what? you know dem mods luv dat poone! lol why the hell you think they BECOME Mods dude? for the cooch nomsayin?
Can you really please stop though
Look, you know why I wanted to him join? Because I'm completiionist.
But I'm going to honest here - you are correct. Do we actually want them to join Tavia? We don't know. I mean, Bonnie is too really dependent on others, especially emotionally. It's no wonder she joined.
Russell didn't join because he is a really individualistic guy. Vince doesn't join because he's loyal to the original group (if you saved Danny).
Hilariously, Im completionist too, but we dont know for now about Tavia, not to mention I found having to kill Danny complete bullshit in my opinion, so Im having everyone go except Vince and Russell, if that settlement is just another Woodbury, Im pulling them out in rewind the minute I know (I only had Wyatt join because I want him to find Eddie)
That's why I agree. We don't know. Is it a good idea for them to join? Who knows? My guess is Tavia is not one of the bad guys, though there might be bad guys even in a good camp. We don't know. We could sent everyone to their deaths. We could have saved them. Who knows?
I am a completionist also, I have my doubt that this settlement will be any good, but it does beat sitting in a camp.
That's a fair point, especially out in the open with a bonfire. That doesn't strike as very safe. That being said, we don't know how they got together. If you get everyone, here's generally what happens. Vince wants to join because he's tired of being out there alone, Bonnie joins because she's too trusting, Wyatt either joins because he feels guilty and wants to find Eddie, or like Russell, joins because you said there might be people there they know, and with Shel joining because she's afraid of Roman's retribution (I know there's another possibility, but the only way to get Shel/Becca AND russell is for Shel to run away).
I am a completionist also, I have my doubt that this settlement will be any good, but it does beat sitting in a camp.
I am thinking of this:
Shel and Beth go because a settlement is better for Shel taking care of her young sister (Even if I rewind)
Bonnie goes regardless
Wyatt goes SOLELY so I can hope I find Eddie (If I dont, Im rewinding to have him stay because hes friends with Vince for saving his life)
Russell stay (Thinking of rewind if he doesnt finds his family)
Vince stay (Fuck Tavias settlement, Im having him leave the Bus with Danny cause he's friends with Vince and cares about him)
The part that made me WTF is when they didn't mercy kill the guy the left.
Cuz being eaten alive is so much better.
Fuck, thats true as well, it wouldve satisfied me because he shows a degree of friendship/emotion to him after what we saw literally minutes ago and not make this thread actually lol
Fuck, thats true as well, it wouldve satisfied me because he shows a degree of friendship/emotion to him after what we saw literally minutes ago and not make this thread actually lol
I think it's panic. Like Lee said, when you're in the heat of moment, there is no choice. I mean, do you kill him or not? If there were no zombies, of course you wouldn't kill him. But they were thinking in "pre-zombie" terms.
Just throwing in my support for not automatically condemning Danny without knowing the facts of his case. We as players have absolutely no hard evidence that Danny is a rapist. We don't know the facts of his trial, we don't know what kind of character his alleged victim was, we don't know if Danny's violent/a liar/a drunk/misogynistic, we don't know what the relationship with his girlfriend was like. We hardly know any details at all. Just that he was convicted for rape and is headed to prison, and that Russell may have caught wind of this conviction and condemns him for it later.
If he raped anyone, regardless of their age, then he deserves an unfortunate fate. But I agree with everyone who is saying that there simply isn't any concrete way of knowing for sure whether he's truthfully a rapist or not.
Originally I killed Justin on instinct for some reason and later felt kinda stupid since Danny is a rapist and not killing him makes Vince not go to the settlement (which the game kinda forces you to feel is the "good" ending).
When I played on another save to try killing Danny, I listened to their interactions better and realized I instinctively killed Justin for a reason. Danny was braver, stronger, and more trustworthy than Justin, and even though he may be a confirmed rapist, he didn't seem to be a purposeful angry rapist. He probably made a mistake, possibly even drunkenly (AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S OKAY, JUST BETTER THAN THE RAPISTS WHO RAPE TO HURT AND KILL). Justin purposefully stole from others, lied on the stand, and made no move to help in the prison bus situation.
And even if Danny is the worst kind of rapist, Vince is a guy and is in no danger of him. He's better off during a zombie apocalypse with a strong and loyal rapist then a weak and untrustworthy conman.
Danny might not be a danger to Vince but what about Clementine? That's why I shot him. That happened on day 2 which means that he could have ended up being one of the people Clementine saw on the hill at the end of season 1 since the developers said that people will only be in season 2 that were in the 400 days dlc if we made certain choices in the dlc. The way I see it he's one sicko less for me to worry about when Clementine returns in season 2.
I think Danny is guilty of rape, at the least. Maybe it wasn't a 15 year old girl, maybe it was, but I still think he's guilty of rape. And that's enough for me to not feel sorry for him. Granted, pretty much everyone on that bus was scum, and likely deserved a similar fate, but if I had to pick one person to shoot it would be Danny. I shot him in my first playthrough, and didn't feel guilty. Heck, it WAS his idea to shoot off the cuffs, which means he pretty much volunteered, but the fact is he could do far more damage than Justin could, if we're just going by crimes commited before the apocalypse.
I am thinking of this:
Shel and Beth go because a settlement is better for Shel taking care of her young sister (Even if I rewind)
Bonnie goes regardless
Wyatt goes SOLELY so I can hope I find Eddie (If I dont, Im rewinding to have him stay because hes friends with Vince for saving his life)
Russell stay (Thinking of rewind if he doesnt finds his family)
Vince stay (Fuck Tavias settlement, Im having him leave the Bus with Danny cause he's friends with Vince and cares about him)
Let's hope that the guy you saved doesn't end up being one of the people Clem see's on the hill at the end of ep5. Remember how telltale work. The food in the abandoned car in ep 2 looked consequence free and we know how that turned out. The difference here is in season 1 you had the same ending even if you didn't take the guys food but with season 2, Telltale have said that you may see characters from 400 days if you make certain choices in the dlc. I don't know about you but if Clem was to cross paths with one of the people Vince helped escape I would rather it be the guy who stole people's money than the guy who can't keep his dick in his pants. Danny was convicted of rape before the apocalypse when there were laws, what the fuck do people think he would do now that society has broken down? In the new world there is no police, anything goes. Rape is common in the apocalypse, it's done by folk that wouldn't have considered it in the world before. For that reason, Danny scares the hell out of me.
I think Danny is actually a rapist, and that he raped someone when Vince was here. When Tavia comes at the camp and Russell implies that he did some nasty stuff, Vince doesn't try to defend him, even though he seemed to like him. I mean, would a guy like Vince let a pal being accused of something he said he didn't do ?
Would be awful, but really TWDesque if the people Clem has seen were Vince and Danny if you saved him.
When Tavia comes at the camp and Russell implies that he did some nasty stuff, Vince doesn't try to defend him, even though he seemed to like him. I mean, would a guy like Vince let a pal being accused of something he said he didn't do?
Russell didn't imply that Danny did anything, though; he just calls him an asshole and says it's a good thing he left before they found Shel and Becca. Which, at most, implies that Russell knew of either Danny's rape charges or that Danny maybe had a misogynistic attitude in general.
I don't think Vince tries to defend him because they have more pressing matters at hand. He has a gun pointed at Tavia, who he thinks is potentially dangerous. He's not about to lose focus so he can discuss whether or not some guy who he may never see again is actually a rapist or not.
Agreed. I liked both guys (crimes aside) but ended up shooting Justin as he kept going on about how much he didn't regret what he did and was good at lying, etc so he seemed more likely to stab you in the back. However I didn't realize that shooting the chain off meant you left them behind to get killed, I figured you'd drag them out and at least try to help. You didn't even have the option to put him out of his misery. And in the end if you save Danny he dies off-screen anyway so it didn't matter.
Also I thought it was stupid how this one decision decided if Vince would go with Tavia or not. How did that have any impact? In the other scenarios it made sense: for example Wyatt feels bad abandoning his friend and wants to find him vs Wyatt getting abandoned by his friend and not trusting anyone. But for Vince it didn't really make any sense.
I almost smashed my left click the first time that moment/scene started rolling it, I kept thinking (DON'T LEAVE HIM BEHIND DON'T LEAVE HIM BEHIND) omg, it's always an impossible situation that 2 are in, only 1 gets out, IRL if that really happened u could save the one u shot or something.
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Before you played at all, lol? xD I assume you mean after your first runthrough.
Can you really please stop though
Hilariously, Im completionist too, but we dont know for now about Tavia, not to mention I found having to kill Danny complete bullshit in my opinion, so Im having everyone go except Vince and Russell, if that settlement is just another Woodbury, Im pulling them out in rewind the minute I know (I only had Wyatt join because I want him to find Eddie)
Cuz being eaten alive is so much better.
I am thinking of this:
Shel and Beth go because a settlement is better for Shel taking care of her young sister (Even if I rewind)
Bonnie goes regardless
Wyatt goes SOLELY so I can hope I find Eddie (If I dont, Im rewinding to have him stay because hes friends with Vince for saving his life)
Russell stay (Thinking of rewind if he doesnt finds his family)
Vince stay (Fuck Tavias settlement, Im having him leave the Bus with Danny cause he's friends with Vince and cares about him)
Fuck, thats true as well, it wouldve satisfied me because he shows a degree of friendship/emotion to him after what we saw literally minutes ago and not make this thread actually lol
If he raped anyone, regardless of their age, then he deserves an unfortunate fate. But I agree with everyone who is saying that there simply isn't any concrete way of knowing for sure whether he's truthfully a rapist or not.
Danny might not be a danger to Vince but what about Clementine? That's why I shot him. That happened on day 2 which means that he could have ended up being one of the people Clementine saw on the hill at the end of season 1 since the developers said that people will only be in season 2 that were in the 400 days dlc if we made certain choices in the dlc. The way I see it he's one sicko less for me to worry about when Clementine returns in season 2.
Would be awful, but really TWDesque if the people Clem has seen were Vince and Danny if you saved him.
I don't think Vince tries to defend him because they have more pressing matters at hand. He has a gun pointed at Tavia, who he thinks is potentially dangerous. He's not about to lose focus so he can discuss whether or not some guy who he may never see again is actually a rapist or not.
Also I thought it was stupid how this one decision decided if Vince would go with Tavia or not. How did that have any impact? In the other scenarios it made sense: for example Wyatt feels bad abandoning his friend and wants to find him vs Wyatt getting abandoned by his friend and not trusting anyone. But for Vince it didn't really make any sense.
Justin was a fraudster not a Drug Dealer