For those who chose Doug over Carley. Explain why.
Well, it seems we are a small % of people who actually decided to help Doug instead of Carley. I mainly decided not to save her because she seemed to be the only one who knew about Lee being a murderer so I considered her a threat, I know many people decided to save her because she was "hot", but come on guys, she confessed she was in love with doug.
It seems I may have missed a nice character but Doug ended up being a really cool guy.
"Wait. I know you know everything about this flashlight, I mean if you know anything about how it got broken"
I am sure a similar thread has been created before, but come on, what else are we supposed to talk about while we wait?
It seems I may have missed a nice character but Doug ended up being a really cool guy.
"Wait. I know you know everything about this flashlight, I mean if you know anything about how it got broken"
I am sure a similar thread has been created before, but come on, what else are we supposed to talk about while we wait?
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Carley
Pros
-Girl
-Has a gun
-More screentime
Cons
-Knows your past (at this point you don't know if you can trust her)
-Reporter (I hate reporters)
Doug
Pros
-Smart
-Tech skills
-Friendly
Cons
-Big-boned (read fat)
I choose Doug mainly because he's not some nosy reporter
By the way, how does Carley save you or what does she use in episode 2? I know Doug uses a laser pointer, but what about her?
Guess what. A gun.
She shoots and wounds Andy St. John. (it grazes his head)
In episode 3 when the bandits overrun the Motor Inn, Carley kills two of them immediately after Lilly opens fire with a gun that is dropped by the bandit Lilly kills. Doug does the same, though only kills one bandit. I think they had Carley kill two compared to Doug's one, because she is supposed to be more proficient with firearms. Carley will also help Lee defend the RV against bandits and walkers, while the rest of the group piles in.
DAT PUSS
That's not to say I didn't like Carley but...I couldn't save both and...Well...Fuck.
Ultimately, it comes down to an exchange we had after the fact.
Doug: Why did you choose me?
Lee: I didn't.
I mean, I find it kinda boring and redundant seeing guys always alive and always holding firearms... which lead me into saving her because it's very rare to see a woman that can handle a gun during a zombie apocalypse. You guys who saved Doug are very ungrateful, she saved your ass twice ( and Clementine if you failed to protect her in the pharmacy ). Another example is on episode 2 ( if you saved her ) when she killed Travis/David to save you ( lol.. Doug just knocked Travis/David in the head ) and when she shot Andy's ear to distract him from killing you. Another one is on episode three which was very useful and made Doug looked like trash, is when she kissed Lee and gave you guys the option to tell the group about your past leading into POSITIVE RESULTS later on. By the way, she killed MORE bandits than Doug could ever will.
P.S You guys hating her because she made a mistake on putting the batteries are very SHALLOW. I mean, everybody makes stupid mistakes sometimes, which I highly doubt that you guys hadn't.
She shoots a walker that Lee could've handled and causes more to find you, she thinks about going guns a blaze at the motel which would've certainly got you killed, and later thinks "hmm, I'm going to put my ammo in my purse, and leave my purse out of my reach, that's a great plan!", so I showed her how good of a plan it was and went for the guy who kept a good lookout, had great critical thinking with the televisions, and didn't know my secret
Aren't those the same thing?
not exactly the same thing because feminist is more about the equality of women to men while sexist is about despising a certain gender.
Yeah...Whatever you say.
If you were really Lee and I'm Carley, I wouldn't save you and your group in the first place with that attitude.... just sayin'
Besides, I played thru with Doug and he ends up costing me my friendship with Kenny~ so what the hell..
Nah, a sexist is just one step away from racist.
A feminist, as I understand it, merely works to advance the cause of gender equality.
Oh, and I let Doug die because his VA annoys me.
She rushes out of the drugstore's safety to save me, Clem, etc. (complete strangers).
She stands up to Larry and Lilly who don't want to take in strangers.
She opposes Larry killing Duck.
She saved Clem from the bathroom walker.
She keeps your secret. In a way, this saves your life again because it prevents your past from being used as an excuse to kick you into the streets full of walkers.
She volunteers to go with me to rescue Glenn.
Did Carley being a pretty woman had something to do with my choice at a subconscious level? Probably, I don't know. My first instinct was to save whoever saved me. This was the same reason I tried to save Shawn over Duck at Hershel's farm because him giving me a ride saved Clem and my life.
Like others pointed out, she had a lot more screen time, and all that screen time was mostly about her helping me. It's hard to dismiss that.
Personally, I was not impressed with Doug at all. Carley haters like to criticize her for the battery thing while ignoring the good things she did. Seriously, who here hasn't done something that's stupid and minor? They also ignore that Doug doesn't act very smart either. I mean he suggests going outside and taking a look hoping a flimsy store gate will be enough to hold back walkers. The only reason the pack of walkers didn't see you in plain sight was because TTG writers willed it so and made chilling out side the drugstore necessary to forward the story. Logically, it didn't make sense and was a pretty stupid and dangerous move. I also don't recall Doug standing up for the newcomers during Larry's tirade.
Then obviously the whole woman and children first that I mostly tried to keep up (like I helped Duck instead of Shawn, for example). She was also a good shot and seems like the sort of person I would get along with in real life, and I like that she expresses her opinion more unlike Doug. I wanted a romance thing between her and Lee as well, if not, for them to be good friends. Doug was a pretty good character and had some good dialogue in Episode 1 but the Doug or Carley choice was pretty easy to make. Also in my second playthrough I didn't like his role as much and I thought the laser pointer was extremely lame, although I do quite like the alarm system.
Edit: I kind of found the battery thing endearing in a way, and I like how Lee referred to it at the end of Episode 2. It didn't really seem that significant anyway, just to show that Carley isn't as good as technology as Doug is.
It gets another callback in Episode 3 if you ask her about the busted flashlight. She suggests the batteries could be in backwards only for Lee to point out it uses only one. To which she blurts out everything should.
That's interesting about her saving Clementine if you don't get up in time. I knew there were a lot of moments where if Lee didn't do anything other characters tend to fill the gap but I didn't know about that one.
Oh yeah I forgot about the flashlight thing with Carley, I never speak to characters, apart from Clementine, about the chalk or flashlight anymore in other playthroughs. I like how Telltale add things like that in.
And when I did it I thought I was screwed as the screen went red but then you hear a gunshot and it cuts to Carley shooting the walker like she does to get it off Lee if you manage to get to Clementine. I quite liked it that way, except at the top of the screen it said "Clementine will remember you didn't save her", made me feel pretty bad lol.
Pretty much my response as well. (and Zac's response too is pretty much my response as well) Her personality was really good. You could trust her. + She saves you and takes risks when helping others. What else is that she's concerned about you and isn't afraid to stand up for those who are being attacked. I picked her on my first and second save files. In real life, i would be glad to have a friend like that.
I find Doug alright, he seems useful as well but his tech skills isn't that useful in a world w/o power anymore. He's also smart like carley.
Carley never said she was "in love" with Doug, she said she likes him and I think it's mainly because he saved her life.
Im also sure that majority chose to save her(including me) because she has a gun, not because she's hot. She also saved Lee in the pharmacy.
Yeah, Doug is a really cool guy and it would've been nice to save both of them, but Carley is a good shot and knows how to properly use a gun.
I agree with Anna san anyway. Carley WAS in love with Lee. Even though she didn't say, I'm sure she felt connected with him which is why she kissed him during their conversation. What else is they got each other's backs. No question they did like/love each other.
(They should've added a scene though with them saying something like:
"Carley, I need to tell you something" then Lee says "I love you or something like that, I got your back. Don't forget that) or hold hands for a long time to increase that impact and feeling of some players and I guess it would make their relationship even closer/etc but i'm pretty sure people already know that they are keeping an eye for each other)
Doug was funny and he was easier to trust
Just think about Lilly thought Carley was a traitor whilst Doug was the hero who sacrificed himself to save Ben
To be fair in the first episode I kept on forgetting who was Lilly and who was Carley they were quite similar
Doug though is pretty cool. Carley sacrificed herself defending Ben (not shield though, but standing up for people who need help) . (I think)
She proved herself useful while Doug didn't - in my opinion.
Episode 1 they were quite similar in how they both acted and you didn't talk to them enough to really distinguish
I think Lilly is a lot different in Episode 1, she changed over time. But I think you talk to Carley enough, and especially with the whole motel thing with Glenn.
My first instinct was to save her, but in the split few seconds I had to think about it - it came down to our last confrontation before the incident.
She told me about knowing my past - threatened me (by saying if my past became something of a problem to the rest of the group, she wouldn't side with me - and by that logic would likely end with myself dead or Clem and myself being outcast).
I said I didn't trust her, hoping she'd take the initiative and try to give me a convincing reason to trust her (which she didn't, she just kind of blew it off).
So, I went with the person who knew less about me - this way if I had a future "enemy" to convince I was okay even though I had a bad past, at least he wasn't a crack shot and had a reason to back me up (he owed me more than I owed him).
I felt he was the safest bet in the possibility that my past be discovered, was a lesser threat to my life (and therefore Clem's life), and owed me a lot (instead of being for the most part even like with Carley).
I think that was more of the developers fault. I think they wanted it to seem that the zombies turned and then he shouted "Oh Crap" But put the scenes in the wrong order. So i don't blame Doug for that.
This is why I didn't save Carley. That dumb ass Kenny is around walkers for several days, yet he yells at the first person he sees moving when we stop at the drugstore. Of course it is a walker, and he nearly gets us killed, and Carley comes to the rescue. But not 5 minutes later, she is taking orders from Kenny, and saying "you got it, boss". I thought right then that she was weak. Sure, she could shoot, and saved Lee's butt multiple times. But she seemed to have nothing to offer other than that. She seemed to have no other resources, as evidenced by the way she couldn't fight off one stupid walker on her ankle. As a female I hate weak females. I thought Carley was weak, so I left her.