I've heard that newer walkers retain some leftover traces of the consciousness of the original at first, allowing them to use thinking on the level of a monkey and cling/respond to things that remind them of who they used to be, hence things like a little girl still carrying her doll in a trailer, walkers using rocks to break windows, Diana and Ed sticking near each other in Savannah, and possibly Natasha ignoring Arvo and Kenny in favor of following AJ's crying and eating Clementine if she's allowed to get too close.
I was just thinking about season one.
CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR TWD S1... YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!
Y'know at the beginning, how you hear … morethe voice messages left on the phone at Clem's house?
On the second one, Diana mentions needing to go back to the hospital to see Ed. And on the next message, you hear what sounds like her dying, Ed would already be dead at this point. (Maybe Ed turned and bit her?)
Anyway, at the end of episode 5, before Lee's death, you see both of her parents as Walkers... OUTSIDE THE MARSH HOUSE. If they died at the hospital (or Ed would've died there, at least) then how did they get to the Marsh House?
Just a thought I had. Let me know what you think.
Like DabigRG said, I believe they have very slight brain functioning to where they can have primitive uses and go by instinct, so I believe Diana stuck with Ed, and then he turned and got her, and she just turned with him eventually. Or maybe she was infected a day or so later than Ed, who knows.
(Also you don't need to warn use about season 1 spoilers, not even season 2 or 3 spoilers, it's all right.
I was just thinking about season one.
CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS FOR TWD S1... YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!
Y'know at the beginning, how you hear … morethe voice messages left on the phone at Clem's house?
On the second one, Diana mentions needing to go back to the hospital to see Ed. And on the next message, you hear what sounds like her dying, Ed would already be dead at this point. (Maybe Ed turned and bit her?)
Anyway, at the end of episode 5, before Lee's death, you see both of her parents as Walkers... OUTSIDE THE MARSH HOUSE. If they died at the hospital (or Ed would've died there, at least) then how did they get to the Marsh House?
Just a thought I had. Let me know what you think.
About my "moral compass", it's 100% omitted when I think about these sick fucks, I sometimes think about them choking on blood, grabbing a k… morenife, then cutting several lacerations into them, or in general just deep; revolting hate for these people. I have no fucking idea why is pisses me off so much (possibly it's just mentally anguishing of the mere notion), but it does, and every single one of them doesn't deserve to breathe, fuck. I'm glad I've never had the honor of seeing the "art", I've developed methods to circumvent any of it thus far, thankfully. Also, PLEASE, don't think this forum is safe at all, every few weeks we get someone who direct messages most of the forum Clem "art", usually 2 - 3 pictures, but again, I've developed a way to circumvent this, and the first time I almost got caught. I don't even browse other threads than this one because I've heard/seen disgusting shit in the past, there's fuckers who actually went out of the… [view original content]
Clem was ready to accept AJ's death and simply wanted to know if he suffered. David could have left it at that, there was really no reason for him to lie at that point.
I'm not sure I played 400 days more than once honestly, so sadly I didn't take my own screenshots of it. What is the "model fucking up" part though if you have one.
Does importing my save file into ANF actually take into account my choices, or just my season 2 ending?
I'm not getting many unique lines from Clem about "family" and such so I can't help but wonder if I should say fuck it and recreate my story to get better outcomes.
Kevin Bruner told me a while back that importing accounts for all your choices but as you can understand I don't believe a thing that guy says.
I can try to take a decent screenshot in a little while since I have all my playthroughs recorded, but basically there's always been this minor question of whether Wyatt has a neck tattoo or whether it is just a piece of his hair that looks out of place.
I'm not sure I played 400 days more than once honestly, so sadly I didn't take my own screenshots of it. What is the "model fucking up" part though if you have one.
Oh yeah, the questions you forget you even asked. Well, I've got time to kill, so here I go past me:
Was deliberately hyping Season 2 up with a fight for the sake of controversy was stupid?
Somewhat, though my attitude has changed both before and since ANF came out. The mistake was hyping up a fight between specific characters that either didn't happen or was shortchanged at the last minute.
Were you Team Luke or Team Kenny?
Team Luke. Cabin Group Ftw.
Had things gone down the way they probably should've, who would be on what Team?
This is my general rundown of the entire cast as of today:
Team Kenny: Matthew Sarita Walter Rebecca
Team Luke: Bonnie Pete Nick Carlos Arvo
Team Clementine(Aka Team IDK): Alvin(Probably Kenny, though he'd probably just out of concern for Rebecca and AJ) Sarah(Luke, but part of me thinks she'd be willing to side with Kenny under certain conditions) Carver(Sure, why not?) Troy(had Jane not killed him, he probably would've joined Luke's side to be with her) Reggie(Luke? Kinda hard to say, honestly) Jane(Luke, for some reason) AJ(Probably Kenny, but he likely doesn't care)
Who would win in the fight: Kenny or Luke?
Hard to say since the fight never happened. But unfortunately, Kenny was shown to have the most likely advantage.
Risky questions with repeats attached:
I'm reading someone's tumblr and amongst their reasons for disliking Luke is the notion that he ma… morey have been added to Season 2 fairly late in its initial conception. Do you think there may be some truth to this?
Was deliberately hyping Season 2 up with a fight for the sake of controversy was stupid?
Were you Team Luke or Team Kenny?
Had things gone down the way they probably should've, who would be on what Team?
Who would win in the fight: Kenny or Luke?
Super Strength: Larry Molly Michelle Carver S2Kenny Mike Jane Ava
Durability: Larry S2Kenny Carver
Flight: Lilly
Super Speed: Molly Sarah Arvo
Agility: Clementine Molly Jane
Healing: Katjaa
Telepathy: Clementine Carley Stranger Shel Sarah Carver
Transformation: Clementine Molly Luke Sarah Jane
Pyschokinesis: Doug Jane Arvo
Energy Manipulation: Clementine
Self-Sustanance: Kenny
I also wanted to do Lee, Ben, and Nick, but couldn't think of anything
I can try to take a decent screenshot in a little while since I have all my playthroughs recorded, but basically there's always been this mi… morenor question of whether Wyatt has a neck tattoo or whether it is just a piece of his hair that looks out of place.
Well, I can't clarify, haven't played episode 3 necessarily, but in the first two episodes it changes the first flashback and one line, but slightly. Clem's character doesn't change at all and it's made me detest this season more than anything else.
Does importing my save file into ANF actually take into account my choices, or just my season 2 ending?
I'm not getting many unique lines… more from Clem about "family" and such so I can't help but wonder if I should say fuck it and recreate my story to get better outcomes.
Kevin Bruner told me a while back that importing accounts for all your choices but as you can understand I don't believe a thing that guy says.
I'm don't have this in my screenshots, but I vaguely recall Bonnie responding by something like they barely made it, but isn't sure about the incoming horde this time around. I believe I selected this one time on a different play through.
Mhmm, I'm a prude when it comes to this series specifically, I find it revolting, and many others do, what a shocker! And yes, gore is okay, I got used to that a while ago after I browsed /b/ gore threads for the time being.
There's no law in this game, if you hadn't noticed, but for U.S. law it'd be regarded at manslaughter and Clementine would be in prison for life regardless.
If she can't go to prison for life, then if anything, she'd be in there for a LONG time. It's 100% Clem's fault that she killed Eli, and had full intent on doing so, prove me wrong, you can't.
Precisely, which is why they can't make her a non-playable character anymore as they exclude other personalities while doing so without good justification for them. Thanks for pointing the obvious out.
Hate to break it to you, but Clementine may not have been sentenced to life.
While there are many cases of pre-determined and meditated homocide that include 12-17 teenagers (Link to manslaughter victim, many teenagers that accidentally or kill in self defense do not always receive a life sentence.
Frankly, in Clementine's case... this wouldn't of happened if a zombie apocalypse wasn't around so, realistically, why bring it up? In all honesty, Clem is like the way she is because of the zombie apocalypse; after 2 years being practically alone, would you really be as caring as you were before after everyone you loved has died (3 different times?).
Overall, I think these are nitpicks, the model is understandable (Although I feel like having the jacket on as well would also be dangerous), however if you really wanted to be smart, you wouldn't wear a jacket at all since it's obviously not hot in the game, so, at least they cover her butt with the jacket.
If she can't go to prison for life, then if anything, she'd be in there for a LONG time. It's 100% Clem's fault that she killed Eli, and had full intent on doing so, prove me wrong, you can't.
Hate to break it to you, but Clementine may not have been sentenced to life.
We already covered that.
Frankly, in Clementine's case... this wouldn't of happened if a zombie apocalypse wasn't around so, realistically, why bring it up? In all honesty, Clem is like the way she is because of the zombie apocalypse; after 2 years being practically alone, would you really be as caring as you were before after everyone you loved has died (3 different times?).
Because, realistically, in this universe, she did murder someone, and her character in season 3 has been nearly a complete 180 in comparison to her previous personality, virtues, morality, and wise thinking (not in all aspects, but in many). I'm not responding to the rest of your argument as you haven't read my previous posts in this thread above.
Overall, I think these are nitpicks, the model is understandable (Although I feel like having the jacket on as well would also be dangerous), however if you really wanted to be smart, you wouldn't wear a jacket at all since it's obviously not hot in the game, so, at least they cover her butt with the jacket.
How is Clem murdering someone a "nitpick", that's something that completely contradicts her morality, and the evidence that she had intent on killing him is quite obvious, especially if you compare the season 2 screenshot's of "just keep shooting". Season 3 Clem didn't even bat an eye, which is weird, considering she's an opposite of my season 2 Clementine (and season 1 Clem). The point in her wearing a jacket is that it doesn't get snagged on something, and at night, she'll be warm. I live in Commiefornia sadly, and yes, it usually gets a lot colder at night so her wearing a jacket at all times would make sense regardless, also keep her protected from the sun better. If they were going to make her wear a short shirt though, they could have at least made it more appropriate, because now I can't even think of season 3 Clem without cringing, it just adds to her being out of character in a way, and even the most die hard Clem supporters agree with this (not all, but I've argued with many and they detest this as well, along with her model not being well aged from season 2 --> season 3).
Hate to break it to you, but Clementine may not have been sentenced to life.
While there are many cases of pre-determined and meditated h… moreomocide that include 12-17 teenagers (Link to manslaughter victim, many teenagers that accidentally or kill in self defense do not always receive a life sentence.
http://www.kctv5.com/story/17587020/teen-charged-with-manslaughter-in-texting-while-driving-case
Frankly, in Clementine's case... this wouldn't of happened if a zombie apocalypse wasn't around so, realistically, why bring it up? In all honesty, Clem is like the way she is because of the zombie apocalypse; after 2 years being practically alone, would you really be as caring as you were before after everyone you loved has died (3 different times?).
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I'm not defending Telltale's bad decision of making choices not matter, but it's purely for the story as to why she's the way she is. I still don't understand this argument... Just because she was morely tame 2 years back does not mean she'll be the same 2 years later, it's purely just not realistic... Was it wrong with what she did? Yeah... But the reason she seems dumber to you is mainly due to the fact that she isn't the playbale character and you don't make her decesions.
I'm almost sick of this whole movement for Clementine... listen Spodes, you know me, I love Clementine's character a lot... But she isn't real, so after a while, I stopped praising her, and I loved Episode 3 because of that, since I'm sure I would of hated it because Clementine wasn't in EVERY SINGLE frame. Freaking out about her clothing? Why, it was just the design they decided on, I highly doubt they believed it would have appealed to a bunch of pedophiles.
Frankly... The die hard Clem fans are getting out of control now; I was one, sure... But come on guys, I can see Clementine's flaws in Season 1/2, the model is simply just an update in engine, so of course she will look different now. If I was a giant fan of her... Then I understand, I just don't see the point of holding onto to all this grieve because of character models and attitudes over once chatacter that makes up 1/4th of the game.
Hate to break it to you, but Clementine may not have been sentenced to life.
We already covered that.
Frankly, in Clementine's… more case... this wouldn't of happened if a zombie apocalypse wasn't around so, realistically, why bring it up? In all honesty, Clem is like the way she is because of the zombie apocalypse; after 2 years being practically alone, would you really be as caring as you were before after everyone you loved has died (3 different times?).
Because, realistically, in this universe, she did murder someone, and her character in season 3 has been nearly a complete 180 in comparison to her previous personality, virtues, morality, and wise thinking (not in all aspects, but in many). I'm not responding to the rest of your argument as you haven't read my previous posts in this thread above.
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I'm not defending Telltale's bad decision of making choices not matter, but it's purely for the story as to why she's the way she is. I still don't understand this argument... Just because she was morely tame 2 years back does not mean she'll be the same 2 years later, it's purely just not realistic... Was it wrong with what she did? Yeah... But the reason she seems dumber to you is mainly due to the fact that she isn't the playbale character and you don't make her decesions.
Good, now that you don't understand this argument, I have no reason to respond back, because what you think is "realistic" or not is subjective, and to me and many others, her behavior is simply out of hand. Thanks for the insightful response :^).
I'm almost sick of this whole movement for Clementine... listen Spodes, you know me, I love Clementine's character a lot... But she isn't real, so after a while, I stopped praising her, and I loved Episode 3 because of that, since I'm sure I would of hated it because Clementine wasn't in EVERY SINGLE frame. Freaking out about her clothing? Why, it was just the design they decided on, I highly doubt they believed it would have appealed to a bunch of pedophiles.
I would've preferred if Clem wasn't in this season at all, and again, this is you, your opinion, I love Clementine's personality, character, and virtuous ideals which separated her from the average person in the apocalypse, and put a smile on my face. Also pedophiles has always been a thing regarding this community, and makes people who cared about her for two seasons feel awkward.
Frankly... The die hard Clem fans are getting out of control now; I was one, sure... But come on guys, I can see Clementine's flaws in Season 1/2, the model is simply just an update in engine, so of course she will look different now. If I was a giant fan of her... Then I understand, I just don't see the point of holding onto to all this grieve because of character models and attitudes over once chatacter that makes up 1/4th of the game.
The engine update was a bad choice, and I even preferred the art/comic style of season 2, I thought it looked very well-done while retaining it. Yes, Clem's appearance is a legitimate thing to complain about, and aging her is also important. Have you seen Telltale's season 3 promotions? It's all about Clementine, yet it goes to show they don't care about her necessarily. The character model isn't what I'm worried about most, it's her character, and objectively it's gone way down hill and flipped over since season 2, despite Clem suffering worse trauma in the past. So call me a die hard Clem fan, but I simply don't give much of a damn about most characters this season, besides Tripp and Javier moderately, his family, the group (Jesus is cool I guess though), they're all....boring, stale, lacking anything I find very interesting. Season 1 was probably the best in this regard, season 2 did okay (some cabin crew characters were a bit boring, but had depth), but season 3 I just don't care, so yes, I do care about Clementine the most in this series. It's been that way since season 1 (Lee cared about her the most too :^)), so try to see it from the other side. Plus I still don't know what you mean about the "Frankly... The die hard Clem fans are getting out of control now", as the ones I've seen never talk about what I do...in season 2 they pushed for a more "badass" Clementine despite her already having that sentiment (suturing her arm and getting shot in the shoulder; not complaining subsequently), and in season 3, they fucking love her no matter what, and I'm not going to lie, I used to like Clem in season 3 very much and tried damage controlling things like "uh--she's been on her o-own for 2 y-years! So that's why she's acting this way :^)." but I quit this forum, and deduced what I liked about her character, and her season 2 personality in mercy, kindness, morality, and other virtuous characteristics all made me appreciate TWDG season 1 and 2 much more, and made me realize season 3 Clem is simply not my Clementine, and acts very out of place, and then I noticed the model was a bit inaccurate as well, etc. So yes, I'm not a "die hard Clem fan" in the cliche sense where I condone every single thing she does purely off her name, but I do very much like her as a character in seasons 1 and 2, along with Lee and Kenny.
I'm not defending Telltale's bad decision of making choices not matter, but it's purely for the story as to why she's the way she is. I stil… morel don't understand this argument... Just because she was morely tame 2 years back does not mean she'll be the same 2 years later, it's purely just not realistic... Was it wrong with what she did? Yeah... But the reason she seems dumber to you is mainly due to the fact that she isn't the playbale character and you don't make her decesions.
I'm almost sick of this whole movement for Clementine... listen Spodes, you know me, I love Clementine's character a lot... But she isn't real, so after a while, I stopped praising her, and I loved Episode 3 because of that, since I'm sure I would of hated it because Clementine wasn't in EVERY SINGLE frame. Freaking out about her clothing? Why, it was just the design they decided on, I highly doubt they believed it would have appealed to a bunch of pedophiles.
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I'm not defending Telltale's bad decision of making choices not matter, but it's purely for the story as to why she's the way she is. I stil… morel don't understand this argument... Just because she was morely tame 2 years back does not mean she'll be the same 2 years later, it's purely just not realistic... Was it wrong with what she did? Yeah... But the reason she seems dumber to you is mainly due to the fact that she isn't the playbale character and you don't make her decesions.
Good, now that you don't understand this argument, I have no reason to respond back, because what you think is "realistic" or not is subjective, and to me and many others, her behavior is simply out of hand. Thanks for the insightful response :^).
I'm almost sick of this whole movement for Clementine... listen Spodes, you know me, I love Clementine's character a lot... But she isn't real, so after a while, I stopped praising her, and I loved Episode 3 becau… [view original content]
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I've heard that newer walkers retain some leftover traces of the consciousness of the original at first, allowing them to use thinking on the level of a monkey and cling/respond to things that remind them of who they used to be, hence things like a little girl still carrying her doll in a trailer, walkers using rocks to break windows, Diana and Ed sticking near each other in Savannah, and possibly Natasha ignoring Arvo and Kenny in favor of following AJ's crying and eating Clementine if she's allowed to get too close.
Maybe they simply followed the herd back there, if not leading the charge themselves.
Like DabigRG said, I believe they have very slight brain functioning to where they can have primitive uses and go by instinct, so I believe Diana stuck with Ed, and then he turned and got her, and she just turned with him eventually. Or maybe she was infected a day or so later than Ed, who knows.
(Also you don't need to warn use about season 1 spoilers, not even season 2 or 3 spoilers, it's all right.
Plot holes in a Telltale game. Surely you must be joking.
Did Wyatt have a tattoo on his neck or was it just his model fucking up? Does anyone have a picture of it from the game files?
It could be referring to her age in the flashback.
Yeah, pretty much. What a waste of screentime.
You're lucky that you've missed them so far
Clem was ready to accept AJ's death and simply wanted to know if he suffered. David could have left it at that, there was really no reason for him to lie at that point.
Hell yes I am, but after the first time I developed the habit to avoid this thankfully in general.
I love your profile picture, Divided. It's probably one of my favorite TWDG moments.
I'm not sure I played 400 days more than once honestly, so sadly I didn't take my own screenshots of it. What is the "model fucking up" part though if you have one.
Does importing my save file into ANF actually take into account my choices, or just my season 2 ending?
I'm not getting many unique lines from Clem about "family" and such so I can't help but wonder if I should say fuck it and recreate my story to get better outcomes.
Kevin Bruner told me a while back that importing accounts for all your choices but as you can understand I don't believe a thing that guy says.
I can try to take a decent screenshot in a little while since I have all my playthroughs recorded, but basically there's always been this minor question of whether Wyatt has a neck tattoo or whether it is just a piece of his hair that looks out of place.
Oh yeah, the questions you forget you even asked. Well, I've got time to kill, so here I go past me:
Somewhat, though my attitude has changed both before and since ANF came out. The mistake was hyping up a fight between specific characters that either didn't happen or was shortchanged at the last minute.
Team Luke. Cabin Group Ftw.
This is my general rundown of the entire cast as of today:
Team Kenny: Matthew Sarita Walter Rebecca
Team Luke: Bonnie Pete Nick Carlos Arvo
Team Clementine(Aka Team IDK): Alvin(Probably Kenny, though he'd probably just out of concern for Rebecca and AJ) Sarah(Luke, but part of me thinks she'd be willing to side with Kenny under certain conditions) Carver(Sure, why not?) Troy(had Jane not killed him, he probably would've joined Luke's side to be with her) Reggie(Luke? Kinda hard to say, honestly) Jane(Luke, for some reason) AJ(Probably Kenny, but he likely doesn't care)
Hard to say since the fight never happened. But unfortunately, Kenny was shown to have the most likely advantage.
Might as well throw in a few ideas myself, with some nods to my post on RPG classes
Super Strength: Larry Molly Michelle Carver S2Kenny Mike Jane Ava
Durability: Larry S2Kenny Carver
Flight: Lilly
Super Speed: Molly Sarah Arvo
Agility: Clementine Molly Jane
Healing: Katjaa
Telepathy: Clementine Carley Stranger Shel Sarah Carver
Transformation: Clementine Molly Luke Sarah Jane
Pyschokinesis: Doug Jane Arvo
Energy Manipulation: Clementine
Self-Sustanance: Kenny
I also wanted to do Lee, Ben, and Nick, but couldn't think of anything
Does anyone know of a s2e3 playthrough where Clem says "Herds came through before?" to Bonnie?
I think it's just his hair. I'm not sure though.
EDIT: Yeah it's actually his hair. His head texture in 203:
Nice i appreciate you doing the research. Wyatt just lost 152 cool points
Mods plz put this double post out of its misery
Well, I can't clarify, haven't played episode 3 necessarily, but in the first two episodes it changes the first flashback and one line, but slightly. Clem's character doesn't change at all and it's made me detest this season more than anything else.
I'm don't have this in my screenshots, but I vaguely recall Bonnie responding by something like they barely made it, but isn't sure about the incoming horde this time around. I believe I selected this one time on a different play through.
That's terrifying.
How'd he get "cool" in the first place?
I just wasn't sure if that was the correct word...
clementine was a blank slate during season 2
and here we watch you destroy any credibility you had left
13 year olds don't go to prison for life for manslaughter, that's even less civil than the world of the walking dead
Hahaha, oh you're one to talk, getting horny over TWDG. Again, I browsed /b/, when it was somewhat decent. Please, stay on Reddit.
If she can't go to prison for life, then if anything, she'd be in there for a LONG time. It's 100% Clem's fault that she killed Eli, and had full intent on doing so, prove me wrong, you can't.
Precisely, which is why they can't make her a non-playable character anymore as they exclude other personalities while doing so without good justification for them. Thanks for pointing the obvious out.
Hate to break it to you, but Clementine may not have been sentenced to life.
While there are many cases of pre-determined and meditated homocide that include 12-17 teenagers (Link to manslaughter victim, many teenagers that accidentally or kill in self defense do not always receive a life sentence.
http://www.kctv5.com/story/17587020/teen-charged-with-manslaughter-in-texting-while-driving-case
Frankly, in Clementine's case... this wouldn't of happened if a zombie apocalypse wasn't around so, realistically, why bring it up? In all honesty, Clem is like the way she is because of the zombie apocalypse; after 2 years being practically alone, would you really be as caring as you were before after everyone you loved has died (3 different times?).
Overall, I think these are nitpicks, the model is understandable (Although I feel like having the jacket on as well would also be dangerous), however if you really wanted to be smart, you wouldn't wear a jacket at all since it's obviously not hot in the game, so, at least they cover her butt with the jacket.
We already covered that.
Because, realistically, in this universe, she did murder someone, and her character in season 3 has been nearly a complete 180 in comparison to her previous personality, virtues, morality, and wise thinking (not in all aspects, but in many). I'm not responding to the rest of your argument as you haven't read my previous posts in this thread above.
How is Clem murdering someone a "nitpick", that's something that completely contradicts her morality, and the evidence that she had intent on killing him is quite obvious, especially if you compare the season 2 screenshot's of "just keep shooting". Season 3 Clem didn't even bat an eye, which is weird, considering she's an opposite of my season 2 Clementine (and season 1 Clem). The point in her wearing a jacket is that it doesn't get snagged on something, and at night, she'll be warm. I live in Commiefornia sadly, and yes, it usually gets a lot colder at night so her wearing a jacket at all times would make sense regardless, also keep her protected from the sun better. If they were going to make her wear a short shirt though, they could have at least made it more appropriate, because now I can't even think of season 3 Clem without cringing, it just adds to her being out of character in a way, and even the most die hard Clem supporters agree with this (not all, but I've argued with many and they detest this as well, along with her model not being well aged from season 2 --> season 3).
How does Rebecca react in s2e4 when you return to camp if you saved Sarah and Nick is already dead?
I'm not defending Telltale's bad decision of making choices not matter, but it's purely for the story as to why she's the way she is. I still don't understand this argument... Just because she was morely tame 2 years back does not mean she'll be the same 2 years later, it's purely just not realistic... Was it wrong with what she did? Yeah... But the reason she seems dumber to you is mainly due to the fact that she isn't the playbale character and you don't make her decesions.
I'm almost sick of this whole movement for Clementine... listen Spodes, you know me, I love Clementine's character a lot... But she isn't real, so after a while, I stopped praising her, and I loved Episode 3 because of that, since I'm sure I would of hated it because Clementine wasn't in EVERY SINGLE frame. Freaking out about her clothing? Why, it was just the design they decided on, I highly doubt they believed it would have appealed to a bunch of pedophiles.
Frankly... The die hard Clem fans are getting out of control now; I was one, sure... But come on guys, I can see Clementine's flaws in Season 1/2, the model is simply just an update in engine, so of course she will look different now. If I was a giant fan of her... Then I understand, I just don't see the point of holding onto to all this grieve because of character models and attitudes over once chatacter that makes up 1/4th of the game.
Good, now that you don't understand this argument, I have no reason to respond back, because what you think is "realistic" or not is subjective, and to me and many others, her behavior is simply out of hand. Thanks for the insightful response :^).
I would've preferred if Clem wasn't in this season at all, and again, this is you, your opinion, I love Clementine's personality, character, and virtuous ideals which separated her from the average person in the apocalypse, and put a smile on my face. Also pedophiles has always been a thing regarding this community, and makes people who cared about her for two seasons feel awkward.
The engine update was a bad choice, and I even preferred the art/comic style of season 2, I thought it looked very well-done while retaining it. Yes, Clem's appearance is a legitimate thing to complain about, and aging her is also important. Have you seen Telltale's season 3 promotions? It's all about Clementine, yet it goes to show they don't care about her necessarily. The character model isn't what I'm worried about most, it's her character, and objectively it's gone way down hill and flipped over since season 2, despite Clem suffering worse trauma in the past. So call me a die hard Clem fan, but I simply don't give much of a damn about most characters this season, besides Tripp and Javier moderately, his family, the group (Jesus is cool I guess though), they're all....boring, stale, lacking anything I find very interesting. Season 1 was probably the best in this regard, season 2 did okay (some cabin crew characters were a bit boring, but had depth), but season 3 I just don't care, so yes, I do care about Clementine the most in this series. It's been that way since season 1 (Lee cared about her the most too :^)), so try to see it from the other side. Plus I still don't know what you mean about the "Frankly... The die hard Clem fans are getting out of control now", as the ones I've seen never talk about what I do...in season 2 they pushed for a more "badass" Clementine despite her already having that sentiment (suturing her arm and getting shot in the shoulder; not complaining subsequently), and in season 3, they fucking love her no matter what, and I'm not going to lie, I used to like Clem in season 3 very much and tried damage controlling things like "uh--she's been on her o-own for 2 y-years! So that's why she's acting this way :^)." but I quit this forum, and deduced what I liked about her character, and her season 2 personality in mercy, kindness, morality, and other virtuous characteristics all made me appreciate TWDG season 1 and 2 much more, and made me realize season 3 Clem is simply not my Clementine, and acts very out of place, and then I noticed the model was a bit inaccurate as well, etc. So yes, I'm not a "die hard Clem fan" in the cliche sense where I condone every single thing she does purely off her name, but I do very much like her as a character in seasons 1 and 2, along with Lee and Kenny.
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Maybe an old friend, but that's not related to this.
https://imgur.com/a/uNObY
Made a quick album, after Luke tells Rebecca, you can hear her crying. So I think she reacts the same?
I meant the scenario where Nick died in episode 2