1. In all likelihood, Lee was going to die anyway, from either the blood loss or the bite itself. The humane thing to do seemed to be putting Lee out of his misery.
2. What if Lee turned and came back as a walker? Clementine would have been in serious danger, and she would have had to shoot Lee anyway to save herself.
3. I didn't want to see Lee die and reanimate. At this point in the story, you had already seen people, even friends, die and come back as walkers, and there was no way I could have let that happen to Lee. Lee deserved to be remembered as the person who gave his life to save Clementine, not just another victim of the walkers. Maybe I made a bad choice, but the lines between right and wrong tend to blur when you're all teary-eyed.
I had Clem shoot him. Mostly, I just couldn't stand the thought of Lee as a walker. He was in a lot fo pain, and the humane thing to do was send him on his way, and follow the rest of the group. Secondly, I thought that it was something Clem needed to do. If she left Lee, and ahd to do something like this in the future to soemone she cared about almost as much, would she be able to do it if she didn't pull the trigger on Lee?
I wanted to kill him... But... I never did. I guess it's a combination of denial and sorts. I mean, what if be could survive? What if me shooting him lost his chances of surviving with Clem? I felt I just couldn't make Clem do that.
She already lost both his parents, watched them dead. I didn't want her to have to shoot Lee after what she just witnessed, and what she did to keep him alive.
I felt it would be an insult to kill lee. I let him die as a hero, and not just be mercied. I felt it just be wrong, and that Clem shouldn't see.
Overall, I just never could make Clem pull the trigger... If he died and Clem had the gun aimed at Lee and all you had to do was press the button? Maybe... But for it on autopilot? I wouldn't let Clem do that. Besides I will keep her innocence as much as possible!
I wanted to kill him... But... I never did. I guess it's a combination of denial and sorts. I mean, what if be could survive? What if me shooting him lost his chances of surviving with Clem? I felt I just couldn't make Clem do that.
She already lost both his parents, watched them dead. I didn't want her to have to shoot Lee after what she just witnessed, and what she did to keep him alive.
I felt it would be an insult to kill lee. I let him die as a hero, and not just be mercied. I felt it just be wrong, and that Clem shouldn't see.
Overall, I just never could make Clem pull the trigger... If he died and Clem had the gun aimed at Lee and all you had to do was press the button? Maybe... But for it on autopilot? I wouldn't let Clem do that. Besides I will keep her innocence as much as possible!
Same here,i could not ask Clem to pull the trigger after just seeing her parents and how she was looking forward to get to Savanah,she wasnt stupid she knew what to do if Lee suddenly turned,also Lee was locked up so she was in no danger.
I Still had/have the possibility in my mind that cutting Lee's arm off stopped the infection spreading and the blood loss/shock was causing him to pass out also at the end too,if you think in terms of WD universe now Lee is currently a walker chained up going nuts,alive?;),still passed out,or...anyway
I told Clementine to shoot me; just like with the girl at the motor inn and Duck, it was the merciful thing to do, and I didn't want Lee to become a zombie.
Clementine also had to learn that sometimes you have to be able do difficult things; you don't last long in the world of TWD if you can't.
Killed him... i don't know if i was even thinking of Clem at the time i made the decision, i just thought about seeing Lee's body walking around killing people every day until someone finally puts him down, and i didn't want that.
I made her kill Lee (not gonna lie, was a tough call) so she would never come back to that godforsaken place. To me it was clear he's dead, and I didn't want her to have some "what if's" floating around in her head. It was cruel to make her pull the trigger, especially after seeing her parents, on the other hand, she didn't want to leave Lee like that, maybe one day she'd blame her for not killing him, so I did what I did. Partially I regret it.
I still don't understand why in the hell would you leave him, both Clem and Lee knew that was the right thing to do. Clem has to face it that she can't be a little innocent girl anymore and Lee deserved a good death, so might as well make her shoot him.
I also don't want Clem to see zombie Lee roaming around or haunting her for not pulling the trigger when she could and end his misery.
I still don't understand why in the hell would you leave him
The reason would be, not wanting her to get used to killing. Because once people get too used to killing, they don't mind it, once they don't mid it, they tend to become psychos on killing sprees. We saw some people like that in the Walking Dead universe already.
I told her to leave him. Lee was chained up and wasn't a threat.
She didn't need to waste the bullet, and she didn't need to risk the noise.
I can understand the sentiment of people saying it would be better for Clementine's resolve in the long run, but I've already seen her shoot a man, she didn't need to prove anything to me. The fact that it was minutes after the trauma of realizing that she had lost everyone didn't help.
I chose to leave Lee, because I couldn't let Clem risk the noise and being detected by a horde of walkers and besides Lee lost a lot of blood I still have some hope that someone will come to Lees aid. (Long-shot but still something to hold on to)
I left him, primarily because I wanted to see zombie Lee.
I had other reasons, but that was first on the list. I was disappointed.
Here's hoping my Lee kills some poor shmuck in Season 2.
That actually would be pretty awesome to have a decision carry over the game like that! Maybe Lee could take out season 2's version of Carley to really piss people off and make people go "Ah WTF I should've kill him when I had the chance!!!!"
Oh, I also have a question that I've always been curious about. A lot of people say wanting to saving a bullet and prevent noise are mains reasons for not shooting Lee. Those are fair reasons.
So what if Clem had a knife, screwdriver, etc. instead? TTG could have an option like "Stab me through the eye." Would that change your decision?
Oh, I also have a question that I've always been curious about. A lot of people say wanting to saving a bullet and prevent noise are mains reasons for not shooting Lee. Those are fair reasons.
So what if Clem had a knife, screwdriver, etc. instead? TTG could have an option like "Stab me through the eye." Would that change your decision?
Well, not mine...
Though noise was one of the practical reasons I didn't have her do it. Given she couldn't even really look at Lee when she shoots him, I'm inclined to think she probably couldn't do the job (quickly, anyway) with any sort of muscle-powered melee weapon... we kinda saw as much when she has to try to copy Al Capone with the baseball bat against the guard walker in the store.
No, better she live and leave my undead self to kill my non-undead self next season... unless of course my undead Lee kills her instead, that'd be embarrassing and awkward.
Though noise was one of the practical reasons I didn't have her do it. Given she couldn't even really look at Lee when she shoots him, I'm inclined to think she probably couldn't do the job (quickly, anyway) with any sort of muscle-powered melee weapon... we kinda saw as much when she has to try to copy Al Capone with the baseball bat against the guard walker in the store.
Yeah... Even on the slim chance that it did end up being a clean-cut kill, I don't think I'd want Lee's last words to Clementine to be, "Keep stabbing until I stop twitching."
Wanting to cement her closure is one thing, but that'd just be cruel.
Oh, I also have a question that I've always been curious about. A lot of people say wanting to saving a bullet and prevent noise are mains reasons for not shooting Lee. Those are fair reasons.
So what if Clem had a knife, screwdriver, etc. instead? TTG could have an option like "Stab me through the eye." Would that change your decision?
Dude wtf!? First of all Owwwwwwwwwwwww. Second just damn. If she missed and he survived, that would just be fucking painful man! No, that would be more of a no!
That actually would be pretty awesome to have a decision carry over the game like that! Maybe Lee could take out season 2's version of Carley to really piss people off and make people go "Ah WTF I should've kill him when I had the chance!!!!"
If he kills the season 2 Carley well.... I'd consider that some loving xD
Dude wtf!? First of all Owwwwwwwwwwwww. Second just damn. If she missed and he survived, that would just be fucking painful man! No, that would be more of a no!
Nah, Lee's the boss. We'll get another option to keep guiding Clem: "Try the other eye."
You don't let your dead turn. One of my zombie apocalypse principles.
He wasn't DEAD though! He was still alive when he was left I'm all for the you don't leave the living behind, but not to kill if he couldn't be taken. I just couldn't...
He wasn't DEAD though! He was still alive when he was left I'm all for the you don't leave the living behind, but not to kill if he couldn't be taken. I just couldn't...
He was effectively dead. Anyway for me i find the thought of someone i cared about as a walker is pretty horrible, like nature playing a grotesque puppet show with their corpses. Could never leave them like that (or to that). I ended Lee's suffering in the most painless way and made sure he could never become one of those things.
Now here's a depressing thought, if Lee wasn't dead when he was left (whilst being pretty obviously terminal) then, because of your decision Lee died alone...
He died alone anyway :P. However, I just didn't want to give up hope It just seems to keep telling me not to just assume people are dead or that things are hopeless, so I wanted to give Lee a chance, as much as it did...
I agree I couldn't just let someone I loved or cared about just die and turn, nor would I just leave them behind, even their dead body really... I wouldn't be able to just leave them to get torn apart and eaten when I could have buried them or burned them or SOMETHING.
I just didn't want Clem to do that. Maybe if she was older, and she didn't have to see her parents as walkers just then, and have a guilty conscience as to why Lee got bitten, or had lost her entire group just prior. How about being a hostage? How about just almost getting killed and needing Lee's help, making her feel useless? she already thought she had no chance of surviving at one point. I just didn't want to cause her any more strain than she had to. Just... really...
He died alone anyway :P. However, I just didn't want to give up hope It just seems to keep telling me not to just assume people are dead or that things are hopeless, so I wanted to give Lee a chance, as much as it did...
I agree I couldn't just let someone I loved or cared about just die and turn, nor would I just leave them behind, even their dead body really... I wouldn't be able to just leave them to get torn apart and eaten when I could have buried them or burned them or SOMETHING.
I just didn't want Clem to do that. Maybe if she was older, and she didn't have to see her parents as walkers just then, and have a guilty conscience as to why Lee got bitten, or had lost her entire group just prior. How about being a hostage? How about just almost getting killed and needing Lee's help, making her feel useless? she already thought she had no chance of surviving at one point. I just didn't want to cause her any more strain than she had to. Just... really...
My Lee died with Clem... her being the last thing he saw. though i admit i was perhaps selfishly thinking about what i wanted for Lee rather than how it would affect Clementine having to shoot Lee. (not that having to leave him is an awful lot better)
That said i do admire your ability to play through the whole of that game and still take the optimistic approach by the end.
My Lee died with Clem... her being the last thing he saw. though i admit i was perhaps selfishly thinking about what i wanted for Lee rather than how it would affect Clementine having to shoot Lee. (not that having to leave him is an awful lot better)
That said i do admire your ability to play through the whole of that game and still take the optimistic approach by the end.
Hahaha, I'll take that as a compliment ^_^ I'm only optimistic to others. Besides, how would you feel if you were alive and someone ended your life? I mean... yeah, if he dies, then maybe he should be "mercied", but until I saw him die, could I really pull the trigger on him and end it? Yeah, maybe what Telltale's people said was true, and that the opinion/theory Lee is dead is true, well oh well. I still wouldn't shoot him until he died unless he was in severe pain. Having to end it like that would just be too painful for both of them. And in all fairness the last thing Lee saw was Clem, and he got to see her walk out safely.
I'd like to say I'd be able to shoot my loved ones and friends in that situation; that I'd have the balls to do what was needed, but I don't know. Just the fact of being the one to end it; the one to cease the light from their eyes; I just don't know. If there is nothing after death, then what? I just obliterated them from existence, and their loss would forever be on my conscience. That, and I wouldn't want to get into a habit of killing people; as if it is normal.
After everything seen in the walking dead, I just wouldn't want to give hope on living. Maybe he did get to it fast enough, and it was just a fluke? What if he's not dreaming!? He needs his top to see if he's awake :P. But seriously, I can't just shoot a living man because everyone thinks he will die and turn, maybe even myself. People didn't give Irene the gun, so why Lee? Why shoot Lee? Maybe he is okay? He wasn't "seen" dead, so I just won't let it happen. If he had turned, and it wasn't Clem to shoot him, I'd pull the trigger. Otherwise, I just think it'd be an insult to kill him.
Lee, murderer of State Senator, survivor of a zombie apocalypse, protector of a little girl, killing machine, and armless badass. Weakness? Walkie talkies and Clementine's mercy.
I had her spare him for 2 main reasons
1. Save the bullet- she needs to learn she can't just save everyone and stop infections Lee is harmless and handcuffed to a radiator he isn't a threat to anyone and she needs the bullets to kill real zombies
2. She already had to kill the Stranger who in a way was her friend, a father figure who managed to persuade her that he was a nice guy that she talked to for months... even if he was a bit crazy she still felt for him and shooting 2 people who 'loved' her is just too much
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My reasons for doing so:
1. In all likelihood, Lee was going to die anyway, from either the blood loss or the bite itself. The humane thing to do seemed to be putting Lee out of his misery.
2. What if Lee turned and came back as a walker? Clementine would have been in serious danger, and she would have had to shoot Lee anyway to save herself.
3. I didn't want to see Lee die and reanimate. At this point in the story, you had already seen people, even friends, die and come back as walkers, and there was no way I could have let that happen to Lee. Lee deserved to be remembered as the person who gave his life to save Clementine, not just another victim of the walkers. Maybe I made a bad choice, but the lines between right and wrong tend to blur when you're all teary-eyed.
She already lost both his parents, watched them dead. I didn't want her to have to shoot Lee after what she just witnessed, and what she did to keep him alive.
I felt it would be an insult to kill lee. I let him die as a hero, and not just be mercied. I felt it just be wrong, and that Clem shouldn't see.
Overall, I just never could make Clem pull the trigger... If he died and Clem had the gun aimed at Lee and all you had to do was press the button? Maybe... But for it on autopilot? I wouldn't let Clem do that. Besides I will keep her innocence as much as possible!
Same here,i could not ask Clem to pull the trigger after just seeing her parents and how she was looking forward to get to Savanah,she wasnt stupid she knew what to do if Lee suddenly turned,also Lee was locked up so she was in no danger.
I Still had/have the possibility in my mind that cutting Lee's arm off stopped the infection spreading and the blood loss/shock was causing him to pass out also at the end too,if you think in terms of WD universe now Lee is currently a walker chained up going nuts,alive?;),still passed out,or...anyway
Clementine also had to learn that sometimes you have to be able do difficult things; you don't last long in the world of TWD if you can't.
I hope this affects whether we have an innocent Clem in season 2 or not.
I also don't want Clem to see zombie Lee roaming around or haunting her for not pulling the trigger when she could and end his misery.
Was kind of a no-brainer decision for me.
The reason would be, not wanting her to get used to killing. Because once people get too used to killing, they don't mind it, once they don't mid it, they tend to become psychos on killing sprees. We saw some people like that in the Walking Dead universe already.
She didn't need to waste the bullet, and she didn't need to risk the noise.
I can understand the sentiment of people saying it would be better for Clementine's resolve in the long run, but I've already seen her shoot a man, she didn't need to prove anything to me. The fact that it was minutes after the trauma of realizing that she had lost everyone didn't help.
I had other reasons, but that was first on the list. I was disappointed.
Here's hoping my Lee kills some poor shmuck in Season 2.
What if he kills the PC? Ultimate Season link right there.
As it would turn out, Lee is the only zombie capable of solving environmental puzzles to reach his targets.
That actually would be pretty awesome to have a decision carry over the game like that! Maybe Lee could take out season 2's version of Carley to really piss people off and make people go "Ah WTF I should've kill him when I had the chance!!!!"
Undead me kills living me? Unpossible! That's a universe ending paradox.
Of course, it would be the ultimate expression that my choices matter if the universe blows up...
So what if Clem had a knife, screwdriver, etc. instead? TTG could have an option like "Stab me through the eye." Would that change your decision?
Well, not mine...
Though noise was one of the practical reasons I didn't have her do it. Given she couldn't even really look at Lee when she shoots him, I'm inclined to think she probably couldn't do the job (quickly, anyway) with any sort of muscle-powered melee weapon... we kinda saw as much when she has to try to copy Al Capone with the baseball bat against the guard walker in the store.
No, better she live and leave my undead self to kill my non-undead self next season... unless of course my undead Lee kills her instead, that'd be embarrassing and awkward.
Wanting to cement her closure is one thing, but that'd just be cruel.
Dude wtf!? First of all Owwwwwwwwwwwww. Second just damn. If she missed and he survived, that would just be fucking painful man! No, that would be more of a no!
If he kills the season 2 Carley well.... I'd consider that some loving xD
Nah, Lee's the boss. We'll get another option to keep guiding Clem: "Try the other eye."
Clem: "I'll miss you."
He wasn't DEAD though! He was still alive when he was left
He was effectively dead. Anyway for me i find the thought of someone i cared about as a walker is pretty horrible, like nature playing a grotesque puppet show with their corpses. Could never leave them like that (or to that). I ended Lee's suffering in the most painless way and made sure he could never become one of those things.
Now here's a depressing thought, if Lee wasn't dead when he was left (whilst being pretty obviously terminal) then, because of your decision Lee died alone...
I agree I couldn't just let someone I loved or cared about just die and turn, nor would I just leave them behind, even their dead body really... I wouldn't be able to just leave them to get torn apart and eaten when I could have buried them or burned them or SOMETHING.
I just didn't want Clem to do that. Maybe if she was older, and she didn't have to see her parents as walkers just then, and have a guilty conscience as to why Lee got bitten, or had lost her entire group just prior. How about being a hostage? How about just almost getting killed and needing Lee's help, making her feel useless? she already thought she had no chance of surviving at one point. I just didn't want to cause her any more strain than she had to. Just... really...
My Lee died with Clem... her being the last thing he saw. though i admit i was perhaps selfishly thinking about what i wanted for Lee rather than how it would affect Clementine having to shoot Lee. (not that having to leave him is an awful lot better)
That said i do admire your ability to play through the whole of that game and still take the optimistic approach by the end.
Hahaha, I'll take that as a compliment ^_^ I'm only optimistic to others. Besides, how would you feel if you were alive and someone ended your life? I mean... yeah, if he dies, then maybe he should be "mercied", but until I saw him die, could I really pull the trigger on him and end it? Yeah, maybe what Telltale's people said was true, and that the opinion/theory Lee is dead is true, well oh well. I still wouldn't shoot him until he died unless he was in severe pain. Having to end it like that would just be too painful for both of them. And in all fairness the last thing Lee saw was Clem, and he got to see her walk out safely.
I'd like to say I'd be able to shoot my loved ones and friends in that situation; that I'd have the balls to do what was needed, but I don't know. Just the fact of being the one to end it; the one to cease the light from their eyes; I just don't know. If there is nothing after death, then what? I just obliterated them from existence, and their loss would forever be on my conscience. That, and I wouldn't want to get into a habit of killing people; as if it is normal.
After everything seen in the walking dead, I just wouldn't want to give hope on living. Maybe he did get to it fast enough, and it was just a fluke? What if he's not dreaming!? He needs his top to see if he's awake :P. But seriously, I can't just shoot a living man because everyone thinks he will die and turn, maybe even myself. People didn't give Irene the gun, so why Lee? Why shoot Lee? Maybe he is okay? He wasn't "seen" dead, so I just won't let it happen. If he had turned, and it wasn't Clem to shoot him, I'd pull the trigger. Otherwise, I just think it'd be an insult to kill him.
Lee, murderer of State Senator, survivor of a zombie apocalypse, protector of a little girl, killing machine, and armless badass. Weakness? Walkie talkies and Clementine's mercy.
...He be walking the streets now. Maybe he'll go hang out with Clem's parents. It'll be fun.
Survivors for dinner!
1. Save the bullet- she needs to learn she can't just save everyone and stop infections Lee is harmless and handcuffed to a radiator he isn't a threat to anyone and she needs the bullets to kill real zombies
2. She already had to kill the Stranger who in a way was her friend, a father figure who managed to persuade her that he was a nice guy that she talked to for months... even if he was a bit crazy she still felt for him and shooting 2 people who 'loved' her is just too much
Ditto. Mine still has both arms too.
My undead Lee has zero handicaps.
Hell, I would've slapped a kevlar helmet on him and filed his teeth to points if the game let me.
So I decided not to cripple my Lee in undeath. Does that really make me a bad person?