F*** Kenny

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  • edited September 2012
    Wrighty wrote: »
    Also what evidence is there for Katjaa not liking Kenny anymore? Caus I couldn't find any.

    It doesn't exist. Kajaa told Kenny she loved him and loved their son more than life itself. Back at the motor inn, when you tell her about the meat locker, Katjaa comments that everything is changing, not just Kenny.
    adontimasu wrote: »
    No, actually, I think most people took her with them. It wasn't much of a majority though; maybe 55 or 60%.

    There are a few polls on the forum that seem to indicate otherwise. Wait for the episode statistics prior to the next release.
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    It doesn't exist. Kajaa told Kenny she loved him and loved their son more than life itself. Back at the motor inn, when you tell her about the meat locker, Katjaa comments that everything is changing, not just Kenny.

    It's a combination of her facial expressions, comments and attitude as a whole. She's not happy with what Kenny is turning into. She had some lines about him, but I can't quote them by memory.
  • edited September 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    She's not happy with what Kenny is turning into. She had some lines about him, but I can't quote them by memory.

    Of course not, but she's not happy about having to carry a gun or sewing up people or what her son has been exposed to either. She very definitely doesn't think her husband is some sort of monster.
  • edited September 2012
    I believe she said that "everything's changing so quickly" or something to that effect. She still loves Kenny and he still loves her. She just can't adapt to how the world went so bad so fast. Kenny has. He's changed with the world around him, and she's noticed. She wasn't able to change with the rest of the group, which is why she put a bullet into her head.
  • edited September 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    I believe she said that "everything's changing so quickly" or something to that effect. She still loves Kenny and he still loves her. She just can't adapt to how the world went so bad so fast. Kenny has. He's changed with the world around him, and she's noticed. She wasn't able to change with the rest of the group, which is why she put a bullet into her head.

    When I told her what happened in the meat locker she had a very sad/disappointed look about her and let out a gasp in shock. Then slowly turned and walked away that's when she said everything is changing so fast.

    I got the impression she did not like what Kenny had become.
  • edited September 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    I believe she said that "everything's changing so quickly" or something to that effect. She still loves Kenny and he still loves her. She just can't adapt to how the world went so bad so fast. Kenny has. He's changed with the world around him, and she's noticed. She wasn't able to change with the rest of the group, which is why she put a bullet into her head.

    Ya Im thinking something about 'killing her only child' is more the reason
  • edited September 2012
    My philosophy with Kenny was that I'd rather be with someone you think is a bitch than become your little bitch. Before episode 3 I had hoped Lee would get the chance to knock him out but fate gave him a bigger and crueler blow than any my Lee could of landed, so I talked him down. I'm more apathetic towards him now. If he wants to leave I wont stop him but I wont let him die either. You don't need to be best buds with someone to save their life Kenny.
  • edited September 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    I got the impression she did not like what Kenny had become.

    She didn't like what any of them were becoming.
    Rock114 wrote: »
    She wasn't able to change with the rest of the group, which is why she put a bullet into her head.

    That had nothing to do with being able to cope. That was a mother loving her son more than life and making the choice to leave with him.
  • edited September 2012
    Her son is not the only reason. Morgan loses his son, as well as many other people, but they don't all commit suicide.

    She didn't really have a reason to keep fighting.
  • edited September 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    She didn't really have a reason to keep fighting.

    Because of her son.

    It's not a cookie cutter universe, not every character is going to react the same way with the same motivations. While there are always mitigating circumstances, tainting Katjaa's affection for Kenny is presumptuous.
  • edited September 2012
    How is it exactly presumptuous? For the past 2 episodes I've seen her distance herself more and more from Kenny. I'm not saying she doesn't love him, but that doesn't mean she likes what he's turning into.
  • edited September 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    Her son is not the only reason. Morgan loses his son, as well as many other people, but they don't all commit suicide.

    She didn't really have a reason to keep fighting.

    Kenny and Kat had a strong, healthy marriage eh? :)

    'My son's dead...all I have left is (looks over at Kenny)...*blam*
  • edited September 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    How is it exactly presumptuous? For the past 2 episodes I've seen her distance herself more and more from Kenny.

    I already agreed that she didn't like what any of them were turning into, herself included. If anyone put distance in their relationship it was Kenny for not telling her himself, but even that is my presumption. There is no indication that Katjaa killed herself because of Kenny or what he had done, because that would only hold true so long as you told her what happened in the meat locker and not everyone did.
  • edited September 2012
    Playing through my 'Asshole Lee' save I noticed a pattern seemed to be emerging with the decisions I was making being some way related to ol' Kenster. A fair few of the bad or negative choices usually either agree with Kenny or benefit him somehow.

    And the strangest part was I actually liked him a lot more.

    It's a shame that with Kenny you're either his best friend or his worst enemy. His relationship seems to be too black and white with no middle ground. I'm sure (and I hope) that it will change after the incidents in Episode 3, because I have to admit I've really warmed to the fella.
  • edited September 2012
    Xarne wrote: »
    Kenny and Kat had a strong, healthy marriage eh? :)

    'My son's dead...all I have left is (looks over at Kenny)...*blam*

    LOL

    "Hey, Lee. Kat didn't kill herself because I was all she had left right? C'mon Lee, you gotta back me up on this one"!
  • edited September 2012
    Kenny totally lost me in the second episode. At the moment I'm reading Rise of the Governor and the Governor himself is a more likable guy.
  • edited September 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    Kenny totally lost me in the second episode. At the moment I'm reading Rise of the Governor and the Governor himself is a more likable guy.

    I agree with the second episode bit there.

    I was actually gritting my teeth when I had to hold back Lilly in that meat locker. It was heartbreaking.

    I'm glad I never went through with it in my canon save.
  • edited September 2012
    I agree with the second episode bit there.

    I was actually gritting my teeth when I had to hold back Lilly in that meat locker. It was heartbreaking.

    I'm glad I never went through with it in my canon save.

    I've seen the hold back Lilly scene and I can't honestly say I can't do it. It is really heartbreaking. Whenever I start a new save file and I decide to play it differently I just can't make that decision. It is a really horrible thing to do.
  • edited September 2012
    Almost rewound on that part during my canon save, but I decided from the start I'd stick with my choices no matter what. The part where she breaks free and hugs her father is still kind of painful to see.
  • edited September 2012
    Come to think of it, I was actually warming to Larry as well. He was a dick, sure, but who wouldn't be if their daughter was hanging around with a convicted murderer? Some of his one liners were brilliant.

    But that's a discussion for another thread, methinks. :rolleyes:
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    She didn't like what any of them were becoming.

    Her demeanor remained the same after she asked me what happened in the meat locker. Lee told her the he and Lilly were giving Larry CPR until Kenny put a stop to it. No change in Kat's demeanor. Then she asked how did Kenny stop it. Lee told her Kenny crushed his skull in. Big change in Kat's demeanor.

    Kat has said before that sometimes it's hard to do the right thing. Kenny killing Larry with a salt lick upset Kat. I don't think Kat thought Kenny did the right thing.
  • edited September 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    Her demeanor remained the same after she asked me what happened in the meat locker. Lee told her the he and Lilly were giving Larry CPR until Kenny put a stop to it. No change in Kat's demeanor. Then she asked how did Kenny stop it. Lee told her Kenny crushed his skull in. Big change in Kat's demeanor.

    Kat has said before that sometimes it's hard to do the right thing. Kenny killing Larry with a salt lick upset Kat. I don't think Kat thought Kenny did the right thing.

    *Hint* Because he didn't! :D
  • edited September 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    I've seen the hold back Lilly scene and I can't honestly say I can't do it. It is really heartbreaking. Whenever I start a new save file and I decide to play it differently I just can't make that decision. It is a really horrible thing to do.

    It is. I saw it on YouTube.When Lilly tells Lee "Kenny has his family and you have Clementine.You've left me with nothing Lee, I have nothing now"... :( and hearing Kenny answer Lee with "if she wants to help us she can if she doesn't then the hell with her!" What a sympathetic and classy gentleman you truly are Kenny.
  • edited September 2012
    Reading those lines again ignites my longing to drop a salt-lick on Kenny's head :p

    However, he has already lost everything... so it wouldn't really be as effective as it could've been! :p
  • edited September 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    I've seen the hold back Lilly scene and I can't honestly say I can't do it. It is really heartbreaking. Whenever I start a new save file and I decide to play it differently I just can't make that decision. It is a really horrible thing to do.

    Damn.....you have to hold back Lilly while Kenny.....man, I could not do that either.
  • edited September 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    Reading those lines again ignites my longing to drop a salt-lick on Kenny's head :p

    However, he has already lost everything... so it wouldn't really be as effective as it could've been! :p

    The crunch noise that Kenny's throat makes when you beat his ass down on the train is quite satisfying.

    And I say that in the least sadistic way possible!
  • edited September 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    Damn.....you have to hold back Lilly while Kenny.....man, I could not do that either.

    Yeah.. and she's crying... begging you not to do it... bottom line - Kenny is a heartless bastard.
    I almost start feeling bad for killing Duck and not letting the son of a bitch do it himself.
  • edited September 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    Yeah.. and she's crying... begging you not to do it... bottom line - Kenny is a heartless bastard.
    I almost start feeling bad for killing Duck and not letting the son of a bitch do it himself.

    No more. I can't take it. Alright, Kenny dies right after Ben.
  • edited September 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    No more. I can't take it. Alright, Kenny dies right after Ben.

    Kill them. Kill them ALL!
  • edited September 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    Yeah.. and she's crying... begging you not to do it... bottom line - Kenny is a heartless bastard.
    I almost start feeling bad for killing Duck and not letting the son of a bitch do it himself.

    But Lilly shoots someone point blank in the face and she's just misunderstood.

    Got'cha.
  • edited September 2012
    Ninnuendo wrote: »
    Kill them. Kill them ALL!

    And I never want to hear the name Peter Pan AGAIN!
  • edited September 2012
    Oh the cleverness of you! :rolleyes:
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    But Lilly shoots someone point blank in the face and she's just misunderstood.

    Got'cha.

    Someone touched on this in another thread. Lily could have gotten away with the murder...if only she was nicer to people. People can accept alot of BS so long as you do it with a smile on your face.
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    But Lilly shoots someone point blank in the face and she's just misunderstood.

    Got'cha.

    And who killed her father first? Who drove her there?
  • edited September 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    And who killed her father first? Who drove her there?

    Exactly. Lilly wasn't her real self in that moment, while Kenny's real nature revealed itself in that meat locker. Let's wait and see how the events of episode 3 affect Kenny.From the preview of episode 4 it seems hes becoming even more callous.It even shows him wanting to leave Omid behind to die...
  • edited September 2012
    That preview might be misleading just like the one for ep. 3 was. If you check it again you'll see it has more scenes that are not in ep. 3 than ones that are in :D
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    Oh the cleverness of you! :rolleyes:

    Quiet you dogs! Or I'll cast anchor in you!
  • edited September 2012
    I've never understood the need to follow anyone, least of all anyone as mentally unstable as Lilly or as self-motivated as Kenny. Lilly was fully prepared to throw the group out on the street (kids and all), long before daddy dearest became spam.
    Xarne wrote: »
    People can accept alot of BS so long as you do it with a smile on your face.

    Never works for the Joker.

    Technically, Lilly did get away with murder, because she has to go murder more people elsewhere, but evidently that's the Governor's fault. Ahhh, poor Lilly.
    Quiet you dogs! Or I'll cast anchor in you!

    Old... alone... done for!
  • edited September 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    Her demeanor remained the same after she asked me what happened in the meat locker. Lee told her the he and Lilly were giving Larry CPR until Kenny put a stop to it. No change in Kat's demeanor. Then she asked how did Kenny stop it. Lee told her Kenny crushed his skull in. Big change in Kat's demeanor.

    Kat has said before that sometimes it's hard to do the right thing. Kenny killing Larry with a salt lick upset Kat. I don't think Kat thought Kenny did the right thing.

    Kenny was wrong in that scenario, Very very wrong, atleast to my morals, but kat thought it was wrong too and she was the doctor around there. But once again as I want to state very much so, it was not a black and white scenario, Kenny Could very well have been right--except for the fact that he was wrong, if his lips did start moving as many believe.
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    Yeah.. and she's crying... begging you not to do it... bottom line - Kenny is a heartless bastard.
    I almost start feeling bad for killing Duck and not letting the son of a bitch do it himself.

    I wouldn't go that far, Kenny had a right motive, he just went about it all wrong--he should have got something and prepared incase he came back as a walker instead of just ending it.
  • edited September 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    I've never understood the need to follow anyone, least of all anyone as mentally unstable as Lilly or as self-motivated as Kenny. Lilly was fully prepared to throw the group out on the street (kids and all), long before daddy dearest became spam.

    Technically, Lilly did get away with murder, because she has to go murder more people elsewhere, but evidently that's the Governor's fault. Ahhh, poor Lilly.

    !

    Lilly was prepared to throw the group out on the streets? Haha, that's so untrue. Actually she was the one that told Lee not to bring new people into the group, then the current members were already starving. You perceive it as throwing people out and I see it as looking for OUR group.

    She never treated the kids badly. You're really trying to make her look as black as possible, right?

    Lilly got away with murder? So did Kenny and so did Lee. You're quite hypocritical on this one.
    The statement about the Governor looks like pure spite. Who did Lilly kill there? Enemies and a tyrant!
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