Aren't we all. But just like the obsolete and mysterious rules they govern their censorship with, they will leave us in the dark about what ex… moreactly was censored. This is obviously pretty wrong ethically.
Anyone know the email of the board of classification so I can send them a stern but politely worded letter asking them why they are modifying an already paid for product, when I am over 18, and thus can be expected (as an adult) to be able to intelligently and responsibly enjoy content that I choose to experience?
I sent a letter to the classification board, reading this:
"To whom it may concern,
I am an adult living in Australia. As such, there is a R18+ classification for video games for games not suitable for children. However, according to your classification on 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2, A HOUSE DIVIDED', the game has been modified to fit into the R18+ rating. I am a working and paying man, and I do not see why R18+ games should be modified in the first place, there is a reason why it was given the R18+ rating. Here is a link for an interesting and relevant Youtube video I have found:
On top of this, games like GTA V have not been censored even smaller games (compared to GTA V) such as 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2' and 'State of Decay' are censored.
It seems like your mentality is that people will just copy what happens in games. Does everyone who plays GTA V become a Pimp? No. Does everyone who plays 'The Walking Dead: Season 1' want to chop someone's leg off, and eat them? No. We are adults, we know the difference between right and wrong. People who do extreme things because of video games most likely have mental issues anyway, and the general Australian public should not be punished like this for one or two outcasts."
I sent a letter to the classification board, reading this:
"To whom it may concern,
I am an adult living in Australia. As such, there is… more a R18+ classification for video games for games not suitable for children. However, according to your classification on 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2, A HOUSE DIVIDED', the game has been modified to fit into the R18+ rating. I am a working and paying man, and I do not see why R18+ games should be modified in the first place, there is a reason why it was given the R18+ rating. Here is a link for an interesting and relevant Youtube video I have found:
On top of this, games like GTA V have not been censored even smaller games (compared to GTA V) such as 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2' and 'State of Decay' are censored.
It seems like your mentality is that people will just copy what happens in games. Does everyone who plays GTA V become a Pimp? No. Does everyone who plays 'The Walking Dead: Seaso… [view original content]
I'm with you on this. Lets post our (polite and well written) concerns to the Australian Classification board about the difference between reality and fantasy, and the nature of censoring content that is already meant for adults only. Please add this to the title description. Show us your letters here forum, so we can share our various opinions about the topic with each other as well as the Australian Classification Board.
I sent a letter to the classification board, reading this:
"To whom it may concern,
I am an adult living in Australia. As such, there is… more a R18+ classification for video games for games not suitable for children. However, according to your classification on 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2, A HOUSE DIVIDED', the game has been modified to fit into the R18+ rating. I am a working and paying man, and I do not see why R18+ games should be modified in the first place, there is a reason why it was given the R18+ rating. Here is a link for an interesting and relevant Youtube video I have found:
On top of this, games like GTA V have not been censored even smaller games (compared to GTA V) such as 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2' and 'State of Decay' are censored.
It seems like your mentality is that people will just copy what happens in games. Does everyone who plays GTA V become a Pimp? No. Does everyone who plays 'The Walking Dead: Seaso… [view original content]
What was modified in 400 days? I don't recall any sex or drug use in my Australian version. (It says on the AUS classification board that 400 days has sex and drug use for some strange reason) Anyone in america, please tell me if there would be any obvious differences that you can see.
Can confirm. http://www.classification.gov.au/Pages/View.aspx?sid=WtwNDvxQvcjfK0TqUfdmMQ%3d%3d&ncdctx=VK%2f3zAW6nHyaBDN0u0Om%2f0z+oPYdYnmChtXpzCaISO0U4qY2l+%2f64LL1mlgLREeH
Maybe it won't be so bad after all?
Another main point, is that if someone does have mental issues and is indulging them instead of seeking help, censoring one game will not stop them. If they are already getting kicks out of violence, they aren't going to have any trouble resorting to piracy or just watching SAW over and over again instead, which is a title which you guys DID allow into Australia.
I sent a letter to the classification board, reading this:
"To whom it may concern,
I am an adult living in Australia. As such, there is… more a R18+ classification for video games for games not suitable for children. However, according to your classification on 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2, A HOUSE DIVIDED', the game has been modified to fit into the R18+ rating. I am a working and paying man, and I do not see why R18+ games should be modified in the first place, there is a reason why it was given the R18+ rating. Here is a link for an interesting and relevant Youtube video I have found:
On top of this, games like GTA V have not been censored even smaller games (compared to GTA V) such as 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2' and 'State of Decay' are censored.
It seems like your mentality is that people will just copy what happens in games. Does everyone who plays GTA V become a Pimp? No. Does everyone who plays 'The Walking Dead: Seaso… [view original content]
So, how does Australia censor this kinda stuff? Surely it can't be as bad as Germany's censorship. Know Team Fortress 2? I am 23 and have to watch people explode into rubber ducks and mono cycles. THAT sucks.
most likely drugs cause our board thinks no one takes drugs in our country unless they play a game that has drug use seriously they need to get their heads out of their asses there are teens that do drugs here the government should focus on stopping that instead of as they like to call it protecting us seriously
I'm not Australian, but that was a great letter. The kind of letter that would make anyone with common sense look twice and reconsider that classification system.
I sent a letter to the classification board, reading this:
"To whom it may concern,
I am an adult living in Australia. As such, there is… more a R18+ classification for video games for games not suitable for children. However, according to your classification on 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2, A HOUSE DIVIDED', the game has been modified to fit into the R18+ rating. I am a working and paying man, and I do not see why R18+ games should be modified in the first place, there is a reason why it was given the R18+ rating. Here is a link for an interesting and relevant Youtube video I have found:
On top of this, games like GTA V have not been censored even smaller games (compared to GTA V) such as 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2' and 'State of Decay' are censored.
It seems like your mentality is that people will just copy what happens in games. Does everyone who plays GTA V become a Pimp? No. Does everyone who plays 'The Walking Dead: Seaso… [view original content]
I bet it has something to do with bandits using drugs or maybe carlos has morphine stashed away and we get a chance to cut pete's foot off and… more he uses it? who knows it is probably something small cause the classification board think it can harm the children of our perfect country
I think it was because of nick or w/e his name was in Russel's story. How he demanded russel to rate a girls boob's and to get his 'beak wet'. As for drugs, I'm not really sure..
What was modified in 400 days? I don't recall any sex or drug use in my Australian version. (It says on the AUS classification board that 400 … moredays has sex and drug use for some strange reason) Anyone in america, please tell me if there would be any obvious differences that you can see.
yea well what you don't know it that gta v was rated r just for drug use that is it even tho it had major violence and nudity it only says drug use on the box the board are inconsistent and misleading
I think it was because of nick or w/e his name was in Russel's story. How he demanded russel to rate a girls boob's and to get his 'beak wet'. As for drugs, I'm not really sure..
I think it was because of nick or w/e his name was in Russel's story. How he demanded russel to rate a girls boob's and to get his 'beak wet'. As for drugs, I'm not really sure..
I'm really hoping Telltale sheds some light on this themselves, this is a pretty serious issue affecting the content we receive, not to mention how much the content might be warped to be less enjoyable story.
I hear Germany's got it pretty bad as well. My heart goes out to anyone who has to deal with half as much BS as Australians. Typically in Aust… moreralia if there is any form of real drug in a game, it is refused classification straight away (to this day I'm not 100% certain how the GTA series got through).
I was at E3 where i met a guy who was doing studies om how gaming aids developement of things like hand eye co-ordination, lateral thinking, problem solving ability etc.
Someone who's goes postal after playing Postal is a fucking nutbag who would've found an excuse.
The classification thing really sucks ass for you guys. Australia is an awesome place. You guys deserve to get your games when everyone else does. If it's games are downloaded straight from the developer over the internet or on steam or something they should be classification free.
I don't believe in classifications anyway. They're no substitute for good parenting.
I dare say you could still get it if you put the effort in they had internet access at Tahrir Square despit the Egyptian government, it should be pretty easy to by-pass the censors if you go hunting, but it'd mean playing a fucking pirate and TT wouldn't get paid
There are always ways around, through or over anything on the internet, it's the Last Free State but it means bootlegs and they suck ass because the developer shouldn't be punished for a stupid government ruling, and with a pirate TT wouldn't get paid.
Piracy damages the whole industry, and it sucks that stupid censorship laws encourage it. I'm virulently anti-piracy when it comes to games, but if someone told me I had to play a censored version of my favorite game or worse not play it all I'd maybe re-consider my position and it's not right or fair.
The whole problem I have with censorship is it's basically just someones opinion, and usually the opinions of hopelessly outdated people.
What offends a 64 year old woman probably isn't gonna offend me. It's forcing opinions down peoples throats.
I live in Australia but I want to play the full game, not the shitty, cencored, torn to pieces game.
Is there any way I can get around this? I really want to play the game that Telltale intended for me to play.
I don't mean to be rude but the 60 year olds on the board are gonna die out soon or go into retirement and then the next generation that grew up at the start of the video game industry will take over and hopefully then we won't have to deal with this bullshit
There are always ways around, through or over anything on the internet, it's the Last Free State but it means bootlegs and they suck ass becau… morese the developer shouldn't be punished for a stupid government ruling, and with a pirate TT wouldn't get paid.
Piracy damages the whole industry, and it sucks that stupid censorship laws encourage it. I'm virulently anti-piracy when it comes to games, but if someone told me I had to play a censored version of my favorite game or worse not play it all I'd maybe re-consider my position and it's not right or fair.
The whole problem I have with censorship is it's basically just someones opinion, and usually the opinions of hopelessly outdated people.
What offends a 64 year old woman probably isn't gonna offend me. It's forcing opinions down peoples throats.
All I want to know is if it's about the use of drugs or violence. I'm getting pretty sick of people using drugs for medical reasons, for villa… morenous characters like the bandits abusing drugs-and being shown to be fucking insane, not exactly people you want to aspire to be, and still getting cencored because "Drugs are bad Mkayy".
Or when they censor violence without any scientific data backing them up that the depicted violence or other behavior is actually bad for the viewers mental health.
It's fucking madness that they are allowed to censor what content the whole country has access to without proof of it's negative effects on the population.
God forbid we learn that medicine is used to help people sometimes.
Do you what else is evil here? Streaming. Netflix, South park, cartoon network etc give all these full episodes for no fee (well, except Netfl… moreix), but us Australian's are IP locked so we can't watch them. No wonder we are so behind the rest of the western world
What was modified in 400 days? I don't recall any sex or drug use in my Australian version. (It says on the AUS classification board that 400 … moredays has sex and drug use for some strange reason) Anyone in america, please tell me if there would be any obvious differences that you can see.
I don't mean to be rude but the 60 year olds on the board are gonna die out soon or go into retirement and then the next generation that grew … moreup at the start of the video game industry will take over and hopefully then we won't have to deal with this bullshit
Fuck I hate the Australian classification board. I cant remember exactly what it was but Beyond: two souls was rated R for referenced sexual v… moreiolence. Actually I think that was Metro: last light ( that was R too). Anyway what the does that mean . Also yes, Beyond; two souls and metro: last light was R as well. P.S I live in Australia
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haha true it makes us depressed after season 1's ending
Can confirm. http://www.classification.gov.au/Pages/View.aspx?sid=WtwNDvxQvcjfK0TqUfdmMQ%3d%3d&ncdctx=VK%2f3zAW6nHyaBDN0u0Om%2f0z+oPYdYnmChtXpzCaISO0U4qY2l+%2f64LL1mlgLREeH
Maybe it won't be so bad after all?
DO IT
http://www.classification.gov.au/About/Pages/Contact-Us.aspx
I sent a letter to the classification board, reading this:
"To whom it may concern,
I am an adult living in Australia. As such, there is a R18+ classification for video games for games not suitable for children. However, according to your classification on 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2, A HOUSE DIVIDED', the game has been modified to fit into the R18+ rating. I am a working and paying man, and I do not see why R18+ games should be modified in the first place, there is a reason why it was given the R18+ rating. Here is a link for an interesting and relevant Youtube video I have found:
On top of this, games like GTA V have not been censored even smaller games (compared to GTA V) such as 'THE WALKING DEAD: SEASON 2 - EP 2' and 'State of Decay' are censored.
It seems like your mentality is that people will just copy what happens in games. Does everyone who plays GTA V become a Pimp? No. Does everyone who plays 'The Walking Dead: Season 1' want to chop someone's leg off, and eat them? No. We are adults, we know the difference between right and wrong. People who do extreme things because of video games most likely have mental issues anyway, and the general Australian public should not be punished like this for one or two outcasts."
Let's see what they reply with.
guys can we please keep this thread alive so that maybe someone from telltale will shed some light on the situation
Thanks for that, you are the hero we need, not the one we deserve.
I'm with you on this. Lets post our (polite and well written) concerns to the Australian Classification board about the difference between reality and fantasy, and the nature of censoring content that is already meant for adults only. Please add this to the title description. Show us your letters here forum, so we can share our various opinions about the topic with each other as well as the Australian Classification Board.
Maybe add some research data if that is available, or an article about it as well, such as this:
EG: http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/08/27/in-new-study-video-games-not-tied-to-violence-in-high-risk-youth/58934.html
What was modified in 400 days? I don't recall any sex or drug use in my Australian version. (It says on the AUS classification board that 400 days has sex and drug use for some strange reason) Anyone in america, please tell me if there would be any obvious differences that you can see.
Another main point, is that if someone does have mental issues and is indulging them instead of seeking help, censoring one game will not stop them. If they are already getting kicks out of violence, they aren't going to have any trouble resorting to piracy or just watching SAW over and over again instead, which is a title which you guys DID allow into Australia.
For real though!
A Left4Dead2 example video:
The Aussie steam store still sells the "low violence" version...
Not TF2 rubber duckies though, so not quite as bad.
Wait, so what happened with TWAU Ep. 2 for Austrailians? Did they censor it? Just curious.
no it was uncensored here our board are inconsistent all the time it is ridiculous
Wow, that's ridiculous. What is it in TWD SE2, Ep 2 that needs to be modified?! I feel pissed for you guys down there.
You got that right! This is so inconsistent!
most likely drugs cause our board thinks no one takes drugs in our country unless they play a game that has drug use seriously they need to get their heads out of their asses there are teens that do drugs here the government should focus on stopping that instead of as they like to call it protecting us seriously
I'm not Australian, but that was a great letter. The kind of letter that would make anyone with common sense look twice and reconsider that classification system.
it's funny bc there's no check on drug use.
I think it was because of nick or w/e his name was in Russel's story. How he demanded russel to rate a girls boob's and to get his 'beak wet'. As for drugs, I'm not really sure..
yea well what you don't know it that gta v was rated r just for drug use that is it even tho it had major violence and nudity it only says drug use on the box the board are inconsistent and misleading
The weed Eddie has Wyatt look for in the glove box.
that was in it I don't even think 400 days was censored at all so there is a chance this won't be either
I'm really hoping Telltale sheds some light on this themselves, this is a pretty serious issue affecting the content we receive, not to mention how much the content might be warped to be less enjoyable story.
And sexual assault as well. saints Row 4 got banned for both-
This
I was at E3 where i met a guy who was doing studies om how gaming aids developement of things like hand eye co-ordination, lateral thinking, problem solving ability etc.
Someone who's goes postal after playing Postal is a fucking nutbag who would've found an excuse.
The classification thing really sucks ass for you guys. Australia is an awesome place. You guys deserve to get your games when everyone else does. If it's games are downloaded straight from the developer over the internet or on steam or something they should be classification free.
I don't believe in classifications anyway. They're no substitute for good parenting.
heheh
I dare say you could still get it if you put the effort in they had internet access at Tahrir Square despit the Egyptian government, it should be pretty easy to by-pass the censors if you go hunting, but it'd mean playing a fucking pirate and TT wouldn't get paid
Plus you'd lose your save files
There are always ways around, through or over anything on the internet, it's the Last Free State but it means bootlegs and they suck ass because the developer shouldn't be punished for a stupid government ruling, and with a pirate TT wouldn't get paid.
Piracy damages the whole industry, and it sucks that stupid censorship laws encourage it. I'm virulently anti-piracy when it comes to games, but if someone told me I had to play a censored version of my favorite game or worse not play it all I'd maybe re-consider my position and it's not right or fair.
The whole problem I have with censorship is it's basically just someones opinion, and usually the opinions of hopelessly outdated people.
What offends a 64 year old woman probably isn't gonna offend me. It's forcing opinions down peoples throats.
I think it's only Australia that censors stuff now, am I right?
Not including North Korea obviously
I don't mean to be rude but the 60 year olds on the board are gonna die out soon or go into retirement and then the next generation that grew up at the start of the video game industry will take over and hopefully then we won't have to deal with this bullshit
This
Shows how pointless censors are
whispers
Proxy?
Does the AUS version have Wyatt looking for the OG in the glovebox?
Well put.
Bit harsh maybe, but well put
bump come on puzzlebox or any other staff from telltale please tell us what is going on all your aussie fans would rest better knowing
heavy rain in nz was reted R aswell
no Germany does too and so do alot of countries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games
not really reliable since it is wikipedia but i does show most of the stuff i think