Do you think Vernon's fate was Poetic Justice?

edited August 2013 in The Walking Dead
From 400 days we found out that Vernon most likely died when trying to steal the boat.Do you think it was a deserved death. I personally do.
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  • edited July 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    From 400 days we found out that Vernon most likely died when trying to steal the boat.Do you think it was a deserved death. I personally do.

    That makes two of us.
  • edited July 2013
    It's no worse than Kenny stealing the Supplies from the car...
  • edited July 2013
    I prefer to withhold judgement until season 2 confirms Vernon is dead dead. "Lost" could mean any number of things.
  • edited July 2013
    Hudomonkey wrote: »
    It's no worse than Kenny stealing the Supplies from the car...

    Well, except that even Kenny wouldn't take it if the people were still in / at the car. That and one of Vernon's Ex group members says that it was Vernon's plan all along to steal the boat.
  • edited July 2013
    Hudomonkey wrote: »
    It's no worse than Kenny stealing the Supplies from the car...

    I disagree because we thought it was abandoned,because I mean who in their right mind would leave a car full of supplies.Vernon knew that the boat was our plan and he knew that the herd was coming so he decided to steal the boat knowing that our group would most likely die, a group that included a little girl. We were surviving when we took the supplies in the car, Vernon was being selfish and effectively signed our death warrants when he stole the boat.
  • edited July 2013
    Hudomonkey wrote: »
    It's no worse than Kenny stealing the Supplies from the car...

    No, it's not. Kenny and the group thought the car was abandon and the people weren't there, nor did they know them personally. Vernon had interacted with Kenny and the group, knew the boat was theirs, and still stole it for his own selfish needs.
  • edited July 2013
    I don't really care whether or not Vernon died. First off, I never liked the boat plan. Also, everyone treats Vernon like some kind of monster for stealing the boat, but I would have done the same thing in all honesty. Seriously, if a group of strangers came to town leading a gigantic horde of zombies, got one of my group members killed, and then planned to ditch my group as the city got overrun, I wouldn't hesitate to steal their boat. Don't know about you guys though. Maybe you're all saints that would have sacrificed your close companions as well as yourself for the sake of complete strangers who ruined your lives.:p
  • edited July 2013
    I don't if he is dead, part of me is happy he is dead since he took the boat but part of me also thinks he is not as bad as Lilly and did not deserve death, if he took the boat and left his own people to die, which is possible but it was never said he did exactly that, he deserves to die, I guess I would vote not to but I am not sure.
  • edited July 2013
    I don't think he's dead, I want to kill the guy not to be told he's dead. But if he is then he f*cking deserve it, the piece of sh*t. You should see how much I wanted to kill him in the 'Would you kill Vernon' thread and then you'd know how much I hate him.
  • edited July 2013
    I want him to be alive so I can kill that motherfucker again...
    Then I can kill one more time as a walker... For good.
  • edited July 2013
    Hey. We stole everything from a seemingly abandoned station wagon in the middle of the forest.
  • edited July 2013
    Hey. We stole everything from a seemingly abandoned station wagon in the middle of the forest.

    Yeah but we din't know if the owner was still alive . For all we know the people who owned the station wagon got killed by the bandits .
  • edited July 2013
    Well I would not have killed him, beat the hell out of him but not kill him, that killing is reserved for only one person, and you know who I mean.
  • edited July 2013
    Well I would not have killed him, beat the hell out of him but not kill him, that killing is reserved for only one person, and you know who I mean.

    Kenny , Clementine or Zombie Lee .
  • edited July 2013
    Zombie leeeee
  • edited July 2013
    Have to admit I gave a little smile when I found out Vernon's group went south after they stole the boat.
  • edited July 2013
    Yeah but we din't know if the owner was still alive . For all we know the people who owned the station wagon got killed by the bandits .

    have you played ep 5 ?
  • edited July 2013
    We don't know exactly what happened or if he's dead, but after hearing a decent guy like Boyd say that their group was broken by dilemma of Vernon wanting the boat I didn't take much satisfaction in it.
  • edited July 2013
    have you played ep 5 ?

    Yes i played it . What i'm trying to say is that before episode 5 came out , we all thought that the station wagon was really abandoned and the owner AKA Campman died either by walkers or bandits , Vernon knew that we wanted the boat and that we would come back but he still wanted to take it .
  • edited July 2013
    Im not even sure what his fate is. I thought he died but now Im not so sure.
  • edited July 2013
    While I'm not saying he desrved to die painfully or anything for what he did, I must admit that I like the idea of him getting killed because he stole the boat. At most, I'd say I'd beat the crap out of him for what he did to us, since I don't like killing for revenge, but in this case, he brought it on himself, so I voted yes.
  • edited July 2013
    just checkin ;)
  • edited July 2013
    He did what I would have done.
    Every man for himself.
  • edited July 2013
    He didn't deserve to die.

    He deserves to live, so he can be overrun with guilt knowing that he destroyed so many lives without a second thought.

    He should be awoken every night by the images of Brie and Boyd and Clive and Joyce, haunted by the faces of the people he used and then threw away like garbage.

    He should suffer the painful realization that he is no longer what we call human. He is a monster.
  • edited July 2013
    Mornai wrote: »
    He didn't deserve to die.

    He deserves to live, so he can be overrun with guilt knowing that he destroyed so many lives without a second thought.

    He should be awoken every night by the images of Brie and Boyd and Clive and Joyce, haunted by the faces of the people he used and then threw away like garbage.

    He should suffer the painful realization that he is no longer what we call human. He is a monster.

    To quote Lee, "Damn Girl,that's cold!"
  • edited July 2013
    Guess what. On my playthrough, Clem and I didn't steal shit from the car. So of course I'm against Vernon, and what he did.
  • edited July 2013
    Even if we still had the boat end of Season 1 what would the difference have been?
    Lee still would have turned...
    If anything Kenny would have likely abandoned Clem for the boat...
    Omid and Christa didn't even want the boat...
    Did Vernon actually harm the group?
    The boat wasn't going to make everything better and Kenny who refused to go with me probably would have left Lee and Clem behind whilst Christa and Omid went with Lee...
    If anything Vernon stealing the boat focused the team and ensured Clem was rescued...
  • edited July 2013
    I do not think Kenny would abandon Clementine, he acts like she is a daughter to him, the boat might not have been the best choice for surviving but I could not think of any better at the time, so I did not disagree.
  • edited July 2013
    Everyone acts as if the boat being stolen killed them all when either it would make little difference as they would all act the same and have the same fate or if their forces had been split to prepare and protect the boat, Clementine may have not been saved in time before her new Mummy gave her a kiss...
  • edited July 2013
    Hudomonkey wrote: »
    Everyone acts as if the boat being stolen killed them all when either it would make little difference as they would all act the same and have the same fate or if their forces had been split to prepare and protect the boat, Clementine may have not been saved in time before her new Mummy gave her a kiss...

    I disagree because I think if they were able to reach the boat they could escape the herd by living out on sea for a day or two and then they could take their chances in the countryside or stay in the boat or even split up. The boat served as a viable escape route out of Savannah and away from the herd.
  • edited July 2013
    Hudomonkey wrote: »
    It's no worse than Kenny stealing the Supplies from the car...

    Do you realize the Stranger was a jackass for leaving a bunch of supplies in the middle of a massively-widened area full of potential survivors and zombies? He's the one responsible for his own shit, not Lee or the group.
  • edited August 2013
    Vernon's fate is undetermined actually, they didn't say he died. All we know for sure is that he is no longer in the group, and that stealing the boat caused a divide in the group.

    Since they didn't say for certain that he was dead, I think we are going to run into him in Season 2.
  • edited August 2013
    I don't really care whether or not Vernon died. First off, I never liked the boat plan. Also, everyone treats Vernon like some kind of monster for stealing the boat, but I would have done the same thing in all honesty. Seriously, if a group of strangers came to town leading a gigantic horde of zombies, got one of my group members killed, and then planned to ditch my group as the city got overrun, I wouldn't hesitate to steal their boat. Don't know about you guys though. Maybe you're all saints that would have sacrificed your close companions as well as yourself for the sake of complete strangers who ruined your lives.:p

    I'm with this man right here. I stole from the station wagon with no regrets, and, if it were the other way around (Vernon's group was the one who had the boat and Lee's group had the opportunity to steal it), guess what, I'd have done that too. Even if I liked Vernon throughout the Crawford part, and I took pity on his group, but if I have to choose between screwing them over and staying in the overrun city, where our group is very much likely to die? I'll say "screw it" and take the boat. I don't care if that makes me a monster in their eyes, my group is the one that matters to me. Clementine is the one that matters.
  • edited August 2013
    I'm not sure where you got that from. It sounded to me as if he stabbed the cancer patients in the back too and took the boat by himself.
  • edited August 2013
    Scaeva wrote: »
    Vernon's fate is undetermined actually, they didn't say he died. All we know for sure is that he is no longer in the group, and that stealing the boat caused a divide in the group.

    Since they didn't say for certain that he was dead, I think we are going to run into him in Season 2.

    Season 2 needs at least one character that needs an ambiguous fate. Many times when a character leaves and doesn't die, people expect them to come back. It's a great big world. It'd be more realistic to never see Vernon again in my opinion, unless Kenny's fate gives an answer or S2's player character is exploring Savannah.
  • edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    I disagree because we thought it was abandoned,because I mean who in their right mind would leave a car full of supplies.Vernon knew that the boat was our plan and he knew that the herd was coming so he decided to steal the boat knowing that our group would most likely die, a group that included a little girl. We were surviving when we took the supplies in the car, Vernon was being selfish and effectively signed our death warrants when he stole the boat.

    to quote the nostalgia critic
    "yes, go to the people nearing the end of their existence and leave behind the children who are young and full of life"
  • edited August 2013
    He also said he was a motherfucking T-Rex once.
  • edited August 2013
    He also said he was a motherfucking T-Rex once.

    THATS the song that should have played in Lees last stand
  • edited August 2013
    I know right, and for the people who have no idea what I am talking about someone post a link, it was great.
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