They were also hardly in it, which is a shame. But they were fun incidental characters, I agree.
Well, Webb barely did anything. Mitchell had maybe 80% of their lines.
Although maybe not the most strong episode, I absolutely adored it for being a fun romp (and also Dinosaurs!). I liked seeing the whole 'gang' of people we don't know idea being used again as well (I wasn't too keen on the AGMGTW gang as a whole, but I really like the idea!)
Some light future Series 7 spoilers that tie into the above:
We'll be seeing more of Madame Vastra and Jenny, so I hope we also can see them with Riddel and Nefertiti. Might make a good team for an in-between-companions episode! :P
It was a bit iffy as well that the Doctor brought a big-game hunter with him before he knew there was any big game to hunt, and I thought David Mitchell sounded far too much like TV's David Mitchell (at least Hale & Pace in "Survival" weren't doing 'The Management'). Other than that, this was the best episode in a long while.
Dalek puppet since the Doctor never saw her and the Daleks can't remeber him but know hes a threat if he can get on there ship and leave at "will" so they want to know who he is
Dalek puppet since the Doctor never saw her and the Daleks can't remeber him but know hes a threat if he can get on there ship and leave at "will" so they want to know who he is
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I'm guessing either the Doctor will somehow find a way to recreate her from his memories ("remember me" indeed!), or Jenna Louise-Coleman being the next companion was a massive deception to cover-up the plot-twist of Asylum. I'm leaning towards the former though.
I found The Gunpowder Plot to be quite good. Much better than the first series of episodes.
As I said in the actual Steam Greenlight thread, it's definitely the best of the 'Adventure Games', so if it's just that one released I won't have any particular problems, and nor will anyone playing it. It's only if they release all 5 that we'll have issues.
I'm guessing either the Doctor will somehow find a way to recreate her from his memories ("remember me" indeed!), or Jenna Louise-Coleman being the next companion was a massive deception to cover-up the plot-twist of Asylum. I'm leaning towards the former though.
As far as I'm aware, the "Pathweb" is a new concept created for this episode. If that's the case, I think it's not only reasonable to assume that it was created in order to excuse the Dalek memory adjustment going forward, but also to give a reasonable space to store Oswin's consciousness. A place for holding and accessing memories? Seems like a lovely place for a young lady to go bake sou flees until she can drop into a new body.
As a side note, I've not really been enjoying these episodes anywhere near as much as the last bunch. They just seem...."okay". And have annoying things, like the Amy/Rory plotline that starts out of nowhere in Asylum and then is rushed out door by the end, with the big plot stuff so far feeling more like handwaves and excuses than anything that really advances narrative in an organic way.
As a side note, I've not really been enjoying these episodes anywhere near as much as the last bunch. They just seem...."okay". And have annoying things, like the Amy/Rory plotline that starts out of nowhere in Asylum and then is rushed out door by the end, with the big plot stuff so far feeling more like handwaves and excuses than anything that really advances narrative in an organic way.
I didn't enjoy Asylum that much either. A lot of big ideas not properly thought out or executed. And the Amy/Rory stuff is just flat-out insulting.
They're getting divorced over Amy not being able to have kids? What's wrong with adoption, for fuck's sake? Christ, that was stupid on SO many levels.
DoaS, on the other hand, was awesome and I enjoyed almost every minute of it.
I didn't enjoy Asylum that much either. A lot of big ideas not properly thought out or executed. And the Amy/Rory stuff is just flat-out insulting.
They're getting divorced over Amy not being able to have kids? What's wrong with adoption, for fuck's sake? Christ, that was stupid on SO many levels.
Well,
they got divorced because Amy kicked Rory out without telling him why, because she thought she was doing what was best for him. It's clear in the scene that he had no idea she was infertile, so the problem is clearly with the lack of communication rather than the physical issue. It didn't seem totally out of character to me. I haven't watched DoaS yet so I don't know if they address the adoption concept, but I would imagine that Rory would be all for it
they got divorced because Amy kicked Rory out without telling him why, because she thought she was doing what was best for him. It's clear in the scene that he had no idea she was infertile, so the problem is clearly with the lack of communication rather than the physical issue. It didn't seem totally out of character to me. I haven't watched DoaS yet so I don't know if they address the adoption concept, but I would imagine that Rory would be all for it
Doesn't change the fact that is feels massively out of place. Last we saw the two, they were absolutely fine, and now they're really, really not. It's very jarring.
Also,
adoption
is not mentioned is DoaS. I was disappoint. But then we got this:
If that were the case, it didn't really seem to show amidst the comedy bits with the Ood. I really didn't see all that much tension, just rather silly bits of 'comedy' before it got all dark at the end...
Why can't it come out of nowhere? Time passes, we don't get to see every last detail of these characters lives.
Because it's unsatisfying, quick, and lazy for a major emotional story arc, even if that arc only lasts for a single episode. In some ways, especially when it only lasts for one episode.
You treat the divorce as though it is an event that actually happened and we only got to start at the tail end of it because we just happened to not be looking at the right time.
This simply isn't the case.
The reason we don't see when Amy Pond gets indigestion from some bad shellfish and spends far too long in a public restroom, or whenever she misses a bus, or when she has trouble getting to sleep even though there's a very important early morning appointment she has to get to, is because those things aren't good storytelling.
We don't care.
Amy Pond and Rory Williams are characters. They aren't people. The events in their lives aren't something that occurs that we just happen to look in on, they're aspects of a narrative, fabricated entirely for our enjoyment. Their lives are created by somebody, and what we see is meant to fit into a larger structure. If something comes out of nowhere for seemingly no apparent reason and is then immediately resolved, it's not because it just happened. It's because some writer somewhere created it as a cheap way to shoehorn in a conflict into the season premiere. We didn't HAVE to jump in months after problems started developing, we didn't HAVE to have no idea until just now that
Amy can't have kids
, they didn't HAVE to have any trouble of this sort in the first place.
Yh that pissed me off in Asylum. I don't see why they thought it was needed for the ep wasnt the Daleks and
Oswin's Dalek twist
enough to keep us entertained with out a crappy
will they wont they that gets resolved faster then the probems shown and its not like anyone was thinking omg is this the end of Rory and Amy we knew they would get back togeather anyway
The Silence says they have been there since the wheel and the fire. The Doctor gave the cavemen the wheel and fire in the FIRST episode! What if they have been around that long in Earth's histroy cos they where on the TARDIS and exited and stayed in the caveman age.
So it's basically what I said on the previous page? Man, I'm just awesome.
Yh each ep seems to have him walking closer to the edge killing a old bitter monster is one thing but he came close to killing a man who is basic him self! Someone who has done horrific things to save people. IN A WAR
.
I wouldn't be mad if
I was turned into a Gunslinger that thing looked frigging awesome!
So has anyone else here noticed the Vortex changing with each episode? Not seen it mentioned so just wanted wanted to bring it up, for the first five episodes of this series the Opening Titles will be getting Darker and more Red Tinted as the weeks go on to reflect what's happening with The Doctor.
Actually, I've noticed the words 'Doctor Who' change pattern depending on what the episode's about. For DoaS it was all green and scaly, and for Mercy it was like wood. It's a neat little touch. But then again, I don't like how they've changed the logo morphing into the TARDIS. It seems so clunky compared to the old way.
The DW game is shit. Any of them. All of them (except the DS one, that one's OK). And I should know, because I've played them all. I have suffered greatly to bring you this knowledge. So don't question me on this.
And since I'm on an image roll, here's where all those games (again, except the DS one) deserve to be:
I just watched The House That Dripped Blood with John Pertwee and now I wana watch a good Third Doc ep! Recommend one pls but not Three Doctors, The Sontaran one and Planet of Spiders cos I seen them.
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Well, Webb barely did anything. Mitchell had maybe 80% of their lines.
Although maybe not the most strong episode, I absolutely adored it for being a fun romp (and also Dinosaurs!). I liked seeing the whole 'gang' of people we don't know idea being used again as well (I wasn't too keen on the AGMGTW gang as a whole, but I really like the idea!)
Some light future Series 7 spoilers that tie into the above:
And the robots reminded me of the two main Rat Creatures from Bone.
It's not unprecedented. The ninth Doctor did the same thing
Actually, SFX have hinted that there's a reason for the Doctor's actions here. http://www.sfx.co.uk/2012/09/08/doctor-who-7-02-dinosaurs-on-a-spaceship-review/ If you read down to the comments, somebody spells it out
It was a bit iffy as well that the Doctor brought a big-game hunter with him before he knew there was any big game to hunt, and I thought David Mitchell sounded far too much like TV's David Mitchell (at least Hale & Pace in "Survival" weren't doing 'The Management'). Other than that, this was the best episode in a long while.
(Also, your YouTube channel has some random stuff on it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDVSJa-o-L0&list=UUCvHcXJ2XUq3kkzPlLlCfZg&index=28&feature=plcp
As a side note, I've not really been enjoying these episodes anywhere near as much as the last bunch. They just seem...."okay". And have annoying things, like the Amy/Rory plotline that starts out of nowhere in Asylum and then is rushed out door by the end, with the big plot stuff so far feeling more like handwaves and excuses than anything that really advances narrative in an organic way.
DoaS, on the other hand, was awesome and I enjoyed almost every minute of it.
Well,
Also,
I don't think it is an option with a mad man with a box who keeps turning up.
"Pond Life" leads into this development
Really? I thought the whole point of the series was that things were just getting ever more tense in their home till they just exploded.
You treat the divorce as though it is an event that actually happened and we only got to start at the tail end of it because we just happened to not be looking at the right time.
This simply isn't the case.
The reason we don't see when Amy Pond gets indigestion from some bad shellfish and spends far too long in a public restroom, or whenever she misses a bus, or when she has trouble getting to sleep even though there's a very important early morning appointment she has to get to, is because those things aren't good storytelling.
We don't care.
Amy Pond and Rory Williams are characters. They aren't people. The events in their lives aren't something that occurs that we just happen to look in on, they're aspects of a narrative, fabricated entirely for our enjoyment. Their lives are created by somebody, and what we see is meant to fit into a larger structure. If something comes out of nowhere for seemingly no apparent reason and is then immediately resolved, it's not because it just happened. It's because some writer somewhere created it as a cheap way to shoehorn in a conflict into the season premiere. We didn't HAVE to jump in months after problems started developing, we didn't HAVE to have no idea until just now that
It's shitty, it's obnoxious, it's just bad.
But that ruins the theory that I really like!
One immediate plus - it's the first episode this series that DIDN'T need more than 45 minutes.
I wouldn't be mad if
The DW game is shit. Any of them. All of them (except the DS one, that one's OK). And I should know, because I've played them all. I have suffered greatly to bring you this knowledge. So don't question me on this.
And since I'm on an image roll, here's where all those games (again, except the DS one) deserve to be: