About Justin and Danny.....

edited August 2013 in The Walking Dead
The problem I had with the two in the story was that after you shoot of one of two's leg, Vince simply abandons one of them, without any emotion, which just felt contradictory in his story.

I liked Justin AND Danny, regardless of there crimes. Danny seemed like a cool guy and seemed to care about Vince and Justin (Standing in front of that guard's shotgun so THEY wont get hurt, even making a remark that he, Justin, and Vince should get into business which me chuckle), even though he was sort of dumb (But he was pretty funny at it) and is (A confirmed) rapist, Vince still seemed to care about Danny at the campsite.

Justin, even though he was a dick, was pretty straight forward and calm (His remarks to Danny were pretty funny honestly), although he was too much of an asshole than Danny which had me shoot him (Telling Danny he was a rapist fuck caused me to do it, and yeah he was, but you didnt know if he was or not at the time), though at the end, Vince joins Tavia because it seems that he wants to find Justin, showing that Vince may have regards for him.

Now comes the part where you had to shoot on of their legs, it was pretty shocking to me and pretty fucking hard to decide (I chose Justin), and I actually felt bad. But after they got out of the bus, Vince and Danny just abandons Justin to get EATEN ALIVE which I just thought was pretty dumb and gave me a WTF moment. If I was Vince, I'd grab Justin, apologize with all of my damn heart, and just find a way to replace a missing foot (No man gets left behind, and it seemed Vince would help both of em out), though Im not sure considering this though because Justin would probably kill me after SHOOTING off his leg, but a living man is better than a dead man.

Regardless, the ending of that story was just stupid, it just seemed downright odd that Vince and Danny would just leave his ass to Walkers when I just saw them bond and what looked like them being somewhat friends (Hell even Danny complimented to Justin nicely about finding the gun, also they remind me of the Three Stooges for some reason, lol). Yes we did blow off his god damn foot, but come on, you either do that or get eaten, but that part if the person would want revenge for it is the unknown.
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  • edited July 2013
    well, thats the vince we know and love lol

    bntw anyone like how racialy diverse that prison bus was? all in all you had 3 black guys, 2 white guys, a latino and an asian! lol was there like a scholarship or something? X
  • edited July 2013
    I wish there was the option to carry Danny (who I shot) with me, or failing that shoot him out of mercy.
  • edited July 2013
    well, thats the vince we know and love lol

    bntw anyone like how racialy diverse that prison bus was? all in all you had 3 black guys, 2 white guys, a latino and an asian! lol was there like a scholarship or something? X

    Haha Where was the Latino guy???
  • edited July 2013
    Haha Where was the Latino guy???

    Danny is the latino guy, yeah i know he looks as white as blill clinton, but he mentions that his own " Latino heat " is making Justin Hot, so he most likley has Latino heritage, and imo he has a SLIGHT accent, basicly i would nto doubt him if he said he was part latino
  • edited July 2013
    Danny is the latino guy, yeah i know he looks as white as blill clinton, but he mentions that his own " Latino heat " is making Justin Hot, so he most likley has Latino heritage, and imo he has a SLIGHT accent, basicly i would nto doubt him if he said he was part latino

    Wow, he looked white to me, and I thought that was a New York accent haha. So wait, who's the second white guy then??
  • edited July 2013
    Wow, he looked white to me, and I thought that was a New York accent haha. So wait, who's the second white guy then??

    Errr...Justin? TROLOLOL
  • edited July 2013
    Errr...Justin? TROLOLOL

    Yeah, I know Justin is white, but you said there were two white prisoners. Who's the second one?
  • edited July 2013
    Yeah, I know Justin is white, but you said there were two white prisoners. Who's the second one?

    No i just ment the whole bus, the other white dude was the trigger finger guard! lol
  • edited July 2013
    Even if Danny wasn't a rapist, I'd have shot him. It's just too awkward stepping over footless Justin to the exit.
  • edited July 2013
    Well, I guess its every man for himself. How were they supposed to help him? It looked like the same kind of injury that killed that teacher in episode 2. He bled out. I dont know how good friends they were simply because they couldnt have known each other that long unless three friends ended up going to prison at the same time.
  • edited July 2013
    No i just ment the whole bus, the other white dude was the trigger finger guard! lol

    Ohhh ok lol. Yeah, he wasn't very professional, was he??
  • edited July 2013
    Originally I killed Justin on instinct for some reason and later felt kinda stupid since Danny is a rapist and not killing him makes Vince not go to the settlement (which the game kinda forces you to feel is the "good" ending).

    When I played on another save to try killing Danny, I listened to their interactions better and realized I instinctively killed Justin for a reason. Danny was braver, stronger, and more trustworthy than Justin, and even though he may be a confirmed rapist, he didn't seem to be a purposeful angry rapist. He probably made a mistake, possibly even drunkenly (AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S OKAY, JUST BETTER THAN THE RAPISTS WHO RAPE TO HURT AND KILL). Justin purposefully stole from others, lied on the stand, and made no move to help in the prison bus situation.

    And even if Danny is the worst kind of rapist, Vince is a guy and is in no danger of him. He's better off during a zombie apocalypse with a strong and loyal rapist then a weak and untrustworthy conman.
  • edited July 2013
    KCohere wrote: »
    Well, I guess its every man for himself. How were they supposed to help him? It looked like the same kind of injury that killed that teacher in episode 2. He bled out. I dont know how good friends they were simply because they couldnt have known each other that long unless three friends ended up going to prison at the same time.

    That injury the teacher took was horrific, not to mention the teacher lost a shit ton of blood, Justin/Danny didnt look as bad, not to mention they werent yelping in utter pain like him, they just yelled out and cussed at Vince. Also, Dale lost his leg and yet he lived for a while more

    Also you could tell they knew each other when Justin yelled at Danny for pulling the chains and Danny comments to Vince ("Hey Vince! Justin here is wants me to stop!"), implying that they knew each others names before. Justin also questions Vince's crime ("I never really knew alot about you Vince") implying that he knew Vince before the bus. Also the whole business comment that Danny said also implied that he, Vince, and Justin were somewhat friends. I dont know how to say friends in prison, I guess you should acquantices
  • edited July 2013
    I shot Danny. Which is what I would have done in real life. I'll take a conman over a rapist any day of the week.

    On my second play through I shot Justin just to get "the whole story" thing.
  • edited July 2013
    I really wish Danny lived if you shot Justin. He was my favorite character (Besides the main ones) and I don't like Justin that much :p
  • edited July 2013
    I shot Danny. Which is what I would have done in real life. I'll take a conman over a rapist any day of the week.

    On my second play through I shot Justin just to get "the whole story" thing.


    I had everyone go except Vince on my story

    I dont care if you probably have to get everyone to join Tavia, I'd take Danny over Vince, even if he dies later on. It feels like they forced you to do the option to shoot Danny over Justin because apparently he's a Rapist
  • edited July 2013
    I had everyone go except Vince on my story

    I dont care if you probably have to get everyone to join Tavia, I'd take Danny over Vince, even if he dies later on. It feels like they forced you to do the option to shoot Danny over Justin because apparently he's a Rapist

    Danny is a damn rapist. The only thing he is above on the social order is a cannibal. I had no problem shooting him and leaving him there. Let the walkers have a snack well I escaped.
  • edited July 2013
    Danny is a damn rapist. The only thing he is above on the social order is a cannibal. I had no problem shooting him and leaving him there. Let the walkers have a snack well I escaped.

    Apparently you dont understand redemption from convicts, then again Danny did NOT redeem himself apparently.

    Just saying that Danny may have been convicted wrongfully or did it mistakenly, but the whole comment on him at the campsite may turn doubt on thatt
  • edited July 2013
    Apparently you dont understand redemption from convicts, then again Danny did NOT redeem himself apparently.

    Just saying that Danny may have been convicted wrongfully or did it mistakenly, but the whole comment on him at the campsite may turn doubt on thatt

    Danny himself admits he's done "bad things" when you put the gun on him. If you save him Russell mentions something like "Thank God Danny was gone by the time we meet up with Becca and Shel." Hinting further to the fact the Danny is nothing more then a damn rapist.

    And no I don't give a damn about "redemption" for a kiddie rapist. In real life I'd use the rapist as walker bait every time. I don't need people like that in my group.
  • edited July 2013
    Danny himself admits he's done "bad things" when you put the gun on him. If you save him Russell mentions something like "Thank God Danny was gone by the time we meet up with Becca and Shel." Hinting further to the fact the Danny is nothing more then a damn rapist.

    And no I don't give a damn about "redemption" for a kiddie rapist. In real life I'd use the rapist as walker bait every time. I don't need people like that in my group.

    How do you even know if he was a pedophile? Justin was pretty much making fun of Danny for his crime by saying he raped a nine year old's virginity in a pedo van.

    Dont get me wrong, fuck pedophiles, if Danny was that than a rapist, Id wouldve shot him head on, but there was any proof of that, just that he was a rapist
  • edited July 2013
    How do you even know if he was a pedophile? Justin was pretty much making fun of Danny for his crime by saying he raped a nine year old's virginity in a pedo van.

    Dont get me wrong, fuck pedophiles, if Danny was that than a rapist, Id wouldve shot him head on, but there was any proof of that, just that he was a rapist

    That's what I was trying to emphasize earlier. You're still a rapist if she was a consenting underage. You're still a rapist if you were both drunk and she decided to say you raped her. You're the worst kind of rapist if you actually, soberly, cruelly raped someone.
  • edited July 2013
    PotatoCat wrote: »
    Even if Danny wasn't a rapist, I'd have shot him. It's just too awkward stepping over footless Justin to the exit.

    I think the same way.
  • edited July 2013
    How do you even know if he was a pedophile? Justin was pretty much making fun of Danny for his crime by saying he raped a nine year old's virginity in a pedo van.

    Dont get me wrong, fuck pedophiles, if Danny was that than a rapist, Id wouldve shot him head on, but there was any proof of that, just that he was a rapist

    1. He was convicted.
    2. He was being sent to a maximum security prison. Hinting at the fact that he just didn't have sex with a 15 year old girl but actually raped her.
    3. When a gun is pointed at him he admits he has done "bad things".
    4. After Vince brings up Danny if you save him at the end Russell thanks God that he died before they meet up with the girls. Hinting further at the fact Danny was nothing more then the child rapist he was convicted to be.

    Using Danny as walker bait was a pretty easy choice for me. Justin is just a low life conman. I wouldn't trust him obviously, and I'm glad he isn't around but he's better then a damn kiddie rapist.
  • edited July 2013
    1. He was convicted.
    2. He was being sent to a maximum security prison. Hinting at the fact that he just didn't have sex with a 15 year old girl but actually raped her.
    3. When a gun is pointed at him he admits he has done "bad things".
    4. After Vince brings up Danny if you save him at the end Russell thanks God that he died before they meet up with the girls. Hinting further at the fact Danny was nothing more then the child rapist he was convicted to be.

    Using Danny as walker bait was a pretty easy choice for me. Justin is just a low life conman. I wouldn't trust him obviously, and I'm glad he isn't around but he's better then a damn kiddie rapist.

    1. Uh dude... Happens with every rapist
    2. Or he raped a girl older than 15...
    3. Bad things as in raping
    4. Before he met "Shel and Becca", this is tricky since Becca is underage, but Shel is above the age

    There is literally no proof that hes a pedo, every proof we would say against each other would contradict our statements. Hes just a rapist, not a kiddie rapist, not a over age rapist, a plain criminal rapist
  • edited July 2013
    1. Uh dude... Happens with every rapist
    2. Or he raped a girl older than 15...
    3. Bad things as in raping
    4. Before he met "Shel and Becca", this is tricky since Becca is underage, but Shel is above the age

    There is literally no proof that hes a pedo, every proof we would say against each other would contradict our statements. Hes just a rapist, not a kiddie rapist, not a over age rapist, a plain criminal rapist

    He and Justin both say he was convicted of raping a 15 year old girl, the only difference is Danny says he didn't do it. Which is what you would call a "kiddie rapist". Either way I don't feel bad about him being walker bait.
  • edited July 2013
    Danny himself admits he's done "bad things" when you put the gun on him. If you save him Russell mentions something like "Thank God Danny was gone by the time we meet up with Becca and Shel." Hinting further to the fact the Danny is nothing more then a damn rapist.

    And no I don't give a damn about "redemption" for a kiddie rapist. In real life I'd use the rapist as walker bait every time. I don't need people like that in my group.

    I chose danny because i was thinking tactics, he was alot tougher than nerdy Justin and had more balls....Its just asham he used those extra balls to rape someone =[
  • edited July 2013
    I chose danny because i was thinking tactics, he was alot tougher than nerdy Justin and had more balls....Its just asham he used those extra balls to rape someone =[

    I wouldn't have wanted Justin to stay around me either. But if I'm going to build a group of survivors the LAST thing I'd want is some guy who has no problem raping women and kids. The only thing worst then a rapist in a survival scenario is a cannibal. Hell even a murder and a thief have some potential worth in comparison to a rapist.
  • edited July 2013
    I wouldn't have wanted Justin to stay around me either. But if I'm going to build a group of survivors the LAST thing I'd want is some guy who has no problem raping women and kids. The only thing worst then a rapist in a survival scenario is a cannibal. Hell even a murder and a thief have some potential worth in comparison to a rapist.

    I think you are just Jelly =]
  • edited July 2013
    I think you are just Jelly =]

    I think there is something wrong with you if you'd want a known rapist in your group.
  • edited July 2013
    I think there is something wrong with you if you'd want a known rapist in your group.

    Again, read his comments previous page
  • edited July 2013
    I think there is something wrong with you if you'd want a known rapist in your group.

    Maybe you did not hear him, he was wrongly accused man. And he is of latino descent, no way would he have gotten a fair trial in America.
  • edited July 2013
    A cannibal wouldn't be sooo bad if they didn't kill specifically to eat them, and only ate the people who were already dead.
  • edited July 2013
    Maybe you did not hear him, he was wrongly accused man. And he is of latino descent, no way would he have gotten a fair trial in America.

    I hope you were joking on that
  • edited July 2013
    I hope you were joking on that

    No im cereal, what? lol
  • edited July 2013
    PotatoCat wrote: »
    A cannibal wouldn't be sooo bad if they didn't kill specifically to eat them, and only ate the people who were already dead.

    Ewww, i wouldent want a guy who eats corpses in my crew
  • edited July 2013
    No im cereal, what? lol

    Nothing, just chuckled on the comment, lol

    Also, at the end of Tavia's story, it is confirmed that Danny was a rapist, so it could be assumed that he actually did got a fair trial
  • edited July 2013
    Maybe you did not hear him, he was wrongly accused man. And he is of latino descent, no way would he have gotten a fair trial in America.

    I heard him fine it was "NO VINCE DON'T LEAVE ME!!" and I smiled delightfully as I exited the back of the bus as the front cage broke and the kiddie rapist screamed in fear as I made my way to freedom, and the walkers found some lunch.
  • edited July 2013
    Nothing, just chuckled on the comment, lol

    Also, at the end of Tavia's story, it is confirmed that Danny was a rapist, so it could be assumed that he actually did got a fair trial

    You mean by what Russel said?
  • edited July 2013
    I heard him fine it was "NO VINCE DON'T LEAVE ME!!" and I smiled delightfully as I exited the back of the bus as the front cage broke and the kiddie rapist screamed in fear as I made my way to freedom, and the walkers found some lunch.

    lol that dont happen you trolololo you leave the bus and it ends episode, dont be like that =]
  • edited July 2013
    You mean by what Russel said?

    Yeah
    I heard him fine it was "NO VINCE DON'T LEAVE ME!!" and I smiled delightfully as I exited the back of the bus as the front cage broke and the kiddie rapist screamed in fear as I made my way to freedom, and the walkers found some lunch.

    Again, no confirmation if he raped kids
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