**** Survived!!!! :eek:

K..... Yes there are two optional endings, and both seem to end with Lee dead. But how can that be? You the player are Lee. And we already know there will be a second season.

So, lets explore the options.

First and most obvious, is the optional ending where Lee is just left behind. So the option of him being dead could be that he just passed out due to the loss of blood.

And in the alternative option.... Clem shoots Lee. Kinda of a final blow with absolute certainty that lee is dead. Or is it? I mean Clem did just learn how to shoot a gun and the all important feature of her closing her eyes as she fired could be a miss shot on an already passed out Lee.
Thoseeyesareclosed.jpg

So you see..... there is still hope you will be playing as Lee in Season 2.

Thoughts or conjectures? Because I'm convinced this is how it will be.

I believe I answer everyone's questions regarding how he can survive through out this thread.... but due to a troll, I refuse to continue with pointless banter after page 5. However if you have a real question that I have not answered I will attempt to answer it...

But think about this point first; there is NO proof that Lee is dead.
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  • edited November 2012
    K..... Yes there are two optional endings, and both seem to end with Lee dead. But how can that be? You the player are Lee. And we already know there will be a second season.

    So, lets explore the options. First and most obvious, is the optional ending where Lee is just left behind. So the option of him being dead could be that he just passed out due to an infection caused by the loss of blood.

    And in the alternative option.... Clem shoots Lee. Kinda of a final blow with absolute certainty that lee is dead. Or is it? I mean Clem did just learn how to shoot a gun and the all important feature of her closing her eyes as she fired could be a miss shot on an already passed out Lee.

    So you see..... there is still hope you will be playing as Lee in Season 2.

    Thoughts or conjectures? Because I'm convinced this is how it will be.

    Seems legit! Hope for the best!
  • edited November 2012
    Hope so.
  • edited November 2012
    Lee is dead. End of discussion. Get over it.
  • edited November 2012
    Did you see how sickly Lee looked towards the end of the game? It looked like his eyes were turning yellow and his skin colour looked almost dead. There's no hope for him, it'd be unrealistic to think there was. He was bitten. This is the Walking Dead, people who are bitten die.

    (Sure the chopping of the arm may have bought him some time if he would have did it right away, but it wasn't done immediately).
  • edited November 2012
    I have a feeling that the ending whoudnt of had such a big impact if Lee still lives.

    He's dead.. and thats agood thing, cause it means its depressing and a good story. Otherwise if Lee is alive in season 2 then that means we'll have a protagonist who cannot die ... canonicly. And that whoudnt be fun anymore.
  • edited November 2012
    have you ever seen someone with a loss of blood?

    That's exactly how they look. Sickly, weak, pale, and dark eyes.
  • edited November 2012
    have you ever seen someone with a loss of blood?

    That's exactly how they look. Sickly, weak, pale, and dark eyes.

    You can die from blood loss too. :p
  • edited November 2012
    Also........ It's a season finally. Not a game finally. Meaning you want people to be guessing what is next.

    What better way to do that, than to make you think you (Lee) are dead?
  • edited November 2012
    You can die from blood loss too. :p

    But most importantly...... you can survive a loss of blood as well.
  • edited November 2012
    also some people didn't cut off his arm.

    If there is a chance of Lee being in season 2, it will either be as a corpse, or as a walker.
  • edited November 2012
    Also........ It's a season finally. Not a game finally. Meaning you want people to be guessing what is next.

    What better way to do that, than to make you think you (Lee) are dead?

    In some people's playthroughs Lee has two arms, in some he has 1. It'd be unrealistic for Telltale to make five more episodes with Lee given the both scenarios. Plus, I don't think there's people immune to the zombie bite in the Walking Dead universe, so people who didn't chop off his arm would just have a dying Lee on their hands, and I don't think Telltale would do that either.

    EDIT: Lee doesn't have any blood donors around. He's chained up weak in a room. I don't think he has much energy to call out for help either because he was so weak around Clem. I think he's a goner.
  • edited November 2012
    have you ever seen someone with a loss of blood?

    That's exactly how they look. Sickly, weak, pale, and dark eyes.

    Guess what, I didn't cut his arm off and he still had all those symptoms, exactly like Duck had before turning =o


    Come on, Lee is dead. We have to accept death in the Walking Dead Universe.

    If people can't accept a good guy's death in the walking dead, they better not watch Game of Thrones, lmao.
  • edited November 2012
    No..... there's no blood donors. But your body does regenerate blood with rest.

    I'm not saying Lee is in the best condition. But I'm saying I think he survives.

    And you may not have chosen to to keep Doug over Carley in episode 1... but in the end you end up with neither of them with you (at no choice of your own). So even though you may not have cut off your arm at that time. You don't see Lee after the gun shot (or alternate ending) so you don't know how the writers will write in a loss of an arm.
  • edited November 2012
    Kannibal wrote: »
    If people can't accept a good guy's death in the walking dead ....

    I can accept the loss of a good guy........ I just cant accept the loss of the player. i.e. you playing as Lee. They still haven't killed off the main character in the comics or series....

    So why or how, could they accomplish such a deed in the game where you have an even larger connection with the main character because you 'are' the main character?
  • edited November 2012
    As much as it pains me to say this, and trust me it does, LEE IS DEAD! The quicker you accept this fact the better.
  • edited November 2012
    No..... there's no blood donors. But your body does regenerate blood with rest.

    I'm not saying Lee is in the best condition. But I'm saying I think he survives.

    And you may not have chosen to to keep Doug over Carley in episode 1... but in the end you end up with neither of them with you (at no choice of your own). So even though you may not have cut off your arm at that time. You don't see Lee after the gun shot (or alternate ending) so you don't know how the writers will write in a loss of an arm.

    Well, ok, the only outcome I can see for you is that somewhat Lee is invulnerable to the infection. It would be kind hilarious to players that chopped his arm off in season 2.



    " How did you lost your arm, Lee ? "
    Lee:
    " Yeah, I though I was infected and chomped it off."
    " I was sure it would have stopped the infection, even thou I was not infected in the end, LoL ! "
    " I heard some guy in Woodbury can fix this. "
    " ........................................... "
  • edited November 2012
    I think Lee is alive! This is why:

    First of all, when you chose to shoot Lee you still hear him breathe. And another thing! Have you all forgot about Glenn, maybe he found some people maybe a doctor and other dudes with supplies and shit. Then they tried to find Lee and the group. Maybe they found Lee and saved him. Molly is also still in the game, she could have done something, the same with Kenny! You never saw him die. He probably died, but hey! I'm a man of hope! I know the fact that the odds that Lee is alive 1 to a million but a stille have hope! And I hope you have! *dramatic music
  • edited November 2012
    As much as I want to believe that he's alive, Lee's dead. Clem is a poor shooter? She did just shoot the walker in the head while saving Molly. She shot radio man right in the head. You're telling me she can't shoot Lee point blank in the head within a few feet?
  • edited November 2012
    I know its sad but...we need to move on from Lee. It would seem like a cheat to bring him back now. A lot of people seem to be in denial over this =c
  • edited November 2012
    ZimoPoliZ wrote: »
    I think Lee is alive! This is why:

    First of all, when you chose to shoot Lee you still hear him breathe. And another thing! Have you all forgot about Glenn, maybe he found some people maybe a doctor and other dudes with supplies and shit. Then they tried to find Lee and the group. Maybe they found Lee and saved him. Molly is also still in the game, she could have done something, the same with Kenny! You never saw him die. He probably died, but hey! I'm a man of hope! I know the fact that the odds that Lee is alive 1 to a million but a stille have hope! And I hope you have! *dramatic music

    Isn't Glenn a TV canon character? I don't think he'd come back and save Lee.
  • edited November 2012
    Even if he was no hand cuff keys and he would starve to death :(
  • edited November 2012
    ZimoPoliZ wrote: »
    And another thing! Have you all forgot about Glenn, maybe he found some people maybe a doctor and other dudes with supplies and shit.

    Glenn is in the comics so would be impossible for him to come back and help
  • edited November 2012
    K..... Yes there are two optional endings, and both seem to end with Lee dead. But how can that be? You the player are Lee. And we already know there will be a second season.

    So, lets explore the options.

    First and most obvious, is the optional ending where Lee is just left behind. So the option of him being dead could be that he just passed out due to an infection caused by the loss of blood.

    And in the alternative option.... Clem shoots Lee. Kinda of a final blow with absolute certainty that lee is dead. Or is it? I mean Clem did just learn how to shoot a gun and the all important feature of her closing her eyes as she fired could be a miss shot on an already passed out Lee.
    Thoseeyesareclosed.jpg

    So you see..... there is still hope you will be playing as Lee in Season 2.

    Thoughts or conjectures? Because I'm convinced this is how it will be.

    Seriously???? :confused: Lee is dead,let him RIP. :D
  • edited November 2012
    I can accept the loss of a good guy........ I just cant accept the loss of the player. i.e. you playing as Lee. They still haven't killed off the main character in the comics or series....

    So why or how, could they accomplish such a deed in the game where you have an even larger connection with the main character because you 'are' the main character?

    His wound was never closed as far as I can tell, it wasn't cauterized or stitched. It was open with a bandage wrapped around it, there would be no way Lee would survive that much blood loss and with an arm he would not be able to survive being bitten -- and even if he managed to saw off his arm in there, he would still turn as it would be too late to prevent the blood for circulating throughout his body.
    ZimoPoliZ wrote: »
    I think Lee is alive! This is why:

    First of all, when you chose to shoot Lee you still hear him breathe. And another thing! Have you all forgot about Glenn, maybe he found some people maybe a doctor and other dudes with supplies and shit. Then they tried to find Lee and the group. Maybe they found Lee and saved him. Molly is also still in the game, she could have done something, the same with Kenny! You never saw him die. He probably died, but hey! I'm a man of hope! I know the fact that the odds that Lee is alive 1 to a million but a stille have hope! And I hope you have! *dramatic music

    As much as I loved playing as Lee, I'm sorry to say but it is near-impossible for him to be alive. The exhaling you heard was his dying breath. Glenn was a comic/TV character, and he met up with Rick and the others -- it isn't possible for him to go back to save Lee.
  • edited November 2012
    You have to come to terms with the fact that in some people's playthroughs, she shot him... she may have just learned how to use a gun, but did you see her shot in Crawford, or at the marsh hotel? And if she missed, she would have shot again and again to stop him from turning until a bullet landed in his head... sorry man, he's dead.
  • edited November 2012
    Lee is dead. End of discussion. Get over it.
    This
  • edited November 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    As much as I want to believe that he's alive, Lee's dead. Clem is a poor shooter? She did just shoot the walker in the head while saving Molly. She shot radio man right in the head. You're telling me she can't shoot Lee point blank in the head within a few feet?


    With her eyes closed? (See pic above.)

    Yup.... that's what Im telling you.
  • edited November 2012
    Those who played Episode 5 will know how this is possible for those who don't look at it this way.

    Threw out Episodes 1-5 you make different choice respond differently and it is stated at the start of each episode the choices you make determine the outcome of the game.

    During Episodes 1-4 there maybe choices and responses that may change the outcome of Episode 5. It has not yet been discovered as of the time of this post what choices, actions and responses need to be made and if there are multiple endings to this game. It is automatically assumed that there are only two endings at Episode 5.

    However there maybe more endings that have not been found or discovered and of course these could change the events in Episode 5. At the end lee is handcuffed to a radiator or would this event happen if there are multiple endings to the game and the story changes varying your choices made?????

    Also what happens if Lee is found and still alive and then given an injection that would counter the infection or reverse some of the damage. Its a long shot but still is possible since he could be found by anyone else. This does seem a long way of but it is possible for this game to have multiple endings and for Lee to survive.

    Discuss
  • edited November 2012
    It would be nice to play as Lee again, but don't you think he would have been with Clem in the epilogue scene if she hadn't have killed him (this would only apply to certain endings)?
  • edited November 2012
    Lee will be back.
  • edited November 2012
    with her eyes closed? (See pic above.)

    Yup.... that's what Im telling you.

    Ok whatever, she tried to shot point blank at his head and missed it, and even thou Lee said to her to do it and be strong about it, she gave up and left him handcuffed.
    Then a helicopter full of medical staff landed on the roof, found Lee a few minutes later and were able not only to save him, but to cure the infection.
    Oh, and the care bears turned all the zombies in the city back into humans again.
  • edited November 2012
    With her eyes closed? (See pic above.)

    Yup.... that's what Im telling you.

    She opened her eyes at the end before she shot him, seriously Lee is dead,there is no discussion to be had on the matter. Now Kenny however...........
  • edited November 2012
    That's kinda funny to see that now if you don't show directly something to most of the people, they think it never happened.

    We don't see him die cause there's no point of seeing him taking a bullet in the head. The story is about Clem' now. Lee is dead. That's all. If she had missed the shot, and Lee was alive, she would have stayed with him. That's all. There's absolutly no way Lee is alive. Maybe we'll see him in the next season, but it will be because Clem decides to bury him if you choose to kill him or to kill him if you let him turn. This is the only possible way we could see him again.

    Now, I just want to congrat TTG to have made people being so emotionnally attached to the character that they just want him to survive!
  • edited November 2012
    Crixus wrote: »
    She opened her eyes at the end before she shot him, seriously Lee is dead,there is no discussion to be had on the matter. Now Kenny however...........

    NOPE....... the eyes are closed!!! :eek:

    In addition.... I believe it could be Kenny that comes in and saves him. Noticing that he is not yet dead and having a new found conscience, may feel obligated to help. (writers could have Kenny give him a blood transfusion as well as he could be a universal blood type -- and maybe Kenny cuts the handcuffs or the keys were left since they are no longer of value to Clem)

    Also there is still no way of telling someone will die from a bite if the bite area is amputated and the person receives a blood transfusion.

    (this shot taken at the exact moment of the gun firing -- thus all the yellow)

    Nope-theeyesareclosed.jpg
  • edited November 2012
    Hopefully in season 2 clem will have flashbacks of things lee said to her and thought her,like learning how to shoot for example. This is the only way we will see Lee again.
  • edited November 2012
    I really cannot tell if you're serious, dude, sorry.
  • edited November 2012
    Lee is 100% dead
  • edited November 2012
    NOPE....... the eyes are closed!!! :eek:

    (this shot taken at the exact moment of the gun firing -- thus all the yellow)

    Nope-theeyesareclosed.jpg

    She was looking through tear filled eyes but they were open, anyways a monkey could make that shot with their eyes closed it was from point blank range! :D Let the man RIP
  • edited November 2012
    zeke10 wrote: »
    Lee is 100% dead

    ^ This
  • edited November 2012
    I think you should do your homework into the outcomes, Lee isn't going to get an injection
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