Also what evidence is there for Katjaa not liking Kenny anymore? Caus I couldn't find any.
It doesn't exist. Kajaa told Kenny she loved him and loved their son more than life itself. Back at the motor inn, when you tell her about the meat locker, Katjaa comments that everything is changing, not just Kenny.
It doesn't exist. Kajaa told Kenny she loved him and loved their son more than life itself. Back at the motor inn, when you tell her about the meat locker, Katjaa comments that everything is changing, not just Kenny.
It's a combination of her facial expressions, comments and attitude as a whole. She's not happy with what Kenny is turning into. She had some lines about him, but I can't quote them by memory.
She's not happy with what Kenny is turning into. She had some lines about him, but I can't quote them by memory.
Of course not, but she's not happy about having to carry a gun or sewing up people or what her son has been exposed to either. She very definitely doesn't think her husband is some sort of monster.
I believe she said that "everything's changing so quickly" or something to that effect. She still loves Kenny and he still loves her. She just can't adapt to how the world went so bad so fast. Kenny has. He's changed with the world around him, and she's noticed. She wasn't able to change with the rest of the group, which is why she put a bullet into her head.
I believe she said that "everything's changing so quickly" or something to that effect. She still loves Kenny and he still loves her. She just can't adapt to how the world went so bad so fast. Kenny has. He's changed with the world around him, and she's noticed. She wasn't able to change with the rest of the group, which is why she put a bullet into her head.
When I told her what happened in the meat locker she had a very sad/disappointed look about her and let out a gasp in shock. Then slowly turned and walked away that's when she said everything is changing so fast.
I got the impression she did not like what Kenny had become.
I believe she said that "everything's changing so quickly" or something to that effect. She still loves Kenny and he still loves her. She just can't adapt to how the world went so bad so fast. Kenny has. He's changed with the world around him, and she's noticed. She wasn't able to change with the rest of the group, which is why she put a bullet into her head.
Ya Im thinking something about 'killing her only child' is more the reason
My philosophy with Kenny was that I'd rather be with someone you think is a bitch than become your little bitch. Before episode 3 I had hoped Lee would get the chance to knock him out but fate gave him a bigger and crueler blow than any my Lee could of landed, so I talked him down. I'm more apathetic towards him now. If he wants to leave I wont stop him but I wont let him die either. You don't need to be best buds with someone to save their life Kenny.
It's not a cookie cutter universe, not every character is going to react the same way with the same motivations. While there are always mitigating circumstances, tainting Katjaa's affection for Kenny is presumptuous.
How is it exactly presumptuous? For the past 2 episodes I've seen her distance herself more and more from Kenny. I'm not saying she doesn't love him, but that doesn't mean she likes what he's turning into.
How is it exactly presumptuous? For the past 2 episodes I've seen her distance herself more and more from Kenny.
I already agreed that she didn't like what any of them were turning into, herself included. If anyone put distance in their relationship it was Kenny for not telling her himself, but even that is my presumption. There is no indication that Katjaa killed herself because of Kenny or what he had done, because that would only hold true so long as you told her what happened in the meat locker and not everyone did.
Playing through my 'Asshole Lee' save I noticed a pattern seemed to be emerging with the decisions I was making being some way related to ol' Kenster. A fair few of the bad or negative choices usually either agree with Kenny or benefit him somehow.
And the strangest part was I actually liked him a lot more.
It's a shame that with Kenny you're either his best friend or his worst enemy. His relationship seems to be too black and white with no middle ground. I'm sure (and I hope) that it will change after the incidents in Episode 3, because I have to admit I've really warmed to the fella.
I was actually gritting my teeth when I had to hold back Lilly in that meat locker. It was heartbreaking.
I'm glad I never went through with it in my canon save.
I've seen the hold back Lilly scene and I can't honestly say I can't do it. It is really heartbreaking. Whenever I start a new save file and I decide to play it differently I just can't make that decision. It is a really horrible thing to do.
Almost rewound on that part during my canon save, but I decided from the start I'd stick with my choices no matter what. The part where she breaks free and hugs her father is still kind of painful to see.
Come to think of it, I was actually warming to Larry as well. He was a dick, sure, but who wouldn't be if their daughter was hanging around with a convicted murderer? Some of his one liners were brilliant.
But that's a discussion for another thread, methinks. :rolleyes:
Her demeanor remained the same after she asked me what happened in the meat locker. Lee told her the he and Lilly were giving Larry CPR until Kenny put a stop to it. No change in Kat's demeanor. Then she asked how did Kenny stop it. Lee told her Kenny crushed his skull in. Big change in Kat's demeanor.
Kat has said before that sometimes it's hard to do the right thing. Kenny killing Larry with a salt lick upset Kat. I don't think Kat thought Kenny did the right thing.
Her demeanor remained the same after she asked me what happened in the meat locker. Lee told her the he and Lilly were giving Larry CPR until Kenny put a stop to it. No change in Kat's demeanor. Then she asked how did Kenny stop it. Lee told her Kenny crushed his skull in. Big change in Kat's demeanor.
Kat has said before that sometimes it's hard to do the right thing. Kenny killing Larry with a salt lick upset Kat. I don't think Kat thought Kenny did the right thing.
I've seen the hold back Lilly scene and I can't honestly say I can't do it. It is really heartbreaking. Whenever I start a new save file and I decide to play it differently I just can't make that decision. It is a really horrible thing to do.
It is. I saw it on YouTube.When Lilly tells Lee "Kenny has his family and you have Clementine.You've left me with nothing Lee, I have nothing now"... and hearing Kenny answer Lee with "if she wants to help us she can if she doesn't then the hell with her!" What a sympathetic and classy gentleman you truly are Kenny.
I've seen the hold back Lilly scene and I can't honestly say I can't do it. It is really heartbreaking. Whenever I start a new save file and I decide to play it differently I just can't make that decision. It is a really horrible thing to do.
Damn.....you have to hold back Lilly while Kenny.....man, I could not do that either.
Damn.....you have to hold back Lilly while Kenny.....man, I could not do that either.
Yeah.. and she's crying... begging you not to do it... bottom line - Kenny is a heartless bastard.
I almost start feeling bad for killing Duck and not letting the son of a bitch do it himself.
Yeah.. and she's crying... begging you not to do it... bottom line - Kenny is a heartless bastard.
I almost start feeling bad for killing Duck and not letting the son of a bitch do it himself.
No more. I can't take it. Alright, Kenny dies right after Ben.
Yeah.. and she's crying... begging you not to do it... bottom line - Kenny is a heartless bastard.
I almost start feeling bad for killing Duck and not letting the son of a bitch do it himself.
But Lilly shoots someone point blank in the face and she's just misunderstood.
But Lilly shoots someone point blank in the face and she's just misunderstood.
Got'cha.
Someone touched on this in another thread. Lily could have gotten away with the murder...if only she was nicer to people. People can accept alot of BS so long as you do it with a smile on your face.
And who killed her father first? Who drove her there?
Exactly. Lilly wasn't her real self in that moment, while Kenny's real nature revealed itself in that meat locker. Let's wait and see how the events of episode 3 affect Kenny.From the preview of episode 4 it seems hes becoming even more callous.It even shows him wanting to leave Omid behind to die...
That preview might be misleading just like the one for ep. 3 was. If you check it again you'll see it has more scenes that are not in ep. 3 than ones that are in
I've never understood the need to follow anyone, least of all anyone as mentally unstable as Lilly or as self-motivated as Kenny. Lilly was fully prepared to throw the group out on the street (kids and all), long before daddy dearest became spam.
People can accept alot of BS so long as you do it with a smile on your face.
Never works for the Joker.
Technically, Lilly did get away with murder, because she has to go murder more people elsewhere, but evidently that's the Governor's fault. Ahhh, poor Lilly.
Her demeanor remained the same after she asked me what happened in the meat locker. Lee told her the he and Lilly were giving Larry CPR until Kenny put a stop to it. No change in Kat's demeanor. Then she asked how did Kenny stop it. Lee told her Kenny crushed his skull in. Big change in Kat's demeanor.
Kat has said before that sometimes it's hard to do the right thing. Kenny killing Larry with a salt lick upset Kat. I don't think Kat thought Kenny did the right thing.
Kenny was wrong in that scenario, Very very wrong, atleast to my morals, but kat thought it was wrong too and she was the doctor around there. But once again as I want to state very much so, it was not a black and white scenario, Kenny Could very well have been right--except for the fact that he was wrong, if his lips did start moving as many believe.
Yeah.. and she's crying... begging you not to do it... bottom line - Kenny is a heartless bastard.
I almost start feeling bad for killing Duck and not letting the son of a bitch do it himself.
I wouldn't go that far, Kenny had a right motive, he just went about it all wrong--he should have got something and prepared incase he came back as a walker instead of just ending it.
I've never understood the need to follow anyone, least of all anyone as mentally unstable as Lilly or as self-motivated as Kenny. Lilly was fully prepared to throw the group out on the street (kids and all), long before daddy dearest became spam.
Technically, Lilly did get away with murder, because she has to go murder more people elsewhere, but evidently that's the Governor's fault. Ahhh, poor Lilly.
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Lilly was prepared to throw the group out on the streets? Haha, that's so untrue. Actually she was the one that told Lee not to bring new people into the group, then the current members were already starving. You perceive it as throwing people out and I see it as looking for OUR group.
She never treated the kids badly. You're really trying to make her look as black as possible, right?
Lilly got away with murder? So did Kenny and so did Lee. You're quite hypocritical on this one.
The statement about the Governor looks like pure spite. Who did Lilly kill there? Enemies and a tyrant!
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It doesn't exist. Kajaa told Kenny she loved him and loved their son more than life itself. Back at the motor inn, when you tell her about the meat locker, Katjaa comments that everything is changing, not just Kenny.
There are a few polls on the forum that seem to indicate otherwise. Wait for the episode statistics prior to the next release.
It's a combination of her facial expressions, comments and attitude as a whole. She's not happy with what Kenny is turning into. She had some lines about him, but I can't quote them by memory.
Of course not, but she's not happy about having to carry a gun or sewing up people or what her son has been exposed to either. She very definitely doesn't think her husband is some sort of monster.
When I told her what happened in the meat locker she had a very sad/disappointed look about her and let out a gasp in shock. Then slowly turned and walked away that's when she said everything is changing so fast.
I got the impression she did not like what Kenny had become.
Ya Im thinking something about 'killing her only child' is more the reason
She didn't like what any of them were becoming.
That had nothing to do with being able to cope. That was a mother loving her son more than life and making the choice to leave with him.
She didn't really have a reason to keep fighting.
Because of her son.
It's not a cookie cutter universe, not every character is going to react the same way with the same motivations. While there are always mitigating circumstances, tainting Katjaa's affection for Kenny is presumptuous.
Kenny and Kat had a strong, healthy marriage eh?
'My son's dead...all I have left is (looks over at Kenny)...*blam*
I already agreed that she didn't like what any of them were turning into, herself included. If anyone put distance in their relationship it was Kenny for not telling her himself, but even that is my presumption. There is no indication that Katjaa killed herself because of Kenny or what he had done, because that would only hold true so long as you told her what happened in the meat locker and not everyone did.
And the strangest part was I actually liked him a lot more.
It's a shame that with Kenny you're either his best friend or his worst enemy. His relationship seems to be too black and white with no middle ground. I'm sure (and I hope) that it will change after the incidents in Episode 3, because I have to admit I've really warmed to the fella.
LOL
"Hey, Lee. Kat didn't kill herself because I was all she had left right? C'mon Lee, you gotta back me up on this one"!
I agree with the second episode bit there.
I was actually gritting my teeth when I had to hold back Lilly in that meat locker. It was heartbreaking.
I'm glad I never went through with it in my canon save.
I've seen the hold back Lilly scene and I can't honestly say I can't do it. It is really heartbreaking. Whenever I start a new save file and I decide to play it differently I just can't make that decision. It is a really horrible thing to do.
But that's a discussion for another thread, methinks. :rolleyes:
Her demeanor remained the same after she asked me what happened in the meat locker. Lee told her the he and Lilly were giving Larry CPR until Kenny put a stop to it. No change in Kat's demeanor. Then she asked how did Kenny stop it. Lee told her Kenny crushed his skull in. Big change in Kat's demeanor.
Kat has said before that sometimes it's hard to do the right thing. Kenny killing Larry with a salt lick upset Kat. I don't think Kat thought Kenny did the right thing.
*Hint* Because he didn't!
It is. I saw it on YouTube.When Lilly tells Lee "Kenny has his family and you have Clementine.You've left me with nothing Lee, I have nothing now"...
However, he has already lost everything... so it wouldn't really be as effective as it could've been!
Damn.....you have to hold back Lilly while Kenny.....man, I could not do that either.
The crunch noise that Kenny's throat makes when you beat his ass down on the train is quite satisfying.
And I say that in the least sadistic way possible!
Yeah.. and she's crying... begging you not to do it... bottom line - Kenny is a heartless bastard.
I almost start feeling bad for killing Duck and not letting the son of a bitch do it himself.
No more. I can't take it. Alright, Kenny dies right after Ben.
Kill them. Kill them ALL!
But Lilly shoots someone point blank in the face and she's just misunderstood.
Got'cha.
And I never want to hear the name Peter Pan AGAIN!
Someone touched on this in another thread. Lily could have gotten away with the murder...if only she was nicer to people. People can accept alot of BS so long as you do it with a smile on your face.
And who killed her father first? Who drove her there?
Exactly. Lilly wasn't her real self in that moment, while Kenny's real nature revealed itself in that meat locker. Let's wait and see how the events of episode 3 affect Kenny.From the preview of episode 4 it seems hes becoming even more callous.It even shows him wanting to leave Omid behind to die...
Quiet you dogs! Or I'll cast anchor in you!
Never works for the Joker.
Technically, Lilly did get away with murder, because she has to go murder more people elsewhere, but evidently that's the Governor's fault. Ahhh, poor Lilly.
Old... alone... done for!
Kenny was wrong in that scenario, Very very wrong, atleast to my morals, but kat thought it was wrong too and she was the doctor around there. But once again as I want to state very much so, it was not a black and white scenario, Kenny Could very well have been right--except for the fact that he was wrong, if his lips did start moving as many believe.
I wouldn't go that far, Kenny had a right motive, he just went about it all wrong--he should have got something and prepared incase he came back as a walker instead of just ending it.
Lilly was prepared to throw the group out on the streets? Haha, that's so untrue. Actually she was the one that told Lee not to bring new people into the group, then the current members were already starving. You perceive it as throwing people out and I see it as looking for OUR group.
She never treated the kids badly. You're really trying to make her look as black as possible, right?
Lilly got away with murder? So did Kenny and so did Lee. You're quite hypocritical on this one.
The statement about the Governor looks like pure spite. Who did Lilly kill there? Enemies and a tyrant!