Great story, great music, good acting, but a lot of death and destruction seemingly for its own sake.
Angry Joe made a good point though in defense of Superman's inability to keep the collateral damage down in that this Superman is totally inexperienced in dealing with supervillains, and so he doesn't really have a handle yet on how to be effective at keeping casualties down.
But there was still too much blowing up of things.
So Nolan/Goyer's original script/plot outline before Snyder did rewrites was leaked online. It has a SHITTON of Superman going around doing nothing but saving civilians and Zod and Faora using civilians in danger to distract him. Jonathan Kent doesn't die in the tornado, but Supermang saves everyone. Jonathan Kent ends up dying in Smallville collateral from Zod and Faora, and Superman can't save him because he's trying to save too many people.
That does sound more Superman-ey then Man of Steel. Also
why the hell didnt the family run away from Zod's eye beam! Superman had him held in place it was slowly going toward them but they had plenty of room to run for it!
That does sound more Superman-ey then Man of Steel. Also
why the hell didnt the family run away from Zod's eye beam! Superman had him held in place it was slowly going toward them but they had plenty of room to run for it!
They probably figured if they did they'd just get cut down faster.
That scene was stupid for another reason... Zod can't turn his head, right? But he can clearly turn his eyes. Did someone forget how eyes work?
The more I think of this movie, the less I like it. Superman should be better. A better person, a better hero... He should inspire. Instead he's this weird alien, who's kinda selfish. You know why? Because Pa Kent thought him wrong. He thought him to hide his powers, to fear people, to protect his identity before he protects anyone else. And when Zod comes, Superman just isn't ready. He's spend 33 years of his life hiding away and acting only when the bad stuff is right before his eyes. Using his powers to destroy some guy's truck, destroying some small town's powerlines just because. Ugggh...
That's not what Superman does. Thats what anyone else with these powers would do. Anyone, but Superman. Because Superman is better.
He is the hero other heroes strive to be. The better man. Not because he can punch a guy through a building. Not because he can smash aliens into the nearest gas station. But because he saves people. He would do anything to save people. He would risk everything to save people. He would jump in a tornado to save people. He doesn't kill people, he saves them. He would even try saving Zod.
Well, yes. It's more unbelievable than the tornadoes on Twister.
Yes it was. Pa Kent would've been swept away before the funnel cloud even touched him. A lot of films overstate the dangers of one of those things, Man of Steel seemed to understate it a bit, especially since it looked like a strong F3 or F4 from the size of it. These things can cause a lot of damage without the funnel even hitting things.
Also, I loved that both Faora and Zod used Superman's cape as a way to grab him during a fight. No wonder Edna Mode(from the Incredibles) says "No capes!" But then, Superman without a cape would seem very, VERY wrong.
For about 4-5 years now. Got rid of it when I realized that there is really nothing on TV that interests me any more.
There isn't much on TV that interests me either, but that's no reason for me to toss mine out. I have DVDs and Blu-Rays and video games. Plenty of reason to keep it.
There isn't much on TV that interests me either, but that's no reason for me to toss mine out. I have DVDs and Blu-Rays and video games. Plenty of reason to keep it.
On the subject of Superman, I think that what they're going for is that at the beginning, he isn't the hero who is above everyone. He's an amateur and makes amateur mistakes. He started caring for his identity more than the other people because he wasn't allowed to associate with others as a kid. He was brought up differently than the standard universe and that changed his character as an adult.
I don't think this is necessarily bad. Just different. Actually, from a storytelling perspective, I kinda like it because it leaves somewhere for the character to go. We saw the destruction that happened from him being unprepared, and he probably felt something from it to, so in the second movie (should there be one) we can expect that he will start trying to be that hero that he was meant to be, to be able to deal with the threats and save the people. And succeed.
The more I think of this movie, the less I like it. Superman should be better. A better person, a better hero... He should inspire. Instead he's this weird alien, who's kinda selfish. You know why? Because Pa Kent thought him wrong. He thought him to hide his powers, to fear people, to protect his identity before he protects anyone else. And when Zod comes, Superman just isn't ready. He's spend 33 years of his life hiding away and acting only when the bad stuff is right before his eyes. Using his powers to destroy some guy's truck, destroying some small town's powerlines just because. Ugggh...
That's not what Superman does. Thats what anyone else with these powers would do. Anyone, but Superman. Because Superman is better.
He is the hero other heroes strive to be. The better man. Not because he can punch a guy through a building. Not because he can smash aliens into the nearest gas station. But because he saves people. He would do anything to save people. He would risk everything to save people. He would jump in a tornado to save people. He doesn't kill people, he saves them. He would even try saving Zod.
Superman's not a hero at this point. He's never had to deal with a threat to the world. He's never had to consider saving lives on a mass city wide scale. The ridiculous part about that claim is people are actually making the insinuation that it would have been better for Superman to do nothing. In trying to act, he's damned himself in the eyes of critics for not being good enough, when the truth is that he saved tons of lives. But to ask him to save every life? A normal guy that's just been trying to make his way through life that's now being asked to deal with an extraterrestrial sense? The criticism makes no sense because you're asking him to be a different Superman than the one developed in the story, one with no experience at that scale.
The other ridiculous notion is that Superman makes no mistakes, never acts selfishly, etc etc. He's not Jesus.
If you want him to be that iconic figure that is beyond critique, it reaches the level of being beyond relation for many people, and just isn't what many are asking for in their heroes. Superman in the movie isn't an anti hero, but he's flawed as hell because he has to grow into a role he's never been asked to occupy before.
To put it more simply, if you want the Adventures of Superman, that media already exists for you. If you think Donner was the end-all of Superman telling, that story was told 30 years ago.
Superman's not a hero at this point. He's never had to deal with a threat to the world. He's never had to consider saving lives on a mass city wide scale. The ridiculous part about that claim is people are actually making the insinuation that it would have been better for Superman to do nothing. In trying to act, he's damned himself in the eyes of critics for not being good enough, when the truth is that he saved tons of lives. But to ask him to save every life? A normal guy that's just been trying to make his way through life that's now being asked to deal with an extraterrestrial sense? The criticism makes no sense because you're asking him to be a different Superman than the one developed in the story, one with no experience at that scale.
The other ridiculous notion is that Superman makes no mistakes, never acts selfishly, etc etc. He's not Jesus.
If you want him to be that iconic figure that is beyond critique, it reaches the level of being beyond relation for many people, and just isn't what many are asking for in their heroes. Superman in the movie isn't an anti hero, but he's flawed as hell because he has to grow into a role he's never been asked to occupy before.
To put it more simply, if you want the Adventures of Superman, that media already exists for you. If you think Donner was the end-all of Superman telling, that story was told 30 years ago.
Superman's not a hero at this point. He's never had to deal with a threat to the world. He's never had to consider saving lives on a mass city wide scale. The ridiculous part about that claim is people are actually making the insinuation that it would have been better for Superman to do nothing. In trying to act, he's damned himself in the eyes of critics for not being good enough, when the truth is that he saved tons of lives. But to ask him to save every life? A normal guy that's just been trying to make his way through life that's now being asked to deal with an extraterrestrial sense? The criticism makes no sense because you're asking him to be a different Superman than the one developed in the story, one with no experience at that scale.
The other ridiculous notion is that Superman makes no mistakes, never acts selfishly, etc etc. He's not Jesus.
If you want him to be that iconic figure that is beyond critique, it reaches the level of being beyond relation for many people, and just isn't what many are asking for in their heroes. Superman in the movie isn't an anti hero, but he's flawed as hell because he has to grow into a role he's never been asked to occupy before.
To put it more simply, if you want the Adventures of Superman, that media already exists for you. If you think Donner was the end-all of Superman telling, that story was told 30 years ago.
This, this, a million times this. No superhero is perfect their first time out. Look at Spidey in Amazing Spider-Man. If a character doesn't make mistakes, they don't learn from them, and they don't grow as characters.
I have to say I really enjoyed this movie!
It had some good use of 3D to start with (which is nice to see in 3D films of course!).
And it made me laugh a lot! XD
(Those goddamn Minions are so great. I just love them! )
The romance bit was, as with most kids films, a bit cheesy, but still nicely executed with a few inverted tropes for good measure.
Overall it was just a good laugh. Possibly better than the first film.
(Which I also enjoyed)
+5 for great action sequences, -5 for hidden left-wing agenda. I hate it when action movies get political!
Olympus Has Fallen was better.
The Evil Dead 7/10
A nice little piece of independent horror. As good and scary as it is, the acting was at certain points cheesy and Bruce Campbell’s hair sucked.
Evil Dead 2: Dead by Dawn 9/10
This is where he transformed from being a total puss in Evil Dead 1 to being a hero. And thank God someone changed his hair! Also, still managed to pull off the mixture of being a horror movie mixed with a dark comedy.
Army of Darkness 10/10
An all-around cheese fest, but a damn funny one at that.
It has some good music, but that's really the only thing I can say for it. Oh, well, I liked the art style. It was new and different and I enjoyed how they tried to make everything look like it walked off an urn.
I really don’t care what critics say. Sure, it seemed to drag on a bit, but I was still entertained. Although I’m pretty sure Johnny Depp has done this kind of role before, he’s still pretty funny.
I watched this two days ago. I actually quite like it. Sure, it's no Lion King (seriously, I spend most of the first half of the film in tears. Love that film), but It's still fairly decent.
Although My head keeps changing the lyrics of "Zero to hero" to "Hero to Zero".
A classic comedy that will never get old no matter how many times you watch it. A bit light on story, but the characters and awesome writing more than make up for it.
Man, this movie was totally excellent. It was everything that modern comedies aren't; it was clever and full of heart. Dustin Hoffman was amazing, the dialogue was perfect, and the overall message of equality and respect was tastefully done in a meaningful way. And while it's technically a comedy, it was really so much more, especially considering how much Hoffman put into the role. I can't believe that I hadn't seen this movie earlier.
Man, this movie was totally excellent. It was everything that modern comedies aren't; it was clever and full of heart. Dustin Hoffman was amazing, the dialogue was perfect, and the overall message of equality and respect was tastefully done in a meaningful way. And while it's technically a comedy, it was really so much more, especially considering how much Hoffman put into the role. I can't believe that I hadn't seen this movie earlier.
You're getting a thumbs up from me for this one.
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Goku manages to lure people away and they can wish people back to life yet he still doesn't risk it.
This leads me to believe that citizens AREN'T people. At least to Superman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRjjIpitRc4
Is THAT Evil Superman? ;P
You don't have a TV?
Great story, great music, good acting, but a lot of death and destruction seemingly for its own sake.
Angry Joe made a good point though in defense of Superman's inability to keep the collateral damage down in that this Superman is totally inexperienced in dealing with supervillains, and so he doesn't really have a handle yet on how to be effective at keeping casualties down.
But there was still too much blowing up of things.
Still a good movie though.
Hell, I don't have a TV.
I hooked my GameCube up to my computer monitor.
WHY DID YOU WRITE THIS OUT SNUDOR
The more I think of this movie, the less I like it. Superman should be better. A better person, a better hero... He should inspire. Instead he's this weird alien, who's kinda selfish. You know why? Because Pa Kent thought him wrong. He thought him to hide his powers, to fear people, to protect his identity before he protects anyone else. And when Zod comes, Superman just isn't ready. He's spend 33 years of his life hiding away and acting only when the bad stuff is right before his eyes. Using his powers to destroy some guy's truck, destroying some small town's powerlines just because. Ugggh...
That's not what Superman does. Thats what anyone else with these powers would do. Anyone, but Superman. Because Superman is better.
He is the hero other heroes strive to be. The better man. Not because he can punch a guy through a building. Not because he can smash aliens into the nearest gas station. But because he saves people. He would do anything to save people. He would risk everything to save people. He would jump in a tornado to save people. He doesn't kill people, he saves them. He would even try saving Zod.
Yes it was. Pa Kent would've been swept away before the funnel cloud even touched him. A lot of films overstate the dangers of one of those things, Man of Steel seemed to understate it a bit, especially since it looked like a strong F3 or F4 from the size of it. These things can cause a lot of damage without the funnel even hitting things.
Also, I loved that both Faora and Zod used Superman's cape as a way to grab him during a fight. No wonder Edna Mode(from the Incredibles) says "No capes!" But then, Superman without a cape would seem very, VERY wrong.
For about 4-5 years now. Got rid of it when I realized that there is really nothing on TV that interests me any more.
There isn't much on TV that interests me either, but that's no reason for me to toss mine out. I have DVDs and Blu-Rays and video games. Plenty of reason to keep it.
These things I all enjoy on my PC.
I don't think this is necessarily bad. Just different. Actually, from a storytelling perspective, I kinda like it because it leaves somewhere for the character to go. We saw the destruction that happened from him being unprepared, and he probably felt something from it to, so in the second movie (should there be one) we can expect that he will start trying to be that hero that he was meant to be, to be able to deal with the threats and save the people. And succeed.
Superman's not a hero at this point. He's never had to deal with a threat to the world. He's never had to consider saving lives on a mass city wide scale. The ridiculous part about that claim is people are actually making the insinuation that it would have been better for Superman to do nothing. In trying to act, he's damned himself in the eyes of critics for not being good enough, when the truth is that he saved tons of lives. But to ask him to save every life? A normal guy that's just been trying to make his way through life that's now being asked to deal with an extraterrestrial sense? The criticism makes no sense because you're asking him to be a different Superman than the one developed in the story, one with no experience at that scale.
The other ridiculous notion is that Superman makes no mistakes, never acts selfishly, etc etc. He's not Jesus.
If you want him to be that iconic figure that is beyond critique, it reaches the level of being beyond relation for many people, and just isn't what many are asking for in their heroes. Superman in the movie isn't an anti hero, but he's flawed as hell because he has to grow into a role he's never been asked to occupy before.
To put it more simply, if you want the Adventures of Superman, that media already exists for you. If you think Donner was the end-all of Superman telling, that story was told 30 years ago.
But.....da dun dun na na na.....
No?
Oh.
This, this, a million times this. No superhero is perfect their first time out. Look at Spidey in Amazing Spider-Man. If a character doesn't make mistakes, they don't learn from them, and they don't grow as characters.
You don't have to have a huge TV. Even a 32" one works (that's the size TV that I have) and they're only a couple hundred bucks.
Now, if the TV you had was a CRT TV (ie. not a flatscreen), then yes you should have tossed it.
I have to say I really enjoyed this movie!
It had some good use of 3D to start with (which is nice to see in 3D films of course!).
And it made me laugh a lot! XD
(Those goddamn Minions are so great. I just love them!
The romance bit was, as with most kids films, a bit cheesy, but still nicely executed with a few inverted tropes for good measure.
Overall it was just a good laugh. Possibly better than the first film.
(Which I also enjoyed)
8/10 for sure.
A Good Day to Die Hard - 6/10
Great action film, weak Die Hard sequel.
The Last Stand - 7/10
It's a Schwarzenneger film. Need I say more?
Stolen - 7/10
Enjoyable, if forgettable, action-light thriller.
+5 for great action sequences, -5 for hidden left-wing agenda. I hate it when action movies get political!
Olympus Has Fallen was better.
The Evil Dead 7/10
A nice little piece of independent horror. As good and scary as it is, the acting was at certain points cheesy and Bruce Campbell’s hair sucked.
Evil Dead 2: Dead by Dawn 9/10
This is where he transformed from being a total puss in Evil Dead 1 to being a hero. And thank God someone changed his hair! Also, still managed to pull off the mixture of being a horror movie mixed with a dark comedy.
Army of Darkness 10/10
An all-around cheese fest, but a damn funny one at that.
I think its Dumb. But in a nice way!
It has some good music, but that's really the only thing I can say for it. Oh, well, I liked the art style. It was new and different and I enjoyed how they tried to make everything look like it walked off an urn.
Story-wise... I got nothin'.
Your being too kind.
I really don’t care what critics say. Sure, it seemed to drag on a bit, but I was still entertained. Although I’m pretty sure Johnny Depp has done this kind of role before, he’s still pretty funny.
Kevin Hart: Let Me Explain 7/10
Funny, but not funny enough.
The Heat 7/10
Funny.
I watched this two days ago. I actually quite like it. Sure, it's no Lion King (seriously, I spend most of the first half of the film in tears. Love that film), but It's still fairly decent.
Although My head keeps changing the lyrics of "Zero to hero" to "Hero to Zero".
The acting is a little poor, but the tension is mighty.
Grave Encounters 5/10
Some good scares, but it doesn’t make up for the movie being plain stupid.
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back 8/10
In the words of Sweet Daddy Dee, “That’s some funny shit right there!"
A classic comedy that will never get old no matter how many times you watch it. A bit light on story, but the characters and awesome writing more than make up for it.
The dude abides. 9/10
4/10 for being snooty.
I laughed. That’s all that really matters when it comes to a comedy, no matter how cheesy it is.
Once Upon A Time In The West 10/10
Senza dubbio, un capolavoro e il secondo miglior spaghetti western mai realizzati.
I love spaghetti westerns.
Man, this movie was totally excellent. It was everything that modern comedies aren't; it was clever and full of heart. Dustin Hoffman was amazing, the dialogue was perfect, and the overall message of equality and respect was tastefully done in a meaningful way. And while it's technically a comedy, it was really so much more, especially considering how much Hoffman put into the role. I can't believe that I hadn't seen this movie earlier.
I laughed. A lot. Screw critics!
Pacific Rim 8/10
A good homage to Japanese monster flicks that is able to stand up on its own.
You're getting a thumbs up from me for this one.
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Tootsie is among my next Blu Rays.
I quite liked it, not as good as the original and a bit weak at the start but has a good message and really picks up later on