Do ANY of you actually know what a plot hole is?
Plot hole: A gap or an illogical inconsistency in a story that creates a paradox that can't be fixed with any explanation. Example:
- The eagles in Lord Of The Rings that could have saved Frodo and Sam so much time and misery by just flying them to Mordor in the beginning of the first movie
The plot in this episode is about Clementine and her group being brought to Carver's camp and later trying to escape.
All of you claiming these so called plot holes in In Harm's Way really don't get it. Unless a character's backstory is relevant to the plot, it doesn't matter if it's brought up or not. Alvin killed George when he escaped Carver's community, and Carver retaliated by beating him to a pulp. What more do you want to know? How does Alvin's history with this George affect the story in any way?
And Nick and his Mom? Who cares? He already had his moment in All That Remains anyways, so why does it matter if it's brought up or not in this episode? It's a sad backstory but that's all it is. If Carver doesn't bring it up, then so what? It has nothing to do with the plot at all.
And the 400 Days characters? I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Excluding Bonnie, Clementine doesn't know these people and saw them as a threat, so it makes sense for her to not just walk up and talk to them about their lives. And even if she could, what did you expect them to say? How they got to Carver's place? We already know that. Or the people who played 400 Days do.
Seriously guys, if you're gonna call out the writers for making stupid mistakes and errors, at least know what you're talking about first.
- The eagles in Lord Of The Rings that could have saved Frodo and Sam so much time and misery by just flying them to Mordor in the beginning of the first movie
The plot in this episode is about Clementine and her group being brought to Carver's camp and later trying to escape.
All of you claiming these so called plot holes in In Harm's Way really don't get it. Unless a character's backstory is relevant to the plot, it doesn't matter if it's brought up or not. Alvin killed George when he escaped Carver's community, and Carver retaliated by beating him to a pulp. What more do you want to know? How does Alvin's history with this George affect the story in any way?
And Nick and his Mom? Who cares? He already had his moment in All That Remains anyways, so why does it matter if it's brought up or not in this episode? It's a sad backstory but that's all it is. If Carver doesn't bring it up, then so what? It has nothing to do with the plot at all.
And the 400 Days characters? I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Excluding Bonnie, Clementine doesn't know these people and saw them as a threat, so it makes sense for her to not just walk up and talk to them about their lives. And even if she could, what did you expect them to say? How they got to Carver's place? We already know that. Or the people who played 400 Days do.
Seriously guys, if you're gonna call out the writers for making stupid mistakes and errors, at least know what you're talking about first.
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Hehehe, can't wait for a fanboy to get the jump on me. Maybe one of those who wants the episodes releasing every two weeks just so he can complain about how rushed it feels. Gotta love fanbases.
But yeah, I feel ya. You probably might not want a fanboy getting to you. When they argue with you, they're so stubborn and intent that they're right. It's just not worth wasting your time arguing with them.
But seriously, thanks.
Also when is the next part of the 16 month fan-fiction release?
But I promise you won't be disappointed. I have no intention of stopping now.
I'm just letting everyone know how I feel. I couldn't care less if people like or not.
By the way, it's very nice to meet you.
You clearly didn't read my post, did you?
When Luke and Nick tells Clementine about what happened to Nick's mom? Are you sure about that? Are you SURE he said recently?
I understand, can't wait till the next chapter comes out :)
Don't worry, I'm not always this rebellious.
"Alvin killed George when he escaped Carver's community,"
When was this confirmed? I don't remember hearing anything like this in the episode. Was I supposed to get that initially?
Bonnie also said Carver wasn't always like this, yet I don't recall an explanation on what he was before and what changed him - welp, he's dead now, so it doesn't really matter.
Also, the river massacre and Pete's head shot were ignored. River Massacre for two episodes now and Pete for one, unless we assume it was Carver, but there's a problem: we have to assume what happens, and you should make it clear in your story. When I write my stories, the reader shouldn't have to assume what happens because there is no clear explanation unless it is used as a plot device. I may just be an amateur writer, but I think I wont care who shot Pete in the head all the way in Episode Five, because then I lost interest in finding out who did it. Swept under the rug.
"It's a sad backstory but that's all it is"
No, it's not: it's part of the universe, it's part of the world created. In the game, this isn't some typed up bio for Nick: this actually happened to him and those around him. It was an experience, but again, it wasn't explained to it's entirety: we know what happened to her, we know how it happened, but we don't know WHEN it happened. Did it happen before Carver's Community or after Luke's Escape? That is what is important: when it happened. Since that information wasn't clear, we have to ASSUME again! Assumptions are for theories and predictions, not in game experiences.
I hate it when things are not explained to their entirety when there are opportunities to do so.
IN HARM'S WAY had its strengths, but it also had its flaws, and as consumers we're entitled to comment on them. No matter how you want to justify it, the lazy use of most of the 400 DAYS characters was very disappointing in the context of the story. Whether or not they're "plot holes" is a whole other topic, but this kind of dismissive attitude doesn't help matters.
Why exactly is it SO important for us to know when Nick lost his mom? Her death adds relevance to his character but not to the overall story.