The Newly Regenerated Doctor Who Thread

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  • edited August 2012
    Ribs wrote: »
    They're horrible monstrosities that are heavily shaming to all involved. Free isn't cheap enough.

    I only played like half the first ep and it was enough to turn me off the rest of them.
  • edited August 2012
    Ribs wrote: »
    They're horrible monstrosities that are heavily shaming to all involved. Free isn't cheap enough.

    What specifically is so awful about them?
  • edited August 2012
    What specifically is so awful about them?

    Everything. I think even Matt turns it in for his VA work.
  • edited August 2012
    coolsome wrote: »
    I only played like half the first ep and it was enough to turn me off the rest of them.

    I seem to remember you getting stuck with one of the mini games which was a glorified version of Operation. And giving up.

    Personally, I think they are passable. They are decent episodes as far as the show goes, but the games themselves offer very little challenge. The extent is really just sonic a couple of things, do a couple of tedious mini games, and some really slow platforming and way too much stealth. The gunpowder plot was pretty awesome though. It was mostly the same, but there was more variety.

    I did think about filming a play through and then editing out bits to make them into episodes, but never got round to it. I say give them a go. If you don't like them, watch a play through.

    They are by no means the worst games (Far better than the wii game, And there's more attention to detail than in the iOS/android games. Amy doesn't regenerate for one.)

    They served there purpose as time fillers in between series.
  • edited August 2012
    The first four (something of the Daleks, something of the Cybermen, TARDIS and Shadows of the Vashta Nerada) aren't particularly good. The last one (The Gunpowder Plot) is better, but it's mostly because it's longer and has larger areas, allowing for a more adventure-ish feel.

    The problem with The Adventure Games is that they play very similarly to the Back to the Future game, with the majority of the gameplay being stealth-like sections and very little actual adventuring. The plots are very slow-paced (which isn't surprising, given the genre) and not very interesting, the graphics are so-so, the puzzles (when they appear) are stunningly simplistic and overall they're just not that much fun.

    Like I say, The Gunpowder Plot is better than the first four though (mostly because Rory's in it, which automatically makes it 300% more awesome), so if you want to see what they're like, try that one.

    I still say that, apart from one game-breaking puzzle near the end, the DS game Evacuation Earth is the best modern Doctor Who game we've had. The Wii game is an absolute abomination that I will gladly do a video review in which I thoroughly dissect it as soon as I find a way of capturing footage from my TV, and I think the world would quite gladly forget about the shockingly bad Eternity Clock.
  • edited August 2012
    Can anyone tell me if the Doctor Who Adventure Games are any good? If not, I'll look up a playthrough and figure it out on my own.
    There is a doctor who adventure game?! Link! NOW!
  • edited August 2012
    Sigh. Here's the Wiki page. You're on your own from there.
  • edited August 2012
    The gunpowder plot is awesome because of the hidden Silence who teach you about history.
  • edited August 2012
    I've been watching some playthroughs of The Doctor Who Adventures, and I must say, at first impressions, the games seem a bit slow-paced, and lack the spirit and humor of the series. With some better graphics , some better humor, and (I'll be honest) some more effort put into the performance and gameplay, it could have been a decent companion to the series. However, the products they created just seem kind of... meh.
  • edited August 2012
    Can anyone tell me if the Doctor Who Adventure Games are any good?

    They're not any good. Anybody in the international market who actually has to pay for them ought to steer clear.

    *Sigh*. So much "Doctor Who" merchandise, so much crap. No Lego, no classic Telltale computer game.. :(
  • edited August 2012
    Wow, I get the distinct impression there are more modern Doctor Who fans than original series fans. No way would Tom Baker be that low otherwise. Also, no love for Peter Davison? He was your favorite Doctor's favorite Doctor, people. :)

    Personally, I've always been a big fan of Jon Pertwee. His style was a nice mix of the comedy of the second Doctor and the curmudgeonly nature of the first Doctor. I liked his gadgets (I wish Bessie could make a cameo in the new series), his martial arts, his wry sense of humor, and, yes, even his crazy dandy outfits. His stories were largely spent on Earth, but thanks to that we got all the great UNIT cast, especially regular appearances of the Brigadier, and the best old enemy of all, The Master.
  • edited August 2012
    Wow, I get the distinct impression there are more modern Doctor Who fans than original series fans. No way would Tom Baker be that low otherwise. Also, no love for Peter Davison? He was your favorite Doctor's favorite Doctor, people. :)

    Personally, I've always been a big fan of Jon Pertwee. His style was a nice mix of the comedy of the second Doctor and the curmudgeonly nature of the first Doctor. I liked his gadgets (I wish Bessie could make a cameo in the new series), his martial arts, his wry sense of humor, and, yes, even his crazy dandy outfits. His stories were largely spent on Earth, but thanks to that we got all the great UNIT cast, especially regular appearances of the Brigadier, and the best old enemy of all, The Master.

    David Tennant only says that Peter is his favourite doctor so that he can go out/impregnate/marry his daughter. :-P

    And yes, number Five is awesome. But most people probably put him at number two to their favourites, which explains the low votes.

    I prefer the new series to the old, simply as its much more rewatchable. But I like them both. Which is probably why McGann is my favourite, being a bridge between the two era's. Also, the new pond life is up, featuring some ood antics in the bedroom. I would link, but you know... aliens.
  • edited August 2012
    Friar wrote: »
    David Tennant only says that Peter is his favourite doctor so that he can go out/impregnate/marry his daughter. :-P

    I believe that most Doctors themselves cite Patrick Troughton as the best. And they're right.
  • edited August 2012
    I believe that most Doctors themselves cite Patrick Troughton as the best. And they're right.

    Both Peter and Paul (sadly there is yet to be a Mary to play Doctor Who) have cited Bill Hartnell as their favorite as they watched his stories on the TV when they were young'ns.
  • edited August 2012
    What if in the End of Time when the President
    Rassilon
    killed that random Time Lady she was actuly
    Romona since RTD said she was President in the Time War {presumbly before they woke up Rassilon)
    .
  • edited August 2012
    Well that would be a massive 'fuck you' to the fans, so I doubt it.
  • edited August 2012
    coolsome wrote: »
    What if in the End of Time when the President
    Rassilon
    killed that random Time Lady she was actuly
    Romona since RTD said she was President in the Time War
    .

    RTD has said the Time Lady was somebody else
  • edited August 2012
    RTD has said the Time Lady was somebody else

    I thought the buzz at the time was that it was a member of the Doctor's immediate family, but Steven Moffat wasn't interested in having RTD preserve the Time Lords or Gallifrey, so I guess we'll never know.
  • edited August 2012
    RTD has said the Time Lady was somebody else

    No no, you misunderstood.

    RTD said that, whilst writing, he wrote her as if she were Doctor Who's mother. However, he intentionally did not say it, as he thought something along the lines of it's whoever you want it to be. So she's The Doctor's Mother/Romana/Death/Davros/Hitler.

    Part Five of Pond Life.
  • edited August 2012
    Ribs wrote: »
    No no, you misunderstood.

    RTD said that, whilst writing, he wrote her as if she were Doctor Who's mother.

    No not that woman.

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    The one who died right at the start.
  • edited August 2012
    coolsome wrote: »
    No not that woman.

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    The one who died right at the start.

    Ah. That's probably Vicki then. Only reasonable explanation.
  • edited August 2012
    I can't wait for tomorrow! I frigging love Daleks!!!!!
  • edited August 2012
    Ribs wrote: »
    Ah. That's probably Vicki then. Only reasonable explanation.

    Oh, terrific. Now *this* forum's infested with damnfoolery as well.
  • edited August 2012
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  • edited August 2012
    Friar wrote: »
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    That reminds me of this picture from a con - the other Doctors are just laid back, signing things and chatting, whislt Tom is being a perfect human being in a perfect pose:
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  • edited August 2012
    Ah, Doctor Who

    For me, I became a huge fan from two years ago and I rank it worthy of science fiction.

    I was brought in by my brother, who showed me a clip of the Ninth Doctor (Christopher Eccleston). My interest became peaked and so I followed with the adventures of David Tennant. Along the way, the new series began to become tasteless (No offense to fans of the era). I began researching on the classic series and once settled, I wanted to choose an era rather than start all the way from the beginning. So, with so many to choose from, I hand picked Sylvester McCoy. I bought my Doctor Who serial on DVD in 2010, "Remembrance of the Daleks". I became fascinated (and still am) to this incarnation of the doctor, dark and mysterious, rockin the question mark sweater vest and question mark handled umbrella and panama hat. Sophie Aldred as Ace was a wonderful companion. She and the Doctor made a fine team.
    To this day, I have seen just about every McCoy era episode except "Delta and the Bannermen" (I just couldn't stand it five minutes in) and "Survival" the finale.

    Through my interst, I read about Sylvester McCoy's past in an issue of Doctor Who magazine and another of Sophie Aldred.

    My fav episodes are: "Remembrance of the Daleks", "The Happiness Patrol", "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy", "Battlefield" & "The Curse of Fenric"

    I am also fascinated by Big Finish audio books, who are continuing the adventures of Doctors past.

    So, don't get me wrong, I like all the main leads whom played the iconic Time Lord. Seven is special because I chose him from out of the blue and haven't regreated my decision since. At times, I like the Doctor mysterious and a good character at the same time.

    Also, if I were to jump on Doctor Who from the beginning it would be with the Troughton era Season 4 final "The Evil of the Daleks" For me to begin, why not a serial with one of the Doctor's most famous adversaries. Plus, from what I reviewed it was quite a episode ahead of its time.
  • edited August 2012
    Not long now till DALEKS!!!!!!!!!!
  • edited August 2012
    MaconMajr wrote: »
    Ah, Doctor Who

    For me, I became a huge fan from two years ago and I rank it worthy of science fiction.

    I was brought in by my brother, who showed me a clip of the Ninth Doctor (Christopher Eccleston). My interest became peaked and so I followed with the adventures of David Tennant. Along the way, the new series began to become tasteless (No offense to fans of the era). I began researching on the classic series and once settled, I wanted to choose an era rather than start all the way from the beginning. So, with so many to choose from, I hand picked Sylvester McCoy. I bought my Doctor Who serial on DVD in 2010, "Remembrance of the Daleks". I became fascinated (and still am) to this incarnation of the doctor, dark and mysterious, rockin the question mark sweater vest and question mark handled umbrella and panama hat. Sophie Aldred as Ace was a wonderful companion. She and the Doctor made a fine team.
    To this day, I have seen just about every McCoy era episode except "Delta and the Bannermen" (I just couldn't stand it five minutes in) and "Survival" the finale.

    Through my interst, I read about Sylvester McCoy's past in an issue of Doctor Who magazine and another of Sophie Aldred.

    My fav episodes are: "Remembrance of the Daleks", "The Happiness Patrol", "The Greatest Show in the Galaxy", "Battlefield" & "The Curse of Fenric"

    I am also fascinated by Big Finish audio books, who are continuing the adventures of Doctors past.

    So, don't get me wrong, I like all the main leads whom played the iconic Time Lord. Seven is special because I chose him from out of the blue and haven't regreated my decision since. At times, I like the Doctor mysterious and a good character at the same time.

    Also, if I were to jump on Doctor Who from the beginning it would be with the Troughton era Season 4 final "The Evil of the Daleks" For me to begin, why not a serial with one of the Doctor's most famous adversaries. Plus, from what I reviewed it was quite a episode ahead of its time.
    McCoy is the one doctor that I've never really been able to get into. I've seen four now (his first, remembrance, survival and battlefield) and I can only really say I've enjoyed battlefield. Remembrance was okay, but probably slightly marred by the fact I got it in a boxset of davros stories, so was sick to death of daleks by the point I got to it. Survival I hated, and his first was... passable. I don't think I've enjoyed the audios where he's been the starring doctor either. I don't know what it is I don't like about his portrayal. And I can't figure out why I really enjoyed Battlefield, but no others..

    Peter Davison is probably my favourite Original run doctor (Not counting Paul McGann). I liked how vulnerable and innocent he seemed, and how his companions for the most part seemed to invite themselves aboard. The line " I'm not a taxi service! " pretty much summed it up. He's the only pre 90s doctor I've seen all the episodes for.
    coolsome wrote: »
    Not long now till DALEKS!!!!!!!!!!
    Work is really gonna drag tonight. Knowing that everyone else is watching them. Ugh.
  • edited September 2012
    Friar wrote: »
    I don't know what it is I don't like about his portrayal

    Sylvester McCoy is 'my' Doctor. I like Sylvester McCoy's Doctor. And yet... I know where you're coming from. There is something undefiniably different about him.

    Patrick Troughton was, in some respects, parodying William Hartnell. Colin Baker was a clear reaction against Peter Davison. And so on.... but Sylvester McCoy stands alone.

    I suspect there is a.... for want of a better word, a realism about him. In "Remembrance of the Daleks" he sends Ace off for, of all things, food. He goes into the Shoreditch cafe and comments that the guy who runs it is away. You don't tend to get the Doctor dealing with this sort of minutae of life, and when you do, it's terribly hamfisted (oh, he's an alien, he couldn't possibly understand love or football or regular dustbin collections).

    I also suspect many peoples' memories of him are coloured by the New Adventures novels, which - much as I loved - went way overboard with the idea of him as a manipulator. I'm not saying that that's not present in the television series, but Virgin massively overplayed the idea from "Battlefield" that he was sending himself explanatory notes back in time. This idea that he's nothing but a cosmic chess-player also informs Big Finish (although I've only heard one Ace/Hex trilogy, right in the middle of the ongoing storyline. It's possible that you need to following the entire series to really get the value of it).
  • edited September 2012
    Sylvester McCoy is 'my' Doctor. I like Sylvester McCoy's Doctor. And yet... I know where you're coming from. There is something undefiniably different about him.

    Patrick Troughton was, in some respects, parodying William Hartnell. Colin Baker was a clear reaction against Peter Davison. And so on.... but Sylvester McCoy stands alone.

    I suspect there is a.... for want of a better word, a realism about him. In "Remembrance of the Daleks" he sends Ace off for, of all things, food. He goes into the Shoreditch cafe and comments that the guy who runs it is away. You don't tend to get the Doctor dealing with this sort of minutae of life, and when you do, it's terribly hamfisted (oh, he's an alien, he couldn't possibly understand love or football or regular dustbin collections).

    I also suspect many peoples' memories of him are coloured by the New Adventures novels, which - much as I loved - went way overboard with the idea of him as a manipulator. I'm not saying that that's not present in the television series, but Virgin massively overplayed the idea from "Battlefield" that he was sending himself explanatory notes back in time. This idea that he's nothing but a cosmic chess-player also informs Big Finish (although I've only heard one Ace/Hex trilogy, right in the middle of the ongoing storyline. It's possible that you need to following the entire series to really get the value of it).

    I think the reason a lot of Seven's characterization fails when the only trait is that he's a master manipulator or what have you - they fail to take into account the arrogance and pride that each Doctor before and since has had, instead keeping him to the sideline where he, cowardly, gets others to do his work. On TV, his adventures are fun, varied, and don't take themselves particularly seriously. They're easily my favorite TV era. The expanded universe doesn't cover those in particularly the same way.

    I'm smack in the middle of catching up on Ace/Hex (it seems like I'll never get there, now that I happen to also need the Black TARDIS trilogy from last year as well!), about to listen to The Word Lord in the coming week. I'd not say much manipulation has occurred yet - he's clearly keeping the secret he has from Hex, but at the same time I don't get the sense he's already figured it out as I expected (I know for a fact he's near his most manipulative in the upcoming Magic Mousetrap and Enemy of the Daleks, though).
  • edited September 2012
    That episode was pretty badass!
  • edited September 2012
    The. Fuck. Was. That.

    OK, let me clarify a bit. I thought it was a confused jumble of ideas with awkward pacing and too little a run time. Had this been an hour and a half it would have had far more time to breath and allow for a much clearer episode (and people wouldn't have had to talk so fast I couldn't understand half of what they were saying). There's a lot of plot holes, a lot of silly dialogue and a lot of ideas - some of which worked and some of which didn't.

    Loved
    the future companion turning out to be a Dalek - that was a fantastic plot twist I really didn't see coming and I can't wait to see what they do with it
    but overall I felt it was just too full of random ideas not properly put together to make for a particularly great episode.
  • edited September 2012
    I guess
    Clara Oswin isnt the new companion after all
    ?
  • edited September 2012
    Oh I'm sure the Doctor will do something clever and fix it. Like he always bloody does.
  • edited September 2012
    Oh I'm sure the Doctor will do something clever and fix it. Like he always bloody does.

    At lest
    she wont remember any of this now. I think the Doctor memory wipe was to downgrade the Daleks from big bad since they are no longer obsessed with him.
  • edited September 2012
    But the Daleks are still massive xenophobes who will kill anyone not a Dalek. The Doctor-wipe doesn't make them less a threat... just not one to him directly. Also, there were fucking millions of the Daleks in this episode. Mr Moffat kind of wrote himself into a corner creating that many and then not doing anything with them.

    ...wow, this thread really sucks for anyone who hasn't seen the episode, huh?
  • edited September 2012
    But the Daleks are still massive xenophobes who will kill anyone not a Dalek. The Doctor-wipe doesn't make them less a threat... just not one to him directly. Also, there were fucking millions of the Daleks in this episode. Mr Moffat kind of wrote himself into a corner creating that many and then not doing anything with them.

    ...wow, this thread really sucks for anyone who hasn't seen the episode, huh?

    I didnt mean there
    not a threat just they wont directly attack or kidnap or trick The Doctor so he will stumble into there plans like the classic series insted of them outright trying to kill him then the universe in a huge finale
    .

    And if you havent seen the ep I hope you like large black squares.
  • edited September 2012
    Eh, I see your point. It's still a Moffat-run show though, so expect trickery all the time anyway.

    And it's black rectangles. Honestly, I know we've dumbed down GCSEs, but by that much?
  • edited September 2012
    Eh, I see your point. It's still a Moffat-run show though, so expect trickery all the time anyway.

    And it's black rectangles. Honestly, I know we've dumbed down GCSEs, but by that much?

    I would've gone with black polygons, to be more accurate, as several consecutive lines of spoilers merge into one shape. :p

    Also, I rather enjoyed the episode. I'm currently in the middle of reading "War of the Daleks" (Which isn't as bad as everyone says!), and there were several elements that mirrored the part I'm at.
    For instance that Skaro wasn't really destroyed by the hand of omega, The doctor being taken by seemingly nice daleks before a court/parliament.

    But yeah, it could have done with being longer. They didn't really explore the idea of every dalek type ever being down there. I wanted to see more of Special Weapons Dalek! But it did feel like a mini-movie (which they said this half of the series was going for).
    And I think Jenna-louise coleman is an awesome companion. I'd been trying to figure out for ages how those photos of her and the doctor were taken when the read through of her first episode wasn't for another two months afterwards.

    And I loved the fact that Matts last lines in the Tardis mirrored those of the end of Season 6. Right down to the emphasis on syllables. And I like the fact that Stephen Moffat is slowly retconning the series.

    Also, WHO INSTAGRAM'D THE INTRO?
  • edited September 2012
    I hope the resolution is
    the Doctor simply picks Clara up, them clearly knowing eachother already, with no explanation
    .
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