I was gonna put it in nicer terms, and also that as mentioned in the Mojo post you linked to, this isn't the first time Telltale has...basically done this. Although that was more of a dovetail kinda thing. This might be full on concurrency, more than one game at a time action. Basically.
This is probably because of how Walking Dead turned out and that it didn't turn out to be monthly. Now they can do things bimonthly and still have episodes come out each month.
Although that is going to be a bit confusing for people that get both when they are still in episodes. "Yeah uhh Walking Dead that was cool that bigby loses an arm wait a minute that was Fables. Well that fight scene with Fables was cool and then when the walkers invaded for a... wait... which game is Kenny in again?"
TWD2 is supposed to start in the fall, right? The TWAU season will certainly last into the fall, particularly if it ends up being bimonthly. Maybe they'll just overlap a bit, like TMI and W&G did.
I don't really know if this is the best idea for TTG. With TWD a lot of people joined the forums just to moan and complain about the dates episodes came out where it got as bad as wanting Episode 4 when Episode 3 had only been out around 3 weeks. Then there was the assholes who wanted to spoil episodes for everyone by making fake threads with just spoilers in them. I just feel if TTG did this, there may be more of that bs where people just moan and complain about when Episodes come out.
As far as I remember the only overlap with different series was with Tales of Monkey Island and Wallace & Gromit's Grand Adventure (with the first episode of ToMI coming out before the last episode of W&G).
I don't really know if this is the best idea for TTG. With TWD a lot of people joined the forums just to moan and complain about the dates episodes came out where it got as bad as wanting Episode 4 when Episode 3 had only been out around 3 weeks. Then there was the assholes who wanted to spoil episodes for everyone by making fake threads with just spoilers in them. I just feel if TTG did this, there may be more of that bs where people just moan and complain about when Episodes come out.
As far as I remember - and it is a very vivid memory, as it was indeed just two days ago - the RPS article Mojo draws on was already discussed here.
Unfortunately, neither Mojo nor the Telltale community seems to actually have read said article. The latter might have to do with Mojo linking to the wrong part of the interview, heh. What Bruner says there is:
RPS: Are seasons of Wolf Among Us and Walking Dead going to run concurrently, or will it be one and the other alternating?
Bruner: We’re not announcing any release dates for anything other than Fables right now, but certainly we’re gearing up to have multiple games or shows running simultaneously. We’ll have an episode of one thing coming out at the same time as an episode of another thing, which we’ve never done before. We’re definitely getting prepared for that.
You talked about the technical problems. One of the things that we want to make sure of is that, before we get two games going simultaneously, we get one game going without people having saved game problems and technical issues like that. That’s our immediate goal, to get Fables out there, get it clean, feel confident that if we have two of these things going simultaneously, we have the bandwidth to support it properly. We feel pretty confident that we’re there, but the proof’s in the pudding. We’ll have to wait until Fables launches.
"Gearing up to" being the most important thing here. That doesn't sound like "tomorrow". This was always meant to be how Telltale works, and in seven years' time Telltale has never managed to do it. Never, I said? Never, Bruner said? At least the last episode of Wallace & Gromit and the first Tales episode beg to differ. It was announced & attempted once again with Jurassic Park during Back to the Future's run. You all know that failed.
To sum up:
That is not 'news'. And it's not "bam".
It isn't an announcement about the immediate future.
The tidbit comes with a whole lot of reservations.
We've seen at least one successful and one failed attempt at concurrent releases.
Oops, yes I did link to the wrong part of the article in my Mojo post. Thanks for pointing that out. I've fixed it now.
It seems you're overlooking an important part of that quote too. It seems that this is indeed happening soon. Note the end of that quote you posted: "We feel pretty confident that we’re there, but the proof’s in the pudding. We’ll have to wait until Fables launches."
They have the staff and bandwidth ready to launch multiple titles at the same time now. They just want to make sure that they're able to launch Fables smoothly before they start releasing multiple seasons at once.
I couldn't care less about whatever Telltale is doing now or in the future. And I doubt even Tales of Monkey Island Season 2 would get me to care again. I stopped caring after they failed to do the simple thing and announce King's Quest was done. Fuck 'em.
I won't play their Sam and Max. I won't play their Fables. I won't play Futurama if they do it, even though that's what I wanted for years. And I wish I could get a refund for the Walking Dead.
I'm sick and tired of fake, ugly people in the video game industry. I cared about Telltale because they used to be different from everyone else, outside of maybe Double Fine and Autumn Moon. Now I could not care less. I almost tried to apply for an internship there recently. I ended up not doing this in spite of everyone close to me telling me I'm stupid for not jumping at the chance. Why would I want to work at any company who acts this way? Who refuses to fix horrible glitches. Who refuses to let people know they cancelled a property until months after the fact? What are they going to teach me? Fuck adventure games?
I'll buy an Xbox One before I buy into another Telltale series until I see a serious change of heart in the company. That's it. I am absolutely done.
Ooh, flowers and sunshine! I love everything you like! Does that mean I get to be a cool kid now? WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
I'll go take some fucking medication prescribed precisely to make me care about the things you like. Oh wait, that doesn't exist. I'll play The Walking Dead to the end when Telltale releases a patch that lets me kill Clementine so I can actually have choices in my game instead of being given the illusion I have any choice whatsoever. Maybe I want to be psycho Lee. Oh, can't do that, though. That goes against the carefully crafted linear story we've written, and PEOPLE MIGHT COMPLAIN. NOT THAT.
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Or maybe I'm entitled to my fucking opinion. NOPE. That's not it. THAT'S NEVER IT. Fawful's just a troll.
I don't know why I'm ranting. After all, I'm not entitled to my opinion. I need to get off my high horse and quit trying to change the whole world.
Quite the contrary, Fawful. Getting angry is fine, you just need to use it to do something that will change the world. Get a vision and pursue it, you know. And well, given this is video games, changing the entire world is unlikely, but you can always settle for changing the small subsection of the world that includes adventure games.
I don't know why I'm ranting. After all, I'm not entitled to my opinion. I need to get off my high horse and quit trying to change the whole world.
Nobody said that.
Yet. (*eyes mods*)
However, what I don't understand is why you're still complaining about Telltale not doing classic adventure games anymore. It's not that you shouldn't complain, and not that your complaints aren't legitimate... it's just that nothing new has happened recently (that hasn't already been bitched thoroughly about long before now) to spark a fresh new wave of disdain.
However, what I don't understand is why you're still complaining about Telltale not doing classic adventure games anymore. It's not that you shouldn't complain, and not that your complaints aren't legitimate... it's just that nothing new has happened recently (that hasn't already been bitched thoroughly about long before now) to spark a fresh new wave of disdain.
That's not what I said. That's not at all where my disdain for the company comes from.
You guessed it, they probably never will. They might, however, repeatedly spell out the difference between constructive criticism and desperate insults in light of the situation. You're very much entitled to not liking Telltale's present games. And you can voice it here all right. But tying those last games to a new company direction of stupidity, greed, sellout, lack of skill, treachery and betrayal of their 'old fans'... that's pretentious opportunism. That's the reddit/kotaku "scream insults louder until people think they're fact" approach. Precisely not the direction I'd like to see this forum go.
Hey. I still consider you and Shaun friends. My anger at the company's decisions doesn't end with me considering anyone bad people or having a personal hatred for anyone, although I'd like to punch a few people.
Besides, when my game gets finished, I'll be well on my way to getting fans and then losing them again later.
I'd say it's perfectly alright to get angry about things, as long as it's constructive anger. Sometimes it takes getting furious about something to work to make the changes needed.
While Fawful's overreacting a bit, I can understand where he's coming from. I admit Telltale's current direction is starting to get a little scary.
In a very short span of time, The Walking Dead has gone from being one of many Telltale games, to their biggest game, to (as far as most people are concerned) their only game. Season 2 was announced before the first game was even finished, and now we have DLC in between.
And what about Telltale's other games? King's Quest got cancelled, which I'm still pretty upset about. It's not the cancellation itself, either. That sucks, but things like that happen, especially since it might have been beyond Telltale's control. What really gets me is how, what's the word...unceremoniously it was all handled. Telltale stayed completely silent about KQ for over two years, then (presumably well after they decided to scrap it) quietly announced its cancellation through a third-party site. Most people didn't even notice. There are more people bitching about Walking Dead 2 not coming out immediately than the fact that King's Quest isn't coming out at all.
The Wolf Among Us is being treated better, but not by much. It's had its release pushed from early 2012 to late 2012 to early 2013 to summer 2013. And since 400 Days took all the attention at E3 and is slated for a July release, I'm guessing Fables will be pushed back again. Not that Telltale's in a hurry to release it, since any attempt to talk about it (or any other non-WD game) gets met with a barrage of "I DON'T CARE WHERE'S WALKING DEAD SEASON 2 I HOPE IT COMES OUT TOMORROW AND THAT THERE'S A NEW EPISODE EVERY WEEK." And of course, its gameplay is almost exactly the same as The Walking Dead's.
I know my opinion doesn't mean much in the face of thousands of others that think differently, but I don't think I'll be buying 400 Days or Season 2. Not because I think they'll be bad (I'm sure they'll be fine), but because The Walking Dead has caused so much damage to both Telltale's design philosophy and community that it's left me jaded with the franchise as a whole.
King's Quest got cancelled, which I'm still pretty upset about. It's not the cancellation itself, either. That sucks, but things like that happen, especially since it might have been beyond Telltale's control. What really gets me is how, what's the word...unceremoniously it was all handled. Telltale stayed completely silent about KQ for over two years, then (presumably well after they decided to scrap it) quietly announced its cancellation through a third-party site. Most people didn't even notice. There are more people bitching about Walking Dead 2 not coming out immediately than the fact that King's Quest isn't coming out at all.
This is what got me to where I am. Not "Telltale not making adventure games". Vainamoinen can screw off with putting his words in my mouth.
The minute they did this I gave up. This is what did it. This is why I'm angry.
They had all the time in the world to come clean and tell the truth. But if you asked they'd say "we can't talk about it". If you can't even be honest now, my support is gone.
AND WHY THE FUCK WOULDN'T I BE FUCKING OVERREACTING WHEN I'M GETTING DUMPED ON AND EVERYONE'S PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!?
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Although that is going to be a bit confusing for people that get both when they are still in episodes. "Yeah uhh Walking Dead that was cool that bigby loses an arm wait a minute that was Fables. Well that fight scene with Fables was cool and then when the walkers invaded for a... wait... which game is Kenny in again?"
Telltale's probably not going to release an entirely new project out of the blue with no advance notice. Probably.
Edit: no they actually haven't. But they were close.
I was thinking that Back to the Future and Jurassic Park were pretty close together.
BttF and JP were supposed to have an overlapping release, but then Jurassic Park got pushed back.
As for this:
people will moan regardless.
Unfortunately, neither Mojo nor the Telltale community seems to actually have read said article. The latter might have to do with Mojo linking to the wrong part of the interview, heh. What Bruner says there is:
"Gearing up to" being the most important thing here. That doesn't sound like "tomorrow". This was always meant to be how Telltale works, and in seven years' time Telltale has never managed to do it. Never, I said? Never, Bruner said? At least the last episode of Wallace & Gromit and the first Tales episode beg to differ. It was announced & attempted once again with Jurassic Park during Back to the Future's run. You all know that failed.
To sum up:
It seems you're overlooking an important part of that quote too. It seems that this is indeed happening soon. Note the end of that quote you posted: "We feel pretty confident that we’re there, but the proof’s in the pudding. We’ll have to wait until Fables launches."
They have the staff and bandwidth ready to launch multiple titles at the same time now. They just want to make sure that they're able to launch Fables smoothly before they start releasing multiple seasons at once.
Still, again: I don't think they're there. The proof might be in the pudding, but it's pudding with a lot of starch.
Not if you bite on the hard release date pebbles in the middle.
Yes. So it might be something good.
Back to the Fu I mean, it's obviously not the franchise which makes a good game.
I'm starting to think your not the real Ozzie Mandrill...
I couldn't care less about whatever Telltale is doing now or in the future. And I doubt even Tales of Monkey Island Season 2 would get me to care again. I stopped caring after they failed to do the simple thing and announce King's Quest was done. Fuck 'em.
I won't play their Sam and Max. I won't play their Fables. I won't play Futurama if they do it, even though that's what I wanted for years. And I wish I could get a refund for the Walking Dead.
I'm sick and tired of fake, ugly people in the video game industry. I cared about Telltale because they used to be different from everyone else, outside of maybe Double Fine and Autumn Moon. Now I could not care less. I almost tried to apply for an internship there recently. I ended up not doing this in spite of everyone close to me telling me I'm stupid for not jumping at the chance. Why would I want to work at any company who acts this way? Who refuses to fix horrible glitches. Who refuses to let people know they cancelled a property until months after the fact? What are they going to teach me? Fuck adventure games?
I'll buy an Xbox One before I buy into another Telltale series until I see a serious change of heart in the company. That's it. I am absolutely done.
Ooh, flowers and sunshine! I love everything you like! Does that mean I get to be a cool kid now? WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
I'll go take some fucking medication prescribed precisely to make me care about the things you like. Oh wait, that doesn't exist. I'll play The Walking Dead to the end when Telltale releases a patch that lets me kill Clementine so I can actually have choices in my game instead of being given the illusion I have any choice whatsoever. Maybe I want to be psycho Lee. Oh, can't do that, though. That goes against the carefully crafted linear story we've written, and PEOPLE MIGHT COMPLAIN. NOT THAT.
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Or maybe I'm entitled to my fucking opinion. NOPE. That's not it. THAT'S NEVER IT. Fawful's just a troll.
Quite the contrary, Fawful. Getting angry is fine, you just need to use it to do something that will change the world. Get a vision and pursue it, you know. And well, given this is video games, changing the entire world is unlikely, but you can always settle for changing the small subsection of the world that includes adventure games.
Yet. (*eyes mods*)
However, what I don't understand is why you're still complaining about Telltale not doing classic adventure games anymore. It's not that you shouldn't complain, and not that your complaints aren't legitimate... it's just that nothing new has happened recently (that hasn't already been bitched thoroughly about long before now) to spark a fresh new wave of disdain.
You guessed it, they probably never will. They might, however, repeatedly spell out the difference between constructive criticism and desperate insults in light of the situation. You're very much entitled to not liking Telltale's present games. And you can voice it here all right. But tying those last games to a new company direction of stupidity, greed, sellout, lack of skill, treachery and betrayal of their 'old fans'... that's pretentious opportunism. That's the reddit/kotaku "scream insults louder until people think they're fact" approach. Precisely not the direction I'd like to see this forum go.
Oh, and by the way, Telltale isn't interested in constructive criticism. They run away from criticism.
Besides, when my game gets finished, I'll be well on my way to getting fans and then losing them again later.
OHHOHOHOHOHO. OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO.
I'm messing with you. Seriously though, in the scheme of things ot be angry about in life, a video game company is not one of them.
In a very short span of time, The Walking Dead has gone from being one of many Telltale games, to their biggest game, to (as far as most people are concerned) their only game. Season 2 was announced before the first game was even finished, and now we have DLC in between.
And what about Telltale's other games? King's Quest got cancelled, which I'm still pretty upset about. It's not the cancellation itself, either. That sucks, but things like that happen, especially since it might have been beyond Telltale's control. What really gets me is how, what's the word...unceremoniously it was all handled. Telltale stayed completely silent about KQ for over two years, then (presumably well after they decided to scrap it) quietly announced its cancellation through a third-party site. Most people didn't even notice. There are more people bitching about Walking Dead 2 not coming out immediately than the fact that King's Quest isn't coming out at all.
The Wolf Among Us is being treated better, but not by much. It's had its release pushed from early 2012 to late 2012 to early 2013 to summer 2013. And since 400 Days took all the attention at E3 and is slated for a July release, I'm guessing Fables will be pushed back again. Not that Telltale's in a hurry to release it, since any attempt to talk about it (or any other non-WD game) gets met with a barrage of "I DON'T CARE WHERE'S WALKING DEAD SEASON 2 I HOPE IT COMES OUT TOMORROW AND THAT THERE'S A NEW EPISODE EVERY WEEK." And of course, its gameplay is almost exactly the same as The Walking Dead's.
I know my opinion doesn't mean much in the face of thousands of others that think differently, but I don't think I'll be buying 400 Days or Season 2. Not because I think they'll be bad (I'm sure they'll be fine), but because The Walking Dead has caused so much damage to both Telltale's design philosophy and community that it's left me jaded with the franchise as a whole.
This is what got me to where I am. Not "Telltale not making adventure games". Vainamoinen can screw off with putting his words in my mouth.
The minute they did this I gave up. This is what did it. This is why I'm angry.
They had all the time in the world to come clean and tell the truth. But if you asked they'd say "we can't talk about it". If you can't even be honest now, my support is gone.
AND WHY THE FUCK WOULDN'T I BE FUCKING OVERREACTING WHEN I'M GETTING DUMPED ON AND EVERYONE'S PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!?