I mean, it delivered some laughs, I like how Rapunzel is actually NOT a helpless damsel in distress
By my count they haven't done a damsel in distress story since the early 50s, but maybe I'm missing one or two between then and the mid-60s. The next proper female lead in the "Disney Princess" canon came about in 1989 with Ariel, and no character in the "Princess" line since has been a damsel in distress.
By my count they haven't done a damsel in distress story since the early 50s, but maybe I'm missing one or two between then and the mid-60s. The next proper female lead in the "Disney Princess" canon came about in 1989 with Ariel, and no character in the "Princess" line since has been a damsel in distress.
Huh. Good point. Most princess movies I remember are Sleeping Beauty and Snow White, etc. I guess I forgot about Mulan (though, does that count as a princess movie?) I don't remember anything about Pocahontas other than the talking tree and the raccoon.
By the way, does the 'princess' title refer to any female lead who meet a prince, or does it have to be royalty? Because I can only think of Aurora, Jasmine and Ariel who are of royal blood (and Rapunzel, I guess), and I don't know if Aladdin is a princess movie or not.
According to Disney's marketing and product departments, their "Disney Princess" canon includes Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Bell, Jasmine, Pocahantas, Mulan, Tiana, and Rapunzel. The only one that wasn't born into or marry into royalty in that list is Mulan.
According to Disney's marketing and product departments, their "Disney Princess" canon includes Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Bell, Jasmine, Pocahantas, Mulan, Tiana, and Rapunzel. The only one that wasn't born into or marry into royalty in that list is Mulan.
Oh, right, Giselle from Enchanted wasn't a Disney Princess because they would have to pay Amy Adams for her likeness. But still, I just realized that most Disney princesses are married to royalty instead of being born to it. Also, Snow White's stepmother is called "The Queen", though I'm not sure if she's royalty.
Anyway, I liked Tangled more than Megamind. Neither are perfect, but Tangled is closer.
Now, a question that just popped into my head: Do you think Disney's Snow White movie aged well?
and while the songs tend to annoy a bit, I'd prefer it over gratuitous dance scenes that Dreamworks apparently think is essential.
It's not just Dreamworks that does these, Pixar is also not immune to them. I'm guessing it has something to do with ending the movie for kids, (I heard something about giving the animators "free will" after they finish a movie, also) and I think I could forgive it the most in Megamind, where it was very short, made sense to the character and situation, and didn't avoid a solid ending.
I would have enjoyed Tangled more had it not been for the extremely forced "princess" plot. All movies have their "predictabilities" to them, but you kind of go into a movie thinking "this plot/this specific character is going to go from point A to B to C to G" and Tangled was the one animated movie this year that I felt rebelled less against people's expectations and surprised me the least.
It's not just Dreamworks that does these, Pixar is also not immune to them. I'm guessing it has something to do with ending the movie for kids, (I heard something about giving the animators "free will" after they finish a movie, also) and I think I could forgive it the most in Megamind, where it was very short, made sense to the character and situation, and didn't avoid a solid ending.
Well, it didn't exactly bother me, Buzz's Flamenco made sense to the character as well, because of the eccentric Spanish persona, the ending, eh... I don't know, I think I can forgive it because it was in the credits and like I said, a cute ending for kids. (I'm sure they might have needed it after all that horrific drama) Maybe in Toy Story 2 it was more annoying but I don't know. I think when dance sequences really bother me are when they are so horribly unnecessary, dragged out and/or unfitting where it's obvious they just want to market a music artist, such as both Shrek 1 and 2 and Madagascar with that stupid, obnoxious King Julian. (I don't even want to talk about Shark Tale and Monster vs. Aliens, Jesus Christ...) Also Despicable Me had an especially annoying one too, with a fart joke included.
If my memory serves me right, Kung fu panda ends off with poe and master shun fu meditating. And poe then asks him if he wants some food. Surprisingly enough that is one of the few movies from Dreamworks that doesnt end in a "dance number" ending.
Is it just me, or is fart jokes being used more often in cartoons then it was in the past?
If my memory serves me right, Kung fu panda ends off with poe and master shun fu meditating. And poe then asks him if he wants some food. Surprisingly enough that is one of the few movies from Dreamworks that doesnt end in a "dance number" ending.
Yeah, and that's probably why I like Kung Fu Panda. Also, How to Train Your Dragon, I think.
Yeah, and that's probably why I like Kung Fu Panda.
... Only because it didn't have a dance number? Dance numbers don't automatically make things bad, you know, they're simply a minor annoyance at best. When they're used like how they're used in something like Monsters vs. Aliens or something, where they feel the need to put them in the middle of plot and say "haha look this is funny because it's a popular song and the character is dancing for no reason" it tends to pile up with other annoying jokes, that's when they can be blamed for making a movie bad. Ending dance numbers are usually cringe-worthy, but that's just like, my opinion man, lots of families eat that stuff up, and it doesn't bring down the movie in any way if it already had a clear ending.
Kung Fu Panda was good, but I think people overrate it too much because they're overwhelmed by Dreamworks for once resisting the urge for pop culture jokes. I've seen a many reviewers judge Dreamworks movies by shouting "UGH POP CULTURE JOKES" and don't even say anything after that. My reply is usually "and?" You gotta think about why they're bad and that means how they're used and how frequently. I mean, Looney Tunes had pop culture jokes, but I don't think anyone cares.
Kung Fu Panda had great visuals and animation, but the writing was all over the place and the characters poorly developed, not to mention that abrupt anti-climatic end sequence. (I'm not even going to forgive it for being a sequel hook, that's just plain lazy) I would later find out from one of the dismissed writers that it was because of how they handled their writing. Pretty much it was "make lots of cool storyboards first, piece the plot together later" which explained a lot. Animators vs. Writers is an endless battle these days, (just look at John K.) which is a shame that they can't realize that they need each other.
Meanwhile, How To Train Your Dragon was based on a book and Megamind had a script already written for a previously planned live-action movie, so that might explain why their plots weren't all over the place like other Dreamworks movies.
Anyone know any character designers that are French or draw in a French style besides Sylvain Chomet? Here are some examples of what I'm talking about:
Also Despicable Me looks French-ish, but I couldn't find any concept art for that, so yeah.
Anyone know any character designers that are French or draw in a French style besides Sylvain Chomet? Here are some examples of what I'm talking about:
I know Pascal Campion does French style, but I'm not sure how big he is in character design...
Right, this is probably a better thread to bring up My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.
It's just... so well done. The animation (done entirely in flash) is bright and colorful and crisp, and the show feels like one of those shows that the kids end up just growing up and being uber-nostalgic for. The humor is smart most of the time, and it manages to not feel like a girls show, unless Rarity is the main character for the episode.
I....kind of liked BiA. Loonatics can go burn in Hell, though.
CN seems to be going downhill in it's show choices. Cancelling SBT, and picking up that Looney....thing, Gumball, and............this abomination of animation.
I....kind of liked BiA. Loonatics can go burn in Hell, though.
CN seems to be going downhill in it's show choices. Cancelling SBT, and picking up that Looney....thing, Gumball, and............this abomination of animation.
Well, they do have Adventure Time. That's great fun when you're in an... enhanced state of mind.
How can everyone like Friendship is magic? I personally think anyone who watches it is a wuss. Also, my finger is up to CN with canning titan. Also Space jam should just be called the michael jordon movie seeing how it focuses on him over the LT.
How can everyone like Friendship is magic? I personally think anyone who watches it is a wuss.
I personally haven't watched it yet, but 1.It's created by a prominent crew member of Foster's Home. 2.4chan got ahold of it, almost universally noted it's (apperent) quality, used it for hundreds of pictures, and even influenced the naming and the number of appearences of a background character.
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Huh. Good point. Most princess movies I remember are Sleeping Beauty and Snow White, etc. I guess I forgot about Mulan (though, does that count as a princess movie?) I don't remember anything about Pocahontas other than the talking tree and the raccoon.
By the way, does the 'princess' title refer to any female lead who meet a prince, or does it have to be royalty? Because I can only think of Aurora, Jasmine and Ariel who are of royal blood (and Rapunzel, I guess), and I don't know if Aladdin is a princess movie or not.
Oh, right, Giselle from Enchanted wasn't a Disney Princess because they would have to pay Amy Adams for her likeness. But still, I just realized that most Disney princesses are married to royalty instead of being born to it. Also, Snow White's stepmother is called "The Queen", though I'm not sure if she's royalty.
Anyway, I liked Tangled more than Megamind. Neither are perfect, but Tangled is closer.
Now, a question that just popped into my head: Do you think Disney's Snow White movie aged well?
It's not just Dreamworks that does these, Pixar is also not immune to them. I'm guessing it has something to do with ending the movie for kids, (I heard something about giving the animators "free will" after they finish a movie, also) and I think I could forgive it the most in Megamind, where it was very short, made sense to the character and situation, and didn't avoid a solid ending.
I would have enjoyed Tangled more had it not been for the extremely forced "princess" plot. All movies have their "predictabilities" to them, but you kind of go into a movie thinking "this plot/this specific character is going to go from point A to B to C to G" and Tangled was the one animated movie this year that I felt rebelled less against people's expectations and surprised me the least.
I agree. I was shocked that Toy Story 3 did this.
Is it just me, or is fart jokes being used more often in cartoons then it was in the past?
Yeah, and that's probably why I like Kung Fu Panda. Also, How to Train Your Dragon, I think.
Yes. Moreso in adult cartoons.
... Only because it didn't have a dance number?
Kung Fu Panda was good, but I think people overrate it too much because they're overwhelmed by Dreamworks for once resisting the urge for pop culture jokes. I've seen a many reviewers judge Dreamworks movies by shouting "UGH POP CULTURE JOKES" and don't even say anything after that. My reply is usually "and?" You gotta think about why they're bad and that means how they're used and how frequently. I mean, Looney Tunes had pop culture jokes, but I don't think anyone cares.
Kung Fu Panda had great visuals and animation, but the writing was all over the place and the characters poorly developed, not to mention that abrupt anti-climatic end sequence. (I'm not even going to forgive it for being a sequel hook, that's just plain lazy) I would later find out from one of the dismissed writers that it was because of how they handled their writing. Pretty much it was "make lots of cool storyboards first, piece the plot together later" which explained a lot. Animators vs. Writers is an endless battle these days, (just look at John K.) which is a shame that they can't realize that they need each other.
Meanwhile, How To Train Your Dragon was based on a book and Megamind had a script already written for a previously planned live-action movie, so that might explain why their plots weren't all over the place like other Dreamworks movies.
No, but that's one reason. I liked it because I was expecting less. The animation was cool, and I never expected a good story anyway.
Yeah, but I never read the books. I also liked it because I was expecting less.
However, I hate how my friends told me that Jackie Chan and David Tennant were going to be in these movies, and they barely have one line.
Anyone know any character designers that are French or draw in a French style besides Sylvain Chomet? Here are some examples of what I'm talking about:
Also Despicable Me looks French-ish, but I couldn't find any concept art for that, so yeah.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8b/Cool_World_storyboard.jpg
I know Pascal Campion does French style, but I'm not sure how big he is in character design...
Here's a picture of his if it helps....
But... But it's Gennedy Tartakovsy! Those bastards! Is this because of "Shake It, Shake It, Booty Quake It?"
Massive Atomic Facepalm.
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I'll just run away before Rather Dashing sees this.
Cartoon Network's horrid attempt to turn Merrie Melodies into Seinfeld?
It's just... so well done. The animation (done entirely in flash) is bright and colorful and crisp, and the show feels like one of those shows that the kids end up just growing up and being uber-nostalgic for. The humor is smart most of the time, and it manages to not feel like a girls show, unless Rarity is the main character for the episode.
BURN IT.
Please?
That would be Elmer Fudd. Duh.
The one on the top in the middle is the smoker of the bunch.
It can't possibly be worse than Loonatics or Back in Action.
Oh god, those.
CN seems to be going downhill in it's show choices. Cancelling SBT, and picking up that Looney....thing, Gumball, and............this abomination of animation.
Well, they do have Adventure Time. That's great fun when you're in an... enhanced state of mind.
In that case, the above-linked abomination should be even greater "fun".
I personally haven't watched it yet, but 1.It's created by a prominent crew member of Foster's Home. 2.4chan got ahold of it, almost universally noted it's (apperent) quality, used it for hundreds of pictures, and even influenced the naming and the number of appearences of a background character.