Really, all this talk of another season of Monkey Island was always just a little over optimistic to me. We were damn lucky that Tales happened, and especially with leadership of LucasArts changing hands, season 2 was a long shot to begin with. Now... I'm seriously worried whether or not Telltale's going to continue making games I actually want to play once The Devil's Playhouse is over. I'm willing to give Puzzle Agent and even Back to the Future a try, but Jurassic Park is just terribly uninteresting to me, and I fear that Telltale may end up being tempted to make too much use of the NBC license. Sure, great that they can use the NBC properties, but that doesn't mean that they have to, and I hope they realize that.
I know I've always been the first to speak in Telltale's defense up until now, but between the Jurassic Park game, the decreasing forum presence, and the massive delay with the Tales merchandise, my faith in them is starting to slip.
I'm with you on that, but at this point I'm doubting Telltale will be going back to Monkey Island at all.
You know, I don't know what to feel Jurassic Park has been quiet for 9 years, and the fan base isn't really present anymore, other than a few people here and there, but it's just a License like monkey Island, telltale wants to do these games, and even if thats the only license's they gave them, I doubt they will stop making adventure games.
You know, even before the announcements I had the thoughts of The Devil's Playhouse being the last season of episodic adventure games of Sam and Max franchise that TellTale designs. Not only this announcements make me think I'm actually right (since they have much more franchises to deal with now), but now I also believe that what I've been thinking can also be true for the other franchises as well. I mean, we may have unknowingly beaten the only Monkey Island game that was made by Telltale.
I mean, sure, we were able to see that some people with skills still care the franchises WE loved when we were kids (or kids at heart), but, well, they can't do the same thing over and over and I guess we should understand this too. Well, the CREATORS of those franchises could do the same thing over and over in the past because making a game was relatively easier. But now it requires the cooperational work of so many people and so many planning and stuff. I mean the repetition of some aspects don't bore one person it'll surely bore another one.
They should keep their materials fresh to be known by OTHER fanbases, too. So I think even if they abandon their franchises that they're known for, it's a good step for them. Even if I like those franchises.
I see your point, but there's still few things that suck as badly as the death of your favorite series or your favorite company going down a road you don't like.
I see your point, but there's still few things that suck as badly as the death of your favorite series or your favorite company going down a road you don't like.
There's no indication whatsoever that they will be going down that road any time soon.
I see your point, but there's still few things that suck as badly as the death of your favorite series or your favorite company going down a road you don't like.
Well, calling it quits after reaching the top is an effective way of keeping the quality at its best. I'd be proud to be playing the only game of one franchise over and over that's made by such a company that cares its franchises, rather than abusing them and milking their money.
It's not really going down a road. When you have the chance of animating loved characters and giving them new paths that YOU write, you also carry the risk of ruining the franchise up in one go. And continuing on that raises the risk even higher. I mean, look at the 4th Indy movie. Keeping the quality is and should always be the equavalent of raising the limits even higher for any other company.
Speaking of Indy, that one needs a good Telltale treatment, too.
Yep. Telltale is going down the road not taken, and Robert Frost is completely right that it will make all the difference- whether or not I continue to support Telltale Games.
I don't believe I've said anything to the effect of "oh no, making these games will ruin Telltale!" What I have said is more along the lines of "oh no, I might not like the games Telltale is about to start making!" I'm perfectly willing to give them a chance (well, maybe not Jurassic Park as of now, but I can be swayed if I like what I see as the game comes together), I freely admit that there's the possibility that these games will be awesome. I'm just not optimistic about it right now.
I don't believe I've said anything to the effect of "oh no, making these games will ruin Telltale!" What I have said is more along the lines of "oh no, I might not like the games Telltale is about to start making!" I'm perfectly willing to give them a chance (well, maybe not Jurassic Park as of now, but I can be swayed if I like what I see as the game comes together), I freely admit that there's the possibility that these games will be awesome. I'm just not optimistic about it right now.
You and other people are talking about it like Telltale has just announced that they will only be making games based on NBC properties from now on. This isn't the first time Telltale has done something that wasn't a cartoon comedy, they've got 3 CSI games under their belt already, did they abandon their other franchises when they announced those games? No.
They make "mainstream" games to widen their audience, not to edge out their "classic" franchises. I'd say it's worked quite well for them so far, wouldn't you?
You and other people are talking about it like Telltale has just announced that they will only be making games based on NBC properties from now on. This isn't the first time Telltale has done something that wasn't a cartoon comedy, they've got 3 CSI games under their belt already, did they abandon their other franchises when they announced those games? No.
Well, I still have my own doubt on this because CSI was only one franchise. Plus yeah, that title always seemed a little off near the, well, 'mainstream' ones.
Now there will be more. Meaning that the mainstream franchises can be overthrown by them.
You and other people are talking about it like Telltale has just announced that they will only be making games based on NBC properties from now on. This isn't the first time Telltale has done something that wasn't a cartoon comedy, they've got 3 CSI games under their belt already, did they abandon their other franchises when they announced those games? No.
They make "mainstream" games to widen their audience, not to edge out their "classic" franchises. I'd say it's worked quite well for them so far, wouldn't you?
CSI was a license for a single show. This is a deal to use multiple licenses, and my fear is that Telltale may be tempted to make too much use of it.
CSI was a license for a single show. This is a deal to use multiple licenses, and my fear is that Telltale may be tempted to make too much use of it.
The press release says they have license to Jurassic Park and Back to the Future, no more, no less.
Telltale Games, the leading independent digital publisher and developer of episodic interactive entertainment, today announced a multi-year, two-title video game development deal with Universal Partnerships & Licensing. Telltale Games has secured the rights to create video games based on two of Universal Pictures’ most popular intellectual properties, Back to the Future and Jurassic Park.
If that's all there is to it, then there's not too much for me to worry about. I hadn't seen the press release, so everything I'd heard about it was second hand, and things were bound to change in the retelling.
If that's all there is to it, then there's not too much for me to worry about. I hadn't seen the press release, so everything I'd heard about it was second hand, and things were bound to change in the retelling.
I don't believe that Telltale would abandon their older games. The fact that they have put so much work into 'The Devil's Playhouse' to make it so incredible is a comforting thing. If they were planning to forget about the games, then I doubt they would have put the effort into TDP that they have.
I'm also sure that we will one day see a ToMI season 2. Tales of Monkey Island is their highest selling game to date, and it's something that earned them a LOT of loyal customers and really put them on the map (more-so than S&M seasons 1&2). I think it would be silly to not continue the MI series/franchise, and Telltale aren't exactly a company made up of silly people.
The company is also composed of people who loved these games when they were designed by LucasArts as well as people who actually worked on the games at LucasArts (as you all know), they are as big of fans as all of us and I doubt they would turn their backs on these games.
This is exactly why I'm slightly worred that TTG haven't attempted to create a brand new IP. Not a single one. It could be seen as being lazy.
There's a lot of risk involved in creating a brand new IP. I guess that's why they've created the pilot program, so they can take a chance on creating something of their own - Puzzle Agent is a big step in that direction but it's doesn't go all the way.
I'd much prefer to get a new season of an existing series two or three years after the previous one so there isn't a constant stream of just a few series. The gap between season 2 & 3 of Sam & Max I feel was just about right.
I don't believe that Telltale would abandon their older games. The fact that they have put so much work into 'The Devil's Playhouse' to make it so incredible is a comforting thing. If they were planning to forget about the games, then I doubt they would have put the effort into TDP that they have.
I'm also sure that we will one day see a ToMI season 2. Tales of Monkey Island is their highest selling game to date, and it's something that earned them a LOT of loyal customers and really put them on the map (more-so than S&M seasons 1&2). I think it would be silly to not continue the MI series/franchise, and Telltale aren't exactly a company made up of silly people.
The company is also composed of people who loved these games when they were designed by LucasArts as well as people who actually worked on the games at LucasArts (as you all know), they are as big of fans as all of us and I doubt they would turn their backs on these games.
^This.
ToMI is their baby and I don't think they want to give it up, and the fact they left it in a cliff hanger you can't just stop from that.
ToMI is not going to end like MI2 did, TTG wouldn't do that to us.
I am sure TTG just want to expand and not being known as the company who made "that" game but rather "those" games. And they already have a fair amount under their name, but it's always nice to expand, and in the same time get more people to come to the site.
I mean I came to this page because of ToMI and after that I also got Sam & Max season 1 to 3, so people who like BttF and JP will come here and maybe see ToMI and Sam & Max (who like me have lived in a box all their life), and that way expand the fan base and sell more games.
I don't believe that Telltale would abandon their older games. The fact that they have put so much work into 'The Devil's Playhouse' to make it so incredible is a comforting thing. If they were planning to forget about the games, then I doubt they would have put the effort into TDP that they have.
Unless it's a grand finale. Of course, I don't really know what to think either way, I'm just playing devil's advocate. Or would that be devil's playmate?
I'm also sure that we will one day see a ToMI season 2. Tales of Monkey Island is their highest selling game to date, and it's something that earned them a LOT of loyal customers and really put them on the map (more-so than S&M seasons 1&2). I think it would be silly to not continue the MI series/franchise, and Telltale aren't exactly a company made up of silly people.
Two problems with this theory.
1. It's not entirely dependent on Telltale. If LucasArts decides not to give up the license again for whatever reason, Telltale's out of luck if they want to do another Monkey Island game.
2. What makes better business sense, making a new game from a classic adventure series that brings you new fans and sells better than anything you've done so far, or making a new game from a film franchise that brings you in more new fans and sells better than the other thing did? I don't know that Telltale would go this route or even that it would be this sort of dilemma (who knows how these will sell compared to Tales?), but it's a possibility that I'm acknowledging.
What makes better business sense, making a new game from a classic adventure series that brings you new fans and sells better than anything you've done so far, or making a new game from a film franchise that brings you in more new fans and sells better than the other thing did?
Unless Telltale are hypocritical morons (which they aren't), they aren't going to do exactly the thing that got them canned at LEC, i.e. passing up fan favorites in favor of piles of easy cash.
Passing up a cult classic for a mainstream classic is pretty different from canning the entire adventure games department in favor of nothing but Star Wars.
Passing up a cult classic for a mainstream classic is pretty different from canning the entire adventure games department in favor of nothing but Star Wars.
People are acting like that's what Telltale are going to do, since they announced they don't want to be confined to making textbook adventure games anymore, people assume their next game is going to be Halo 4 or something.
I'm honestly trying to ignore that aspect of it and focus on the licenses, because once I think about it, if Telltale stops making adventure games, the genre is going to be pretty much dead again. To me it's not about what they will be doing so much as what they won't be doing, both with the gameplay style and the licenses.
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I know I've always been the first to speak in Telltale's defense up until now, but between the Jurassic Park game, the decreasing forum presence, and the massive delay with the Tales merchandise, my faith in them is starting to slip.
You know, I don't know what to feel Jurassic Park has been quiet for 9 years, and the fan base isn't really present anymore, other than a few people here and there, but it's just a License like monkey Island, telltale wants to do these games, and even if thats the only license's they gave them, I doubt they will stop making adventure games.
I mean, sure, we were able to see that some people with skills still care the franchises WE loved when we were kids (or kids at heart), but, well, they can't do the same thing over and over and I guess we should understand this too. Well, the CREATORS of those franchises could do the same thing over and over in the past because making a game was relatively easier. But now it requires the cooperational work of so many people and so many planning and stuff. I mean the repetition of some aspects don't bore one person it'll surely bore another one.
They should keep their materials fresh to be known by OTHER fanbases, too. So I think even if they abandon their franchises that they're known for, it's a good step for them. Even if I like those franchises.
There's no indication whatsoever that they will be going down that road any time soon.
Well, calling it quits after reaching the top is an effective way of keeping the quality at its best. I'd be proud to be playing the only game of one franchise over and over that's made by such a company that cares its franchises, rather than abusing them and milking their money.
It's not really going down a road. When you have the chance of animating loved characters and giving them new paths that YOU write, you also carry the risk of ruining the franchise up in one go. And continuing on that raises the risk even higher. I mean, look at the 4th Indy movie. Keeping the quality is and should always be the equavalent of raising the limits even higher for any other company.
Speaking of Indy, that one needs a good Telltale treatment, too.
You and other people are talking about it like Telltale has just announced that they will only be making games based on NBC properties from now on. This isn't the first time Telltale has done something that wasn't a cartoon comedy, they've got 3 CSI games under their belt already, did they abandon their other franchises when they announced those games? No.
They make "mainstream" games to widen their audience, not to edge out their "classic" franchises. I'd say it's worked quite well for them so far, wouldn't you?
Well, I still have my own doubt on this because CSI was only one franchise. Plus yeah, that title always seemed a little off near the, well, 'mainstream' ones.
Now there will be more. Meaning that the mainstream franchises can be overthrown by them.
I still think it's a good choice either way.
Telltale staff were good supporters of Conan o'Brien. After that decision that NBC made, things went a little weird...
CSI was a license for a single show. This is a deal to use multiple licenses, and my fear is that Telltale may be tempted to make too much use of it.
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Cause that's not creepy at all.
Except that the Monkey Island thing was a one game license.
Well... maybe it was cheaper that way or something? You know, get an extra size license of BTTF, get Jurassic Park for free...
The press release says they have license to Jurassic Park and Back to the Future, no more, no less.
Bwahaha! Pale Man strikes again!
Just have to see what happens.
This is exactly why I'm slightly worred that TTG haven't attempted to create a brand new IP. Not a single one. It could be seen as being lazy.
It's more a combination of wanting to stay in business and liking cool stuff than being lazy.
I'm also sure that we will one day see a ToMI season 2. Tales of Monkey Island is their highest selling game to date, and it's something that earned them a LOT of loyal customers and really put them on the map (more-so than S&M seasons 1&2). I think it would be silly to not continue the MI series/franchise, and Telltale aren't exactly a company made up of silly people.
The company is also composed of people who loved these games when they were designed by LucasArts as well as people who actually worked on the games at LucasArts (as you all know), they are as big of fans as all of us and I doubt they would turn their backs on these games.
There's a lot of risk involved in creating a brand new IP. I guess that's why they've created the pilot program, so they can take a chance on creating something of their own - Puzzle Agent is a big step in that direction but it's doesn't go all the way.
I'd much prefer to get a new season of an existing series two or three years after the previous one so there isn't a constant stream of just a few series. The gap between season 2 & 3 of Sam & Max I feel was just about right.
^This.
ToMI is their baby and I don't think they want to give it up, and the fact they left it in a cliff hanger you can't just stop from that.
ToMI is not going to end like MI2 did, TTG wouldn't do that to us.
I am sure TTG just want to expand and not being known as the company who made "that" game but rather "those" games. And they already have a fair amount under their name, but it's always nice to expand, and in the same time get more people to come to the site.
I mean I came to this page because of ToMI and after that I also got Sam & Max season 1 to 3, so people who like BttF and JP will come here and maybe see ToMI and Sam & Max (who like me have lived in a box all their life), and that way expand the fan base and sell more games.
Unless it's a grand finale. Of course, I don't really know what to think either way, I'm just playing devil's advocate. Or would that be devil's playmate?
Two problems with this theory.
1. It's not entirely dependent on Telltale. If LucasArts decides not to give up the license again for whatever reason, Telltale's out of luck if they want to do another Monkey Island game.
2. What makes better business sense, making a new game from a classic adventure series that brings you new fans and sells better than anything you've done so far, or making a new game from a film franchise that brings you in more new fans and sells better than the other thing did? I don't know that Telltale would go this route or even that it would be this sort of dilemma (who knows how these will sell compared to Tales?), but it's a possibility that I'm acknowledging.
Unless Telltale are hypocritical morons (which they aren't), they aren't going to do exactly the thing that got them canned at LEC, i.e. passing up fan favorites in favor of piles of easy cash.
People are acting like that's what Telltale are going to do, since they announced they don't want to be confined to making textbook adventure games anymore, people assume their next game is going to be Halo 4 or something.