I only hate Pickle because he does the cockney rhyming slang AND THEN IMMEDIATELY SAYS THE ACTUAL WORD ANYWAY.
I don't know if the developers just thought players would be too stupid to figure out what he's saying, but it completely defeats the purpose of him using rhyming slang in the first place...
I think they would have been better served having a little bogan Aussie kid, who grew up wrestling Kraggons (yay, stereotypes!) rather than an inexplicably Dickensian Brit.
It's not until I started doing side-missions for Tassiter in TPS that I truly appreciated Jack as a character/just how difficult it is to make a character who's a prick seem likeable.
Jack has said far worse things to the player than Tassiter ever does (including in TPS and Tales when he's supposedly on the player's side), and yet I want to be BFF's with one and strangle the crap out of the other...
The man himself sums it up best:
"Sure, it's a tough universe, but there's no excuse for being an asshole. Unless you're funny with it, then it's kinda totally fine."
What Moxxi says to Ellie is nagging though, and does not have anything to do with her being 'concerned for her health' - it's outright stated in the game that Moxxi only wants Ellie to lose weight so that men will find her attractive.
And it's not just the weight, Moxxi bugs her about not wearing make-up, too (which obviously has nothing to do with her health).
I understand that you have struggled with your own weight, and applaud you for being able to take charge and get healthy, but not everybody has that luxury - as Flog has said, a lot of obese people have medical conditions that contribute to their weight, and for them I think a character like Ellie is a positive role model.
We don't know Ellie's situation (though given the body types of fellow Hodunks such as Tector there's a good chance genetics play a large role), but what we do know is that she is comfortable with who she is, and isn't going to let anyone dictate how she should or shouldn't look, or how she should feel about herself. That's a really positive message, and something that applies to far more than weight.
I was dangerously close to being that morbidly obese about 3 years ago. I've worked hard to lose weight because obese bodies are NOT pleasan… moret to look at. They're just not. They're not healthy, they're not good-looking, and they should not be encouraged. I'm sorry you don't want to hear this, but that is how I feel about this issue of obesity. Ellie is a horrible example, they almost try to make her a role model or at least someone to admire because she doesn't want to lose weight, but she's a freakin' idiot to not want to make her body healthier, and anybody who followers her example in real life is just as dumb.
I shouldn't word it in such a harsh way, but it's better to be blunt. Obesity is NOT glorious or sexy.
And as for your second point, It's not the disagreeing in general, it's that Ellie disagrees with Moxxie's concerns about her health and weight. I get disagreements with my mom, yes, but if she has concerns about my health I'd… [view original content]
Hmm.. Didn't find anyone annoying in BL 1, In BL 2 however, Ellie, Claptrap (who i liked in BL 1, he was adorable), Tina and Torgue are annoying to me. Im probably forgetting someone : U In TPS i didn't really find anyone annoying, disliking characters is a different thing after all - in tftbl the only characters that annoyed me were felix and shade i guess.
The oh so obvious Oliver Twist thing was too over the top; however he totally redeemed himself by calling the Bosun creepy. That makes me laugh every time, and Jack getting fired because he totally admits that he hired an 11 year old to help them. I guess you have to be there to appreciate it.
I only hate Pickle because he does the cockney rhyming slang AND THEN IMMEDIATELY SAYS THE ACTUAL WORD ANYWAY.
I don't know if the develo… morepers just thought players would be too stupid to figure out what he's saying, but it completely defeats the purpose of him using rhyming slang in the first place...
I think they would have been better served having a little bogan Aussie kid, who grew up wrestling Kraggons (yay, stereotypes!) rather than an inexplicably Dickensian Brit.
Jack is written and played very well. You get more the feeling that he only means about half of what he says when he insults you and and it usually is more about getting a rise out of you. It's school yard bravado and one-upsmanship more than anything else. Tassiter believes you are a totally inferior, unintelligent, monkey who is beneath his contempt, who doesn't insult you more than tell you exactly what he believes you are.
It's not until I started doing side-missions for Tassiter in TPS that I truly appreciated Jack as a character/just how difficult it is to ma… moreke a character who's a prick seem likeable.
Jack has said far worse things to the player than Tassiter ever does (including in TPS and Tales when he's supposedly on the player's side), and yet I want to be BFF's with one and strangle the crap out of the other...
The man himself sums it up best:
"Sure, it's a tough universe, but there's no excuse for being an asshole. Unless you're funny with it, then it's kinda totally fine."
Fiona. I've been doing the best I can with what I've been given in her segments, but I find her flat, clichéd and not particularly interesting, and trying to roleplay her consistently is a chore sometimes. She has her moments, but as the female player character I really feel that she drags the game down.
I thought Lilith was very annoying in BL2. She was bitchy, obnoxious, and I truly blame her partially for Roland's death. If she had listened, he might not have been distracted when handsome Jack shot him. I also get annoyed with moxxi. The sexual innuendo gets overplayed way too much. I mean, only time you hear from moxxi in tftbl is a sexual innuendo. She wasn't that bad in the pre sequel, until the end, and then what I thought was 'wow, typical hoe.' That's all for me, really.
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Shade, that guy's overall design is weird enough for me but add on his annoying as hell personality, please go the **** away!
I only hate Pickle because he does the cockney rhyming slang AND THEN IMMEDIATELY SAYS THE ACTUAL WORD ANYWAY.
I don't know if the developers just thought players would be too stupid to figure out what he's saying, but it completely defeats the purpose of him using rhyming slang in the first place...
I think they would have been better served having a little bogan Aussie kid, who grew up wrestling Kraggons (yay, stereotypes!) rather than an inexplicably Dickensian Brit.
You called?
It's not until I started doing side-missions for Tassiter in TPS that I truly appreciated Jack as a character/just how difficult it is to make a character who's a prick seem likeable.
Jack has said far worse things to the player than Tassiter ever does (including in TPS and Tales when he's supposedly on the player's side), and yet I want to be BFF's with one and strangle the crap out of the other...
The man himself sums it up best:
What Moxxi says to Ellie is nagging though, and does not have anything to do with her being 'concerned for her health' - it's outright stated in the game that Moxxi only wants Ellie to lose weight so that men will find her attractive.
And it's not just the weight, Moxxi bugs her about not wearing make-up, too (which obviously has nothing to do with her health).
I understand that you have struggled with your own weight, and applaud you for being able to take charge and get healthy, but not everybody has that luxury - as Flog has said, a lot of obese people have medical conditions that contribute to their weight, and for them I think a character like Ellie is a positive role model.
We don't know Ellie's situation (though given the body types of fellow Hodunks such as Tector there's a good chance genetics play a large role), but what we do know is that she is comfortable with who she is, and isn't going to let anyone dictate how she should or shouldn't look, or how she should feel about herself. That's a really positive message, and something that applies to far more than weight.
Hmm.. Didn't find anyone annoying in BL 1, In BL 2 however, Ellie, Claptrap (who i liked in BL 1, he was adorable), Tina and Torgue are annoying to me. Im probably forgetting someone : U In TPS i didn't really find anyone annoying, disliking characters is a different thing after all - in tftbl the only characters that annoyed me were felix and shade i guess.
As much as I understand his character and his flawed and incomplete programming, Claptrap annoys me.
Scooter used to annoy me, then Telltale came and wrote him a lot better and show more positive sides of him.
The oh so obvious Oliver Twist thing was too over the top; however he totally redeemed himself by calling the Bosun creepy. That makes me laugh every time, and Jack getting fired because he totally admits that he hired an 11 year old to help them. I guess you have to be there to appreciate it.
Jack is written and played very well. You get more the feeling that he only means about half of what he says when he insults you and and it usually is more about getting a rise out of you. It's school yard bravado and one-upsmanship more than anything else. Tassiter believes you are a totally inferior, unintelligent, monkey who is beneath his contempt, who doesn't insult you more than tell you exactly what he believes you are.
Even though they're not characters Threshers and Rakks are the only things that annoy me.
Fuck claptrap
Pickle
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And Tiny Tina(Only in TPS. She was way cooler in BL2!)
And rats!
Shade
Threshers can go fuck themselves
Especially wormhole ones
They once took 500 grand from me. Stupid shits.
Yeah, when you first come across Rats it sucks.
Agreed
I hate Claptrap, why would I want to fuck him?
Ditto
hyperion JET loaders
well at least I haven't come across this
Both of them can go fuck themselves, God those things suck.
If we're also counting enemies, I'd like to add Constructor bots to my list of annoying characters, especially when they launch nukes.
That and when they activate their critical spot shields,so fucking frustrating.
Fiona. I've been doing the best I can with what I've been given in her segments, but I find her flat, clichéd and not particularly interesting, and trying to roleplay her consistently is a chore sometimes. She has her moments, but as the female player character I really feel that she drags the game down.
WITCH DOCTORS. Especially the Chupacabra ones.
I still hate Claptrap, I don't care if they made a whole DLC to try to guilt me into liking him.
Tiny Tina. Never understood why she is so popular. I really hate it when she speaks !
I just know I'm gonna get flak for this, but Psychos. Just in general.
Even though I love her VA, Ellie (how did she make it out of Moxxi?)
Also Pickle, the fake cockney accent really made it hard to like him and then I just found him really bland.
She's not everyone's cup of tea
Claptrap, Lilith and those friggin threshers are so annoying! Everyone else is okay.
Maybe you’ll change your mind after watching this:
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It didn't change my mind, but it did increase the list of questions I have about the universe.
Come on,this is the best thing in the world,it shows you that psychos still have a heart after all.
But I like Tiny Tina. She's so psychotic it's just... awesome.
I never knew I needed this in my life so much.
pickle
Shade.
I thought Lilith was very annoying in BL2. She was bitchy, obnoxious, and I truly blame her partially for Roland's death. If she had listened, he might not have been distracted when handsome Jack shot him. I also get annoyed with moxxi. The sexual innuendo gets overplayed way too much. I mean, only time you hear from moxxi in tftbl is a sexual innuendo. She wasn't that bad in the pre sequel, until the end, and then what I thought was 'wow, typical hoe.' That's all for me, really.