I'm one of those people who just can't bear to play through a game twice. Sure, I love this game to death, in fact it's my favourite of any game I've EVER played in ANY category/genre, but I just refuse to play it again unless I know for sure I'll be in for a treat
Honestly though, MI2 basically inspired half of what I've become in someway or another. It's weird thinking of it like that, but it's really a big aspect of what I came to be.
Even though I've already posted here, I STILL would love a MI2 Special Edition, BUT, looking at MI1 SE, LucasArts need to do certain things to make sure this isn't a cock up! Mainly, bring in Michael Land for the music, as TOMI has shown he's still got the style and skills and comparing it to the SOMI SE soundtrack, it's good, but it somehow doesn't feel right? Second, BETTER ART DIRECTION, Bring in Steve Purcell, Bill Tiller, Ryan Jones, anyone who's better than the people who worked on SOMI SE! I'd love to see how Purcell would redo the areas he worked on in the past, I'd also love to see Tiller do a Cursed style version of the areas as well as Ryan Jones for his take as he's shown with the concept art for Tales, he's pretty awesome!
It's not that I'm a cheap bastard, but it all depends on how much will LA charge for it.
A plus factor would be taking into account all the criticism about SOMI:SE (if LA needs someone to kill Guybrush's stylist: I volunteer)
LucasArts need to do certain things to make sure this isn't a cock up!
And I wouldn't rule that out... I mean, MI1SE sold EXTREMELY well, and I'm pretty sure that LucasArts didn't expect that to happen. That's why the whole thing seems rushed in several areas (since it was only an experiment... which proved very successful). So, if they aren't trying to make a quick buck here, they might put more resources into another SE.
The same way they remade Secret - I'd say no.
But if they decide to further improve their remakes, then why not? A nicely done remake of the originally great story is just a plus to me.
No, I was talking about SMI: SE. MI2 does have great music, my favs being Largo's theme and the one when you dive for the Monkey head with Capsize (the tune's also present in Tales when you dive from De Cava's ship to the manatees, thou it is too synthed and cut there).
No, I was talking about SMI: SE. MI2 does have great music, my favs being Largo's theme and the one when you dive for the Monkey head with Capsize (the tune's also present in Tales when you dive from De Cava's ship to the manatees, thou it is too synthed and cut there).
I loved MI:2 the way is was but as my only copy of the game is on a floppy disk with the spinny voodoo mix code thang - i can't play it anymore so I would love for them to re-do the game just so I can actually play it once again as it is my fav in the series
I loved MI:2 the way is was but as my only copy of the game is on a floppy disk with the spinny voodoo mix code thang - i can't play it anymore so I would love for them to re-do the game just so I can actually play it once again as it is my fav in the series
In the meantime, you could just use scummvm, which lets you bypass the copy protection with any 4 numbers.
I had floppy disks of MI 1 & 2 (the large, bendable variety for the first game!), Indy 3 & 4 and DoTT. I was so glad when I got Sam & Max in the LucasArts Archives edition, with CD-versions of Indy and DoTT. My first experience with voices! Now I have these games on my hard drive. I kinda miss the copy protection of old, though. I don't know, it could be cumbersome at times but it felt kinda special as well, like the first puzzle of the games only solvable by people who bought the genuine article? It added some flavor, as well.
I've just replayed the game again, and, to tell you the truth, I really wouldn't see a remake of it. At least, not the same kind as Secret. For mainly the following reasons:
1) Revenge is a very morbid game in all, seeing it released right after we get something like Tales isn't very fan-gaining, if you see what I mean.
2) It should especially not be compared to Secret, as Secret was the first installment and memorable by its unique ambiance. MI2, on the other hand, is a turning point that rotated whatever he had before towards the current flow of the series.
3) Let's leave old games alone for a change. Everybody wants to re-release, re-re-reedition, etc. etc. We are forgetting how good they really were back then, and it aches us in the butt for being so quality-hungry.
I should also add that I'm not saying it's impossible/not worth it. I'm just afraid whatever didn't kill SMI in SE would surely kill LCR. And then we'll get more angry PC fans and more players arguing about whether it's a good thing they can play it on Xbox now (yaaay!)
...that and bothering Boen from going into retirement once again.
I think about a Special Edition of MI2 nearly every day.
We will probably get it, and I think the improvement would be great. Think about a new fresh rendering of those dark tones...
1) Revenge is a very morbid game in all, seeing it released right after we get something like Tales isn't very fan-gaining, if you see what I mean.
Many people have complained about Tales being too much child-oriented happy-happy-joy-joy atmosphere in ch. 1 and 2 at least and in the graphic designs. In fact it would be very fan-gaining as people who liked the series back in 91 would love to play a remake, people who liked MISE would love to play a remake, and most people, who liked Tales would like yet another MI release and even those who didnt like the new Tales but enjoyed the morbid MI 2 would definitely want to get their hands on MI2SE.
2) It should especially not be compared to Secret, as Secret was the first installment and memorable by its unique ambiance. MI2, on the other hand, is a turning point that rotated whatever he had before towards the current flow of the series.
They made a Special Edition of SoMI mainly to point out the graphic improvements in the SE and to do the voice acting. MI2 is now the only MI game with similar graphics to SoMI and it doesnt have voice acting, so it definitely SHOULD be compared to SoMI. (btw the current flow of Monkey Island series is now far from the direction MI2 once pointed.)
The Special Editions stuff should, however end in MI2. Then all the games would have voice acting.
The Special Editions stuff should, however end in MI2. Then all the games would have voice acting.
Maniac Mansion (although it's been remade by fans so many times now, it's hardly necessary), Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, and last and more importantly, Fate of Atlantis. But obviously it's not that big of a deal, since Fate of Atlantis already have voice-acting so it would only be about the graphics - well apart from updated music. Although I'm sure they'd update the voice acting as well.
Maniac Mansion (although it's been remade by fans so many times now, it's hardly necessary), Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, and last and more importantly, Fate of Atlantis. But obviously it's not that big of a deal, since Fate of Atlantis already have voice-acting so it would only be about the graphics - well apart from updated music. Although I'm sure they'd update the voice acting as well.
I meant that no more special editions to the Monkey Island series
I honestly feel that taking away my lovely pixels might ruin the feel of the game. Trust me, I've tried painting on some of the backgrounds with photoshop, and (not to brag) I have to say that I have quite the grasp over painting high-def images with a tablet. But it just didn't seem right. The whole feeling... just went away.
The same way, I'm not really sure if voices will help all that much.
But that's just me.
I honestly feel that taking away my lovely pixels might ruin the feel of the game. Trust me, I've tried painting on some of the backgrounds with photoshop, and (not to brag) I have to say that I have quite the grasp over painting high-def images with a tablet. But it just didn't seem right. The whole feeling... just went away.
The same way, I'm not really sure if voices will help all that much.
But that's just me.
Well if it's like the first one it'll have both versions anyway so everyone (in theory!) is happy.
My main concern is in the design of Guybrush. I got USED to the SE 'brush but I still don't LIKE it.
Many people have complained about Tales being too much child-oriented happy-happy-joy-joy atmosphere in ch. 1 and 2 at least and in the graphic designs. In fact it would be very fan-gaining as people who liked the series back in 91 would love to play a remake, people who liked MISE would love to play a remake, and most people, who liked Tales would like yet another MI release and even those who didnt like the new Tales but enjoyed the morbid MI 2 would definitely want to get their hands on MI2SE.
It's not just the graphics I was talking about. Just switching them and adding voice is not an issue. I was talking about the whole game atmosphere, the many jokes (which in Tales are, btw, far less childish compared to what you said) that have neither consistency with Secret, Curse, or other installments. And of course, the ending.
I for starters wouldn't want it to hit the shelves again as a remake because I didn't like what they did to SMI in first place. There were pros, but to my opinion the remake was a fail nevertheless. Seeing this in MI2 would simply disgust me.
They made a Special Edition of SoMI mainly to point out the graphic improvements in the SE and to do the voice acting. MI2 is now the only MI game with similar graphics to SoMI and it doesnt have voice acting, so it definitely SHOULD be compared to SoMI. (btw the current flow of Monkey Island series is now far from the direction MI2 once pointed.)
You're saying it like if character voicing and de-pixelation is all you care about in a game. Think about many jokes that wouldn't pass the same once they're voiced. There's plenty of them in MI2, and voicing them could even worsen the jokes. Of course this is not robot voicing hacks like the one you find on youtube, but why people just can't leave the voicing alone for some games, I really don't get that.
The basic point I was making when I said they shouldn't remake LCR is the way I feel about that game. It's not like "this is mine, I played it as a kid and I don't want to see it ruined", it's more like "MI2 is not SMI, and if you do this, there might be a potential risk of getting some commercial failure instead". Plus I follow LA's thought, they released SE for anything but complaining fans. So it would surprise me to see them release SE of MI2 (even if not in the same style) just for that.
the many jokes (which in Tales are, btw, far less childish compared to what you said)
Ive never said that the JOKES were childish in Tales. Ive said that the game looks childish at times, and that the atmosphere and backgrounds are a bit too kids` style for my taste. In fact I think that the jokes in Tales (which sometimes contain strong sexual references) are in a big contrast to how the game looks.
And Im sure that the jokes wouldnt be ruined in the way presented it. I dont want to see a bad remake either, but Im sure that LA still is able to do justice to MI games (if not by making a whole new MI game, then at least to MI2SE.)
But I see the hitch behind re-releasing SMI for LA: console market. Whoever played the second game - played the first. But if they couldn't play the first game, why would they play the second?
lol. Seriously, though. I'd love to see/play Lechuck's revenge. Please, lucasarts!!! Make it?!?!?!?! PLEASE?!!?!?!?!?!?!!1!?!!?1!?1!?1
People who can't play unvoiced video games with a smaller color spectrum and lower resolution remind me of people who can't watch older, foreign films.
i loved MI2, i think this would be a great idea.. redoing, MI2 will enable it to be more enjoyable for the younger ages, like my 7 year old daughter, rather then reading everything, kids enjoy different types of character voices telling them what to do rather then a box of text.. i would love to see this game redone, it would enable me to enjoy it again, along with my children, and they can see what kinda games we had growing up.. btw, for those who want to keep the classic, classic, thats why they made it so you can switch between styles in the last game, if you don't like the new style don't play it. but i loved it.
But why would you essentially want a remake? Because the original is 256 colors and unvoiced? Just for that?
Yeah! I guess those are the reasons. What more reasons should there be? Change the whole plot? I dont want that.
In the first place I wouldnt have wanted any Special Editions at all. The best situation might be that the games should have been left the way they were. Personally I still enjoy playing the original SoMI and LCR versions.
I thought that the SoMI SE was a bad idea, but after it was made, I thought it was cool. If there will not be an SE of MI2 it feels like it has somehow been left out. It has similar graphics to the original SoMI, and it has no voice acting nor graphics enhancements, so if LA doesnt make a MI2SE the LCR feels kind of abandoned.
It has similar graphics to the original SoMI, and it has no voice acting nor graphics enhancements, so if LA doesnt make a MI2SE the LCR feels kind of abandoned.
Well, for starters its graphics are way better. I'm sure you say that because we live in an age where everything that is not in 3D gets frowned upon.
Really, if you compare the first and the second games, you can notice the difference. It's not enormous but it's there. And if can no doubt be redrawn, but my question is so put because I didn't see much point in remaking the first game either. Plus it didn't meet my expectations.
Adding voices to the old graphics is the best solution for those who whine about forcing their eyes every time they read multicolor text. But adding them would kill the graphics themselves, as it may not be voiced as was expected by the fans in certain or any places in the game.
Therefore yes, updating both the visual and the audio on MI2 is a possibility. But is it worth doing for LA? What is the demand? What is the after-reaction for those who regurgitated upon seeing SE? I'm thinking that if we should discuss it, then as an opportunity in all its seriousness rather than mere utopian beliefs.
If anything, I would want a remake of the game so that it would be more accessible to people. A re-release would be fine in my books for the same reason.
The important thing is to leave MI3 as it is, because it's perfect
The same goes for SMI and LCR in my honest opinion...
Plus, the artwork for CMI would actually translate better to a higher resolution and more colors. I'd love for them to brush this game up to high res and less compressed cut scenes, as long as they kept with the original artwork and voices. They did the same with the Broken Sword releases for Wii and DS, and I absolutely love those!
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I'm one of those people who just can't bear to play through a game twice. Sure, I love this game to death, in fact it's my favourite of any game I've EVER played in ANY category/genre, but I just refuse to play it again unless I know for sure I'll be in for a treat
Honestly though, MI2 basically inspired half of what I've become in someway or another. It's weird thinking of it like that, but it's really a big aspect of what I came to be.
A plus factor would be taking into account all the criticism about SOMI:SE (if LA needs someone to kill Guybrush's stylist: I volunteer)
But if they decide to further improve their remakes, then why not? A nicely done remake of the originally great story is just a plus to me.
It's the same thing in Tales too, btw.
My favorite of them all is Tales. That one has so many great tracks. My favorites are DeCava's "fast" theme, the one at the end when Guybrush
Er, what? MI2 has tons of music. Enough to fill 2 CDs.
http://soundtracks.mixnmojo.com/
Ah, ok. Scared me a bit there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M92Af7HUzok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heYO9byzfGg
I don't think I could play the whole game like this, but it is neat to see or hear.
()_()
If you tell me this was voiced by Steven Hawking, I'd believe you.
hahahaha.:D:D:D
In the meantime, you could just use scummvm, which lets you bypass the copy protection with any 4 numbers.
1) Revenge is a very morbid game in all, seeing it released right after we get something like Tales isn't very fan-gaining, if you see what I mean.
2) It should especially not be compared to Secret, as Secret was the first installment and memorable by its unique ambiance. MI2, on the other hand, is a turning point that rotated whatever he had before towards the current flow of the series.
3) Let's leave old games alone for a change. Everybody wants to re-release, re-re-reedition, etc. etc. We are forgetting how good they really were back then, and it aches us in the butt for being so quality-hungry.
I should also add that I'm not saying it's impossible/not worth it. I'm just afraid whatever didn't kill SMI in SE would surely kill LCR. And then we'll get more angry PC fans and more players arguing about whether it's a good thing they can play it on Xbox now (yaaay!)
...that and bothering Boen from going into retirement once again.
We will probably get it, and I think the improvement would be great. Think about a new fresh rendering of those dark tones...
Many people have complained about Tales being too much child-oriented happy-happy-joy-joy atmosphere in ch. 1 and 2 at least and in the graphic designs. In fact it would be very fan-gaining as people who liked the series back in 91 would love to play a remake, people who liked MISE would love to play a remake, and most people, who liked Tales would like yet another MI release and even those who didnt like the new Tales but enjoyed the morbid MI 2 would definitely want to get their hands on MI2SE.
They made a Special Edition of SoMI mainly to point out the graphic improvements in the SE and to do the voice acting. MI2 is now the only MI game with similar graphics to SoMI and it doesnt have voice acting, so it definitely SHOULD be compared to SoMI. (btw the current flow of Monkey Island series is now far from the direction MI2 once pointed.)
The Special Editions stuff should, however end in MI2. Then all the games would have voice acting.
Maniac Mansion (although it's been remade by fans so many times now, it's hardly necessary), Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, and last and more importantly, Fate of Atlantis. But obviously it's not that big of a deal, since Fate of Atlantis already have voice-acting so it would only be about the graphics - well apart from updated music. Although I'm sure they'd update the voice acting as well.
The same way, I'm not really sure if voices will help all that much.
But that's just me.
Well if it's like the first one it'll have both versions anyway so everyone (in theory!) is happy.
My main concern is in the design of Guybrush. I got USED to the SE 'brush but I still don't LIKE it.
I for starters wouldn't want it to hit the shelves again as a remake because I didn't like what they did to SMI in first place. There were pros, but to my opinion the remake was a fail nevertheless. Seeing this in MI2 would simply disgust me.
You're saying it like if character voicing and de-pixelation is all you care about in a game. Think about many jokes that wouldn't pass the same once they're voiced. There's plenty of them in MI2, and voicing them could even worsen the jokes. Of course this is not robot voicing hacks like the one you find on youtube, but why people just can't leave the voicing alone for some games, I really don't get that.
The basic point I was making when I said they shouldn't remake LCR is the way I feel about that game. It's not like "this is mine, I played it as a kid and I don't want to see it ruined", it's more like "MI2 is not SMI, and if you do this, there might be a potential risk of getting some commercial failure instead". Plus I follow LA's thought, they released SE for anything but complaining fans. So it would surprise me to see them release SE of MI2 (even if not in the same style) just for that.
Ive never said that the JOKES were childish in Tales. Ive said that the game looks childish at times, and that the atmosphere and backgrounds are a bit too kids` style for my taste. In fact I think that the jokes in Tales (which sometimes contain strong sexual references) are in a big contrast to how the game looks.
And Im sure that the jokes wouldnt be ruined in the way presented it. I dont want to see a bad remake either, but Im sure that LA still is able to do justice to MI games (if not by making a whole new MI game, then at least to MI2SE.)
You could say the same about SOMI.
That's what I did.
But I see the hitch behind re-releasing SMI for LA: console market. Whoever played the second game - played the first. But if they couldn't play the first game, why would they play the second?
...Yes, that's a bad thing. Shame on you.
Yeah! I guess those are the reasons. What more reasons should there be? Change the whole plot? I dont want that.
In the first place I wouldnt have wanted any Special Editions at all. The best situation might be that the games should have been left the way they were. Personally I still enjoy playing the original SoMI and LCR versions.
I thought that the SoMI SE was a bad idea, but after it was made, I thought it was cool. If there will not be an SE of MI2 it feels like it has somehow been left out. It has similar graphics to the original SoMI, and it has no voice acting nor graphics enhancements, so if LA doesnt make a MI2SE the LCR feels kind of abandoned.
Well, for starters its graphics are way better. I'm sure you say that because we live in an age where everything that is not in 3D gets frowned upon.
Really, if you compare the first and the second games, you can notice the difference. It's not enormous but it's there. And if can no doubt be redrawn, but my question is so put because I didn't see much point in remaking the first game either. Plus it didn't meet my expectations.
Adding voices to the old graphics is the best solution for those who whine about forcing their eyes every time they read multicolor text. But adding them would kill the graphics themselves, as it may not be voiced as was expected by the fans in certain or any places in the game.
Therefore yes, updating both the visual and the audio on MI2 is a possibility. But is it worth doing for LA? What is the demand? What is the after-reaction for those who regurgitated upon seeing SE? I'm thinking that if we should discuss it, then as an opportunity in all its seriousness rather than mere utopian beliefs.
The same goes for SMI and LCR in my honest opinion...
Plus, the artwork for CMI would actually translate better to a higher resolution and more colors. I'd love for them to brush this game up to high res and less compressed cut scenes, as long as they kept with the original artwork and voices. They did the same with the Broken Sword releases for Wii and DS, and I absolutely love those!