Why Is There So Much Animosity Towards Violet?

1234689

Comments

  • I don't see a problem with a relationship working like that.

    CapnJay posted: »

    Same reason most violet fans probably like her. I want to save her. To help her heal. To be her hero. Relationships may not / should not work like that but it's a romantic idea.

  • Nothing's bothering me though, I'm only here to discuss, not actually for arguing.
    And you're right there are like 3 episodes more and I hope she'll grow on you soon and you can understand her better.

    GamerLady posted: »

    We are different people, we see things differently. I don't dislike her just to dislike her, your just unable to accept anyone disliking a c

  • edited August 2018

    Louis is still liked despite playing with a corpse in front of a child but violet gets animosity for asking a morbid question and getting offended if clem picks her. And when clem says never to louis have you ever had a bf question he gets upset. So I can say apparently louis thinks clem is gay and is upset about her being gay from his reaction to his question being given that answer. And people call violet edgy and an edged lord? what is louis for playing with a corpse then? a supreme edge lord?

    GamerLady posted: »

    I think everyone admits that walking pinata was stupid as all hell. But the fact that some people still like him over Violet, even after that, says something.

  • edited August 2018

    Okay. Its perfectly reasonably for you to see it that way, it's a good point. Still doesn't make a persons reasons for disliking her any less legitimate. Just as people have legitimate reasons for disliking Luis. Zombie pinata being the forefront.
    People probably can get passed it because its likely the only reason they could find to dislike Luis vs they found several to dislike about Violet. Just as you obviously found lots of reasons to dislike Luis but none for Violet.

    Scythenger posted: »

    Louis is still liked despite playing with a corpse in front of a child but violet gets animosity for asking a morbid question and getting of

  • Well I didn't know about "your point" because you weren't talking with me and I haven't even noticed your previous comments.

    well if that's the case maybe you should get more insight on said person's discussion before jumping in.

    So asking about "who's going to die first" made her an unlikeable character in your eyes and trying to damper the mood...Hm. They are all in zombie apocalypse; always witnessing death and such stuff like that and stuff like even worse than that question. So I can't really see what's wrong with it. Telltale also made a good job for foreshadowing things too as Marlon died.

    and what kind of comparison are you even trying to make? Oh but there are worse things that happen than the question so its alright to ask it. I don't see how it makes that question any less edgy and morbid or violet less of a bitch, because she gets upset if you think she is going to die for asking the stupid question in the first place.

    If we're gonna grasp at straws, then let's get back to the hunting scene; where Louis wanted to play walker pinata while his group was literally starving, and little kid (AJ) was watching him. Do you find it wrong too? So technically you shouldn't like Louis too.

    Um how am I grasping at straws exactly? And I don't see how relieving stress is necessarily a bad thing or how it compares in question to the thing violet asked , on one hand the walker pinata thing was meant to help Clementine and Aj understand and appreciate what she had, right at that moment. The question violet asked served nothing more than to make everyone else around her uncomfortable, not really a good comparison.

    Well I didn't know about "your point" because you weren't talking with me and I haven't even noticed your previous comments. So asking ab

  • edited August 2018

    Several reasons for disliking her? such as? and I can find things to dislike violet for. And of course it doesn't but to say she's edgy for asking a morbid question but not call louis edgy makes no sense to me. I guess she's edgy and he's more edgy then.

    GamerLady posted: »

    Okay. Its perfectly reasonably for you to see it that way, it's a good point. Still doesn't make a persons reasons for disliking her any les

  • The definition of edgy is having sharp or pointed corners, or being irritable, or being unconventional.
    this applies way more to violet than louis.

    Scythenger posted: »

    Several reasons for disliking her? such as? and I can find things to dislike violet for. And of course it doesn't but to say she's edgy for

  • edited August 2018

    He played with a corpse how does it apply more to violet than louis? and louis plays with the corpse in front of aj. And louis contributes to nothing as well. Violet at least catches something to eat and she doesn't fool around. And violet didn't ask the question when aj was around.

    The definition of edgy is having sharp or pointed corners, or being irritable, or being unconventional. this applies way more to violet than louis.

  • She just looks and comes off a little edgy. The way she's dressed, her "ugh, i'm soooo annoyed" kind of attitude. Her facial expression.

    Scythenger posted: »

    He played with a corpse how does it apply more to violet than louis? and louis plays with the corpse in front of aj. And louis contributes t

  • I don't know I just find that question Violet asks about who's going to die first, way more edgy than what louis did. Mainly because at least louis was trying to prove a point and had an underlying message in playing with the dead corpse.

    Scythenger posted: »

    He played with a corpse how does it apply more to violet than louis? and louis plays with the corpse in front of aj. And louis contributes t

  • So that's how you see it. Fair enough.

    I don't know I just find that question Violet asks about who's going to die first, way more edgy than what louis did. Mainly because at least louis was trying to prove a point and had an underlying message in playing with the dead corpse.

  • edited August 2018

    Then take into consideration the intent behind both scenario's I guess? Luis was being dumb, yes, but his intention was to have fun with Clem. Everyone has fun in different ways and while it wasn't appropriate that's how he has fun. He wasn't trying to be hostile or get a rise from Clem, it was literally him trying to show Clem a good time. He wanted Clem to understand him as someone who lives in the now because there's a chance he'll die to regret things if he doesn't. He also wanted to connect with her like Violet did, though differently.
    Now, I'm not going to say Violet's question was hostile but she put Clem in an awkward position and got upset when Clem said 'you.' If your going to ask a question like that you shouldn't be upset no matter the answer.
    So while a lot of people see no problem with the things Violet said and did some do.
    We're all different so we take things differently.

    Scythenger posted: »

    Several reasons for disliking her? such as? and I can find things to dislike violet for. And of course it doesn't but to say she's edgy for

  • edited August 2018

    Have fun by playing with a corpse with a kid joining or watching vs have fun by asking a morbid question and yeah violet did get upset but she wasn't hostile. Louis gets upset or heartbroken I believe which if that's the case that makes it worse for louis but if you actually do something productive by hunting with aasim instead of playing with a corpse with him while aj watches or I believe joins he gets one of those things which are both more messed up and one being even more messed up than the morbid question violet asks. And violet getting upset by you choosing her for her morbid question vs louis either getting heart broken or upset by clem not playing with a corpse with him and instead actually doing something productive. I wonder which is worse.

    GamerLady posted: »

    Then take into consideration the intent behind both scenario's I guess? Luis was being dumb, yes, but his intention was to have fun with Cle

  • edited August 2018

    I didn't say Violet was being hostile, in fact I said I wasn't going to say it was a hostile question. And yeah Luis gets heartbroken but he was very upfront about his interest in Clem vs. Violet who was trying to hide her interest. So his being upset is a tad bit more understanding, in my opinion. On top of that he wasn't annoyed with Clem, he was just sad for himself.
    Not to mention Clem doesn't have to hit the walker with Luis, she can ignore him and help Aasim. Luis isn't annoyed by this it only says 'he didn't know what to do about it.' And telltale could have given us an option to tell AJ that zombie pinata wasn't okay but they didn't so basically Clem doesn't care enough about it. Its a zombie and the apocalypse, he didn't take a human being and bash them. And they were once human but not every survivor is going to have the same values. For Luis that person is completely gone and its a mentality I agree with, I wouldn't do zombie pinata irl of course because I think its stupid and that a number of things could go wrong, but I had no issues killing the walker couple.
    So again it may have been stupid and morbid but Luis' intent wasn't and he didn't see it that way. Its part of what happens when growing up in apocalypse I guess. I also played a second time and decided to hit the zombie with Luis to see how bad it was, it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. I even got to say 'I feel like I wasted time and should've helped Aasim.'

    Scythenger posted: »

    Have fun by playing with a corpse with a kid joining or watching vs have fun by asking a morbid question and yeah violet did get upset but s

  • I was agreeing with you on the none hostile thing. And violet asked clem straight up and got upset by the answer but louis got upset because clem didn't hit the corpse with him.
    So I personally think that's worse than violet's morbid question and her upset reaction to a specific answer. Telltale didn't give clem an option to say she wasn't okay with violet's question.
    Despite the intent not being there it was still more morbid and It says louis was lonely if clem goes hunting with aasim instead of playing with a walker. So imo louis is the more morbid of the two.

    GamerLady posted: »

    I didn't say Violet was being hostile, in fact I said I wasn't going to say it was a hostile question. And yeah Luis gets heartbroken but he

  • edited August 2018

    He doesn't get upset at all if you don't hit the corpse with him. He doesn't even talk about it and all it says is 'he didn't know what to do.' That doesn't even really mean he felt lonely. Edit: Oh, never mind it does say he felt lonely, but that's not him being upset with Clem.
    And his intent matters in that scenario as that's probably how people got passed it is what I'm trying to say. Whether what he did was morbid or not.

    Scythenger posted: »

    I was agreeing with you on the none hostile thing. And violet asked clem straight up and got upset by the answer but louis got upset because

  • edited August 2018

    I think people assume she's going to be Jane 2.0 or something. I don't have a problem with her, she's a much welcome character to me. I like her a lot, she's the closest thing we have to a brooding goth type in the apocalypse. The universe knows I love me sum goth gurhlz, bruh! Heh.

    Violetine for Post-Apocalyptic POTUS.

  • edited August 2018

    I like Violet. I overlooked her rough exterior at first; I figured she had to get to know clementine. I am choosing for Clementine to have a relationship with Louis because I think he's a nice guy that's also attractive. I hope Clementine and Violet can be good friends. I think Louis will mature more after his friend died and me playing as Clementine will encourage it. I just want to add that I think Aasim likes her too because of the way he responded to AJ about to read the part about Clementine in his history book. I don't want to change Louis much, but I do wish he was a tad bit serious about life like Aasim.

  • LazyAlexLazyAlex Banned
    edited August 2018

    These discussions are so pointless. ''Boo-hoo, Louis is worse because he hit a dead corpse'' ''Boo-hoo, he asked the boyfriend question so he's more lonely and morbid''. ''Boo-hoo, Violet is worse because she gets offended if you pick her'' Jesus Christ dudes, grow up. Why is it necessary to try to prove that one side is worse than the other?

  • edited August 2018


    EDIT: Shit, I just realized I should've took a picture of the amount of new posts before I actually clicked!

  • edited August 2018

    To pass time until the rest of the episodes release is my guess.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    These discussions are so pointless. ''Boo-hoo, Louis is worse because he hit a dead corpse'' ''Boo-hoo, he asked the boyfriend question so h

  • Louis is worse because he hit a dead corpse

    When was this?

    LazyAlex posted: »

    These discussions are so pointless. ''Boo-hoo, Louis is worse because he hit a dead corpse'' ''Boo-hoo, he asked the boyfriend question so h

  • Yeah, probably, but I'm sure at least half of it is [also] holdover from the list I made a few pages ago.

    Eh, if there's anyone out there who hates her, probably it's because of these shipping issues. Louis fans, should I say? I seriously don't

  • Violet is just to much of a coward to go after what she wants.

    Woah, calm down Kate.

    ...Yeah, I made that joke.

    Violet is just to much of a coward to go after what she wants. she thinks she's slick by by being all depressing and trying to make clement

  • Violet is awesome

  • The zombie piñata thing

    Dex-Starr posted: »

    Louis is worse because he hit a dead corpse When was this?

  • My level of confusion is immeasurable. I haven't the faintest idea of what you're talking about.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    The zombie piñata thing

  • LazyAlexLazyAlex Banned
    edited August 2018

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=GgSDEeldEdU
    How did you forget about this?

  • I like Violet. I just don't ship her with Clem

    That's me with Louis. Or Gabe, for that matter.

    @DEMVIDEOGAMESAREGOOD1728 If that was the only moment of violets whining that you could find , then you haven't been paying much attention to her character.

    Which, to be fair, is kinda understandable.

    @GamerLady And I doubt anyone's reasoning for disliking Violet is because of shipping. That'd be like saying the only reason Violet shippers hate Luis is because their so desperate for Violet to be the one and only for Clem

    Hey, it's happened before.

    I like Violet. I just don't ship her with Clem. I don't think Violet has had enough time to get over Minnie yet and I also think Minnie (or

  • Because that's what some fans/shippers feel the need to do--find what reasons/"reasons" they can to "justify" a character being the best/worst.

    No matter how petty or pointless it might be.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    These discussions are so pointless. ''Boo-hoo, Louis is worse because he hit a dead corpse'' ''Boo-hoo, he asked the boyfriend question so h

  • Probably didn't go hunting.
    Which, to be fair, I didn't either.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=GgSDEeldEdU How did you forget about this?

  • Oh, that's right. I didn't take into consideration that the scene was exclusive to the hunting option, my brain just removed that choice from my mind for some reason

    DabigRG posted: »

    Probably didn't go hunting. Which, to be fair, I didn't either.

  • Probably cause the story feels like it flows better/fairer if you do so.

    LazyAlex posted: »

    Oh, that's right. I didn't take into consideration that the scene was exclusive to the hunting option, my brain just removed that choice from my mind for some reason

  • Because fishing feels more be like a normal scene where people try to work through issues and drama and zombie pinata reminds you this is twd

    DabigRG posted: »

    Probably cause the story feels like it flows better/fairer if you do so.

  • edited August 2018

    Uh, more like they utilized Louis quite a bit early on while including Violet sparsely(when I expected/dreaded it to be the opposite more or less) and thus the story overall feels like it gradually builds towards the drama of the climax when she is viewed as a significant factor.
    Regardless of whether you appeal to her or not.

    CapnJay posted: »

    Because fishing feels more be like a normal scene where people try to work through issues and drama and zombie pinata reminds you this is twd

  • Well she's not and could you stop using that slur?

    Interesting well maybe then i just didnt pay that much attention or didnt choose the right dialogue options but still its just the 1st ep,and as i said,in my game she's a b+++h FOR NOW

  • You clearly didn't spend time with her, because she clearly warms up to Clem quickly and develops an obvious crush on her.

    GamerLady posted: »

    We are different people, we see things differently. I don't dislike her just to dislike her, your just unable to accept anyone disliking a c

  • Yeah whatever, gabe B)

    DabigRG posted: »

    Violet is just to much of a coward to go after what she wants. Woah, calm down Kate. ...Yeah, I made that joke.

  • Pretty sure most people don't dislike Violet, most people went fishing with her and appealed to her going by the statistics.

  • edited August 2018

    Louis playing with a corpse and doing nothing productive and then getting lonely if clem doesn't play with the corpse with him but instead decides to do something productive says something about his character. And violet's morbid question and her getting upset pales in comparison to louis corpse play and how louis feels if clem doesn't play with the corpse with him.

    GamerLady posted: »

    He doesn't get upset at all if you don't hit the corpse with him. He doesn't even talk about it and all it says is 'he didn't know what to d

Sign in to comment in this discussion.