Why did **** "Sacrifice" himself?
"We're gonna find clementime, with or without you, Lee"
*later*
"Oh, nope. Just gonna kill myself, not like I care about what happens to clementime or If Lee doesn't make it"
Really? He could have just shot Ben then go with Lee, wouldn't take long, sure the walkers would go to them, but they can't climb ladders, and they would be long gone before they could even get up.
I know Kenny doesn't got a family left, and the boat is gone, but he cared for Lee and Clementime, and I doubt he'd just forget that and die for nothing.
Why did you think he did it? Was it a legit reason? Do you think the his death was a good death or just a "Let's just get this character over with" death.
*later*
"Oh, nope. Just gonna kill myself, not like I care about what happens to clementime or If Lee doesn't make it"
Really? He could have just shot Ben then go with Lee, wouldn't take long, sure the walkers would go to them, but they can't climb ladders, and they would be long gone before they could even get up.
I know Kenny doesn't got a family left, and the boat is gone, but he cared for Lee and Clementime, and I doubt he'd just forget that and die for nothing.
Why did you think he did it? Was it a legit reason? Do you think the his death was a good death or just a "Let's just get this character over with" death.
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Besides, he wanted Clem to survive, and wanted to get her back, he wouldn't just give that up and choose to die.
Honestly, I don't think he could have walked out of there sane after leaving Ben there to die. Not after finally symphatizing with the kid. His conscience would eat him up, he's that kind of guy.
"There's no way in this world God would have let me keep my child when I helped kill another's"
He even said "You don't just end it cause it's hard. You stick it out, and you help the folks you care about." —Kenny talking to the group about suicide
Aka, helping Lee finding Clem.
Christa: he knew as evidence by his expression in the attic when she drank the bottle that she was pregnant.
Ben: he never looked from his perspective and realized he was wrong.
I think he did it for himself. He didn't want to any more.
BUT, something tells me that it has to do with what I've been saying countless times... Some scenes must've been cut out from the final product. Something else must've lead up to Kenny's total breakdown.
He was wishing Ben was dead and when the kid put things into perspective-he realized just how wrong and selfish he had been. He really started relating to the kid, and if he somehow were to die, I'm sure he would blame himself for wishing Ben was dead all along. Proof of that is as soon as Ben falls, he says "Me and my fuckin' mouth". He blames himself.
There's no way Kenny would be able to live with himself if he let Ben die there alone. That's just how he is and there's only so much one can take.
Really, I think you'd only understand why he did if you'd been his friend all along and got to really know him and how he works during the game. Kenny haters would never understand
If you pay close attention to his dialogue leading up to that point, mainly in the attic, and especially the room with the dead couple, he seems to come to terms that to have gotten as far as they did, he had to become hardened and also had to do some horrible things, sometimes not caring about others to "do what needed to be done". Originally for his family and himself, and when he lost him.. All he had left was the group.
In my opinion, he accepted he'd probably die and stayed behind to put Ben out of his misery, full well knowing he'd probably be bitten or dragged down and eaten. But he still fought back and tried to run.
Yeah, but he couldn't get out of there, when it's ben, he can escape but he doesn't.
Not after wishing he was dead and then hearing Ben's story about his own family.
In the Ben case, I guess the balcony wouldn't have come loose with 2 less people jumping on it.
In Christa's case, I guess they would ignore the walkie talkie
Also, if Ben DID fall off, do you think Kenny would still would have suicided, leaving no one to take care of Clem?
In the room with the dead couple he said he could've done much more... when you reply that he's done as much as he could, he says that he should have been a better husband and a better father and he put his whole pre-apocalyptic life in a new perspective. When he makes a mistake on the roof (I killed Ben) and a walkie drops down, he reflects on his thoughts that he needs to be a better person and then says "my big mouth" part, probably thinking - he said all of those things and he'd let everyone down if he didn't help Christa.
Kenny was driving on fumes, while I'm sure he wanted Lee to find Clementine, she just isn't his family and isn't a reason for him to go on. Besides I'm sure he saw Christa and Omid as being a better choice to raise Clementine, and his last act was to make sure that could still happen.
As much as I've been at odds with Kenny on and off throughout the series, you can't say the guy didn't have heart. Lee said it best afterwards, "He did what he had to do, right to the end".
He had enough time to kill Ben and go with Lee.
People aren't robots, the characters in The Walking Dead behave much more like real people than most other videogames, or even movies to think of it. In a high stress situation people could easily do a 180 on a statement they made earlier or act way out of character.
Tension and stress can eat away at a person whilst on the surface they act 'normal' then suddenly their doing things which are way out of character because it all becomes too much for them - it happens.
True, but let me ask you this. Did Kenny die because of that "tension and stress" concept you said or did he die because it was convenient for the writers?
I mean, if Lee went to the Marsh House with Kenny, we wouldn't have had that "epic showdown" with Campman, now would we?
People trying to defend poor writing makes me lol.
Christa and Omid didn't. Kenny probably would've been separated from the Lee when he crossed the sign.
Doubtful. Kenny showed that he cared for Clementine as much as Lee. That, after all, was his apparent justifcation for locking Lee in the gate and shouting "SHE NEEDS YA LEE!"
Also, he didn't have anything to lose (unlike Christa and Omid's baby). He probably would've aided Lee in the zombie fight to the Marsh House.
Again, he was killed to convenience the writers.
If the writers were subject to bad writing though, would they kill Kenny for convenience or just make him do something ooc? I think it's really just a continuity issue. I don't know why Kenny sacrificed himself.
I'm telling you the reason: to convenience them. It's not that hard to understand. It's a classic staple of video games. It's like when you're playing a FPS and your team says "we have to go for [insert lame reason]" just when you have to fight your way through hordes of enemies in the final battle. Convenience.
Shooting Ben would draw all nearby walkers to the alley, as well as the ones already on their way. Someone needed to distract them all, and draw them away from the alley so that the other could escape, which is exactly what Kenny did.
Nope, they were on a roof, walkers can't climb ladders, even if they could, they would escape in time.
But how are they going to get through all the walkers in the alley and make it back up to the roof?
Uh, they were like 1-2 meters away from the iron fence door and the ladder.
'Everything that Kenny is' is exactly why so many of us hated him. Blinding pragmatism at the expense of a moral conscience. He needed to redeem himself, and preventing Ben from suffering his worst fear (something Kenny knows a thing about) was his act of redemption. He had nothing to live for any more, no more room or reason for pragmatism.
Kenny's journey is like the reverse of everyone else's. Most characters gain that guiltless pragmatism throughout the game, as they're hardened by the games events. Whereas Kenny manages to actually gain a conscience.