Here's an alternative I think that would've been interesting to do in Shel's story; if you choose to go and kill Stephanie, Shel would actually have an option to grab and take her to the RV with her while aiming the gun at Roman the whole way back.
"Back the fuck off! All of you!"
"Shel, what the hell do you think you're doing?!"
"I'm taking Steph and Becca with me, Roman. The three of us are leaving this place for good! You won't make me kill my friend!"
Once they get inside, Roman tries to bust his way in until Shel starts the engine and drives them all away from the gas station.
(I honestly agreed with Stephanie's decision on leaving that place, especially since I chose to let Roberto go and things took a turn for the worse afterwards. But I do think she shouldn't have tried to do it alone; that's (almost) always a stupid thing to do.)
I think when Katjaa mentioned something about doing whatever you can to survive, right after we witnessed the same justification being given by the family of cannibals, to Clementine, I felt like saying something like:
"If you think about how many people are no longer living this far into the apocalypse, we have to assume that an abandoned car doesn't belong to anyone if they're not around to protect it."
And when the Vernon wanted to take Clementine to his sewer hideout, I would've had to tell him that I'd rather take the risk of failure going somewhere where life is worth living, than handing her over to grow up in a shelter underground, lying below a massive horde of roaming zombies, surrounded by people who aren't healthy or strong enough to make it any safer than where we're going.
And as much as I didn't want him to die for something as pointless as staying alongside Ben, I really wouldn't have let Kenny keep talking like he was better than anyone being the person who was so ruthless in the way that he murdered Larry. I wouldn't have thrown him out of the group, but he had gotten to the point where he thought we could murder survivors because it would be more convenient for us if they were about to die and turn into a zombie. Even if it was practical, he showed a lack of hesitation that made him the most dangerous, unpredictable person out of everyone.
*When Shel sees the dead puppy
1.NOOOOO YOU MONSTER
2. *Shoots herself
3. *beat up the evil walker
4. *Take gun and eliminate everyone in the group
5. *cry like a baby
The argument on the road
Lilly: So Lee , who stoled our supplies ?
1) Leonard Steakcharmer
2) T-H-E-M
3) Homestar
4) A three-headed monkey
5) The Hidden People
6) Raptors
Here's an alternative I think that would've been interesting to do in Shel's story; if you choose to go and kill Stephanie, Shel would actually have an option to grab and take her to the RV with her while aiming the gun at Roman the whole way back.
"Back the fuck off! All of you!"
"Shel, what the hell do you think you're doing?!"
"I'm taking Steph and Becca with me, Roman. The three of us are leaving this place for good! You won't make me kill my friend!"
Once they get inside, Roman tries to bust his way in until Shel starts the engine and drives them all away from the gas station.
(I honestly agreed with Stephanie's decision on leaving that place, especially since I chose to let Roberto go and things took a turn for the worse afterwards. But I do think she shouldn't have tried to do it alone; that's (almost) always a stupid thing to do.)
The argument on the road
Lilly: So Lee , who stoled our supplies ?
1) Leonard Steakcharmer
2) T-H-E-M
3) Homestar
4) A three-headed monkey
5) The Hidden People
6) Raptors
2. And then T.H.E.M appear in the time machine and say 'It wasn't us amigos Oh and Did somebody say Birthday?' And Clem gets the best mariachi song Birthday and everyone is so happy that Lilly forgets about the traitor and gest back in the RV and no one dies
2. And then T.H.E.M appear in the time machine and say 'It wasn't us amigos Oh and Did somebody say Birthday?' And Clem gets the best mariachi song Birthday and everyone is so happy that Lilly forgets about the traitor and gest back in the RV and no one dies
And here are the dialogues for the other choices .
1) Lee: It was Leonard Steakcharmer !
Kenny: Hey you leave my dad out of this Lee .
Lee: Wait you're dad is Leonard Steakcharmer ?
Kenny: Yeah ! And my grandma was a saint .
Lee: Well your grandma is very ugly Kenny .
Kenny: Not ugly as your dead mom !
Lee: Your momma has such a ugly moustache , she can't drive a boat !
Kenny: Your momma is so urban , she managed to pick 30 locks .
Lilly: Enough ! Let's get back on the topic ! Besides you're mommas are very ugly .
3) Lee: It was Homestar !
Lilly just stares at Lee and twitches violently .
Lee: Ok , that's a no .
4) Lee : It was a three headed monkey !
Everybody is silent .
Kenny: My uncle was a three headed monkey with a moustache .
Than Lee , Carley , Lilly and Ben give Kenny the " WTF " faces .
5) Lee: It was the Hidden People .
Lilly: Hidden .... People .
Lee: Yes .
Lilly: WHAT THE FUCK IS A HIDDEN PEOPLE !
Lee: Well they are ..... red tiny gnomes .
Lilly , Carley and Ben glare at Lee for five minutes .
Lee: Well there goes my guess .
6) Lee: It was the raptors .
Lilly: Raptors ?
Lee: Yeah , they are intelligent , they know how to open doors , so i'm sure they also can steal supplies .
Lilly: ...... EVERYBODY GET IN THE FUCKING RV BEFORE I COMMIT SUICIDE BECAUSE OF THIS DUMB SHIT !
2. And then T.H.E.M appear in the time machine and say 'It wasn't us amigos Oh and Did somebody say Birthday?' And Clem gets the best mariachi song Birthday and everyone is so happy that Lilly forgets about the traitor and gest back in the RV and no one dies
That or when the mariachis appear Lilly shoots them and she asks Lee " They did it ? " " Yup they did it " " Good now everybody get in the Rv before i get a fucking headache from their songs . "
Lee and Kenny in the alley with Ben Episode 5:
Lee: Hell No man I'm not leaving
Kenny: What did I just say
Dialogue option if you always had Kenny's back:
Lee: Kenny You have always had my back and I've had yours, lets do this together.
I would have loved to say something like that in his final moments.
I know there wasn't a dialogue option during this part but whatever.
Duck: "You can be the Greatest Detective, and I'll be Dick Grayson; your Ward!"
Lee: "If you're gonna be my ward, I don't really see us as Batman and Robin, we sort of have a more Theon Greyjoy and Eddard Stark type of relationship."
I hate how when Lee and Clem are moving the table away from the pharmacy door and she asks Lee about his family, you can't answer her, only dodge her question. What if I want to talk to her about his family?
Shawn Green " I saw a guy in Atalanta kill a kid, a boy, he didnt even hesitate, he just put the barrel in between the kids eyes and pulled the trigger "
After the farm incident, when Lee sided with Lilly and tried to revive Larry:
Kenny: There's gonna be fallout.
Lee:
-...
-Why Kenny??? Larry ain't dead yet, asshole!
-You could have waited a little while. We're not exactly sure if Larry's dead. You can always put the salt-lick above his head and drop it if he turns.
-Why do you always think that my choices involving you and Lilly are about choosing sides??? Yeah, I tried to save Larry because I gave Lilly the benefit of the doubt, just like what I did with Duck back at the drugstore. I tried to help Lilly, but it doesn't mean I don't like you man. (then Kenny apologizes and brofists Lee).
I am not the only person that thought that, I knew what he meant, I just like that game is all.
It's off topic but, I have never actually played Fallout 3, I've been wanting to but since the game is pretty dated I can't find a copy anywhere for the ps3, I know that you can buy copies online but it's too difficult for me to do. They need to put that game on the PSN Store stat!
I did like New Vegas more, but Fallout 3 is not old, 5 years is not that old, hell I still have golden eye for the N 64, now that is old, and I have to say it, but really, War, war never changes.
I know New Vegas is said to be better but I wanted to play Fallout 3 because my favorite Let's Player got me into the series, and he was doing Fallout 3. (JoshJepson if you are wondering) I'm interested in the storyline for Fallout 3, even though it's thin I want to see how it ends myself
I did like New Vegas more, but Fallout 3 is not old, 5 years is not that old, hell I still have golden eye for the N 64, now that is old, and I have to say it, but really, War, war never changes.
I never said it was old, just that I liked it better. Also, it has the NCR. Long live the Republic!
I replayed the game again trying to be a better Lee (as good as I can be), and I got to the end of Episode 5, at the confrontation with the Stranger. The thing is, it doesn't matter how you play the game, he always says you're dangerous. But the worst part is the dialogue options you have when he remembers you about the things you've done wrong. For instance, if you saved Carley, he will say like: "You saved a pretty gun with a gun over a guy who was about to die"
And the options are:
"I couldn't save him."
"You weren't there."
"I fucked up."
WTF?! I wish there was an option like "That's what you said, SHE HAD A GUN. We're in a f*cking zombie apocalypse and you expect me to save a fat, tech expert dude over a woman that knows how to shoot?"
And when he says we "chose to take her to a dairy full of cannibals"
I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO GO THERE. I VOTED "NO" WHEN ASKED. AND THE OPTIONS ARE THESE:
"I was trying to find a safe place for her."
"It's more complicated than that."
"I would do it differently."
WHAT.
THE.
HELL?!
So yeah, different dialogue options in this scene would be great, thanks.
No. Lee would be dead as soon as he battled her babysitter, or in Episode 2 when they had to get out of the meatlocker. You saw; there was no other way out. They would die in there and possibly be eaten by the cannibals.
Your accusation is invalid. I'd rather him survive 5 episodes rather than 2 episodes.
I replayed the game again trying to be a better Lee (as good as I can be), and I got to the end of Episode 5, at the confrontation with the Stranger. The thing is, it doesn't matter how you play the game, he always says you're dangerous. But the worst part is the dialogue options you have when he remembers you about the things you've done wrong. For instance, if you saved Carley, he will say like: "You saved a pretty gun with a gun over a guy who was about to die"
And the options are:
"I couldn't save him."
"You weren't there."
"I fucked up."
WTF?! I wish there was an option like "That's what you said, SHE HAD A GUN. We're in a f*cking zombie apocalypse and you expect me to save a fat, tech expert dude over a woman that knows how to shoot?"
And when he says we "chose to take her to a dairy full of cannibals"
I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO GO THERE. I VOTED "NO" WHEN ASKED. AND THE OPTIONS ARE THESE:
"I was trying to find a safe place for her."
"It's more complicated than that."
"I would do it differently."
WHAT.
THE.
HELL?!
So yeah, different dialogue options in this scene would be great, thanks.
Yeah, because I couldn't say comebacks to his stupid accusations, I went out of my way to be nice to everyone else, but be a douchebag to the stranger. I killed him, and let him turn as a zombie, as punishment for making Lee die. Sweet, sweet revenge.
It's off topic but, I have never actually played Fallout 3, I've been wanting to but since the game is pretty dated I can't find a copy anywhere for the ps3, I know that you can buy copies online but it's too difficult for me to do. They need to put that game on the PSN Store stat!
Well, I have a copy of the game somewhere in my garage...
Lilly: Not giving my dad rations, that was cold
Lee: Not nearly as cold as that asshole leaving me for dead after I risked my life to get him his stupid pills. Don't you tell me about being cold
Stranger: You can't protect her
Lee: Who is the one whose son got lost in the woods? Don't be a fucking hypocrite
I don't know about you, but that cop in the intro that said ".. Or maybe you married the wrong woman" I didn't even hesitate to reply with "F*ck you". Too bad every option just ended with the growl.
Comments
1) what?
2) don't tell anyone
3) throw Ben off the train
P.S I pick #3
"Back the fuck off! All of you!"
"Shel, what the hell do you think you're doing?!"
"I'm taking Steph and Becca with me, Roman. The three of us are leaving this place for good! You won't make me kill my friend!"
Once they get inside, Roman tries to bust his way in until Shel starts the engine and drives them all away from the gas station.
(I honestly agreed with Stephanie's decision on leaving that place, especially since I chose to let Roberto go and things took a turn for the worse afterwards. But I do think she shouldn't have tried to do it alone; that's (almost) always a stupid thing to do.)
"If you think about how many people are no longer living this far into the apocalypse, we have to assume that an abandoned car doesn't belong to anyone if they're not around to protect it."
And when the Vernon wanted to take Clementine to his sewer hideout, I would've had to tell him that I'd rather take the risk of failure going somewhere where life is worth living, than handing her over to grow up in a shelter underground, lying below a massive horde of roaming zombies, surrounded by people who aren't healthy or strong enough to make it any safer than where we're going.
And as much as I didn't want him to die for something as pointless as staying alongside Ben, I really wouldn't have let Kenny keep talking like he was better than anyone being the person who was so ruthless in the way that he murdered Larry. I wouldn't have thrown him out of the group, but he had gotten to the point where he thought we could murder survivors because it would be more convenient for us if they were about to die and turn into a zombie. Even if it was practical, he showed a lack of hesitation that made him the most dangerous, unpredictable person out of everyone.
1.NOOOOO YOU MONSTER
2. *Shoots herself
3. *beat up the evil walker
4. *Take gun and eliminate everyone in the group
5. *cry like a baby
Lilly: So Lee , who stoled our supplies ?
1) Leonard Steakcharmer
2) T-H-E-M
3) Homestar
4) A three-headed monkey
5) The Hidden People
6) Raptors
I would've loved that option.
1) Lee: It was Leonard Steakcharmer !
Kenny: Hey you leave my dad out of this Lee .
Lee: Wait you're dad is Leonard Steakcharmer ?
Kenny: Yeah ! And my grandma was a saint .
Lee: Well your grandma is very ugly Kenny .
Kenny: Not ugly as your dead mom !
Lee: Your momma has such a ugly moustache , she can't drive a boat !
Kenny: Your momma is so urban , she managed to pick 30 locks .
Lilly: Enough ! Let's get back on the topic ! Besides you're mommas are very ugly .
3) Lee: It was Homestar !
Lilly just stares at Lee and twitches violently .
Lee: Ok , that's a no .
4) Lee : It was a three headed monkey !
Everybody is silent .
Kenny: My uncle was a three headed monkey with a moustache .
Than Lee , Carley , Lilly and Ben give Kenny the " WTF " faces .
5) Lee: It was the Hidden People .
Lilly: Hidden .... People .
Lee: Yes .
Lilly: WHAT THE FUCK IS A HIDDEN PEOPLE !
Lee: Well they are ..... red tiny gnomes .
Lilly , Carley and Ben glare at Lee for five minutes .
Lee: Well there goes my guess .
6) Lee: It was the raptors .
Lilly: Raptors ?
Lee: Yeah , they are intelligent , they know how to open doors , so i'm sure they also can steal supplies .
Lilly: ...... EVERYBODY GET IN THE FUCKING RV BEFORE I COMMIT SUICIDE BECAUSE OF THIS DUMB SHIT !
That or when the mariachis appear Lilly shoots them and she asks Lee " They did it ? " " Yup they did it " " Good now everybody get in the Rv before i get a fucking headache from their songs . "
" we didnt even try to save him, that blood is on OUR hands ya know? "
really wanted to say " you mean YOUR hands? "
Lee: Hell No man I'm not leaving
Kenny: What did I just say
Dialogue option if you always had Kenny's back:
Lee: Kenny You have always had my back and I've had yours, lets do this together.
I would have loved to say something like that in his final moments.
Duck: "You can be the Greatest Detective, and I'll be Dick Grayson; your Ward!"
Lee: "If you're gonna be my ward, I don't really see us as Batman and Robin, we sort of have a more Theon Greyjoy and Eddard Stark type of relationship."
"Why not. It's my last day on Earth. What's it gonna do, kill me?"
Lee Everette " Trolol "
Kenny: There's gonna be fallout.
Lee:
-...
-Why Kenny??? Larry ain't dead yet, asshole!
-You could have waited a little while. We're not exactly sure if Larry's dead. You can always put the salt-lick above his head and drop it if he turns.
-Why do you always think that my choices involving you and Lilly are about choosing sides??? Yeah, I tried to save Larry because I gave Lilly the benefit of the doubt, just like what I did with Duck back at the drugstore. I tried to help Lilly, but it doesn't mean I don't like you man. (then Kenny apologizes and brofists Lee).
Lee:"oh,and Carley?"
Carley:"yeah?"
Lee:"i wanted to say i liked you for a long time"
a option to save her from the shot,
an option to tell Larry "I dont hate you,you're the one who tried to beat the shit out of me infront of a little girl"
Larry:"you like my daugther?"
Lee:"no! i like someone eles!"
episode 5.
Stranger:"you stole from me"
Lee:"you kept the car door open and the keys. so STFU"
Lee: FALLOUT 3? I LOVE THAT GAME.
It's off topic but, I have never actually played Fallout 3, I've been wanting to but since the game is pretty dated I can't find a copy anywhere for the ps3, I know that you can buy copies online but it's too difficult for me to do. They need to put that game on the PSN Store stat!
I never said it was old, just that I liked it better. Also, it has the NCR. Long live the Republic!
Episode 5
Lee:and Clem?
Clem:yeah?
Lee:happy birthday.
Hell ya, this is going of topic again but the NCR are my favorite faction in the Fallout series, they are just so cool, and nothing beats the Rangers.
Lee: NAME. ONE. TIME.
And the options are:
"I couldn't save him."
"You weren't there."
"I fucked up."
WTF?! I wish there was an option like "That's what you said, SHE HAD A GUN. We're in a f*cking zombie apocalypse and you expect me to save a fat, tech expert dude over a woman that knows how to shoot?"
And when he says we "chose to take her to a dairy full of cannibals"
I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO GO THERE. I VOTED "NO" WHEN ASKED. AND THE OPTIONS ARE THESE:
"I was trying to find a safe place for her."
"It's more complicated than that."
"I would do it differently."
WHAT.
THE.
HELL?!
So yeah, different dialogue options in this scene would be great, thanks.
No. Lee would be dead as soon as he battled her babysitter, or in Episode 2 when they had to get out of the meatlocker. You saw; there was no other way out. They would die in there and possibly be eaten by the cannibals.
Your accusation is invalid. I'd rather him survive 5 episodes rather than 2 episodes.
Yeah, because I couldn't say comebacks to his stupid accusations, I went out of my way to be nice to everyone else, but be a douchebag to the stranger. I killed him, and let him turn as a zombie, as punishment for making Lee die. Sweet, sweet revenge.
Well, I have a copy of the game somewhere in my garage...
Stranger SO MY FAMILY STARVED IN THE COLD!
Lee: Yeah, I know. I don't see the problem.
Scumbag Lee FTW
Lee: Not nearly as cold as that asshole leaving me for dead after I risked my life to get him his stupid pills. Don't you tell me about being cold
Stranger: You can't protect her
Lee: Who is the one whose son got lost in the woods? Don't be a fucking hypocrite
Clem: They're breaking in!
Kenny: Come on, let's go!
Lee: HELL NO Man! We gotta save Maybelle!
Kenny: Who?
Lee: The cow!
And then they ride the cow into the sunset.
Heh, I can still remember that unused audioline from Episode 2 which was very similar to this.
It went around like this:
Clem: Wait, what about Maybelle?
Lee: Who?
Clem: The cow!
Lilly: Come on, honey, we gotta move!
a) Carley
b) Ben
c) Kenny
d) I did it