lot of them around here and I could requisition one easily. Plus having a standard transmission would be beneficial because most people cant drive a manual transmission at all.
Or I would want to get one of these babies :cool:
You're welcome and thank you for the nice comments.
I wouldn't mind having either vehicle you listed for when you don't need 63 tons of steel :cool:
with lots of fuel in the back :P
this is stationed at my city (HMS Montrose)
(In case you didn't know, it's illegal to be in possesion of firearms in the UK. Only special police, spies or the military carry weapons! No gun stores either, which is pretty safe but not when the world goes to shit!)
Who the fck needs gas ?!
Your semi-right.. I have looked up UK gun laws out of simple curiosity and basically they are not illegal to own, one just needs to apply and show proof for the need of a certain kind of gun.
If interested, here's a link with a little more detail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom
this would be awsome
perfect for mowing down zombies this thing is awesome
yeah there are actually lots of guns in england, but nobody (with the odd exception) wants them in people's houses or just generally in the hands of people that don't need them (self defence doesn't count as needing them), but military bases and police stations would have loads of guns and people that live in the countryside may have some rifles or shotguns for hunting and pest control, and then of course the are illegal guns as well.
here is a picture.
http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/raptor/ For land excusions.
For my new house: http://blog.cavotec.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/carnival-cruise_ship.jpg
Doesn't even have to leave the dock. Just raise the gang planks.
Huge kitchens, plenty of entertainment, lots of storage space, great views, build in pool. Built in Generators. hehehe. And if we want we can go to that island that Disney Owns (not densely populated) and clear it out.
well, most of the placement guns you see are M2 50 calibers and such. those are heavy and so is the ammunition from it. i think, i think. just think. that they didnt take the weapons because rick already had a bag of guns and ammunition (plus the fact that lori didnt like guns) and tanks attract alot of noise. they are very. very. loud and you can even feel the tremors from them. walkers will be all over it. you run out of gas? well you got walkers all over you. most military vehicles are loud. some APC's on the other hand, they're moderately quiet and fast and armoured so thats my choice vehicle (LAV-25).
That isn't entirely true. Tanks used to be very very loud. The M1A1 uses a gas turbine engine and in my opinion makes less noise than an APC.
Now when the main gun fires that is an entirely different story
I think the noise of the tracks on asphalt are a lot more than an APC does when travelling. And the fact that you can literally feel it in the ground when a tank moves is also very much true.
Don't forget: TWD Armies probably got beaten because their movements probably attracted every zombie in a huge radius to come over towards them. If you already see how strongly they react to one helicopter flying over or a train coming by, how would they react to a tank rolling by?
M1A1 have rubber pads on the track and don't make extremely loud noises. It isn't quiet by any means but it doesn't require hearing protection.
Here is a few youtube videos. The only time the tank makes an obscene amount of noise is when you punch it and the turbine winds up really high, it can be pretty tactical if you know what you are doing.
Plus this next video shows you some of the stuff you can get through...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCXwgPZXScM
Here is one of a road test during OSUT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltqh-DYIx4o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP8B9YjK09I&feature=related
And as to how they would react to a tank rolling by? Do you have any idea what a tank would do to a zombie? You could literally probably drive over thousands of them and nothing they could do would stop the tank.
Tankers call enemy infantry "Track grease" for a reason.
Some impressive vids, and okay.. modern tanks are probably more quiet than old ones. But the point here is not really what you can do while you can use the tank. The risk with a tank is getting a lot of Walker attention.. Indeed, walkers can't stop the tank.. but eventually the tank has to stop regardless. And once the eventual moment occurs you are out of gas and/or ammo and need to get out the chances are very big that your vehicle has attracted more Walkers than it could have killed.
This is exactly why I support the idea of using a bike for missions while having cars/RV's around a base camp if you need to change your area of operation because you are out supplies or there are too many Walkers in the area.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I feel entirely confident I could keep a tank supplied with fuel and if I ever were not able to I guess I would have to find a different mode of transportation.
This isn't about keeping it supplied. This is that eventually, at one moment, you'll have to get out of the thing again. And the size/sound combination makes it attract a lot of attention. My point is: You will have a lot less rest from Walkers while driving one. And you can't survive just staying inside the tank 24/7.
Not saying it's impossible though. With a support crew and a homebase that you can keep walker free (say, an aircraft hangar where you can drive your tank into and keep all doors closed) you can survive for a long time. But actually going from A to B in it is less practical than other modes of transportation.
You couldn't keep it supplied with anything else. No decent storage space. Firearms, Ammo, Food. Clothes. All that stuff takes up a lot of space.
And if it's gasoline, then you have the same problem of the fuel breaking down and causing issues. Diesel doesn't have that problem.