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point 'n klick control

SpalterSpalter
edited August 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
I just started playing and so far I like the humour, the style, the voice acting, the music (o sweet music) etc.

But there is one thing:

Why oh why can't we have the point 'n klick control like you did for Sam & Max?
Isn't there anything you can do to bring it back?
Sure it's better than in Wallace & Gromit, but...

sincerely
Spalter
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  • raymanrayman
    edited July 2009
    I can only agree.
    The WASD/mouse combo feels somewhat awkward.
    I guess I'll get used to it, but it just feels wrong. I keep forgetting to use keyboard and try to click places to go there :(
  • Masta23Masta23
    edited July 2009
    it is becasue the game is 3d and point and click controls only work well on 2d adventure games.
  • ScumfaceScumface
    edited July 2009
    Masta23 wrote: »
    it is becasue the game is 3d and point and click controls only work well on 2d adventure games.

    You've not played Sam & Max then...


    As for the control system, it did feel a little awkward but I'm sure I'll be used to it before too long!
  • threepcrossthreepcross
    edited July 2009
    I see no reason to not have ordinaray point and click. and I want it.
  • RMJ1984RMJ1984
    edited July 2009
    point and click can work, they just gotta control there damn camera, i mean it moves like crazy from scene to scene, on the boat, suddenly you got a big wooden pole right in youre center view.

    we gotta have point and click back, im sure that friendly user on the forums will post his scripts, and yet again show telltale just like in Wallace and gromit it works :)

    Keyboard and Mouse doesnt work, Adventure games are slow and you sit and take the view, so i constantly move my hand away, now the mouse only move guybrush has the problem that while i move as you would point and click i explore the area to see what i can click on. So that sadly doesnt work either :( its really a shame,

    I must say this, ive given it a chance in Wallace and gromit and now in Monkey Island, if anymore games use this keyboard + mouse sam & max or other, im done, a more demanding control scheme that is so inferior, its better that telltale controls its areas and camera angles, they are moving and zooming to much, makes it annoying even now. And with them gone point and click will work just perfect, so again please bring it back.

    and what makes the keyboard controls even worse and pisses me off, is you move around with keyboard right, then you find oh i wanna click on that, and he moves all by him self, its feels so annoying, that sometimes he can move by him self, but not all the time?, its so damn frustrating just almost a lack of nice worths to describe it. painful, awful annoying.

    so again control youre areas and camera angles and give us full point and click back it can work, i wont buy that easy comment, you tried something and that is great, but its failed.

    sometimes you just gotta admit it, it takes guts, Ubisoft had guts, when we flooded their forum with how foolish they were, and for a not to smart company, they did listen. Its time you bite the dust and listen to us, its really the only thing that making sure instead of monkey island being 100% fun and enjoyable, it takes 50% of that focus because, oh gosh Guybrush will move by himself when i find useful stuff, but he wont move to empty locations where i can wanna go. I cannot adapt to it, because it doesnt feel right.
  • RadogolRadogol
    edited July 2009
    RMJ1984 wrote: »
    Keyboard and Mouse doesnt work, Adventure games are slow and you sit and take the view, so i constantly move my hand away, now the mouse only move guybrush has the problem that while i move as you would point and click i explore the area to see what i can click on.

    Have you tried moving with the mouse? Just hold the left button and "drag" Guybrush around. Perhaps you will find it more enjoyable. Not true point and click, which I'd prefer, but you can hold your coffee cup at all times ;)
  • infernogottinfernogott
    edited July 2009
    I'd rather have classic point 'n click controls, too.
  • stuxmusicstuxmusic
    edited July 2009
    Me too
  • thehardmenpaththehardmenpath
    edited July 2009
    And me.
  • LukeSWLukeSW
    edited July 2009
    And me, on PC at least.
  • threepcrossthreepcross
    edited July 2009
    the dragging was really bad and I found myself relying on the keyboard arrows almost immediately.
  • EstelEstel
    edited July 2009
    threepcross wrote: »
    the dragging was really bad and I found myself relying on the keyboard arrows almost immediately.

    This.
  • priznaprizna
    edited July 2009
    I thought there was going to be controls so you didnt have to hold down the mouse button to get him to move?
  • EstelEstel
    edited July 2009
    prizna wrote: »
    I thought there was going to be controls so you didnt have to hold down the mouse button to get him to move?

    You can use WASG to move.
  • priznaprizna
    edited July 2009
    I know but i heard somewhere in the forums that there was a setup that was mouse only that you didnt have to hold down the button.
  • RMJ1984RMJ1984
    edited July 2009
    ofc, thanks for trying the mouse dragging approach :) nice we are heard, but again classic point and click please.
    Radogol wrote: »
    Have you tried moving with the mouse? Just hold the left button and "drag" Guybrush around. Perhaps you will find it more enjoyable. Not true point and click, which I'd prefer, but you can hold your coffee cup at all times ;)

    yeah i have tried that :) the problem with it is, it makes exploring the area a pain, when you move with normal point and click or keyboard, you explore the area with the mouse, you dont wait to guybrush stands still and then explore? atleast i dont hehe, so that interupts gameplay flow, just like the keyboard does also, just that i have to focus on it every single time :(

    I wish it wasnt such a big pain and it is sadly, and it really ruins such a big part of an excellent game which Monkey Island truely is, just the damn controls :( yuck.
  • SI_2DSI_2D
    edited July 2009
    i did not know there was wsda mmmm thats nice however dislike the drag the only thing i found slightly irating but thats nit picking

    THIS GAMES AWESOME :D
    <3 TT
  • XandonXandon
    edited July 2009
    Great job on the game TT!

    I do have to agree with the others though, this odd 'hula hoop' for movement is quite akward and unexpected...
  • drax86drax86
    edited July 2009
    i agree i would love to beable to use point and clikc
  • TofuHeadTofuHead
    edited July 2009
    This mouse business has turned me off. I hate the dragging crap.
  • LuigiHannLuigiHann
    edited July 2009
    I'm getting used to it, but it's still absurd. This isn't progress, it's a sideways step into weird-town.
  • ArmakuniArmakuni
    edited July 2009
    I think it works pretty well, I'm only using the mouse controls.
  • homerjshomerjs
    edited July 2009
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hBTqgCGnhU
  • DerrickDerrick
    edited July 2009
    Aah... the joys of watching newcomers to the forums discuss old things. ;)

    Let me re-cap for you all. Strong Bad was the last P&C game. When they came out with Wallace & Gromit, there was no mouse control for movement. Gone was the good old point and click. Replaced by more "imersive" direct control using the arrow keys or WASD keys.

    And the forums went crazy with multiple pages of complaints. TTG basically said they were not going back to P&C due to various technical issues. More discussions ensued and then the TOMI announcement came. People begged for some form of mouse control. We were not going to get P&C, but we wanted something.

    This new mouse movement method was a compromise. Your other option is to use a gamepad like what was needed for Grim Fandango and MI4.

    I would prefer P&C, but I find the new system very easy to control. And prefer it to the no mouse control for movement option of W&G.
  • DeicoonDeicoon
    edited July 2009
    I'd vote for point and click too.

    Feels like the mouse control drag and move is too sensitive and i hate wasd.

    I got him to run once with click drag, but have no idea how to do it again.
  • LaokinLaokin
    edited July 2009
    Deicoon wrote: »
    I'd vote for point and click too.

    Feels like the mouse control drag and move is too sensitive and i hate wasd.

    I got him to run once with click drag, but have no idea how to do it again.

    I have no problems with click drag I'm surpised so many of you guys do. Anyways.... To run you click both mouse buttons (right+left) and drag. I can control Guybrush just as good with the mouse only controls. The only thing is you can't move and click at the same time, but really you only need to move to pan the camera. Other than that its click-fest-o-rama any how.
  • thatdude98thatdude98
    edited July 2009
    Nah. Point and click... nah. I like the movement system, even if the click and drag is a bit shaky. And I will repeat something that I'm going to probably every time someone complains about TMI.

    We have been waiting NINE years for a new MI game, now that it's out, are we really going to tear it down and nitpick every little thing? All I'm saying is, don't look the gift horse in the mouth.
  • infernogottinfernogott
    edited July 2009
    can you run with the keyboard controls, too?
  • ArmakuniArmakuni
    edited July 2009
    SHIFT key.
  • Reaver_88Reaver_88
    edited July 2009
    If it ain't broke, why "fix" it? The controls in sam and max work great, and I am continuosly finding myself clicking on areas to move to them :( totally lame. Both control schemes in Tomi feel a bit awkward and clumsy to me. At least they brought back inventory combination puzzles! Hope they implement them into all future games (not just mi)
  • RoundheadpoliceRoundheadpolice
    edited July 2009
    I thought CMI was the easiest to use regarding the controls, and especially the camera angles. It was far easier being able to see the whole scene on one screen without the camera changing angles every few steps.

    Not complaining though cause I've got used to it by now :)
  • Dash383535Dash383535
    edited July 2009
    you can have click and point go to opsoins
  • fdiskfdisk
    edited July 2009
    rayman wrote: »
    I can only agree.
    The WASD/mouse combo feels somewhat awkward.
    I guess I'll get used to it, but it just feels wrong. I keep forgetting to use keyboard and try to click places to go there :(

    Exact same here; all the way through the game and even in the last area I found myself clicking to move!
  • RubarackRubarack
    edited July 2009
    Derrick wrote: »
    This new mouse movement method was a compromise. Your other option is to use a gamepad like what was needed for Grim Fandango and MI4.

    Not really, because they took that option away from us. They also took away the object highlight function, the one benefit of this sorry affair.

    Anyway Telltale have proven themselves to be pretty damn thick-headed on this issue. The gameplay suffers so we can run up a bridge to get to the doctors house.

    They've got to the point where the controls just about function, so I don't think they'll ever accept it was a mistake. If you want P&C you'll have to look elsewhere.
  • everythingsablureverythingsablur
    edited July 2009
    Love the game guys, but have to agree - point & click is the answer.

    Is it not possible to have both side by side?
  • AndywinXpAndywinXp
    edited July 2009
    Point & click for the win
  • taumeltaumel
    edited July 2009
    Mouse Point&Click and a properly done game controller steering.
  • Dave GrossmanDave Grossman Telltale Alumni
    edited July 2009
    prizna wrote: »
    I thought there was going to be controls so you didnt have to hold down the mouse button to get him to move?

    Edit: Originally I said in this post that there was such a mode, but I was wrong about that.
  • VeganVegan
    edited July 2009
    Reaver_88 wrote: »
    If it ain't broke, why "fix" it?

    Because now we have to share the sandbox with the Xbox people. We're essentially getting ports of console games now, with wacky "virtual joysticks", instead of vice versa.

    I understand that costs need to kept down, and now you don't have to spend time on pathfinding, but it feels sloppy to regress after getting a taste of true point and click for Bone, two seasons of Sam & Max, and Strong Bad.
  • TrambTramb
    edited July 2009
    Another disappointed customer here.
    Direct control is such a waste of time.
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