I consider the chicken I am eating right now as something that was more of a living feeling thing than a little blob in someone's uterus. Re… moreally late into a pregnancy I can understand the argument, early however, yes it absolutely baffles me. Ok no more I'm not on this site for political arguments!
Yes it is killing. It is alive. It metabolizes and grows and has a heartbeat. So it's not just a "blob", it is a developing human that is already alive.
IT'S NOT KILLING! IT'S NOT ALIVE! IT'S A FUCKING BLOBBY THING THAT IS NOT ALIVE!
Don't get me wrong, i have nothing against babies. but i… more've seen a lot of people saying that they are "killing" a human being, when the baby isn't even alive (at least in the early stage of pregnancy).
Still , i think that a mother has to choose weather to have a baby or not. Imagine that she does not wants to have the baby and forcer to, then whe could give it to an orphanage, or she could not love him, hell, she may not even have the money to give him a propper life
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Not really. Biologically speaking in regards to what is a new human life a fertilized egg fits the bill, sperm and ovum do not. Without intervention and under normal circumstances a developing fetus will grow into a 25 year old college graduate or what have you. Without intervention and under normal circumstances a sperm will not do that.
There are distinct differences between a sperm and a growing fetus. There are differences between an embryo, growing fetus, and baby, but they are much more nuanced and, often, quite arbitrary.
I support it. A lot of people here are saying that it's wrong, but honestly, is it your choice? No, it's the pregnant person's choice, and who are you to tell them what's right and what's wrong? Are you the arbiter of what's morally just in this world?
Here's something that I've previously written up to copy-paste on all discussions of abortion:
What about women that were raped? What about women dying in the birthing process? What about women that can't afford the cost of children? What about women that still got pregnant even though they used contraception, considering contraception isn't 100% accurate? Or what about the fact that embryos don't have thoughts or feelings? They're not babies. Their gender isn't even chosen yet. It isn't murder, it's the woman's body and whatever her reason for having an abortion is, it is her choice overall. She's the one going to be stuck with the physical, emotional, and mental weights of having a child.
I like it how pro-life use "your mother could've aborted you" as an argument. If my mother aborted me, I simply wouldn't exist, so what's the problem? I never asked my parents to give birth to me. They decided so.
Pro-"choice" is the most hypocritical position I've ever heard of. It's easy to be pro-"choice" because your mother "chose" not to murder yo… moreu, which she had a legal right to do as long as you were in her belly. Let's get rid of this "choice" crap and admit that abortion is legalized murder of a baby.
I support pro-choice. If I ever decide to have an abortion for some reason, I should have a right to do it. However, abortion is a very serious procedure that has major consequences to a woman's body and I'm absolutely against women who prefer to make an abortion instead of using protection. It's utterly stupid and reckless. You need to think twice before an abortion and try to avoid it. But when it comes to it and the woman is 100% sure, she mustn't be under pressure of society. It's her choice and her life.
Plus, the solutions some pro-life suggest are just meaningless. Banning abortions, really? You do realise that it'll only cause illegal abortions that are extremely dangerous and might lead to death, right? If you really want to decrease the amount of abortions, try to support women in hard situations when they lose enough hope to make an abortion.
women who prefer to make an abortion instead of using protection
no one uses abortion like that
"Hey have you got a condom?"
"No I just wait to see if I get pregnant then go through the lengthy and potentially costly process of organising a abortion while I become a hormonal wreck of acne, emotion and nausea " - literally no one, youve been reading to much pro life propaganda
I support pro-choice. If I ever decide to have an abortion for some reason, I should have a right to do it. However, abortion is a very seri… moreous procedure that has major consequences to a woman's body and I'm absolutely against women who prefer to make an abortion instead of using protection. It's utterly stupid and reckless. You need to think twice before an abortion and try to avoid it. But when it comes to it and the woman is 100% sure, she mustn't be under pressure of society. It's her choice and her life.
Plus, the solutions some pro-life suggest are just meaningless. Banning abortions, really? You do realise that it'll only cause illegal abortions that are extremely dangerous and might lead to death, right? If you really want to decrease the amount of abortions, try to support women in hard situations when they lose enough hope to make an abortion.
women who prefer to make an abortion instead of using protection
no one uses abortion like that
"Hey have you got a condom?"
"… moreNo I just wait to see if I get pregnant then go through the lengthy and potentially costly process of organising a abortion while I become a hormonal wreck of acne, emotion and nausea " - literally no one, youve been reading to much pro life propaganda
Not really. Biologically speaking in regards to what is a new human life a fertilized egg fits the bill, sperm and ovum do not. Without inte… morervention and under normal circumstances a developing fetus will grow into a 25 year old college graduate or what have you. Without intervention and under normal circumstances a sperm will not do that.
There are distinct differences between a sperm and a growing fetus. There are differences between an embryo, growing fetus, and baby, but they are much more nuanced and, often, quite arbitrary.
Not really. Biologically speaking in regards to what is a new human life a fertilized egg fits the bill, sperm and ovum do not. Without inte… morervention and under normal circumstances a developing fetus will grow into a 25 year old college graduate or what have you. Without intervention and under normal circumstances a sperm will not do that.
There are distinct differences between a sperm and a growing fetus. There are differences between an embryo, growing fetus, and baby, but they are much more nuanced and, often, quite arbitrary.
Not really. Biologically speaking in regards to what is a new human life a fertilized egg fits the bill, sperm and ovum do not. Without inte… morervention and under normal circumstances a developing fetus will grow into a 25 year old college graduate or what have you. Without intervention and under normal circumstances a sperm will not do that.
There are distinct differences between a sperm and a growing fetus. There are differences between an embryo, growing fetus, and baby, but they are much more nuanced and, often, quite arbitrary.
Not really. Biologically speaking in regards to what is a new human life a fertilized egg fits the bill, sperm and ovum do not. Without inte… morervention and under normal circumstances a developing fetus will grow into a 25 year old college graduate or what have you. Without intervention and under normal circumstances a sperm will not do that.
There are distinct differences between a sperm and a growing fetus. There are differences between an embryo, growing fetus, and baby, but they are much more nuanced and, often, quite arbitrary.
Not really. Biologically speaking in regards to what is a new human life a fertilized egg fits the bill, sperm and ovum do not. Without inte… morervention and under normal circumstances a developing fetus will grow into a 25 year old college graduate or what have you. Without intervention and under normal circumstances a sperm will not do that.
There are distinct differences between a sperm and a growing fetus. There are differences between an embryo, growing fetus, and baby, but they are much more nuanced and, often, quite arbitrary.
Let the people have their choice. It's really just that easy.
It is problematic indeed, because it is basically murder (because the unborn child is alive, or at least will/would be), but the mother will have a reason for her choice. And that reason has to be respected, otherwise we can not call ourselves a tolerant society.
Actually, it isn't. An embryo is not a baby nor a human being. It's just a bunch of cells that evolved from a sperm and an egg and will eventually evolve into a fetus.
Actually, it isn't. An embryo is not a baby nor a human being. It's just a bunch of cells that evolved from a sperm and an egg and will eventually evolve into a fetus.
Why not? I'm not fake lmao. I know someone who was too stupid to not use protection and she got pregnant. As soon as she found out she was pregnant, she got an abortion.
Yes it is killing. It is alive. It metabolizes and grows and has a heartbeat. So it's not just a "blob", it is a developing human that is already alive.
I like it how pro-life use "your mother could've aborted you" as an argument. If my mother aborted me, I simply wouldn't exist, so what's the problem? I never asked my parents to give birth to me. They decided so.
Actually, it isn't. An embryo is not a baby nor a human being. It's just a bunch of cells that evolved from a sperm and an egg and will eventually evolve into a fetus.
One that can't feel, think, see, hear, anything?
Yet.
Edit- Hypothetically, say you have a newborn baby that is born brain dead, … morebut in only 2 minutes brain activity will assuredly start up and he will continue to grow and develope like any other newborn. Would it be acceptable to kill him?
Grant me that the mother would ABSOLUTELY die, then yes, in this scenario under these circumstances, I would say it is entirely up to the mo… morether. A life would be lost either way. There is no right or wrong choice in this situation.
Were you going somewhere with this? Do you disagree with anything?
Grant me that the mother would ABSOLUTELY die, then yes, in this scenario under these circumstances, I would say it is entirely up to the mo… morether. A life would be lost either way. There is no right or wrong choice in this situation.
Were you going somewhere with this? Do you disagree with anything?
I just want to make sure the point was made thoroughly, this baby is brain dead for the time being. It doesn't think, feel, see, hear, dream, or anything of the sort. You would still argue you shouldn't kill the baby?
You're adding more than is needed.
Of course you wouldn't kill a baby.
I just want to make sure the point was made thoroughly,… more this baby is brain dead for the time being. It doesn't think, feel, see, hear, dream, or anything of the sort. You would still argue you shouldn't kill the baby?
I said almost.
It's to show the absurdity to see them as human grown I made this Comment, I don't really think sperm and embryon are totally the same.
EDIT: First time and last time I use my phone to respond.
Hypothetically, say you have a newborn baby that is born brain dead, but in only 2 minutes brain activity will assuredly start up and he will continue to grow and develop like any other newborn. Would it be acceptable to kill him?
"Pro-"choice" is the most hypocritical position I've ever heard of. It's easy to be pro-"choice" because your mother "chose" not to murder you, which she had a legal right to do as long as you were in her belly. Let's get rid of this "choice" crap and admit that abortion is legalized murder of a baby."
Pro-"choice" is the most hypocritical position I've ever heard of. It's easy to be pro-"choice" because your mother "chose" not to murder yo… moreu, which she had a legal right to do as long as you were in her belly. Let's get rid of this "choice" crap and admit that abortion is legalized murder of a baby.
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Killing a chicken to eat and killing a developing human are two very different things, but okay.
Baby, embryo, human, it doesn't matter. It's still killing a living thing that is inside of you
Yes it is killing. It is alive. It metabolizes and grows and has a heartbeat. So it's not just a "blob", it is a developing human that is already alive.
Stahp
Not really. Biologically speaking in regards to what is a new human life a fertilized egg fits the bill, sperm and ovum do not. Without intervention and under normal circumstances a developing fetus will grow into a 25 year old college graduate or what have you. Without intervention and under normal circumstances a sperm will not do that.
There are distinct differences between a sperm and a growing fetus. There are differences between an embryo, growing fetus, and baby, but they are much more nuanced and, often, quite arbitrary.
I support it. A lot of people here are saying that it's wrong, but honestly, is it your choice? No, it's the pregnant person's choice, and who are you to tell them what's right and what's wrong? Are you the arbiter of what's morally just in this world?
Here's something that I've previously written up to copy-paste on all discussions of abortion:
What about women that were raped? What about women dying in the birthing process? What about women that can't afford the cost of children? What about women that still got pregnant even though they used contraception, considering contraception isn't 100% accurate? Or what about the fact that embryos don't have thoughts or feelings? They're not babies. Their gender isn't even chosen yet. It isn't murder, it's the woman's body and whatever her reason for having an abortion is, it is her choice overall. She's the one going to be stuck with the physical, emotional, and mental weights of having a child.
My body my choice. Noone else's period.
I like it how pro-life use "your mother could've aborted you" as an argument. If my mother aborted me, I simply wouldn't exist, so what's the problem? I never asked my parents to give birth to me. They decided so.
I support pro-choice. If I ever decide to have an abortion for some reason, I should have a right to do it. However, abortion is a very serious procedure that has major consequences to a woman's body and I'm absolutely against women who prefer to make an abortion instead of using protection. It's utterly stupid and reckless. You need to think twice before an abortion and try to avoid it. But when it comes to it and the woman is 100% sure, she mustn't be under pressure of society. It's her choice and her life.
Plus, the solutions some pro-life suggest are just meaningless. Banning abortions, really? You do realise that it'll only cause illegal abortions that are extremely dangerous and might lead to death, right? If you really want to decrease the amount of abortions, try to support women in hard situations when they lose enough hope to make an abortion.
no one uses abortion like that
"Hey have you got a condom?"
"No I just wait to see if I get pregnant then go through the lengthy and potentially costly process of organising a abortion while I become a hormonal wreck of acne, emotion and nausea " - literally no one, youve been reading to much pro life propaganda
Actually, I know someone who did just what you described.
I said almost.
It's to show the absurdity to see them as human grown I made this Comment, I don't really think sperm and embryon are totally the same.
I said almost.
It's to show the absurdity to see them as human grown I made this Comment, I don't really think sperm and embryon are totally the same.
I said almost.
It's to show the absurdity to see them as human grown I made this Comment, I don't really think sperm and embryon are totally the same.
I said almost.
It's to show the absurdity to see them as human grown I made this Comment, I don't really think sperm and embryon are totally the same.
I said almost.
It's to show the absurdity to see them as human grown I made this Comment, I don't really think sperm and embryon are totally the same.
EDIT: First time and last time I use my phone to respond.
I dont believe you
Let the people have their choice. It's really just that easy.
It is problematic indeed, because it is basically murder (because the unborn child is alive, or at least will/would be), but the mother will have a reason for her choice. And that reason has to be respected, otherwise we can not call ourselves a tolerant society.
Actually, it isn't. An embryo is not a baby nor a human being. It's just a bunch of cells that evolved from a sperm and an egg and will eventually evolve into a fetus.
Yes it is. It doesn't matter what word you use, it's still killing a living thing.
Why not? I'm not fake lmao. I know someone who was too stupid to not use protection and she got pregnant. As soon as she found out she was pregnant, she got an abortion.
I said "early stage of pregnancy". DUH
Buddy, the woman won't know that she's pregnant until the baby is actually alive with a heartbeat. So you still don't have an argument.
Depends on the circumstances such as rape and the condition of the woman while being pregnant.
exactly lmao such a fucking stupid argument.
Damn, I'd hate it if someone else decided I am currently just a "cluster of cells" and discarded me.
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But you aren't.
The thing is, there's a difference between a baby and an embryo. Of course you wouldn't kill a baby. I mean, unless you're...anyway...
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A grown woman or a fetus/embryo, you really think there isn't a more important life to save there?
I'd consider a grown woman more important than a fetus, let alone an embryo.
You're adding more than is needed.
I just want to make sure the point was made thoroughly, this baby is brain dead for the time being. It doesn't think, feel, see, hear, dream, or anything of the sort. You would still argue you shouldn't kill the baby?
If a baby is stillborn, the baby is stillborn. Nothing you really can do about that.
Yes, but you saying almost doesn't make it nearly as almost as you want it to.
There isn't nearly as much absurdity between the two new human lives vs the new human life and the lone sperm.
And Jesus, was that the internet equivalent of a major stutter?
. . . that's not what we're talking about.
A very intelligent and convincing rebuttal.
THANK YOU!
"Pro-"choice" is the most hypocritical position I've ever heard of. It's easy to be pro-"choice" because your mother "chose" not to murder you, which she had a legal right to do as long as you were in her belly. Let's get rid of this "choice" crap and admit that abortion is legalized murder of a baby."
Amen. Aborting a baby is the same as murder.
Amen!