You're free to boycott the company but I just don't really see this as the first time a company's declined in quality (like this happened wi… moreth Bioware). Company's change and sequels are sometimes not good but it doesn't really mean you should make a call to arms.
Honestly I would boycott a company if they were doing something that crossed a line. Like seriously mistreating their workers or consumers. Like what happened with Sim City 4 or Diablo 3 where you had an always online-offline game would be pretty worthy of a boycott if you ask me.
I dunno, those are just my thoughts. It can feel like a letdown but this happens a lot.
If you are upset with that fact you can argue with someone to make a point of your opinion instead of writing a cheap comment.and FACT the community is at it's best right now , people are making argument until someone of a side wins.
Downhill, is being a little bit dramatic. Come on, i get it nick and sarah's death were both annoying, but i've read enough threads about it. Lets move on.
My god they didn't prove shit. To be honest, I have the feeling they are more compassionate than ever. Nick had no lines because of the miss… moreing hub areas in the third episode. In the fourth he died, and to be honest, I think that's a good choice. He was a weak character, weak of will. He would have never made it through the cold in episode 4.
Again, death is completely normal in a zombie apocalypse. Not every character can have a heart breaking hero moment before he dies, that'd be unrealistic.
Episode 4 was not bad enough to boycott the company, sheesh. While I admit they made a lot of strange/lazy/etc decisions, it was at least still entertaining.
Of you really want to actually make a difference try e mailing telltale. Or message Laura. Atleast then they will read it most likely, having it on here does 0 because Telltale doesn't really give a crap about us. (sadly)
Downhill, is being a little bit dramatic. Come on, i get it nick and sarah's death were both annoying, but i've read enough threads about it. Lets move on.
Its ok to be upset and complain but boycotting a game because you don't agree with deaths of TWO CHARACTERS!? That makes no sense. Well telltale has nothing to worry about because as soon as they come out with the next season you'll probably be the first one to buy a season pass. If not then do you honestly think 34 people boycotting is enough to effect telltale? What a joke.
You need to say that TTG really ruined everything here
Umm that's your opinion wehether you think season two is getting better or not. IMO I like this season as much as season one.
cmon it's his opinion
Yes, I do know it's his opinion. In not saying his opinions is wrong and that he is supposed to love season two. I'm saying that if he dislikes this season so much and didn't care for it, WHY would you keep playing it just so you can be disappointed again and complain even more? If you don't like something, just stop doing it. No one is forcing him to finish season two AND THEN boycott it. Just don't play it anymore so there won't be a need to complain anymore.
and for the record IGN gave it a 6 and episode 3 a 9.
PFT after ign did that, I'm not listening to their ratings. Yeah I know everyone has their opinions, but giving ep four a 6/10 and episode three a 9/10??! Oh come on, we all know that episode four wasn't THAT bad compared to episode three. IMO i think ep four was better then ep Three.
You need to say that TTG really ruined everything here and cmon it's his opinion and for the record IGN gave it a 6 and episode 3 a 9.
BTW So your response is invalid
Tell me how they "came around" regarding longer episodes? Every episode of both TWD and Wolf Among Us has gotten shorter since their respect… moreive episode 1's in the current season.
Did you just stand around and stare at the open sky to lengthen your play time, or something?
Episode 4 was not bad enough to boycott the company, sheesh. While I admit they made a lot of strange/lazy/etc decisions, it was at least still entertaining.
The stranger from the car? Seriously? That plot point made NO SENSE whatsoever. I did not steal his stuff and he was still mad at me. That m… moreade the whole finale absolutely worthless. What came after that was brillant, but that stranger stuff was outright stupid. My god what's wrong with Russians? I don't get it.
I meant that the writers really ruined episode 4 (should have paid more attention) the only reason I said they ruined is the development and the deaths.
I didn't even what boycott means XD and until I knew what it meant I would never ditch TTG. That guy wants to boycott good for him I wouldn't I just liked this episode I didn't hated as a whole.
The only things I hated was Nick's death Sarah's death , Jane disappearing , Luke's motivation and reaction towards Nick.Other than that Hubs , interaction and development
I don't know about you I just take IGN's reviews seriously.
You need to say that TTG really ruined everything here
Umm that's your opinion wehether you think season two is getting better or no… moret. IMO I like this season as much as season one.
cmon it's his opinion
Yes, I do know it's his opinion. In not saying his opinions is wrong and that he is supposed to love season two. I'm saying that if he dislikes this season so much and didn't care for it, WHY would you keep playing it just so you can be disappointed again and complain even more? If you don't like something, just stop doing it. No one is forcing him to finish season two AND THEN boycott it. Just don't play it anymore so there won't be a need to complain anymore.
and for the record IGN gave it a 6 and episode 3 a 9.
PFT after ign did that, I'm not listening to their ratings. Yeah I know everyone has their opinions, but giving ep four a 6/10 and episode three a 9/10??! Oh come on, we all know that episode fo… [view original content]
You need to say that TTG really ruined everything here
Umm that's your opinion wehether you think season two is getting better or no… moret. IMO I like this season as much as season one.
cmon it's his opinion
Yes, I do know it's his opinion. In not saying his opinions is wrong and that he is supposed to love season two. I'm saying that if he dislikes this season so much and didn't care for it, WHY would you keep playing it just so you can be disappointed again and complain even more? If you don't like something, just stop doing it. No one is forcing him to finish season two AND THEN boycott it. Just don't play it anymore so there won't be a need to complain anymore.
and for the record IGN gave it a 6 and episode 3 a 9.
PFT after ign did that, I'm not listening to their ratings. Yeah I know everyone has their opinions, but giving ep four a 6/10 and episode three a 9/10??! Oh come on, we all know that episode fo… [view original content]
I meant that the writers really ruined episode 4 (should have paid more attention) the only reason I said they ruined is the development and the deaths
Come on dude. No need to get childish with stupid little insults like that. Just keep this discussion civil, okay?
And I was talking about episode 4 and season 2 in general. "wehether you think season two is getting better or not" In order for a season 2 get worse, the episodes in the season have to be getting worse. So by me saying that I meant if they thought the episodes(episode 4) was getting worse/ making season 2 lack in quality.
I don't know about you I just take IGN's reviews seriously
Haha, ooohhkkaay. Fine by me. Take whatever you want seriously, I'm not gonna stop you. But just l think its unbelievable how they gave episode 3 a 9/10 and episode 4 a 6/10. That's like... Did they play the right episode or....?
I meant that the writers really ruined episode 4 (should have paid more attention) the only reason I said they ruined is the development and… more the deaths.
I didn't even what boycott means XD and until I knew what it meant I would never ditch TTG. That guy wants to boycott good for him I wouldn't I just liked this episode I didn't hated as a whole.
The only things I hated was Nick's death Sarah's death , Jane disappearing , Luke's motivation and reaction towards Nick.Other than that Hubs , interaction and development
I don't know about you I just take IGN's reviews seriously.
I meant that the writers really ruined episode 4 (should have paid more attention) the only reason I said they ruined is the development and… more the deaths
Come on dude. No need to get childish with stupid little insults like that. Just keep this discussion civil, okay?
And I was talking about episode 4 and season 2 in general. "wehether you think season two is getting better or not" In order for a season 2 get worse, the episodes in the season have to be getting worse. So by me saying that I meant if they thought the episodes(episode 4) was getting worse/ making season 2 lack in quality.
I don't know about you I just take IGN's reviews seriously
Haha, ooohhkkaay. Fine by me. Take whatever you want seriously, I'm not gonna stop you. But just l think its unbelievable how they gave episode 3 a 9/10 and episode 4 a 6/10. That's like... Did they play the right episode or....?
TellTale sells you individual episodes, at $5 a piece. All these complaints are getting ridiculous. It's a story-game. It's their story, with you getting a little bit of interaction in between. Am I upset that saving Nick did nothing? Sure. But the constant hate and "I'm going to boycott TellTale!!!!" is ridiculous. It's a $20 game if you got the Season Pass, $25 without. That's a great deal for what you actually get in these episodes. Quit complaining about the things like that.
Wait.I wasn't insulting I would never insult someone to prove a point.
(should have paid more attention)
I was talking about m… moreyself.
Episode 3 deserve a 9.Alas episode 4 deserve a 6.The only reason it got a 6 because of the cheap deaths and unconvincing motivations.
TellTale sells you individual episodes, at $5 a piece. All these complaints are getting ridiculous. It's a story-game. It's their story, wit… moreh you getting a little bit of interaction in between. Am I upset that saving Nick did nothing? Sure. But the constant hate and "I'm going to boycott TellTale!!!!" is ridiculous. It's a $20 game if you got the Season Pass, $25 without. That's a great deal for what you actually get in these episodes. Quit complaining about the things like that.
Considering there are other determinant deaths such as Alvin, and Nick does get more lines after you save him already prove your point wrong… more. Telltale do care, they are just being overworked due to working on four projects at the same time. Well three now.
I heard Telltale made allot of changes to Season 2, can anyone confirm this? Because if so, I think they could tell us what the original plot was going to be, it might have gone better if they used all the same writers that made Season 1 a grand game.
I was reading articles the other day about death threats being sent to developers. I know people haven't done that here and that people wouldn't stoop that low (I hope), but one of the complaints, barring the death threats, stuck out in my mind:
A developer stated that they'd released a patch which reduced, as an example (probably not accurate), the reload rate of a gun by 0.1 seconds. And the people hadn't even tried it before complaining, nor, I believe, did they know what the change was actually going to be (meaning how much, math wise, the gun was going to be affected). Yet it broke the game apparently.
It's enough to make one sad to be a human or gamer, sometimes. And I remember pointing out that people weren't asking for hubs, they wanted to know the characters better (likely through interaction). I got downvoted for that, simply because I and others rightfully pointed out that having hubs wouldn't magically fix anything. Not that i care about the downvotes anyway, but it serves to show how some people are.
Also, as I've said countless times before, these complaints will not go away. Why? Because Telltale cannot win. (And for the record, while I enjoyed the episode as I normally do, this is not speaking about episode 4 in general, but rather . . . regardless of what they do, they will get complaints)
PS: I'm actually beginning to think, and I don't mean people here (for the most part anyway), that what we get to see on the forums of whatever game we play, are people who are not . . . well-adjusted in real life. Putting it mildly, and that the majority of people actually like the products. They're just silent or get drowned out. I can point to a few examples to show why I think this, as much of this isn't really normal behaviour.
I'm sorry, but it's fucking annoying.
"BOYCOTT"
"FUCK TELLTALE"
"I HATE THIS SHIT"
"NOT BUYING"
And half of these have no exp… morelanation and are just there to be there. You can boycott and all, but we really don't need to know.
Oh and I'm waiting for the downvote fairy blase
In my opinion, I think we're really seeing what's happening in Season 2 the same way we saw what happened with Dragon Age 2. People loved Origins; a game that really did conform to your choices (more or less). Dragon Age 2 was much less tailored to your decisions, but that's only because the story needs to be moved to a certain point, regardless of any other things. If you TRULY let the player do whatever they'd want, the possible branches of decisions would reach a level of contrast that it would be physically impossible to contain all paths within a single game.
Hey, at least they didn't just Retcon everything in the end, like with The Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall. There, ALL the endings were Canon (except the one that ended with everyone dying, of course).
And that's what he means to do by saying "boycott" and constructive criticism is a good thing. By letting TellTale knowing what they have done wrong and help them improve.
That's how I feel exactly. In season one within each chapter it felt like you could move around explore and get to know each character more where as in the new season it seems like each scenario is just a huge rush and you have to finish each deed right then and there.
Well,If I was the TellTale owner(or whatever) I would focus more on the walking dead.Why?Its their most sucessfull game..The game that gave them reputation..and money.Just my thought.
Considering there are other determinant deaths such as Alvin, and Nick does get more lines after you save him already prove your point wrong… more. Telltale do care, they are just being overworked due to working on four projects at the same time. Well three now.
And comments like this are STUPID. IF you dont like how a serious is going you should SPEAK UP and not SHUT UP. Tell everyone why you dont like it, the same way you should tell them why you like it.
Death threats over something so trivial just shows how pathetic some people are,I'm sure that's just got to be a small group of people who complained about the reload rate of a gun,also I agree really we don't need a lot of hubs, (still some more would be nice,like what they done with episode 4) just get us to know a bit more about other characters backstories and such,what hapoened to Mike's face and ear for example. (I mean it is obvious he was shot but how.)
I was reading articles the other day about death threats being sent to developers. I know people haven't done that here and that people woul… moredn't stoop that low (I hope), but one of the complaints, barring the death threats, stuck out in my mind:
A developer stated that they'd released a patch which reduced, as an example (probably not accurate), the reload rate of a gun by 0.1 seconds. And the people hadn't even tried it before complaining, nor, I believe, did they know what the change was actually going to be (meaning how much, math wise, the gun was going to be affected). Yet it broke the game apparently.
It's enough to make one sad to be a human or gamer, sometimes. And I remember pointing out that people weren't asking for hubs, they wanted to know the characters better (likely through interaction). I got downvoted for that, simply because I and others rightfully pointed out that having hubs wouldn't magically fix anything. Not that… [view original content]
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Sim City 4 wasn't always online. The Sim City you're talking about is much more recent.
Real nice of you there friend.
If you are upset with that fact you can argue with someone to make a point of your opinion instead of writing a cheap comment.and FACT the community is at it's best right now , people are making argument until someone of a side wins.
Your comment is invalid
I love season 2 and even though it has it's flaws I am still in love with it, In fact episode 4 was my favorite episode of the season.
Downhill, is being a little bit dramatic. Come on, i get it nick and sarah's death were both annoying, but i've read enough threads about it. Lets move on.
Agreed season 2 is good but does has it flaws like less Character development and detergent people need to be more to the story
You don't know that
Episode 4 was not bad enough to boycott the company, sheesh. While I admit they made a lot of strange/lazy/etc decisions, it was at least still entertaining.
^'this is the bitter truth,
Of you really want to actually make a difference try e mailing telltale. Or message Laura. Atleast then they will read it most likely, having it on here does 0 because Telltale doesn't really give a crap about us. (sadly)
Its ok to be upset and complain but boycotting a game because you don't agree with deaths of TWO CHARACTERS!? That makes no sense. Well telltale has nothing to worry about because as soon as they come out with the next season you'll probably be the first one to buy a season pass. If not then do you honestly think 34 people boycotting is enough to effect telltale? What a joke.
Umm that's your opinion wehether you think season two is getting better or not. IMO I like this season as much as season one.
Yes, I do know it's his opinion. In not saying his opinions is wrong and that he is supposed to love season two. I'm saying that if he dislikes this season so much and didn't care for it, WHY would you keep playing it just so you can be disappointed again and complain even more? If you don't like something, just stop doing it. No one is forcing him to finish season two AND THEN boycott it. Just don't play it anymore so there won't be a need to complain anymore.
PFT after ign did that, I'm not listening to their ratings. Yeah I know everyone has their opinions, but giving ep four a 6/10 and episode three a 9/10??! Oh come on, we all know that episode four wasn't THAT bad compared to episode three. IMO i think ep four was better then ep Three.
Do you rush everything in a beautiful game just for being able to rage randomly?
Episode 4 was not bad enough to boycott the company, sheesh. While I admit they made a lot of strange/lazy/etc decisions, it was at least still entertaining.
Even if the episode was terrible, which i don't think it was. Our lives aren't over. This is a video game, for entertainment.
That isn't just why he comes Lee though
I meant that the writers really ruined episode 4 (should have paid more attention) the only reason I said they ruined is the development and the deaths.
I didn't even what boycott means XD and until I knew what it meant I would never ditch TTG. That guy wants to boycott good for him I wouldn't I just liked this episode I didn't hated as a whole.
The only things I hated was Nick's death Sarah's death , Jane disappearing , Luke's motivation and reaction towards Nick.Other than that Hubs , interaction and development
I don't know about you I just take IGN's reviews seriously.
Well put.
Come on dude. No need to get childish with stupid little insults like that. Just keep this discussion civil, okay?
And I was talking about episode 4 and season 2 in general. "wehether you think season two is getting better or not" In order for a season 2 get worse, the episodes in the season have to be getting worse. So by me saying that I meant if they thought the episodes(episode 4) was getting worse/ making season 2 lack in quality.
Haha, ooohhkkaay. Fine by me. Take whatever you want seriously, I'm not gonna stop you. But just l think its unbelievable how they gave episode 3 a 9/10 and episode 4 a 6/10. That's like... Did they play the right episode or....?
Wait.I wasn't insulting I would never insult someone to prove a point.
I was talking about myself.
Episode 3 deserve a 9.Alas episode 4 deserve a 6.The only reason it got a 6 because of the cheap deaths and unconvincing motivations.
Since the overall gameplay is missing 3 or so hours compared to season 1 the least TTG could do is drop the price.
TellTale sells you individual episodes, at $5 a piece. All these complaints are getting ridiculous. It's a story-game. It's their story, with you getting a little bit of interaction in between. Am I upset that saving Nick did nothing? Sure. But the constant hate and "I'm going to boycott TellTale!!!!" is ridiculous. It's a $20 game if you got the Season Pass, $25 without. That's a great deal for what you actually get in these episodes. Quit complaining about the things like that.
ahh ok ok. Yeah i was kinda confused myself, you're cool, I didn't think you would insult me. Sorry for thinking that, though.
Bro season 1 was a $20 game. Season 2 is at best a $9.99 special.
You're right. Thanks for the correction. Didn't Diablo 3 have the same thing where you had to always be connected to play? e_e
So then you WANT telltale to reduce characters to nothing more than a meat shield?
Take my like, i agree with this thread.
I think they should've focused mostly on the games they were finishing so that they wouldn't get so much pressure.
I heard Telltale made allot of changes to Season 2, can anyone confirm this? Because if so, I think they could tell us what the original plot was going to be, it might have gone better if they used all the same writers that made Season 1 a grand game.
I was reading articles the other day about death threats being sent to developers. I know people haven't done that here and that people wouldn't stoop that low (I hope), but one of the complaints, barring the death threats, stuck out in my mind:
A developer stated that they'd released a patch which reduced, as an example (probably not accurate), the reload rate of a gun by 0.1 seconds. And the people hadn't even tried it before complaining, nor, I believe, did they know what the change was actually going to be (meaning how much, math wise, the gun was going to be affected). Yet it broke the game apparently.
It's enough to make one sad to be a human or gamer, sometimes. And I remember pointing out that people weren't asking for hubs, they wanted to know the characters better (likely through interaction). I got downvoted for that, simply because I and others rightfully pointed out that having hubs wouldn't magically fix anything. Not that i care about the downvotes anyway, but it serves to show how some people are.
Also, as I've said countless times before, these complaints will not go away. Why? Because Telltale cannot win. (And for the record, while I enjoyed the episode as I normally do, this is not speaking about episode 4 in general, but rather . . . regardless of what they do, they will get complaints)
PS: I'm actually beginning to think, and I don't mean people here (for the most part anyway), that what we get to see on the forums of whatever game we play, are people who are not . . . well-adjusted in real life. Putting it mildly, and that the majority of people actually like the products. They're just silent or get drowned out. I can point to a few examples to show why I think this, as much of this isn't really normal behaviour.
In my opinion, I think we're really seeing what's happening in Season 2 the same way we saw what happened with Dragon Age 2. People loved Origins; a game that really did conform to your choices (more or less). Dragon Age 2 was much less tailored to your decisions, but that's only because the story needs to be moved to a certain point, regardless of any other things. If you TRULY let the player do whatever they'd want, the possible branches of decisions would reach a level of contrast that it would be physically impossible to contain all paths within a single game.
Hey, at least they didn't just Retcon everything in the end, like with The Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall. There, ALL the endings were Canon (except the one that ended with everyone dying, of course).
And that's what he means to do by saying "boycott" and constructive criticism is a good thing. By letting TellTale knowing what they have done wrong and help them improve.
That's how I feel exactly. In season one within each chapter it felt like you could move around explore and get to know each character more where as in the new season it seems like each scenario is just a huge rush and you have to finish each deed right then and there.
I already took borderlands and game of thrones off my list of games i'm looking forward to. now i don't have any games to look forward to.
Neither do I.
(-.-)
Well,If I was the TellTale owner(or whatever) I would focus more on the walking dead.Why?Its their most sucessfull game..The game that gave them reputation..and money.Just my thought.
And comments like this are STUPID. IF you dont like how a serious is going you should SPEAK UP and not SHUT UP. Tell everyone why you dont like it, the same way you should tell them why you like it.
I'll give these two a chance only cuz I'm sure the writers won't be the same as the ones here. (or god i hope not anyway)
I highly doubt season 2 is less than a call of duty world at war map pack
Death threats over something so trivial just shows how pathetic some people are,I'm sure that's just got to be a small group of people who complained about the reload rate of a gun,also I agree really we don't need a lot of hubs, (still some more would be nice,like what they done with episode 4) just get us to know a bit more about other characters backstories and such,what hapoened to Mike's face and ear for example. (I mean it is obvious he was shot but how.)