Actually, that Rue girl's actress looks like she could play Clem if she ever appeared on the TV show
She's exactly what I pictured Clem would look like in real life
Just give her some green contacts and a hat and you got Clem!
Same here.. some people.. The worst bit is that people wanna act 'hipster' by proving they read the book through disliking this.. but all they proved is being stupid because they just didn't register the fact that she was described as being dark skinned..
I always thought Clem was blasian though for the most part I didn't care about characters ethnicity. I mean just because Lee is urban doesn't mean he can pick locks and just because Kenny is white and from Florida doesn't make him a racist idiot. People are people, it's what you do that should determine what people think of you not what you look like.
There's actually a really nice article on the making of Clementine in this month's Game Informer that talks about Clementine's character development. They originally planned to have Clementine be the younger sister of the original player character who was a young man who's parents had just been killed and was raising Clem on his own, but this was changed because they didn't want to drop players into a pre-existing relationship, as they didn't think that would work as well in the world of The Walking Dead. When they came up with Lee as the player character, they made Clementine African-American because they wanted it to seem like Clem could be his daughter.
Another interesting thing (although off-topic) in there is that her trademark baseball cap with the letter D on it that was given to her by her father was actually based on a cap that the daughter of the lead artist (Darek Sakai) wears in real life. In fact, Clementine's entire fashion sense (dress with boyish ball cap) is based on Darek Sakai's daughter.
Actually, that Rue girl's actress looks like she could play Clem if she ever appeared on the TV show
She's exactly what I pictured Clem would look like in real life
Just give her some green contacts and a hat and you got Clem!
I mean, just look!
Pretty close, yea.
Just add a tiny bit of asian and we have clem.
Have yet to see an ethnic group in Asia that resemble African-Americans. You say potato, I say 'sure, alright'.
Well, you'd be technically wrong.
Like someone said earlier... Asia is "Fucking big", and people don't usually stay put it one place. That applies particularly to the island nations of Southeast Asia. You see, the dominant ethnicity of maritime Southeast Asia (i.e. excluding most of Indochina) is Austronesian, which is not "Asian" in the most common American definition of the word (which basically equates it with East Asians - the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, and Indochinese). The most common American image of Austronesians are of Polynesians, who are a subset of the Austronesian peoples. Austronesians are, to describe them in a single word, "islanders". They're a maritime culture, having spread throughout almost half of the Earth's oceans in nothing but small boats. They can be found from as far west as Madagascar to as far east as Rapa Nui. Their southernmost branch are the Māori of New Zealand, and in the north, the minority aboriginal groups of Taiwan and southern China.
And Austronesians look pretty different from East Asians. While Austronesians commonly exhibit the phenotype of the slightly slanted eyes, they rarely actually have epicanthic folds (the fold of skin on the inner corners of the upper eyelids connecting it with the nose). That feature is more common among East Asians, Central Asians, the Indochinese, the Khoisan of Africa, and peoples along the Arctic circle (including the more northernmost European peoples; Björk, an Icelander, being a well-known example). Austronesians also usually have deep brown skin and naturally slightly wavy to yes, curly hair, again in contrast to East Asians.
More particularly, there's a number of unrelated ethnic groups in Southeast Asia that closely resemble Africans. They look so much alike that they were referred to by the Spanish as "Negritos" (literally 'little black people'). They're some of the original peoples in maritime Southeast Asia and can still be found in the Nicobar islands, the Andamans, parts of Indonesia and Malaysia, and are most numerous in the Philippines. There's also the Melanesians of eastern Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, and western Oceania, another unrelated ethnic group which also exhibit traits that are very much African, though they have a much wider variety of hair color (light brown to blond hair occurs naturally and fairly frequently among Melanesians).
And it is in the Philippines (particularly in the southern islands), the easternmost islands of Indonesia (particularly in New Guinea), and parts of Oceania (e.g. the Solomon Islands and Samoa), where Austronesians have intermixed the most with Negrito groups and Melanesians. It's not at all unusual to find the traits of tightly curled hair nor of fuller lips there. The same with Madagascar, where Austronesians have actually intermarried with Africans coming in from the mainland. And yes, they look a lot like Clem's mom. While almost half of Austronesians are technically not "Asian", they originated from and are still present in Southeast Asia. Here are two pictures of Austronesian women:
Note that I'm not saying Clem's mom was Asian, just saying that some Asians do indeed look African. That said, I also thought Clem was mixed ethnicity. It would still make her Black though... by most definitions, anyway.
But I also didn't think Christa was Black at all. I thought she was Latina or South Asian.
she isn't asian but she has some asian attributes in her looks. maybe grandparents or smth
Nah. If you'll notice her light colored eyes (an attribute that neither blacks or asians have) you'll see that she is mixed, but with caucasian not asian.
Nah. If you'll notice her light colored eyes (an attribute that neither blacks or asians have)
Wrong. Plenty of asian areas have light colored eyes. And the shape of her eyes is rather slit, another asian attribute, usually not to be found in caucasian areas.. not even to mention her skin color. definitely some asian in there. her mom (picture next to answering machine also shows many signs of asian mix, most likely some Asian Filipino influence).
then again, this is a game. A person designing the characters might just do their thing without paying too much attention to exact biological genetic attributes.
Wrong. Plenty of asian areas have light colored eyes. And the shape of her eyes is rather slit, another asian attribute, usually not to be found in caucasian areas.. not even to mention her skin color. definitely some asian in there. her mom (picture next to answering machine also shows many signs of asian mix, most likely some Asian Filipino influence).
then again, this is a game. A person designing the characters might just do their thing without paying too much attention to exact biological genetic attributes.
I know a ton of asians, I mean a TON. Hmong's, filipino's, chinese, japanese, not one has light colored eyes (excluding the ones that use color contacts), and NONE of them have eyes shaped like Clems. She IS black, not asian. The makers even said they changed her race from caucasian so that people in the game could make the mistake of thinking that she is Lee's daughter, that's why Clem wasn't white, why change her race to match with Lee and then still leave room for ambiguity by making her half asian? You are reading way to much to her having the slightest hint of a "slit" to her eyes :rolleyes: Lastly there is a skin color that exists amongst blacks (I've heard it refered to as high yellow in certain movies) that matches Clems skin tone perfectly, that makes it far from being certain that there is "definitely some asian in there".
why are you arguing about it, i thought Clementine may have been asian at first, but the dev's have said she is black, so i was wrong, maybe they could have made that more clear but nit picking details wont make her change her race
why are you arguing about it, i thought Clementine may have been asian at first, but the dev's have said she is black, so i was wrong, maybe they could have made that more clear but nit picking details wont make her change her race
I never said she wasn't black. I said she was african american from the very beginning. All I said was that her looks imply that she is a mix. and that she had asian influence. That is all.
i think we can all conclude she isn't pure black. she definately had some mixes may it be caucasian or asian. personally i always thought she was asian but whatever. this topic is pointless anyways since this isn't a real person but just someone who was drawing someone. could be any race without any proof to back it up since the person doesnt really exist. her looks scream to me: 80% black 20% asian.
Okay maybe blue and green eyes are very uncommon among asians, but a lighter brown/hazel definitely IS NOT.
Gee, she looks kind of mixed, Almost like she isn't completely asian, almost like one of her parents (or grand parents, or great grand parents) is white. You know there have been a lot of GI's over in asian countries for many many years (many of them feel a sense of shame about having some caucasian heritage, that's where the term son of a gun comes from, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if she didn't choose to share the fact that she is mixed). You say that she isn't mixed, I say you are full of BS.
You know, this is starting to bring out a negative side of me. I apologize to anyone that I may have offended, we are all entitled to our own opinions, and I'm sorry for being rude and argumentative, it was uncalled for and just not necessary. Again, I'm sorry for being a jerk, from now on Clem can be as asian as anyone wants her to be and I won't say a word against it.
wow you are constantly contradicting yourself. she is korean. she is asian. by your logic no one can be assigned to any race because maybe everyone has some mix 20+ generations ahead.
Clem DOES look asian. there are like 20 people in this thread who already said this and a couple of hundreds on the subreddit. Your logic was that Clem can't be asian-mix because she has a lighter eyecolor. I posted pictures proofing you wrong.
Even if Go Ara wasn't full asian (which she is btw, full korean) - what tells us clems ancestors weren't asian-mixes with lighter eyes like go ara themselves? Gosh this is just getting dumb, huge troll who is constantly contradicting himself, I'm done wasting my time. She definitely looks like a african-american/asian mix (read others on this thread please). She looks absolutely nothing like any Caucasian I have ever seen. And I am white myself in a white country. Cya
wow you are constantly contradicting yourself. she is korean. she is asian.
I take it you missed my last post. Also, we fought a war in Korea, there were GI's there, and they had sex with the local girls passing on caucasian features, so I see no contradiction there. I'm not bothering to read the rest of what you wrote, because if you will read my last post you will see that I apologized, and I have no interest in fighting about this anymore. I'm sorry that I've gotten you so worked up.
I'm not bothering to read the rest of what you wrote
Just wow. Then stop posting all together please because I didn't miss anything, but how can you tell without reading anything. Anyways, I take your apology. It was stupid indeed. Now move on.
Just wow. Then stop posting all together please because I didn't miss anything, but how can you tell without reading anything. Anyways, I take your apology. It was stupid indeed. Now move on.
Oh, I got the point you were making, I just disagreed with it, after that I stopped reading because I didn't want to feel compelled to start it up again. Either way it's over now.
So whats the conclusion does she look asian or not??? I need more action: GO CONTINUE (FIGHT!!!) XDD
At this point I'm 99% sure she is a mixture of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hmong, Vietnamese, and Filipino. I don't know where people got the idea that she's black, I mean what's up with that.
At this point I'm 99% sure she is a mixture of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hmong, Vietnamese, and Filipino. I don't know where people got the idea that she's black, I mean what's up with that.
Nice try to be sarcastic but I would like to remind you of what I said before:
I never said she wasn't black. I said she was african american from the very beginning. All I said was that her looks imply that she is a mix. and that she had asian influence. That is all.
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Exactly. People go crazy over that stuff, and Rue wasn't even that dark. Imagine if she was of a darker complexion.
She's exactly what I pictured Clem would look like in real life
Just give her some green contacts and a hat and you got Clem!
I mean, just look!
Same here.. some people.. The worst bit is that people wanna act 'hipster' by proving they read the book through disliking this.. but all they proved is being stupid because they just didn't register the fact that she was described as being dark skinned..
I'm sorry, but there is nothing about this picture which makes her look even partly asian. She looks like a light skinned black/caucasian mix woman
Fair enough.
You are right. She is alive, and this is the main thing. She did not very much like the african- american , I think she half afro, half white
She's short, and wears a hat. Gotta be a smurf.
Another interesting thing (although off-topic) in there is that her trademark baseball cap with the letter D on it that was given to her by her father was actually based on a cap that the daughter of the lead artist (Darek Sakai) wears in real life. In fact, Clementine's entire fashion sense (dress with boyish ball cap) is based on Darek Sakai's daughter.
Pretty close, yea.
Just add a tiny bit of asian and we have clem.
Well, you'd be technically wrong.
Like someone said earlier... Asia is "Fucking big", and people don't usually stay put it one place. That applies particularly to the island nations of Southeast Asia. You see, the dominant ethnicity of maritime Southeast Asia (i.e. excluding most of Indochina) is Austronesian, which is not "Asian" in the most common American definition of the word (which basically equates it with East Asians - the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, and Indochinese). The most common American image of Austronesians are of Polynesians, who are a subset of the Austronesian peoples. Austronesians are, to describe them in a single word, "islanders". They're a maritime culture, having spread throughout almost half of the Earth's oceans in nothing but small boats. They can be found from as far west as Madagascar to as far east as Rapa Nui. Their southernmost branch are the Māori of New Zealand, and in the north, the minority aboriginal groups of Taiwan and southern China.
And Austronesians look pretty different from East Asians. While Austronesians commonly exhibit the phenotype of the slightly slanted eyes, they rarely actually have epicanthic folds (the fold of skin on the inner corners of the upper eyelids connecting it with the nose). That feature is more common among East Asians, Central Asians, the Indochinese, the Khoisan of Africa, and peoples along the Arctic circle (including the more northernmost European peoples; Björk, an Icelander, being a well-known example). Austronesians also usually have deep brown skin and naturally slightly wavy to yes, curly hair, again in contrast to East Asians.
More particularly, there's a number of unrelated ethnic groups in Southeast Asia that closely resemble Africans. They look so much alike that they were referred to by the Spanish as "Negritos" (literally 'little black people'). They're some of the original peoples in maritime Southeast Asia and can still be found in the Nicobar islands, the Andamans, parts of Indonesia and Malaysia, and are most numerous in the Philippines. There's also the Melanesians of eastern Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, and western Oceania, another unrelated ethnic group which also exhibit traits that are very much African, though they have a much wider variety of hair color (light brown to blond hair occurs naturally and fairly frequently among Melanesians).
And it is in the Philippines (particularly in the southern islands), the easternmost islands of Indonesia (particularly in New Guinea), and parts of Oceania (e.g. the Solomon Islands and Samoa), where Austronesians have intermixed the most with Negrito groups and Melanesians. It's not at all unusual to find the traits of tightly curled hair nor of fuller lips there. The same with Madagascar, where Austronesians have actually intermarried with Africans coming in from the mainland. And yes, they look a lot like Clem's mom. While almost half of Austronesians are technically not "Asian", they originated from and are still present in Southeast Asia. Here are two pictures of Austronesian women:
Loreto Paras-Sulit, a Filipina writer:
A young Samoan woman:
Note that I'm not saying Clem's mom was Asian, just saying that some Asians do indeed look African. That said, I also thought Clem was mixed ethnicity. It would still make her Black though... by most definitions, anyway.
But I also didn't think Christa was Black at all. I thought she was Latina or South Asian.
Or don't add any asian, since Clem isn't.
Nah. If you'll notice her light colored eyes (an attribute that neither blacks or asians have) you'll see that she is mixed, but with caucasian not asian.
Wrong. Plenty of asian areas have light colored eyes. And the shape of her eyes is rather slit, another asian attribute, usually not to be found in caucasian areas.. not even to mention her skin color. definitely some asian in there. her mom (picture next to answering machine also shows many signs of asian mix, most likely some Asian Filipino influence).
then again, this is a game. A person designing the characters might just do their thing without paying too much attention to exact biological genetic attributes.
I know a ton of asians, I mean a TON. Hmong's, filipino's, chinese, japanese, not one has light colored eyes (excluding the ones that use color contacts), and NONE of them have eyes shaped like Clems. She IS black, not asian. The makers even said they changed her race from caucasian so that people in the game could make the mistake of thinking that she is Lee's daughter, that's why Clem wasn't white, why change her race to match with Lee and then still leave room for ambiguity by making her half asian? You are reading way to much to her having the slightest hint of a "slit" to her eyes :rolleyes: Lastly there is a skin color that exists amongst blacks (I've heard it refered to as high yellow in certain movies) that matches Clems skin tone perfectly, that makes it far from being certain that there is "definitely some asian in there".
Example of Clems eyecolor:
(you can look it up, name is Go Ara, no contact lenses and no known caucasians ancestors). This is just one example, there are hundreds of thousands of asian people with lighter eyes.
http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/8516/218576980966256017o7rm.jpg
http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/6646/khotonnuur9pr.jpg
http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/2435/18095093a8eabdca619md.jpg
Okay maybe blue and green eyes are very uncommon among asians, but a lighter brown/hazel definitely IS NOT.
I never said she wasn't black. I said she was african american from the very beginning. All I said was that her looks imply that she is a mix. and that she had asian influence. That is all.
Gee, she looks kind of mixed, Almost like she isn't completely asian, almost like one of her parents (or grand parents, or great grand parents) is white. You know there have been a lot of GI's over in asian countries for many many years (many of them feel a sense of shame about having some caucasian heritage, that's where the term son of a gun comes from, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if she didn't choose to share the fact that she is mixed). You say that she isn't mixed, I say you are full of BS.
Clem DOES look asian. there are like 20 people in this thread who already said this and a couple of hundreds on the subreddit. Your logic was that Clem can't be asian-mix because she has a lighter eyecolor. I posted pictures proofing you wrong.
Even if Go Ara wasn't full asian (which she is btw, full korean) - what tells us clems ancestors weren't asian-mixes with lighter eyes like go ara themselves? Gosh this is just getting dumb, huge troll who is constantly contradicting himself, I'm done wasting my time. She definitely looks like a african-american/asian mix (read others on this thread please). She looks absolutely nothing like any Caucasian I have ever seen. And I am white myself in a white country. Cya
I take it you missed my last post. Also, we fought a war in Korea, there were GI's there, and they had sex with the local girls passing on caucasian features, so I see no contradiction there. I'm not bothering to read the rest of what you wrote, because if you will read my last post you will see that I apologized, and I have no interest in fighting about this anymore. I'm sorry that I've gotten you so worked up.
Just wow. Then stop posting all together please because I didn't miss anything, but how can you tell without reading anything. Anyways, I take your apology. It was stupid indeed. Now move on.
Hey, I already got off of the wheel. I'm just trying to make nice, now.
Oh, I got the point you were making, I just disagreed with it, after that I stopped reading because I didn't want to feel compelled to start it up again. Either way it's over now.
At this point I'm 99% sure she is a mixture of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Hmong, Vietnamese, and Filipino. I don't know where people got the idea that she's black, I mean what's up with that.
Nice try to be sarcastic but I would like to remind you of what I said before: